• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 05:22
CET 11:22
KST 19:22
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
RSL Revival - 2025 Season Finals Preview8RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview2TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners12
Community News
SC2 All-Star Invitational: Jan 17-1815Weekly Cups (Dec 22-28): Classic & MaxPax win, Percival surprises2Weekly Cups (Dec 15-21): Classic wins big, MaxPax & Clem take weeklies3ComeBackTV's documentary on Byun's Career !11Weekly Cups (Dec 8-14): MaxPax, Clem, Cure win4
StarCraft 2
General
SC2 All-Star Invitational: Jan 17-18 Weekly Cups (Dec 22-28): Classic & MaxPax win, Percival surprises Chinese SC2 server to reopen; live all-star event in Hangzhou Starcraft 2 Zerg Coach ComeBackTV's documentary on Byun's Career !
Tourneys
WardiTV Mondays OSC Season 13 World Championship $5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship $100 Prize Pool - Winter Warp Gate Masters Showdow Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 506 Warp Zone Mutation # 505 Rise From Ashes Mutation # 504 Retribution Mutation # 503 Fowl Play
Brood War
General
BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ I would like to say something about StarCraft (UMS) SWITCHEROO *New* /Destination Edit/ What monitor do you use for playing Remastered? BW General Discussion
Tourneys
[BSL21] Grand Finals - Sunday 21:00 CET SLON Grand Finals – Season 2 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL21] LB SemiFinals - Saturday 21:00 CET
Strategy
Fighting Spirit mining rates Simple Questions, Simple Answers Game Theory for Starcraft Current Meta
Other Games
General Games
General RTS Discussion Thread Nintendo Switch Thread Awesome Games Done Quick 2026! Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Mechabellum
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Survivor II: The Amazon Sengoku Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread The Games Industry And ATVI Russo-Ukrainian War Thread 12 Days of Starcraft
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List TL+ Announced Where to ask questions and add stream?
Blogs
National Diversity: A Challe…
TrAiDoS
I decided to write a webnov…
DjKniteX
James Bond movies ranking - pa…
Topin
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1073 users

[IPL] FC8: Nerchio vs Jjakji - Page 11

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 9 10 11 12 13 37 Next All
1Eris1
Profile Joined September 2010
United States5797 Posts
January 29 2012 01:49 GMT
#201
Come on Jjakji, turn it around. If you lose I know there are going to be those 1-2 posters that will spam nothing but "Nechio best ZvT on the planet" for the next two weeks.

On a side note. I'm suprised how many people seem to think Jjakji has the best TvZ in the world after only one series
Known Aliases: Tyragon, Valeric ~MSL Forever, SKT is truly the Superior KT!
00Visor
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
4337 Posts
January 29 2012 01:49 GMT
#202
On January 29 2012 10:46 McFeser wrote:
How come Nerchio couldn't play this well against MC at HC4? He's doing really well.

Why do you pick the one series he lost at HC4? He beat Thorzain, violet and Hero.
CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-29 01:49:49
January 29 2012 01:49 GMT
#203
On January 29 2012 10:46 McFeser wrote:
How come Nerchio couldn't play this well against MC at HC4? He's doing really well.


Because ZvP is his weakest matchup and MC is really good at it himself. Plus there were some mindgames that threw Nerchio off.
WriterWovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen.
aintz
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada5624 Posts
January 29 2012 01:50 GMT
#204
hsc4 was lan and nerchio has nerve issues i think. he played terribly at hsc4 and just got rolled by mc.

dont know what jjajkji is doing. mech vs zerg is so bad, even when mvp does it he loses.
Elefanto
Profile Joined May 2010
Switzerland3584 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-29 01:50:38
January 29 2012 01:50 GMT
#205
On January 29 2012 10:47 casualman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2012 10:46 Bagration wrote:
Well, I admit that I predicted that Jjakji would dominate Nerchio, and while this series is long from over, I will admit that I appear to have been mistaken again. Well played Nerchio

IPL Fight Club: Where even top Koreans are mortal.

More like IPL: Where koreans play with massive amounts of lag. At least a 2 second delay.


lol

Don't forget he's jet-lagged, tired, sick and plays with one hand on his back while sage tickles his feet with a feather.
wat
JJH777
Profile Joined January 2011
United States4415 Posts
January 29 2012 01:50 GMT
#206
On January 29 2012 10:50 aintz wrote:
hsc4 was lan and nerchio has nerve issues i think. he played terribly at hsc4 and just got rolled by mc.

dont know what jjajkji is doing. mech vs zerg is so bad, even when mvp does it he loses.


