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CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
January 17 2012 00:11 GMT
#161
On January 17 2012 09:09 Sub40APM wrote:
did i fall for artosis uber hype re idra being 'beastly' because of all that Slayers training? Taeja seems to be all over idra on this one in cheese or macrogames.


Training partners don't make the man. Remember KT Flash and Jaedong Oz?
WriterWovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen.
Baum
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany1010 Posts
January 17 2012 00:11 GMT
#162
On January 17 2012 09:08 clusen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2012 09:00 Badfatpanda wrote:
On January 17 2012 08:56 clusen wrote:
It's not all in, he will just pressure with a bunch of roaches


? Delay speed, delay lair, invest larva in a ton of roaches, get a roach warren when it's completely useless later in the game, esp if you're IdrA.

Pretty allin IMO, but a very good decision on this map after scouting cc first

It's really not an all in, he started a queen as soon as he pushed and you don't do that when you all in with roaches and 20 drones ^^

You dont need fast speed vs 14cc and you can make up for the cost with scv kills, as he did, and it was a good choice imo if you consider that the passive "i macro better than you"-approach got abused pretty hard by Taeja on Daybreak.


It wasn't an all in but he should have taken a third instead of "rushing" for mutas when he spent his early gas on roaches.
I want to be with those who share secret things or else alone.
cyclone25
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Romania3344 Posts
January 17 2012 00:11 GMT
#163
IdrA is losing hope (and I'm not talking only about this series).

I doubt he will be able to win anything in 2012.
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
January 17 2012 00:12 GMT
#164
Well, we all knew what was likely to happen once IdrA lost the first game against a 2 rax proxy.
FuTon
Profile Joined April 2011
United States308 Posts
January 17 2012 00:12 GMT
#165
On January 17 2012 09:11 FreshandLegit wrote:
who the fuck is wacksteven

Look at the screen, his name is Christopher Iannitti
Savern101
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom859 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-17 00:19:53
January 17 2012 00:12 GMT
#166
I'm listening to Demuslim commentating on this and he mentioned these were played just after Idra got to korea, so this isn't "SlayerS" Idra we're watching

Edit: ESV staff said it was 3 days ago, Demuslim was wrong, my apologies. Shame, Idra doesn't look in good shape.
EG.DeMusliM/d.BlinG/UK Fighting!
cyclone25
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Romania3344 Posts
January 17 2012 00:12 GMT
#167
On January 17 2012 09:10 kyllinghest wrote:
Quite the show Idra is putting on in this showmatch. That match was not over.


It was over. 3 base terran > 3 base zerg. Also Taeja had 3k minerals, 2k gas, IdrA had nothing?
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
January 17 2012 00:13 GMT
#168
On January 17 2012 09:12 cyclone25 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2012 09:10 kyllinghest wrote:
Quite the show Idra is putting on in this showmatch. That match was not over.


It was over. 3 base terran > 3 base zerg. Also Taeja had 3k minerals, 2k gas, IdrA had nothing?


comeback doesn't belong to his vocabulary that's all.
Zest fanboy.
Recoil
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States276 Posts
January 17 2012 00:13 GMT
#169
On January 17 2012 09:12 Savern101 wrote:
I'm listening to Demuslim commentating on this and he mentioned these were played just after Idra got to korea, so this isn't "SlayerS" Idra we're watching


These games were played 3 nights ago. I know because I work for ESV.
L3g3nd_
Profile Joined July 2010
New Zealand10461 Posts
January 17 2012 00:13 GMT
#170
please not a 4-0!
https://twitter.com/#!/IrisAnother
Tanukki
Profile Joined June 2011
Finland579 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-17 00:15:11
January 17 2012 00:13 GMT
#171
Taeja is really really solid. He can macro, turtle against mutas, dodge the banelings, transition into ghosts...it's like IdrA playing standard is already in a checkmate before the game begins.

The roach rush when he saw Taeja do CC first was nice. He needs to pull more smart moves like that.
Hrrrrm
Profile Joined March 2010
United States2081 Posts
January 17 2012 00:14 GMT
#172
On January 17 2012 09:13 Recoil wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2012 09:12 Savern101 wrote:
I'm listening to Demuslim commentating on this and he mentioned these were played just after Idra got to korea, so this isn't "SlayerS" Idra we're watching


These games were played 3 nights ago. I know because I work for ESV.


