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On January 30 2012 12:22 Vond wrote:Show nested quote +On January 30 2012 12:16 habbey wrote:i know its a bit late with this but... i lost a lot of respect for stephano today... its a sad day  This whole situation is rather funny, personally I don't feel Stephano did anything wrong considering how late the tournament is being played for the europeans. On offline tournaments it's not an issue to play on US times, but for online tournies it's a different beast since that means finals etc are being played in the middle of the night for europeans. Sure, for Kas it's even later and he's still there and I'm personally awake even though it's past 4am, but I still understand his decision. I think it's sad it came to this, but I understand both onog and Stephano. Tumba lost every ounce of what little respect I had for him however and I'll boycot casts by him in the future for sure.
i'd agree with you if the tournament was scheduled for a surprise random time. it wasn't. this is just super unprofessional, and i expect professionalism in the things i choose to sink my time into (especially because i have so little free time these days).
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On January 30 2012 12:24 HappyChris wrote:
The funny thing is LiquidTyler also forfeits but he didnt say any reason whatsoever but nop the TL posters got np at all with it. However when Stephano does it hole TL goes abeshit..
I seen this for so long time now it got nothing todo with what stephano did. It got everything todo that he beats players so horrible that there fans gets angry and he make so much money and people just cant accept it.
jealousy thats the word..
you see no difference between forfeiting in the finals after playing the tourney vs forfeiting before the tourney starts?
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On January 30 2012 12:25 habbey wrote:Show nested quote +On January 30 2012 12:22 Vond wrote:On January 30 2012 12:16 habbey wrote:i know its a bit late with this but... i lost a lot of respect for stephano today... its a sad day This whole situation is rather funny, personally I don't feel Stephano did anything wrong considering how late the tournament is being played for the europeans. On offline tournaments it's not an issue to play on US times, but for online tournies it's a different beast since that means finals etc are being played in the middle of the night for europeans. Sure, for Kas it's even later and he's still there and I'm personally awake even though it's past 4am, but I still understand his decision. I think it's sad it came to this, but I understand both onog and Stephano. Tumba lost every ounce of what little respect I had for him however and I'll boycot casts by him in the future for sure. i'd agree with you if the tournament was scheduled for a surprise random time. it wasn't. this is just super unprofessional, and i expect professionalism in the things i choose to sink my time into (especially because i have so little free time these days).
So you think the same way with Tyler then?
So we can trow rocks at Tyler also?
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On January 30 2012 12:26 habbey wrote:Show nested quote +On January 30 2012 12:24 HappyChris wrote:
The funny thing is LiquidTyler also forfeits but he didnt say any reason whatsoever but nop the TL posters got np at all with it. However when Stephano does it hole TL goes abeshit..
I seen this for so long time now it got nothing todo with what stephano did. It got everything todo that he beats players so horrible that there fans gets angry and he make so much money and people just cant accept it.
jealousy thats the word..
you see no difference between forfeiting in the finals after playing the tourney vs forfeiting before the tourney starts?
No there is no difference for me its actually worse with tyler there was no excuse. Its 5 am in EU now do you think players can stay up forever?
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On January 30 2012 12:26 HappyChris wrote:Show nested quote +On January 30 2012 12:25 habbey wrote:On January 30 2012 12:22 Vond wrote:On January 30 2012 12:16 habbey wrote:i know its a bit late with this but... i lost a lot of respect for stephano today... its a sad day This whole situation is rather funny, personally I don't feel Stephano did anything wrong considering how late the tournament is being played for the europeans. On offline tournaments it's not an issue to play on US times, but for online tournies it's a different beast since that means finals etc are being played in the middle of the night for europeans. Sure, for Kas it's even later and he's still there and I'm personally awake even though it's past 4am, but I still understand his decision. I think it's sad it came to this, but I understand both onog and Stephano. Tumba lost every ounce of what little respect I had for him however and I'll boycot casts by him in the future for sure. i'd agree with you if the tournament was scheduled for a surprise random time. it wasn't. this is just super unprofessional, and i expect professionalism in the things i choose to sink my time into (especially because i have so little free time these days). So you think the same way with Tyler then? So we can trow rocks at Tyler also?
sure, but i don't think they are equal. what tyler did without a really good excuse is also quite unprofessional.
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On January 30 2012 12:26 habbey wrote:Show nested quote +On January 30 2012 12:24 HappyChris wrote:
The funny thing is LiquidTyler also forfeits but he didnt say any reason whatsoever but nop the TL posters got np at all with it. However when Stephano does it hole TL goes abeshit..
I seen this for so long time now it got nothing todo with what stephano did. It got everything todo that he beats players so horrible that there fans gets angry and he make so much money and people just cant accept it.
jealousy thats the word..
you see no difference between forfeiting in the finals after playing the tourney vs forfeiting before the tourney starts?
He lost his first game, then gave WO in the next two
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On January 30 2012 12:26 habbey wrote:Show nested quote +On January 30 2012 12:24 HappyChris wrote:
The funny thing is LiquidTyler also forfeits but he didnt say any reason whatsoever but nop the TL posters got np at all with it. However when Stephano does it hole TL goes abeshit..