MVP has beaten DRG and Nestea with mech.
The Final Boss
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1839 Posts
January 29 2012 01:50 GMT
#207
On January 29 2012 10:34 AzoriuS wrote:
You all guys are very funny. Before the match you talk about crushing Nerchio. Now when he wins a game, you talk about lag and try to justify loss of Korean superstar.

Have you been watching this game? Nerchio is playing well, but Jjakji is seriously under performing. If it isn't the lag, would you please explain to me why these games are happening like this? Watch Jjakji's games in GSL, GSTL, even the ESV Weekly tournaments; all his moves are spot on, his control near perfect, and everything just falls into place. Right now it looks super sloppy like it's a completely different player. Lag is really altering this game, were they to play at a LAN/offline event this wouldn't even be close.

Also, I kind of disagree with DoA about double reactor Hellion. I think that if you wind up going mech afterwards (especially if you get that early armory for the upgrades) then your tech isn't that far behind. If you decide to go bio then you are behind but that's also a stupid build order to do.
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
January 29 2012 01:50 GMT
#208
On January 29 2012 10:48 Seraphone wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2012 10:43 Chicane wrote:
On January 29 2012 10:36 Seraphone wrote:
On January 29 2012 10:34 AzoriuS wrote:
You all guys are very funny. Before the match you talk about crushing Nerchio. Now when he wins a game, you talk about lag and try to justify loss of Korean superstar.


I love the guys who live in a dreamland where lag doesn't exist. There's a reason guys like Huk, Jinro, Idra and Naniwa have just flat out refused to play online tournaments because of the lag.


I love how you say that Jjakji is going to win somewhere around 5-1 or 5-2 when you know he is playing for the korean server...

On January 27 2012 07:04 Seraphone wrote:
Jjakji is obviously going to win this but I think Nerchio will take a game or two. It's pretty hard to win a best of 9 without losing a single game.


And then when Nerchio plays well you just fall back on the lag issue. You're just making yourself look like an idiot. You are saying...

On January 29 2012 10:36 Seraphone wrote:
On January 29 2012 10:34 AzoriuS wrote:
You all guys are very funny. Before the match you talk about crushing Nerchio. Now when he wins a game, you talk about lag and try to justify loss of Korean superstar.


I love the guys who live in a dreamland where lag doesn't exist.


Oh? You mean, yourself? You predicted Jjakji easily winning when you knew he was playing from Korea, but NOW it is a valid excuse? Come on. Either you think it isn't a big enough issue that Jjakji can crush him anyway, or you shouldn't have made such a prediction (and then get defensive about it with the following comments) if you apparently knew it was an issue.


Oh you silly boy. Perhaps you would care to read the countless comments from pro's on the topic who state that A) Lag is very different depending on which pro house you're playing from and B) The lag is really unpredictable, some days it will be okay and others it's borderline unplayable.

For example everyone knows the IM house has unplayable lag to the extent Nestea won't play online and Fenix refused to play NASL 2 after a few rounds.

OGS on the other hand is regarded as having one of the better connections.


