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On January 29 2012 03:57 Asha` wrote:Is tomorrow's FIS lower bracket only?
Yes, LB Round 1. And I'm very sad.
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On January 29 2012 03:57 turdburgler wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2012 03:51 mvtaylor wrote:On January 29 2012 03:49 turdburgler wrote:On January 29 2012 03:40 iNcontroL wrote:On January 29 2012 03:13 turdburgler wrote:
really standard stuff from both flo and incontrol so far. a tiny mistake each side already, incontrol move commanding his stalker into the bunker and then flo slow to leave the bunker to kill it. apart from that just solid starts. havent had the results spoiled for myself so its quite exciting to see how she does in a "normal" tourney Was checking for cc... Very standard there being a bunker there kinda tells you theres a cc. if you had lost the stalker you would of just straight up died. no need to get so defensive. Did you not see SuperNoVa vs MC on Antiga Shipyard? SuperNoVa showed MC exactly that, a quick walled off main, a bunker at the ramp and MC didn't bother to check past it for a CC. SuperNoVa then proceeded to destroy MC with a 1 base all in. iNcontroL knows he's a better player so the longer the game goes on for the more chance he has to win rather than getting cheesed out early by an all in, no need to not know anything about starcraft. Here you go: http://www.gomtv.net/2012gsls1/vod/66755/?set=6&lang= different map different situation. and like i said, the information isnt worth it. if you lose your first unit to a bunker you have no idea whats coming, worse yet you have no idea how to find out, if flo hadnt been flo the stalker was 100% dead, then the terran can just cancel the cc and kill you because you cant see anything at all. Show nested quote +On January 29 2012 03:56 TheHova wrote:On January 29 2012 03:49 turdburgler wrote:On January 29 2012 03:40 iNcontroL wrote:On January 29 2012 03:13 turdburgler wrote:
really standard stuff from both flo and incontrol so far. a tiny mistake each side already, incontrol move commanding his stalker into the bunker and then flo slow to leave the bunker to kill it. apart from that just solid starts. havent had the results spoiled for myself so its quite exciting to see how she does in a "normal" tourney Was checking for cc... Very standard there being a bunker there kinda tells you theres a cc. if you had lost the stalker you would of just straight up died. a better terran would of never let that stalker leave, the information wasnt worth it. no need to get so defensive though. You're an idiot that has clearly never played high level TvP. He has to check for the CC because Terrans can often build a bunker to fake out a Protoss and make him think that he has expanded... Why even question his decision like you think you have a clue what you are talking about? And you don't instantly die if you lose it either. Wtf. like i said, if you kill 100% of someones army, how do they stop you from just killing them, you cant trade your entire army to see a cc. she could of cancelled it, she could of been building it inside her base to fly it down latter. incontrol got lucky that for no reason she built the cc in its place. thats no fault of his, its her fault for letting the stalker live. but there was no reason for any building to be there, the fact that there was was stupid of her. but he shouldnt of taken the risk.
He's the pro, you're not. Accept that he knows better than you and stop advising him on matters you are less informed about.
