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On January 17 2012 09:09 Sub40APM wrote: did i fall for artosis uber hype re idra being 'beastly' because of all that Slayers training? Taeja seems to be all over idra on this one in cheese or macrogames.
Training partners don't make the man. Remember KT Flash and Jaedong Oz?
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On January 17 2012 09:08 clusen wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2012 09:00 Badfatpanda wrote:On January 17 2012 08:56 clusen wrote: It's not all in, he will just pressure with a bunch of roaches ? Delay speed, delay lair, invest larva in a ton of roaches, get a roach warren when it's completely useless later in the game, esp if you're IdrA. Pretty allin IMO, but a very good decision on this map after scouting cc first It's really not an all in, he started a queen as soon as he pushed and you don't do that when you all in with roaches and 20 drones ^^ You dont need fast speed vs 14cc and you can make up for the cost with scv kills, as he did, and it was a good choice imo if you consider that the passive "i macro better than you"-approach got abused pretty hard by Taeja on Daybreak.
It wasn't an all in but he should have taken a third instead of "rushing" for mutas when he spent his early gas on roaches.
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IdrA is losing hope (and I'm not talking only about this series). I doubt he will be able to win anything in 2012.
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Well, we all knew what was likely to happen once IdrA lost the first game against a 2 rax proxy.
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On January 17 2012 09:11 FreshandLegit wrote: who the fuck is wacksteven
Look at the screen, his name is Christopher Iannitti
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I'm listening to Demuslim commentating on this and he mentioned these were played just after Idra got to korea, so this isn't "SlayerS" Idra we're watching
Edit: ESV staff said it was 3 days ago, Demuslim was wrong, my apologies. Shame, Idra doesn't look in good shape.
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On January 17 2012 09:10 kyllinghest wrote: Quite the show Idra is putting on in this showmatch. That match was not over.
It was over. 3 base terran > 3 base zerg. Also Taeja had 3k minerals, 2k gas, IdrA had nothing?
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On January 17 2012 09:12 cyclone25 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2012 09:10 kyllinghest wrote: Quite the show Idra is putting on in this showmatch. That match was not over. It was over. 3 base terran > 3 base zerg. Also Taeja had 3k minerals, 2k gas, IdrA had nothing?
comeback doesn't belong to his vocabulary that's all.
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On January 17 2012 09:12 Savern101 wrote: I'm listening to Demuslim commentating on this and he mentioned these were played just after Idra got to korea, so this isn't "SlayerS" Idra we're watching
These games were played 3 nights ago. I know because I work for ESV.
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Taeja is really really solid. He can macro, turtle against mutas, dodge the banelings, transition into ghosts...it's like IdrA playing standard is already in a checkmate before the game begins.
The roach rush when he saw Taeja do CC first was nice. He needs to pull more smart moves like that.
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On January 17 2012 09:13 Recoil wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2012 09:12 Savern101 wrote: I'm listening to Demuslim commentating on this and he mentioned these were played just after Idra got to korea, so this isn't "SlayerS" Idra we're watching These games were played 3 nights ago. I know because I work for ESV.
Glad to see this before the excuses start raining down.
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On January 17 2012 09:13 sAsImre wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2012 09:12 cyclone25 wrote:On January 17 2012 09:10 kyllinghest wrote: Quite the show Idra is putting on in this showmatch. That match was not over. It was over. 3 base terran > 3 base zerg. Also Taeja had 3k minerals, 2k gas, IdrA had nothing? comeback doesn't belong to his vocabulary that's all.
I never saw a zerg coming back from being so far behind. He also had no banelings left, Taeja had plenty of marines near his bases.
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... kk typical Idra mindset, really disappointing.
Yeah. Honestly, I think it's the harshest thing I've ever said about a pro-gamer but I can't WAIT until IdrA is old news. I think he's kind of bad for e-sports with just giving up. Not even the early GGs, though that is part of it. Whether IdrA believes he can or he believes he can't defeat his opponent he ends up being right. It's that fatalistic mentality and it makes it SO HARD to be an EG fan. You'll never see IdrA fight off his back and back into it. Sure it'd be a long shot whenever he leaves early, but it's that heroic warrior spirit that I love to see, and IdrA just doesn't have it. As much as I'd like to tell myself I don't care whenever IdrA loses to a korean opponent when representing the foreign seen, the reality is he still ends up breaking my heart a little with every crushing defeat.
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On January 17 2012 09:12 Savern101 wrote: I'm listening to Demuslim commentating on this and he mentioned these were played just after Idra got to korea, so this isn't "SlayerS" Idra we're watching Oh wow, I didnt know Demuslim was casting it! Should have said that sooner.
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On January 17 2012 09:13 sAsImre wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2012 09:12 cyclone25 wrote:On January 17 2012 09:10 kyllinghest wrote: Quite the show Idra is putting on in this showmatch. That match was not over. It was over. 3 base terran > 3 base zerg. Also Taeja had 3k minerals, 2k gas, IdrA had nothing? comeback doesn't belong to his vocabulary that's all.
I think its difficult to make a comeback as zerg in a straight up fight because of the binary nature of their attack move units (e.g. you either have enough, or you dont - very unlike something like MC's stalkers where he can play from behind and win because dat control).
He did try sending his mutalisks behind to try to slow down Taeja's economy but the marines were already there. I think he was out of time and out of options.
It's always nice to see him play it out though, but this is IdrA, he doesn't play a game out if he knows he's lost.
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This room is in slow mode and you are sending messages too quickly. You will be able to talk again in 22 minutes.
Haha, the chat loves idra ?
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Idra is simply playing poorly. Not microing roaches away. Banelings hitting thors and tanks. Sending in banelings before tanks die.
Sending in mutas before zerglings. Etc.
Also his expand timings have been weird, they seem to be VERY late compared to normal?
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On January 17 2012 09:14 cyclone25 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2012 09:13 sAsImre wrote:On January 17 2012 09:12 cyclone25 wrote:On January 17 2012 09:10 kyllinghest wrote: Quite the show Idra is putting on in this showmatch. That match was not over. It was over. 3 base terran > 3 base zerg. Also Taeja had 3k minerals, 2k gas, IdrA had nothing? comeback doesn't belong to his vocabulary that's all. I never saw a zerg coming back from being so far behind. He also had no banelings left, Taeja had plenty of marines near his bases.
he has all his mutas, and Taeja didn't land his 4th at this time. He just need to get a good engagement, Taeja was going to back his army anyway his marines were half life. Not like i see it happening against Taeja tonight, he plays way better than Idra currently :'(
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"We have seen 4-3 comebacks."
Yeah, most of them were frikkin' Taeja.
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