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AssyrianKing
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia2115 Posts
January 19 2012 12:42 GMT
#1581
NOO NaDa
John 15:13
Haydin
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1481 Posts
January 19 2012 12:42 GMT
#1582
Ah, balance whine in LRs....
aka ilovesharkpeople
AcrossFiveJulys
Profile Blog Joined September 2005
United States3612 Posts
January 19 2012 12:42 GMT
#1583
On January 19 2012 21:38 bittman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2012 21:34 AcrossFiveJulys wrote:
Yuck. What a joke.

So puzzle wins games with...

7 gate
sloppy macro into late game protoss (only game he wasn't allin)
void ray allin
nexus first into 7 gate

fuck this guy


You're right. This guy is a regular BitbyBit and every player should be like TOP and just be good at macro until they are on 5 - 12 bases before attacking.

=/


Cmon now. Puzzle saying "I'M GOING ALLIN" and hoping his opponent doesn't respond correctly 3/4 games does not show skill. At least when MC was doing it he was the first.
Clazziquai10
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore1949 Posts
January 19 2012 12:42 GMT
#1584
On January 19 2012 21:39 Pajegetc wrote:
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On January 19 2012 21:37 FabledIntegral wrote:
On January 19 2012 21:36 darkness wrote:
On January 19 2012 21:34 AcrossFiveJulys wrote:
Yuck. What a joke.

So puzzle wins games with...

7 gate
sloppy macro into late game protoss (only game he wasn't allin)
void ray allin
nexus first into 7 gate

fuck this guy


All of which are defendable. Blame his opponents instead.


What a stupid comment...


Except he's right?


So..........Terran still OP?
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12904 Posts
January 19 2012 12:42 GMT
#1585
On January 19 2012 21:40 BrassMonkey27 wrote:
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On January 19 2012 21:35 Asha` wrote:
8 of 15 Terrans advance to r16 (53%)
5 of 8 Protoss advance to r16 (63%)
3 of 9 Zerg advance to r16 (33%)



Not surprising.. Zerg is a little underpowered at a GSL level at this point in time. Terran is always strong, Protoss has strong timing attacks and an improved lategame while infestors have become almost useless and everything Tier 3 gets sniped.

I'm hoping that snipe becomes ineffective versus Massive units in an upcoming patch, its just too easy..

It's not that zerg is underpowered at GSL level, it's only the fact that IdrA & SEn who are not code S level at all (maybe code A? but I don't think so there are so many beasts in code A), Lucky who was in the same group as Mvp & NesTea, and CoCa who is a true code S zerg who got banned (or forfeited himself something like that).
WriterMaru
HeroUlyssess
Profile Joined August 2011
New Zealand46 Posts
January 19 2012 12:42 GMT
#1586
On January 19 2012 21:41 xinxy wrote:
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On January 19 2012 21:40 avilo wrote:
On January 19 2012 21:39 double620 wrote:
8 terrans in the ro16, but all the terrans are crying that they are too weak.


There were more Terrans than the other races at the start of the format to begin with...you realize that right?


Which reinforces the point that Terran are still too strong? I mean if the tournament had nothing but T some of them would still be eliminated, you realize that right?


More like the old Code S format made it very hard to drop out and hard to get into, and it just as easily could have been 15 Zergs in Code S or 15 protosses
Cabinet Sanchez
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia1097 Posts
January 19 2012 12:43 GMT
#1587
On January 19 2012 21:39 xinxy wrote:
The Terran tears in this thread are pretty delicious I gotta say. I mean there's as many T left in r16 as P and Z combined but that won't stop cries of imbalance apparently. It must be absolute Terran majority for the game to be "balanced".


Considering I stopped watching the GSL for 4 months due to Terran vs Protoss issues, you couldn't be more right, this shit is so delicious, I'm fucking feasting right now, good lord it's tasty.
double620
Profile Joined July 2011
China804 Posts
January 19 2012 12:43 GMT
#1588
On January 19 2012 21:38 Pandemona wrote:
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On January 19 2012 21:35 MorroW wrote:
On January 19 2012 21:34 Lord_J wrote:
Nada has to play the winner of Polt-Creator...

i hope its creator so we can have a real tvp
first time i said creator was the best pvt player by far was a few months back when he was up against nada

i hope puzzle loses quickly and goes out of code s lol



Poltimus has a very good TvP though mr Morrow, but if creator has the PvT you rate him for going to be a SICKKK match up.

Also, how come 15nexus countered his 2rax? t.t



it is just like cc first couters two gates. it is simple
MorroW
Profile Joined August 2008
Sweden3522 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-19 12:44:54
January 19 2012 12:43 GMT
#1589
On January 19 2012 21:38 Pandemona wrote:
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On January 19 2012 21:35 MorroW wrote:
On January 19 2012 21:34 Lord_J wrote:
Nada has to play the winner of Polt-Creator...

i hope its creator so we can have a real tvp
first time i said creator was the best pvt player by far was a few months back when he was up against nada

i hope puzzle loses quickly and goes out of code s lol



Poltimus has a very good TvP though mr Morrow, but if creator has the PvT you rate him for going to be a SICKKK match up.

