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On January 30 2012 10:54 Neneu wrote:Show nested quote +On January 30 2012 10:52 rotegirte wrote:On January 30 2012 10:47 BloodThirsty wrote:On January 30 2012 10:44 MrMongo wrote:On January 30 2012 10:38 stratmatt wrote:On January 30 2012 10:36 MrMongo wrote:
I personally think it's unfair to put Stephano in the 4th spot. It doesn't really matter what he did or didnt in the final. He did manage to qualify for the final nevertheless and should be awarded with the pricemoney he earned.
And I have to clarify that I really don't like the move Stephano pulled. How is it unfair? He didnt earn 2nd yet...he would have had to lose to kas, who he decided not to play. He should get no money tbqh. That's simply not true. Winning the halffinale not only qualifies him for a chance at the first, it means he is at least 2nd. He won against somebody who had the same chance for 2nd OR 1st. You don't earn 2nd place by losing the final. What? No they don't have to give stephano anything if they choose to. It's their tournament and stephano signed to PLAY not to forfeit. If they don't have a finale cause stephano is too tired wah wah wah, then they lose viewers and look bad. Therefore if anything stephano actions harm ONOG reputation if they don't have a finals and give 2nd to stephano. If he didn't want to be up for the finals he shouldn't of even began to play the tournament Technically yes, since one can be disqualified at any time for any reason upon organizer judgment. However, it is still a gray area of proportionality, since all Stephano did was a regular forfeit- which in most established tournament structures is a legal move to take for a player. Can't remember seeing any other sport where a player forfeited the Grand Finals.
Still you won't get punished for forfeiting by principle
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On January 30 2012 10:53 MrCash wrote:Show nested quote +On January 30 2012 10:47 Megabuster123 wrote:On January 30 2012 10:45 Mackguy wrote:On January 30 2012 10:43 Jakkerr wrote:On January 30 2012 10:42 Mackguy wrote:
I am french, and I don't like being insulted over the stream, I am out of here so u surrendered to tumba? :o more racist comments here That's not racism....>_> France isn't a race of people... Jesus.. It is a derogatory, baseless and ignorant statement. As well as being incredibly unprofessional.
It's still not racist...>_>
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Catz needs to work on his multitask.
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On January 30 2012 10:54 BrassMonkey27 wrote:
Wait, Stephano actually forfeited the Grand Finals?
Apparently he was tired.. the id got skillz but he's a primadona.. he'll never make it to the top. imagine Djokovich or Nadal doing that yesterday after playing close to 6 hours.
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On January 30 2012 10:54 Xcobidoo wrote:Show nested quote +On January 30 2012 10:51 Letall wrote:On January 30 2012 10:49 Mackguy wrote:On January 30 2012 10:47 Megabuster123 wrote:On January 30 2012 10:45 Mackguy wrote:On January 30 2012 10:43 Jakkerr wrote:On January 30 2012 10:42 Mackguy wrote:
I am french, and I don't like being insulted over the stream, I am out of here so u surrendered to tumba? :o more racist comments here That's not racism....>_> France isn't a race of people... Jesus.. great, I rephrase, more xenophobic comments... Doubt anyone would fear someone who always surrenders. Yet another one who has watched more series/films than reading history, congratulations.
lol the joke is in the actual incorrect use of wordage. xenophobia is the fear of foreigners/strangers.
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On January 30 2012 10:55 Megabuster123 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 30 2012 10:53 MrCash wrote:On January 30 2012 10:47 Megabuster123 wrote:On January 30 2012 10:45 Mackguy wrote:On January 30 2012 10:43 Jakkerr wrote:On January 30 2012 10:42 Mackguy wrote:
I am french, and I don't like being insulted over the stream, I am out of here so u surrendered to tumba? :o more racist comments here That's not racism....>_> France isn't a race of people... Jesus.. It is a derogatory, baseless and ignorant statement. As well as being incredibly unprofessional. It's still not racist...>_>
Peanuts, arguing over semantics?
Wasting everyone's time, go read the dictionary, that's a more valuable use of time.
The point isn't to decide which word is mots accurate describing the behavior, but whether it was wrong or not.
It was very wrong.
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On January 30 2012 10:52 vilg wrote:
Also I must add, that moving him to 4th place is an incredibly weird move. Deny him the reschedule I think was wrong, considering the finals is against Kas who is even more tired and would for sure have accepted - but this can be argued - but you can't just take away his placing. He got second in this tournament, you can't just move standings around as you please. At least not without taking a serious credibility hit. This is more a series of showmatches than a tournament now.
Well, you can say considering the last 2 matches have yet to be played, he's unable to fulfill the obligations for any placing higher than 4th. It's pretty fair, and most importantly, keeps the tournament going on.
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Its certainly prejudiced but not racist.. people are so quick to throw that accusation around these days in North America and Europe..
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On January 30 2012 10:55 Megabuster123 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 30 2012 10:53 MrCash wrote:On January 30 2012 10:47 Megabuster123 wrote:On January 30 2012 10:45 Mackguy wrote:On January 30 2012 10:43 Jakkerr wrote:On January 30 2012 10:42 Mackguy wrote:
I am french, and I don't like being insulted over the stream, I am out of here so u surrendered to tumba? :o more racist comments here That's not racism....>_> France isn't a race of people... Jesus.. It is a derogatory, baseless and ignorant statement. As well as being incredibly unprofessional. It's still not racist...>_>
It's still funny aswell.