I seen this for so long time now it got nothing todo with what stephano did. It got everything todo that he beats players so horrible that there fans gets angry and he make so much money and people just cant accept it.
jealousy thats the word..
you see no difference between forfeiting in the finals after playing the tourney vs forfeiting before the tourney starts?
If speaking of professionalism yourself, no there should be no difference. You can argue whether the ability to forfeit should be a principal player's right or they'd be forced to play for your pleasure with a gun held onto their head.
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Any else think it is weird Stephano chose a tournament that had ~$600 for winning versus $1500? strange...
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On January 30 2012 12:28 m0ck wrote:Show nested quote +On January 30 2012 12:26 habbey wrote:On January 30 2012 12:24 HappyChris wrote:
The funny thing is LiquidTyler also forfeits but he didnt say any reason whatsoever but nop the TL posters got np at all with it. However when Stephano does it hole TL goes abeshit..
I seen this for so long time now it got nothing todo with what stephano did. It got everything todo that he beats players so horrible that there fans gets angry and he make so much money and people just cant accept it.
jealousy thats the word..
you see no difference between forfeiting in the finals after playing the tourney vs forfeiting before the tourney starts? He lost his first game, then gave WO in the next two
i didn't know that, and at no point have i defended him. Still though, stephano is worse. he should realize forfeiting a finals is just a big middle finger to all fans and the hosts of the tournament.
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On January 30 2012 12:29 AngelusDeLetum wrote:
Any else think it is weird Stephano chose a tournament that had ~$600 for winning versus $1500? strange...
He probably didn't realise / wasn't told before participating he would finish the final at nearly 5am his time.
I'm glad Kas is going to take a 4-1 win here, he deserves it for staying up until nearly 6 in the morning.
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On January 30 2012 12:29 rotegirte wrote:Show nested quote +On January 30 2012 12:26 habbey wrote:On January 30 2012 12:24 HappyChris wrote:
The funny thing is LiquidTyler also forfeits but he didnt say any reason whatsoever but nop the TL posters got np at all with it. However when Stephano does it hole TL goes abeshit..
I seen this for so long time now it got nothing todo with what stephano did. It got everything todo that he beats players so horrible that there fans gets angry and he make so much money and people just cant accept it.
jealousy thats the word..
you see no difference between forfeiting in the finals after playing the tourney vs forfeiting before the tourney starts? If speaking of professionalism yourself, no there should be no difference. You can argue whether the ability to forfeit should be a principal player's right or they'd be forced to play for your pleasure with a gun held onto their head.
Yes, with respect to professionalism there is a difference... If in your business you blow off a minor meeting with a boss its different than blowing off the quarterly meeting with the board.
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On January 30 2012 12:27 HappyChris wrote:
No there is no difference for me its actually worse with tyler there was no excuse. Its 5 am in EU now do you think players can stay up forever?
Kas can. I wouldn't overplay the whole "mighty US dollar" thing - I think Kas is just more responsible and slept in today.
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On January 30 2012 12:30 habbey wrote:Show nested quote +On January 30 2012 12:28 m0ck wrote:On January 30 2012 12:26 habbey wrote:On January 30 2012 12:24 HappyChris wrote:
The funny thing is LiquidTyler also forfeits but he didnt say any reason whatsoever but nop the TL posters got np at all with it. However when Stephano does it hole TL goes abeshit..
I seen this for so long time now it got nothing todo with what stephano did. It got everything todo that he beats players so horrible that there fans gets angry and he make so much money and people just cant accept it.
jealousy thats the word..
you see no difference between forfeiting in the finals after playing the tourney vs forfeiting before the tourney starts? He lost his first game, then gave WO in the next two i didn't know that, and at no point have i defended him. Still though, stephano is worse. he should realize forfeiting a finals is just a big middle finger to all fans and the hosts of the tournament.
Hehe, How is it worse? Atleast stephano sayd he coulnt play anymore becuase it was so late? Tyler lost 0-2 and then just gives up his other matches??
Come on speak the truth you dont like Stephano becuase of one these reason:
"He beats you favorite player"
"He makes to much money"
"He only practise 3 hours a day he is lying"
"he will only play this year and then retire unfair towards the other players"
"He doesnt say gg but say gratz its gay"
pick one I heard all these before.
Raging over Stephano but defending Tyler is laughable at best and it tells me that the incident got nothing todo with the hate Stephano gets.
Alot of people just dont like him and since he dont lose much the hate has to go elswhere
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On January 30 2012 12:30 habbey wrote:Show nested quote +On January 30 2012 12:28 m0ck wrote:On January 30 2012 12:26 habbey wrote:On January 30 2012 12:24 HappyChris wrote:
The funny thing is LiquidTyler also forfeits but he didnt say any reason whatsoever but nop the TL posters got np at all with it. However when Stephano does it hole TL goes abeshit..
