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hitpoint
United States1511 Posts
On January 30 2012 10:53 MrCash wrote: It is a derogatory, baseless and ignorant statement. As well as being incredibly unprofessional. I wouldn't call it baseless. | ||
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corpuscle
United States1967 Posts
On January 30 2012 10:57 Letall wrote: I suggest you reread your history http://www.militaryfactory.com/battles/french_military_victories.asp 168 wars (since 387 BC): 109-49-10 W-L-D LOL SURRENDERING PUSSIES I suggest you reread your history and this thread | ||
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Megabuster123
Canada1837 Posts
On January 30 2012 10:56 MrCash wrote: Peanuts, arguing over semantics? Wasting everyone's time, go read the dictionary, that's a more valuable use of time. The point isn't to decide which word is mots accurate describing the behavior, but whether it was wrong or not. It was very wrong. No, I'm not saying it was a good thing to say. I'm not saying it was professional. I'm just saying that it's not racism, because it's not racism...>_> | ||
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b0rt_
Norway931 Posts
On January 30 2012 10:58 IMStyle wrote: the french have been forfeiting and losing wars all history. This is nothing special guys, move on. can we just perma ban these people? | ||
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MrCash
United States1504 Posts
On January 30 2012 10:58 IMStyle wrote: the french have been forfeiting and losing wars all history. This is nothing special guys, move on. I suppose ignorance and stupidity is not limited to the United States. | ||
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WigglingSquid
5194 Posts
On January 30 2012 10:55 Kahlgar wrote: Stephano is perfectly within his rights to forfeit and while this is unfortunate for the whole barcraft thing, ONOG should have thought of that and invited NA players with the final starting at 3-4 AM euro time (or just casted replays like any other tournaments of this format) Invitationals largely ignore timezones, because they assume players will be able to organize their sleep schedule accordingly. Stephano mismanaged his time; too bad for him, but organizers are not to be wronged for demanding that a player abide to arrangements he willingly made. (I am not sure about the letter of their rules, but given that they are a barcraft I will justify an abuse to provide a final.) | ||
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Jakkerr
Netherlands2549 Posts
On January 30 2012 10:56 s4life wrote: Apparently he was tired.. the id got skillz but he's a primadona.. he'll never make it to the top. imagine Djokovich or Nadal doing that yesterday after playing close to 6 hours. That argument makes 0 sense. Tennis players forfeit minor tournaments all the time if they feel an injury is coming up or they aren't feeling well. If you want to make a real comparison it would be someone forfeiting the GSL finals vs ur comparison >.> | ||
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MrMongo
Germany64 Posts
On January 30 2012 10:57 corpuscle wrote: yeah this guy's right. http://www.militaryfactory.com/battles/french_military_victories.asp 168 wars (since 387 BC): 109-49-10 W-L-D LOL SURRENDERING PUSSIES Sadly I must tell you those are BATTLES not wars... just during WWII... apperently the french won 4 times and lost 2.... | ||
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Jacobs Ladder
United States1705 Posts
On January 30 2012 10:54 Xcobidoo wrote: Yet another one who has watched more series/films than reading history, congratulations. I don't think anyone actually believes those jokes, they're just the standard joke for france. Just like Americans being fat and ignorant, Irish are all alcoholic, and all dutch wear clogs. | ||
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MrCash
United States1504 Posts
On January 30 2012 10:59 Megabuster123 wrote: No, I'm not saying it was a good thing to say. I'm not saying it was professional. I'm just saying that it's not racism, because it's not racism...>_> My point is, as you continue to be oblivious to, is that that little sentiment is both silly and irrelevant. Taking away focus from the fact that it is still not okay, no matter what word you use to describe it. | ||
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andaylin
United States10830 Posts
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Kahlgar
411 Posts
On January 30 2012 10:58 Megabuster123 wrote: Stephano knew the restraints of the tournament. You can't blame ONOG when Stephano presumably agreed to their situation. When push came to shove though, he just said fuck it and that's all you can really say about that. even if he played, it would have been prolly sloppy/far from his A game and it wouldn't have made a good final for the barcraft makes no sense for ONOG to plan things like this either way | ||
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Xcobidoo
Sweden1871 Posts
On January 30 2012 10:54 Sub40APM wrote: Yea he is right. Give him his money, he earned it. The lesson for tournaments like this is is that people who make 70k a year in tournament winnings dont really care that much about some puny 3k tournament. So invite people accordingly. I agree with this, if this is meant to be a fun two days of SC2, don't make the gaps between players so vast. Even if flo/tyler/inc/destiny etc. are good, who would have predicted them in the finals? Better choices from Europe would have been TLO, Ret, White-Ra and the list goes on. They chose to invite Stephano and Kas because they were highly rated players but neglected the fact that those two are probably the best Europeans not in Korea and they will act accordingly. What Stephano did is kind of crappy but there is no doubt that if this was a regular tournament, both Kas and Stephano would have agreed to reschedule. In the end this is a barcraft thing and there must have been some sort of miscommunication between organizers and players regarding this since they treated it like an online cup/tournament. | ||
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KalWarkov
Germany4126 Posts
european online tournaments inviting americans are not at such terrible times. bad organization, cant blame stephano for forfeiting after such a day. ONOG found a way to make the whole outcome of the tournament meaningless with a decision both players wouldve agreed on. well done, every other online tournament wouldve simply resceduled. | ||
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andaylin
United States10830 Posts
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gruff
Sweden2276 Posts
On January 30 2012 10:53 MrCash wrote: It is a derogatory, baseless and ignorant statement. As well as being incredibly unprofessional. It was a joke based on stereotypes. Get some thicker skin... | ||
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Letall
Sweden384 Posts
On January 30 2012 10:59 corpuscle wrote: I suggest you reread your history and this thread Those arent even wars, and most of them are single battles won, here's an example of this "war" Operation Baliste - July 2006 The French Navy is successful in extracting nearly 15,000 people to safety, an operation brought about by the 2006 Lebanon War. Let me just link to a website and prove my point : / http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/text/france.html | ||
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Bagration
United States18282 Posts
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LittLeD
Sweden7973 Posts
ull do better next time! | ||
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Megabuster123
Canada1837 Posts
On January 30 2012 11:00 MrCash wrote: My point is, as you continue to be oblivious to, is that that little sentiment is both silly and irrelevant. Taking away focus from the fact that it is still not okay, no matter what word you use to describe it. You're point is irrelevant to me. I noticed that someone said something that wasn't true. And so I told him he was wrong. I'm not making a comment on the situation. I'm saying that derogatory statements towards French people isn't racism. | ||
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