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On January 18 2012 18:34 Drazerk wrote:Show nested quote +On January 18 2012 18:33 Drazerk wrote:Game Two on entombed valley In the bottom left is  Brown In the top left is  Alive
3:00
Barracks / gas for Alive Core for brown who has his gas
3:40Expansion for Alive Warp tech for Brown
5:20Two barracks for Alive with his second gas Expansion for Brown
6:30Stim for Alive Robo for Brown
8:00Factory for Alive with combat shield Double forge and multi observer from Brown
9:001/1 for brown with a twilight council Both players moving around brown's ramp
10:00Blink and colossus for brown Alive re expanding Warp prism harassment in the main
13:00
Third on the way for Brown Alive keeps dropping
14:00Ebay and ghost academy for Alive 2/1 for Brown and getting charge
16:003/3 for Brown Alive getting a lot of barracks and Vikings
17:30Nuke for Alive Psi storm and a fourth for brown
19:00
Nuke kills the cannons
army engaging
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On January 18 2012 18:43 ftd.rain wrote:Show nested quote +On January 18 2012 18:38 JJH777 wrote:On January 18 2012 18:36 ftd.rain wrote:On January 18 2012 18:32 JJH777 wrote:On January 18 2012 18:31 SnipedSoul wrote:
It was 100 supply for Alive vs 130 for brown but he was 50 probes ahead so his army was way smaller. Are you all really shocked that a much larger army won? That's what it was right after Browns attack but by the time Alive actually attacked at the third Brown was like 50+ supply ahead. That game came down to a single emp. God TvP is a terrible matchup. Alive's army was still bigger and better, Brown had mostly zealots and 3 psi storms available, where's the aoe?I would be surprised if he hadn't been crushed, regardless of emps. I bet in army cost they were near equal or Brown was ahead. TvP comes down to a single spell cast. Not surprising. Worst matchup in the game besides PvP. That's simply not true, we saw sC freely EMPing genius' entire army ( no observers anywhere near), 200 vs 200, and sc still lost that battle. Zealots aren't supposed to beat MMM by themselves, they need something backing them up, Brown was dead when he threw away his army to kill Alive's econ, same happened to DRG yesterday, but, by all means, let's just whine about how imba terran is.
I don't think T is imba. I think the matchup is BS for both sides. It's always 1 moment determines the winner and comebacks are ridiculously rare compared to PvZ, ZvT, and TvT matchups. It's not true that he was dead after his army died. The army supplies were basically equal by the time the main engagement happened.
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On January 18 2012 18:34 Drazerk wrote:Show nested quote +On January 18 2012 18:33 Drazerk wrote:Game Two on entombed valley In the bottom left is Brown In the top left is Alive
3:00
Barracks / gas for Alive Core for brown who has his gas
3:40Expansion for Alive Warp tech for Brown
5:20Two barracks for Alive with his second gas Expansion for Brown
6:30Stim for Alive Robo for Brown
8:00Factory for Alive with combat shield Double forge and multi observer from Brown
9:001/1 for brown with a twilight council Both players moving around brown's ramp
10:00Blink and colossus for brown Alive re expanding Warp prism harassment in the main
13:00
Third on the way for Brown Alive keeps dropping
14:00Ebay and ghost academy for Alive 2/1 for Brown and getting charge
16:003/3 for Brown Alive getting a lot of barracks and Vikings
17:30Nuke for Alive Psi storm and a fourth for brown
19:00Nuke kills the cannons army engaging
20:10
Vikings down and the armies have been traded
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Musn't... mention... late... game... TvP... warp ins...
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As I said, Tech advantage too crazy for Brown. He's playin' CreatorPrime PvT double forge style.