"Silly boy"? If you are going to make an argument, make an argument and do not resort to ad hominem attacks.
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
snakeeyez
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1231 Posts
January 29 2012 01:50 GMT
#209
Okay but then the mass of corruptor kills the split vikings more easily when they are in smaller number and you can not kite with split vikings. Its all theory crafting but infestor brood lord corruptor is extremely powerful if not unbalanced.
Azhrei16
Profile Joined August 2011
United States284 Posts
January 29 2012 01:51 GMT
#210
I think everyone needs to realize that yeah, Jjakji won a GSL championship. Lost to MVP but still advanced from his group, then beat two protoss and Leenock. This guy hasn't been around the scene for that long and we haven't gotten to see him play a ton of games, he could just be a flash in the pan. Never know. Plus Nerchio had one of the highest win rates in Starcraft II as of 2011.
Shock710
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia6097 Posts
January 29 2012 01:51 GMT
#211
well i knew nerchio was a strong player but DUDE he has been shredding jjakji i mean we kinda expected jjakji the code S champ (who had an epic TvZ match agaisnt leenock) to kinda win this game but i guess MMA is the true TvZ expert T_T jjakji com'on pull through even if u lose plz give us some tottaly epic kick ass games
I mean IPL did say this series was epic
dAPhREAk gives Shock a * | [23:55] <Shock710> that was out of context -_- [16:26] <@motbob> Good question, Shock!
Micket
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom2163 Posts
January 29 2012 01:51 GMT
#212
Pretty terrible play from both sides tbh. Nerchio made so many hatcheries and so few drones he didn't have a bank after being maxed and having 6 bases. If MVP was playing mech, nerchio would have lost over 100 drones to hellions that game since his reaction time and defense was poor. Jjakji just run his units to die for most of the game. Why is the play quality so much lower than standard KR ladder streams?
mijagi182
Profile Joined March 2011
Poland797 Posts
January 29 2012 01:51 GMT
#213
more exuses. some of you guys just cant deal with reality. MC is playing toss afair and ZvP is Nerchio worst match up. Also Stephano is like 0-4 with MC. You mean Steph is crap too?
oh in the sun sun having fun
Seraphone
Profile Joined January 2012
United Kingdom1219 Posts
January 29 2012 01:52 GMT
#214
On January 29 2012 10:50 Bagration wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2012 10:48 Seraphone wrote:
On January 29 2012 10:43 Chicane wrote:
On January 29 2012 10:36 Seraphone wrote:
On January 29 2012 10:34 AzoriuS wrote:
You all guys are very funny. Before the match you talk about crushing Nerchio. Now when he wins a game, you talk about lag and try to justify loss of Korean superstar.


I love the guys who live in a dreamland where lag doesn't exist. There's a reason guys like Huk, Jinro, Idra and Naniwa have just flat out refused to play online tournaments because of the lag.


I love how you say that Jjakji is going to win somewhere around 5-1 or 5-2 when you know he is playing for the korean server...

On January 27 2012 07:04 Seraphone wrote:
Jjakji is obviously going to win this but I think Nerchio will take a game or two. It's pretty hard to win a best of 9 without losing a single game.


And then when Nerchio plays well you just fall back on the lag issue. You're just making yourself look like an idiot. You are saying...

On January 29 2012 10:36 Seraphone wrote:
On January 29 2012 10:34 AzoriuS wrote:
You all guys are very funny. Before the match you talk about crushing Nerchio. Now when he wins a game, you talk about lag and try to justify loss of Korean superstar.


I love the guys who live in a dreamland where lag doesn't exist.


Oh? You mean, yourself? You predicted Jjakji easily winning when you knew he was playing from Korea, but NOW it is a valid excuse? Come on. Either you think it isn't a big enough issue that Jjakji can crush him anyway, or you shouldn't have made such a prediction (and then get defensive about it with the following comments) if you apparently knew it was an issue.


Oh you silly boy. Perhaps you would care to read the countless comments from pro's on the topic who state that A) Lag is very different depending on which pro house you're playing from and B) The lag is really unpredictable, some days it will be okay and others it's borderline unplayable.

For example everyone knows the IM house has unplayable lag to the extent Nestea won't play online and Fenix refused to play NASL 2 after a few rounds.

OGS on the other hand is regarded as having one of the better connections.


"Silly boy"? If you are going to make an argument, make an argument and do not resort to ad hominem attacks.


Erm what?
Mvp, Nestea, Leenock, MC, Oz, Jjakji!
Eppa!
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden4641 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-29 01:55:51
January 29 2012 01:52 GMT
#215
On January 29 2012 10:49 1Eris1 wrote:
Come on Jjakji, turn it around. If you lose I know there are going to be those 1-2 posters that will spam nothing but "Nechio best ZvT on the planet" for the next two weeks.

On a side note. I'm suprised how many people seem to think Jjakji has the best TvZ in the world after only one series

But his play his really really good, he dismantled Zenio. Its is very methodical and he has great unit control and versatility.

What people need to understand is just like cross server events are good achievements (even with lag) it is not the main game type either player practices for.
"Can't wait till Monday" Cixah+Waveofshadow. "Needs to be monday. Weekend please go by quickly." Gahlo
vdale
Profile Joined June 2010
Germany1173 Posts
January 29 2012 01:52 GMT
#216
On January 29 2012 10:46 McFeser wrote:
How come Nerchio couldn't play this well against MC at HC4? He's doing really well.

I think ZvP is his worst matchup and the games were over pretty fast. If I remember correctly 2 losses were because he build his roach warren to late and died to mass zealots.
The Final Boss
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1839 Posts
January 29 2012 01:54 GMT
#217
On January 29 2012 10:50 aintz wrote:
hsc4 was lan and nerchio has nerve issues i think. he played terribly at hsc4 and just got rolled by mc.

dont know what jjajkji is doing. mech vs zerg is so bad, even when mvp does it he loses.