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On January 30 2012 10:44 andaylin wrote:Show nested quote +On January 30 2012 10:43 Jakkerr wrote:On January 30 2012 10:42 Mackguy wrote:
I am french, and I don't like being insulted over the stream, I am out of here so u surrendered to tumba? :o Lol WP.
yeah that's really funny etc
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On January 30 2012 10:54 corpuscle wrote:Show nested quote +On January 30 2012 10:52 vilg wrote:
Also I must add, that moving him to 4th place is an incredibly weird move. Deny him the reschedule I think was wrong, considering the finals is against Kas who is even more tired and would for sure have accepted - but this can be argued - but you can't just take away his placing. He got second in this tournament, you can't just move standings around as you please. At least not without taking a serious credibility hit. This is more a series of showmatches than a tournament now. it already was pretty much a series of showmatches; why do you think Flo, Tyler, CatZ, iNcontroL, etc. are playing in it? it's an invitational, the players that are there are ONLY there because the community wanted to see them play.
and yet nearly none of those games were casted, goes to show how well that tournament was planned
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On January 30 2012 10:55 rotegirte wrote:Show nested quote +On January 30 2012 10:54 Neneu wrote:On January 30 2012 10:52 rotegirte wrote:On January 30 2012 10:47 BloodThirsty wrote:On January 30 2012 10:44 MrMongo wrote:On January 30 2012 10:38 stratmatt wrote:On January 30 2012 10:36 MrMongo wrote:
I personally think it's unfair to put Stephano in the 4th spot. It doesn't really matter what he did or didnt in the final. He did manage to qualify for the final nevertheless and should be awarded with the pricemoney he earned.
And I have to clarify that I really don't like the move Stephano pulled. How is it unfair? He didnt earn 2nd yet...he would have had to lose to kas, who he decided not to play. He should get no money tbqh. That's simply not true. Winning the halffinale not only qualifies him for a chance at the first, it means he is at least 2nd. He won against somebody who had the same chance for 2nd OR 1st. You don't earn 2nd place by losing the final. What? No they don't have to give stephano anything if they choose to. It's their tournament and stephano signed to PLAY not to forfeit. If they don't have a finale cause stephano is too tired wah wah wah, then they lose viewers and look bad. Therefore if anything stephano actions harm ONOG reputation if they don't have a finals and give 2nd to stephano. If he didn't want to be up for the finals he shouldn't of even began to play the tournament Technically yes, since one can be disqualified at any time for any reason upon organizer judgment. However, it is still a gray area of proportionality, since all Stephano did was a regular forfeit- which in most established tournament structures is a legal move to take for a player. Can't remember seeing any other sport where a player forfeited the Grand Finals. Still you won't get punished for forfeiting by principle
Kinda doubt a sport athlete wouldn't be punished if he refused to play the grand finals because he didn't want to. In one way or another.
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On January 30 2012 10:54 Xcobidoo wrote:Show nested quote +On January 30 2012 10:51 Letall wrote:On January 30 2012 10:49 Mackguy wrote:On January 30 2012 10:47 Megabuster123 wrote:On January 30 2012 10:45 Mackguy wrote:On January 30 2012 10:43 Jakkerr wrote:On January 30 2012 10:42 Mackguy wrote:
I am french, and I don't like being insulted over the stream, I am out of here so u surrendered to tumba? :o more racist comments here That's not racism....>_> France isn't a race of people... Jesus.. great, I rephrase, more xenophobic comments... Doubt anyone would fear someone who always surrenders. Yet another one who has watched more series/films than reading history, congratulations.
I suggest you reread your history
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On January 30 2012 10:55 Kahlgar wrote:
Stephano is perfectly within his rights to forfeit and while this is unfortunate for the whole barcraft thing, ONOG should have thought of that and invited NA players with the final starting at 3-4 AM euro time (or just casted replays like any other tournaments of this format)
Stephano knew the restraints of the tournament. You can't blame ONOG when Stephano presumably agreed to their situation. When push came to shove though, he just said fuck it and that's all you can really say about that.
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On January 30 2012 10:55 Megabuster123 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 30 2012 10:53 MrCash wrote:On January 30 2012 10:47 Megabuster123 wrote:On January 30 2012 10:45 Mackguy wrote:On January 30 2012 10:43 Jakkerr wrote:On January 30 2012 10:42 Mackguy wrote:
I am french, and I don't like being insulted over the stream, I am out of here so u surrendered to tumba? :o more racist comments here That's not racism....>_> France isn't a race of people... Jesus.. It is a derogatory, baseless and ignorant statement. As well as being incredibly unprofessional. It's still not racist...>_>
So you are ignoring common use of language in order to nit-pick? It's like arguing "nigger" wouldn't be racist, jesus.
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On January 30 2012 10:52 vilg wrote:
Also I must add, that moving him to 4th place is an incredibly weird move. Deny him the reschedule I think was wrong, considering the finals is against Kas who is even more tired and would for sure have accepted - but this can be argued - but you can't just take away his placing. He got second in this tournament, you can't just move standings around as you please. At least not without taking a serious credibility hit. This is more a series of showmatches than a tournament now.
QFT
User was warned for this post
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the french have been forfeiting and losing wars all history. This is nothing special guys, move on.
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I can't believe so many people are getting this upset over a joke, get over yourselves.
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