Also, how come 15nexus countered his 2rax? t.t

because he didnt send scvs with it.
he had 3 choises:
1: send bare amount of scvs to equalize the game (which was what he did)
2: send more than enough scvs (like 10 or something) to ensure the win if toss doesnt run up the ramp and sacrifice his nexus (goes back to 1base vs 1base but terran behind)
3: send enough scvs to kill toss if he fights for killing the nexus and gets ahead if toss just ran up the ramp and gave up nexus

option 3 sounds optimal but the problem with that is if toss double mind games and cuts probes he can actually hold that too barely with perfect control and then toss is ahead. the best thing nada could have done is to run up toss main base after scouting the nexus, analyse the +2gateway timing and figure out the exact number of scvs he needed to send. but he didnt


and ye creator is still the overall best pvt player ive seen to date. he doesnt fuck around with coinflipping and he doesnt make big blunders, he is just very good and very solid all around so he is one of very very few who can fight from behind in this matchup against top terran
Progamerpls no copy pasterino
luke3920
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom182 Posts
January 19 2012 12:43 GMT
#1590
erm all this balance whine, when Nada didn't scout the nexus first in the last game until it was already up....deserves to lose just for that i'm afraid
Not write me more about balance, or next time i kick you ass
Tsubbi
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany7996 Posts
January 19 2012 12:43 GMT
#1591
On January 19 2012 21:42 Ricemagical wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2012 21:34 Tsubbi wrote:
On January 19 2012 21:30 Fionn wrote:
This could be the first time ever where Protoss isn't last in racial distribution in the Ro16 in GSL history.


last season had 5p 3z in ro16

also august had 4 p 3z
july 5p 4z
may 5p 4z
march 5p 4z
january 4p 3z

lol im frustrated now, in essence zerg sucks

You're getting 16 and 32 confused bro.


no, check liquipedia http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/GOMTV_Global_Starcraft_II_League
Leetley
Profile Joined October 2010
1796 Posts
January 19 2012 12:43 GMT
#1592
On January 19 2012 21:42 labbe wrote:
Blizzard better fix the protoss race in Heart of the Swarm. They are just sooo boring to watch no matter what race they face, but PvT is the worst. Sucks to watch starcraft when you know beforehand that every match including a protoss will be boring to watch.

I don't think P is boring to watch, but the race mechanics need refining.
Wildmoon
Profile Joined December 2011
Thailand4189 Posts
January 19 2012 12:44 GMT
#1593
Why most of protoss pros are handsome?
bittman
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia8759 Posts
January 19 2012 12:44 GMT
#1594
On January 19 2012 21:40 avilo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2012 21:39 double620 wrote:
8 terrans in the ro16, but all the terrans are crying that they are too weak.


There were more Terrans than the other races at the start of the format to begin with...you realize that right?


Terran Ro32 - 15 / 32 (less than half)
Terran Ro16 - 8/16 (HALF)

So yes. Terran should be crying because this is exactly the same as the last Code S and nothing's changed people move along.

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2012_Global_StarCraft_II_League_Season_1/Code_S#Racial_Distribution
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2011_Global_StarCraft_II_League_November/Code_S#Racial_Distribution
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Corrosive
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada3741 Posts
January 19 2012 12:44 GMT
#1595
How to subtly balance whine without getting in trouble:
Say watching protoss is boring because of how the race is designed!

If a protoss does anything besides long 40 minute games it's an "all in" or its "cheese"

T-T
Maruprime.
BrassMonkey27
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada616 Posts
January 19 2012 12:44 GMT
#1596
On January 19 2012 21:42 labbe wrote:
Blizzard better fix the protoss race in Heart of the Swarm. They are just sooo boring to watch no matter what race they face, but PvT is the worst. Sucks to watch starcraft when you know beforehand that every match including a protoss will be boring to watch.



Starts and ends with the Collossi man. Most boring unit in a starcraft game. Takes very little skill to use, is extremely powerful, and if they die the Toss is fucked. The unit needs a complete redesign or be replaced with something else. Not to mention they are ugly to look at!
HoneyBadger.784 Diamond KR "A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep."
andaylin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States10830 Posts
January 19 2012 12:44 GMT
#1597
On January 19 2012 21:44 Wildmoon wrote:
Why most of protoss pros are handsome?

MKP > All Protoss
"Hard work beats talent when talent fails to work hard." - Kevin Durant
R!!
Profile Joined November 2011
Brazil938 Posts
January 19 2012 12:45 GMT
#1598
On January 19 2012 21:42 HolyArrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2012 21:40 avilo wrote:
On January 19 2012 21:39 double620 wrote:
8 terrans in the ro16, but all the terrans are crying that they are too weak.


There were more Terrans than the other races at the start of the format to begin with...you realize that right?


Doesn't more Terrans at the start still indicate that they're doing okay in the big picture, though? Terran numbers have indeed gone down since the nightmare that was 20 Terrans in Code S though, so I'm glad for that, at least.

I'd take TvTs all day instead of watching puzzle 7gate his way.
I like the part where sense is considered a common, settled thing.
Ricemagical
Profile Joined November 2010
270 Posts
January 19 2012 12:45 GMT
#1599
On January 19 2012 21:43 Tsubbi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2012 21:42 Ricemagical wrote:
On January 19 2012 21:34 Tsubbi wrote:
On January 19 2012 21:30 Fionn wrote:
This could be the first time ever where Protoss isn't last in racial distribution in the Ro16 in GSL history.


last season had 5p 3z in ro16

also august had 4 p 3z
july 5p 4z
may 5p 4z
march 5p 4z
january 4p 3z

lol im frustrated now, in essence zerg sucks

You're getting 16 and 32 confused bro.


no, check liquipedia http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/GOMTV_Global_Starcraft_II_League

Ooops my bad, gsl november feels like forever ago.
Shield
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Bulgaria4824 Posts
January 19 2012 12:45 GMT
#1600
On January 19 2012 21:44 Corrosive wrote:
How to subtly balance whine without getting in trouble:
Say watching protoss is boring because of how the race is designed!

If a protoss does anything besides long 40 minute games it's an "all in" or its "cheese"

T-T


I didn't realise that, but you seem to be right! :D
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