I seen this for so long time now it got nothing todo with what stephano did. It got everything todo that he beats players so horrible that there fans gets angry and he make so much money and people just cant accept it.
jealousy thats the word..
you see no difference between forfeiting in the finals after playing the tourney vs forfeiting before the tourney starts? He lost his first game, then gave WO in the next two i didn't know that, and at no point have i defended him. Still though, stephano is worse. he should realize forfeiting a finals is just a big middle finger to all fans and the hosts of the tournament.
I agree it was a bad decision, I'm just looking for a bit of consistency  The resonance of outrage had a tendency to go a bit overboard.
Anyways, thanks for a great tournament, it was great fun and we ended up with great matches, zerg or no zerg in the final.
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Why the HELL is Illusion in the finals if Stephano beat him? What am I looking at?
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On January 30 2012 12:24 HappyChris wrote:
The funny thing is LiquidTyler also forfeits but he didnt say any reason whatsoever but nop the TL posters got np at all with it. However when Stephano does it hole TL goes abeshit..
I seen this for so long time now it got nothing todo with what stephano did. It got everything todo that he beats players so horrible that there fans gets angry and he make so much money and people just cant accept it.
jealousy thats the word..
Second this. Exact same situation with Liquid Tyler, but no one seems to care, that despite voting him in, he quits 2 of his 3 matches.
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Oh he forfeited... lol
Looking forward to some TvT 50 minute goodness.
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On January 30 2012 12:36 HappyChris wrote:Show nested quote +On January 30 2012 12:30 habbey wrote:On January 30 2012 12:28 m0ck wrote:On January 30 2012 12:26 habbey wrote:On January 30 2012 12:24 HappyChris wrote:
The funny thing is LiquidTyler also forfeits but he didnt say any reason whatsoever but nop the TL posters got np at all with it. However when Stephano does it hole TL goes abeshit..
I seen this for so long time now it got nothing todo with what stephano did. It got everything todo that he beats players so horrible that there fans gets angry and he make so much money and people just cant accept it.
jealousy thats the word..
you see no difference between forfeiting in the finals after playing the tourney vs forfeiting before the tourney starts? He lost his first game, then gave WO in the next two i didn't know that, and at no point have i defended him. Still though, stephano is worse. he should realize forfeiting a finals is just a big middle finger to all fans and the hosts of the tournament. Hehe, How is it worse? Atleast stephano sayd he coulnt play anymore becuase it was so late? Tyler lost 0-2 and then just gives up his other matches?? Come on speak the truth you dont like Stephano becuase of one these reason: "He beats you favorite player" "He makes to much money" "He only practise 3 hours a day he is lying" "he will only play this year and then retire unfair towards the other players" "He doesnt say gg but say gratz its gay" pick one I heard all these before. Raging over Stephano but defending Tyler is laughable at best and it tells me that the incident got nothing todo with the hate Stephano gets. Alot of people just dont like him and since he dont lose much the hate has to go elswhere
So, again because you have seemed to misunderstand me, Tyler's actions = bad, stephano's actions = worse.
And not that it matters, but all my favorite players are korean (thats the stuff i usually watch). I literally don't have a player i have any feelings for, except for stephano. I used to like him quite a bit, and i probably will like him a bit in the future, but as i said, i lost respect for him. he is still a good player though.
edit: also just to make it clear, i actually dislike tyler (before today)
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On January 30 2012 12:36 HappyChris wrote:Show nested quote +On January 30 2012 12:30 habbey wrote:On January 30 2012 12:28 m0ck wrote:On January 30 2012 12:26 habbey wrote:On January 30 2012 12:24 HappyChris wrote:
The funny thing is LiquidTyler also forfeits but he didnt say any reason whatsoever but nop the TL posters got np at all with it. However when Stephano does it hole TL goes abeshit..
I seen this for so long time now it got nothing todo with what stephano did. It got everything todo that he beats players so horrible that there fans gets angry and he make so much money and people just cant accept it.
jealousy thats the word..
you see no difference between forfeiting in the finals after playing the tourney vs forfeiting before the tourney starts? He lost his first game, then gave WO in the next two i didn't know that, and at no point have i defended him. Still though, stephano is worse. he should realize forfeiting a finals is just a big middle finger to all fans and the hosts of the tournament. Hehe, How is it worse? Atleast stephano sayd he coulnt play anymore becuase it was so late? Tyler lost 0-2 and then just gives up his other matches?? Come on speak the truth you dont like Stephano becuase of one these reason: "He beats you favorite player" "He makes to much money" "He only practise 3 hours a day he is lying" "he will only play this year and then retire unfair towards the other players" "He doesnt say gg but say gratz its gay" pick one I heard all these before. Raging over Stephano but defending Tyler is laughable at best and it tells me that the incident got nothing todo with the hate Stephano gets. Alot of people just dont like him and since he dont lose much the hate has to go elswhere
You really need to calm down with the fanboyism. What Tyler did was unprofessional yes we can agree with that. However Stephano's was worse because he pretty much nulled the tournament and ruined it for everyone. He knew in advance the hours this tournament would run, but for some odd reason he didn't take that into account. I am really disappointed by his actions and hopefully he will understand that what he did was wrong.
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Hahaha Kas making Illusion look silly, talk about embarrased, so erm... yeah I've got eight bases, standard.
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