Glad to see this before the excuses start raining down.
alot = a lot (TWO WORDS)
cyclone25
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Romania3344 Posts
January 17 2012 00:14 GMT
#173
On January 17 2012 09:13 sAsImre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2012 09:12 cyclone25 wrote:
On January 17 2012 09:10 kyllinghest wrote:
Quite the show Idra is putting on in this showmatch. That match was not over.


It was over. 3 base terran > 3 base zerg. Also Taeja had 3k minerals, 2k gas, IdrA had nothing?


comeback doesn't belong to his vocabulary that's all.


I never saw a zerg coming back from being so far behind. He also had no banelings left, Taeja had plenty of marines near his bases.
TheDougler
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada8313 Posts
January 17 2012 00:15 GMT
#174

... kk typical Idra mindset, really disappointing.


Yeah. Honestly, I think it's the harshest thing I've ever said about a pro-gamer but I can't WAIT until IdrA is old news. I think he's kind of bad for e-sports with just giving up. Not even the early GGs, though that is part of it. Whether IdrA believes he can or he believes he can't defeat his opponent he ends up being right. It's that fatalistic mentality and it makes it SO HARD to be an EG fan. You'll never see IdrA fight off his back and back into it. Sure it'd be a long shot whenever he leaves early, but it's that heroic warrior spirit that I love to see, and IdrA just doesn't have it. As much as I'd like to tell myself I don't care whenever IdrA loses to a korean opponent when representing the foreign seen, the reality is he still ends up breaking my heart a little with every crushing defeat.
I root for Euro Zergs, NA Protoss* and Korean Terrans. (Any North American who has beat a Korean Pro as Protoss counts as NA Toss)
Roggay
Profile Joined April 2010
Switzerland6320 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-17 00:15:35
January 17 2012 00:15 GMT
#175
On January 17 2012 09:12 Savern101 wrote:
I'm listening to Demuslim commentating on this and he mentioned these were played just after Idra got to korea, so this isn't "SlayerS" Idra we're watching

Oh wow, I didnt know Demuslim was casting it! Should have said that sooner.
Dreaming11
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom105 Posts
January 17 2012 00:15 GMT
#176
On January 17 2012 09:13 sAsImre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2012 09:12 cyclone25 wrote:
On January 17 2012 09:10 kyllinghest wrote:
Quite the show Idra is putting on in this showmatch. That match was not over.


It was over. 3 base terran > 3 base zerg. Also Taeja had 3k minerals, 2k gas, IdrA had nothing?


comeback doesn't belong to his vocabulary that's all.


I think its difficult to make a comeback as zerg in a straight up fight because of the binary nature of their attack move units (e.g. you either have enough, or you dont - very unlike something like MC's stalkers where he can play from behind and win because dat control).

He did try sending his mutalisks behind to try to slow down Taeja's economy but the marines were already there. I think he was out of time and out of options.

It's always nice to see him play it out though, but this is IdrA, he doesn't play a game out if he knows he's lost.
werynais
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany1780 Posts
January 17 2012 00:16 GMT
#177
This room is in slow mode and you are sending messages too quickly. You will be able to talk again in 22 minutes.


Haha, the chat loves idra ?
EMCL
Profile Joined September 2010
United States71 Posts
January 17 2012 00:16 GMT
#178
Idra is simply playing poorly. Not microing roaches away. Banelings hitting thors and tanks. Sending in banelings before tanks die.

Sending in mutas before zerglings. Etc.

Also his expand timings have been weird, they seem to be VERY late compared to normal?
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
January 17 2012 00:16 GMT
#179
On January 17 2012 09:14 cyclone25 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2012 09:13 sAsImre wrote:
On January 17 2012 09:12 cyclone25 wrote:
On January 17 2012 09:10 kyllinghest wrote:
Quite the show Idra is putting on in this showmatch. That match was not over.


It was over. 3 base terran > 3 base zerg. Also Taeja had 3k minerals, 2k gas, IdrA had nothing?


comeback doesn't belong to his vocabulary that's all.


I never saw a zerg coming back from being so far behind. He also had no banelings left, Taeja had plenty of marines near his bases.


he has all his mutas, and Taeja didn't land his 4th at this time. He just need to get a good engagement, Taeja was going to back his army anyway his marines were half life. Not like i see it happening against Taeja tonight, he plays way better than Idra currently :'(
Zest fanboy.
FreudianTrip
Profile Joined July 2011
Switzerland1983 Posts
January 17 2012 00:17 GMT
#180
"We have seen 4-3 comebacks."

Yeah, most of them were frikkin' Taeja.
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