Since when is Mech vs Zerg bad? Jjakji controlled and reacted badly to what Nerchio is doing, but Mech vs Zerg is super strong. Once you reach 200/200 it can be near impossible to stop you.

Also, DoA "not as much innovation in the Korean scene." What on earth are you talking about? Have you heard about SlayerS? Sure you might not encounter SLush or KiWiKaKi style wacky builds on the Korean server, but Korean teams have been consistently pumping out the best strategies and seem to be consistently ahead.
McFeser
Profile Joined July 2011
United States2458 Posts
January 29 2012 01:54 GMT
#218
On January 29 2012 10:50 Elefanto wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2012 10:47 casualman wrote:
On January 29 2012 10:46 Bagration wrote:
Well, I admit that I predicted that Jjakji would dominate Nerchio, and while this series is long from over, I will admit that I appear to have been mistaken again. Well played Nerchio

IPL Fight Club: Where even top Koreans are mortal.

More like IPL: Where koreans play with massive amounts of lag. At least a 2 second delay.


lol

Don't forget he's jet-lagged, tired, sick and plays with one hand on his back while sage tickles his feet with a feather.

Lag is also why SlayerS will never win the Team Arena and IM will never win in the TAC.
Promethelax still hasn't changed his quote
Badfatpanda
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States9719 Posts
January 29 2012 01:54 GMT
#219
wow, gogo nerchio all kill inc? ^^

Hope for some more good games, this is going to be a hard map to take though jjakji is strong on antiga
Music is a higher revelation than all wisdom and philosophy. -Beethoven | Mech isn't a build, it's a way of life. -MajOr | Charlie.Sheen: "What is sarcastic, kids who have no courage to fight?" | #TerranPride #yolo #swag -Naama after 2-0'ing MC at HSC VI
AzoriuS
Profile Joined August 2010
Poland74 Posts
January 29 2012 01:55 GMT
#220
On January 29 2012 10:36 Seraphone wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2012 10:34 AzoriuS wrote:
You all guys are very funny. Before the match you talk about crushing Nerchio. Now when he wins a game, you talk about lag and try to justify loss of Korean superstar.


I love the guys who live in a dreamland where lag doesn't exist. There's a reason guys like Huk, Jinro, Idra and Naniwa have just flat out refused to play online tournaments because of the lag.


It looks like this showmatch for you and your friends is worthless because in your minds Nerchio already lost no matter what score will be at the end.
Prev 1 9 10 11 12 13 37 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 1d 2h
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
DivinesiaTV 49
SortOf 35
StarCraft: Brood War
Sea 2112
Horang2 1932
GuemChi 1395
Stork 584
Hyuk 384
actioN 373
Soma 327
Larva 299
Jaedong 294
Zeus 269
[ Show more ]
PianO 166
Shuttle 126
Leta 110
Sharp 100
EffOrt 94
Last 86
ggaemo 74
ToSsGirL 70
hero 51
ZerO 41
Shine 40
NaDa 32
Nal_rA 24
yabsab 21
Sacsri 18
ajuk12(nOOB) 10
Noble 7
HiyA 5
Dota 2
Gorgc959
NeuroSwarm124
League of Legends
C9.Mang0630
Other Games
Fuzer 312
Mew2King27
ZerO(Twitch)9
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick1042
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Light_VIP 31
• Adnapsc2 11
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• iopq 4
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• HappyZerGling157
Upcoming Events
OSC
1d 2h
Korean StarCraft League
1d 16h
OSC
2 days
IPSL
2 days
Dewalt vs Bonyth
OSC
2 days
OSC
3 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
3 days
Replay Cast
3 days
Patches Events
4 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

C-Race Season 1
WardiTV 2025
META Madness #9

Ongoing

IPSL Winter 2025-26
BSL Season 21
Slon Tour Season 2
CSL Season 19: Qualifier 2
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S1: W2
CSL 2025 WINTER (S19)
Escore Tournament S1: W3
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
HSC XXVIII
Thunderfire SC2 All-star 2025
Big Gabe Cup #3
OSC Championship Season 13
Nations Cup 2026
Underdog Cup #3
NA Kuram Kup
ESL Pro League Season 23
ESL Pro League Season 23
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.