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On January 18 2012 18:45 JJH777 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 18 2012 18:43 ftd.rain wrote:On January 18 2012 18:38 JJH777 wrote:On January 18 2012 18:36 ftd.rain wrote:On January 18 2012 18:32 JJH777 wrote:On January 18 2012 18:31 SnipedSoul wrote:
It was 100 supply for Alive vs 130 for brown but he was 50 probes ahead so his army was way smaller. Are you all really shocked that a much larger army won? That's what it was right after Browns attack but by the time Alive actually attacked at the third Brown was like 50+ supply ahead. That game came down to a single emp. God TvP is a terrible matchup. Alive's army was still bigger and better, Brown had mostly zealots and 3 psi storms available, where's the aoe?I would be surprised if he hadn't been crushed, regardless of emps. I bet in army cost they were near equal or Brown was ahead. TvP comes down to a single spell cast. Not surprising. Worst matchup in the game besides PvP. That's simply not true, we saw sC freely EMPing genius' entire army ( no observers anywhere near), 200 vs 200, and sc still lost that battle. Zealots aren't supposed to beat MMM by themselves, they need something backing them up, Brown was dead when he threw away his army to kill Alive's econ, same happened to DRG yesterday, but, by all means, let's just whine about how imba terran is. I don't think T is imba. I think the matchup is BS for both sides. It's always 1 moment determines the winner and comebacks are ridiculously rare compared to PvZ, ZvT, and TvT matchups. It's not true that he was dead after his army died. The army supplies were basically equal by the time the main engagement happened.
In that way TvP really is similar to PvP, way to fragile of a matchup
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All colossus died in a second. Doesnt matter, Protoss won the engagement with skillz.
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On January 18 2012 18:46 mvtaylor wrote:
Musn't... mention... late... game... TvP... warp ins...
Then next time don't.
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On January 18 2012 18:34 Drazerk wrote:Show nested quote +On January 18 2012 18:33 Drazerk wrote:Game Two on entombed valley In the bottom left is Brown In the top left is Alive
3:00
Barracks / gas for Alive Core for brown who has his gas
3:40Expansion for Alive Warp tech for Brown
5:20Two barracks for Alive with his second gas Expansion for Brown
6:30Stim for Alive Robo for Brown
8:00Factory for Alive with combat shield Double forge and multi observer from Brown
9:001/1 for brown with a twilight council Both players moving around brown's ramp
10:00Blink and colossus for brown Alive re expanding Warp prism harassment in the main
13:00
Third on the way for Brown Alive keeps dropping
14:00Ebay and ghost academy for Alive 2/1 for Brown and getting charge
16:003/3 for Brown Alive getting a lot of barracks and Vikings
17:30Nuke for Alive Psi storm and a fourth for brown
19:00Nuke kills the cannons army engaging
20:10Vikings down and the armies have been traded
21:10
Fifth base for brown with another robo
Drops from alive
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United Kingdom31255 Posts
On January 18 2012 18:34 Drazerk wrote:Show nested quote +On January 18 2012 18:33 Drazerk wrote:Game Two on entombed valley In the bottom left is Brown In the top left is Alive
3:00
Barracks / gas for Alive Core for brown who has his gas
3:40Expansion for Alive Warp tech for Brown
5:20Two barracks for Alive with his second gas Expansion for Brown
6:30Stim for Alive Robo for Brown
8:00Factory for Alive with combat shield Double forge and multi observer from Brown
9:001/1 for brown with a twilight council Both players moving around brown's ramp
10:00Blink and colossus for brown Alive re expanding Warp prism harassment in the main
13:00
Third on the way for Brown Alive keeps dropping
14:00Ebay and ghost academy for Alive 2/1 for Brown and getting charge
16:003/3 for Brown Alive getting a lot of barracks and Vikings
17:30Nuke for Alive Psi storm and a fourth for brown
19:00Nuke kills the cannons army engaging
20:10Vikings down and the armies have been traded
21:10Fifth base for brown with another robo Drops from alive
22:00
brown kills three expansions
drop kills a few zealots
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My stream just crashed and I'm getting "cannot play this media file" error code: 0x00000051
Help please? 
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holy crap how did brown hold that?
what are upgrades at for both players?
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Man, Brown has totally got this now, he's just playing completely wonderful solid macro and no matter what advantage he has he's not pushing it.
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On January 18 2012 18:46 mvtaylor wrote:
Musn't... mention... late... game... TvP... warp ins...
You just mentioned it.
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On January 18 2012 18:46 mvtaylor wrote:
Musn't... mention... late... game... TvP... warp ins...
How...should...deal....with drops....without....warp ins....
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EPT