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im having a lot of problem with how bitter's pronouncing sase
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sigh... stream down again
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On January 29 2012 04:01 Willba wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2012 03:57 turdburgler wrote:On January 29 2012 03:51 mvtaylor wrote:On January 29 2012 03:49 turdburgler wrote:On January 29 2012 03:40 iNcontroL wrote:On January 29 2012 03:13 turdburgler wrote:
really standard stuff from both flo and incontrol so far. a tiny mistake each side already, incontrol move commanding his stalker into the bunker and then flo slow to leave the bunker to kill it. apart from that just solid starts. havent had the results spoiled for myself so its quite exciting to see how she does in a "normal" tourney Was checking for cc... Very standard there being a bunker there kinda tells you theres a cc. if you had lost the stalker you would of just straight up died. no need to get so defensive. Did you not see SuperNoVa vs MC on Antiga Shipyard? SuperNoVa showed MC exactly that, a quick walled off main, a bunker at the ramp and MC didn't bother to check past it for a CC. SuperNoVa then proceeded to destroy MC with a 1 base all in. iNcontroL knows he's a better player so the longer the game goes on for the more chance he has to win rather than getting cheesed out early by an all in, no need to not know anything about starcraft. Here you go: http://www.gomtv.net/2012gsls1/vod/66755/?set=6&lang= different map different situation. and like i said, the information isnt worth it. if you lose your first unit to a bunker you have no idea whats coming, worse yet you have no idea how to find out, if flo hadnt been flo the stalker was 100% dead, then the terran can just cancel the cc and kill you because you cant see anything at all. On January 29 2012 03:56 TheHova wrote:On January 29 2012 03:49 turdburgler wrote:On January 29 2012 03:40 iNcontroL wrote:On January 29 2012 03:13 turdburgler wrote:
really standard stuff from both flo and incontrol so far. a tiny mistake each side already, incontrol move commanding his stalker into the bunker and then flo slow to leave the bunker to kill it. apart from that just solid starts. havent had the results spoiled for myself so its quite exciting to see how she does in a "normal" tourney Was checking for cc... Very standard there being a bunker there kinda tells you theres a cc. if you had lost the stalker you would of just straight up died. a better terran would of never let that stalker leave, the information wasnt worth it. no need to get so defensive though. You're an idiot that has clearly never played high level TvP. He has to check for the CC because Terrans can often build a bunker to fake out a Protoss and make him think that he has expanded... Why even question his decision like you think you have a clue what you are talking about? And you don't instantly die if you lose it either. Wtf. like i said, if you kill 100% of someones army, how do they stop you from just killing them, you cant trade your entire army to see a cc. she could of cancelled it, she could of been building it inside her base to fly it down latter. incontrol got lucky that for no reason she built the cc in its place. thats no fault of his, its her fault for letting the stalker live. but there was no reason for any building to be there, the fact that there was was stupid of her. but he shouldnt of taken the risk. He's the pro, you're not. Accept that he knows better than you and stop advising him on matters you are less informed about.
cant argue with the post, so you argue with the poster. if incontrol thinks he knows better good for him. if he wants to explain why im wrong, good for me. if he doesnt thats cool too. but if all hes gonna drop is sarcastic remarks and not back them up, and all your gonna do is go "hes a pro shut up", sorry but i dont really feel like ive been proven wrong.
On January 29 2012 04:04 RJGooner wrote:
sigh... stream down again
stream fine for me, have you tried turning it off and on again.
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Looks like they're suffering from some first time jitters. Hope things get better as time go on.
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On January 29 2012 03:57 turdburgler wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2012 03:51 mvtaylor wrote:On January 29 2012 03:49 turdburgler wrote:On January 29 2012 03:40 iNcontroL wrote:On January 29 2012 03:13 turdburgler wrote:
really standard stuff from both flo and incontrol so far. a tiny mistake each side already, incontrol move commanding his stalker into the bunker and then flo slow to leave the bunker to kill it. apart from that just solid starts. havent had the results spoiled for myself so its quite exciting to see how she does in a "normal" tourney Was checking for cc... Very standard there being a bunker there kinda tells you theres a cc. if you had lost the stalker you would of just straight up died. no need to get so defensive. Did you not see SuperNoVa vs MC on Antiga Shipyard? SuperNoVa showed MC exactly that, a quick walled off main, a bunker at the ramp and MC didn't bother to check past it for a CC. SuperNoVa then proceeded to destroy MC with a 1 base all in. iNcontroL knows he's a better player so the longer the game goes on for the more chance he has to win rather than getting cheesed out early by an all in, no need to not know anything about starcraft. Here you go: http://www.gomtv.net/2012gsls1/vod/66755/?set=6&lang= different map different situation. and like i said, the information isnt worth it. if you lose your first unit to a bunker you have no idea whats coming, worse yet you have no idea how to find out, if flo hadnt been flo the stalker was 100% dead, then the terran can just cancel the cc and kill you because you cant see anything at all. Show nested quote +On January 29 2012 03:56 TheHova wrote:On January 29 2012 03:49 turdburgler wrote:On January 29 2012 03:40 iNcontroL wrote:On January 29 2012 03:13 turdburgler wrote:
really standard stuff from both flo and incontrol so far. a tiny mistake each side already, incontrol move commanding his stalker into the bunker and then flo slow to leave the bunker to kill it. apart from that just solid starts. havent had the results spoiled for myself so its quite exciting to see how she does in a "normal" tourney Was checking for cc... Very standard there being a bunker there kinda tells you theres a cc. if you had lost the stalker you would of just straight up died. a better terran would of never let that stalker leave, the information wasnt worth it. no need to get so defensive though. You're an idiot that has clearly never played high level TvP. He has to check for the CC because Terrans can often build a bunker to fake out a Protoss and make him think that he has expanded... Why even question his decision like you think you have a clue what you are talking about? And you don't instantly die if you lose it either. Wtf. like i said, if you kill 100% of someones army, how do they stop you from just killing them, you cant trade your entire army to see a cc. she could of cancelled it, she could of been building it inside her base to fly it down later. incontrol got lucky that for no reason she built the cc in its place. thats no fault of his, its her fault for letting the stalker live. but there was no reason for any building to be there, the fact that there was was stupid of her. but he shouldnt of taken the risk.
Lol... Do you honestly think you know better than him?
What rank are you ? I'm curious.
And could of?
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On January 29 2012 04:05 turdburgler wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2012 04:01 Willba wrote:On January 29 2012 03:57 turdburgler wrote:On January 29 2012 03:51 mvtaylor wrote:On January 29 2012 03:49 turdburgler wrote:On January 29 2012 03:40 iNcontroL wrote:On January 29 2012 03:13 turdburgler wrote:
really standard stuff from both flo and incontrol so far. a tiny mistake each side already, incontrol move commanding his stalker into the bunker and then flo slow to leave the bunker to kill it. apart from that just solid starts. havent had the results spoiled for myself so its quite exciting to see how she does in a "normal" tourney Was checking for cc... Very standard there being a bunker there kinda tells you theres a cc. if you had lost the stalker you would of just straight up died. no need to get so defensive. Did you not see SuperNoVa vs MC on Antiga Shipyard? SuperNoVa showed MC exactly that, a quick walled off main, a bunker at the ramp and MC didn't bother to check past it for a CC. SuperNoVa then proceeded to destroy MC with a 1 base all in. iNcontroL knows he's a better player so the longer the game goes on for the more chance he has to win rather than getting cheesed out early by an all in, no need to not know anything about starcraft. Here you go: http://www.gomtv.net/2012gsls1/vod/66755/?set=6&lang= different map different situation. and like i said, the information isnt worth it. if you lose your first unit to a bunker you have no idea whats coming, worse yet you have no idea how to find out, if flo hadnt been flo the stalker was 100% dead, then the terran can just cancel the cc and kill you because you cant see anything at all. On January 29 2012 03:56 TheHova wrote:On January 29 2012 03:49 turdburgler wrote:On January 29 2012 03:40 iNcontroL wrote:On January 29 2012 03:13 turdburgler wrote:
really standard stuff from both flo and incontrol so far. a tiny mistake each side already, incontrol move commanding his stalker into the bunker and then flo slow to leave the bunker to kill it. apart from that just solid starts. havent had the results spoiled for myself so its quite exciting to see how she does in a "normal" tourney Was checking for cc... Very standard there being a bunker there kinda tells you theres a cc. if you had lost the stalker you would of just straight up died. a better terran would of never let that stalker leave, the information wasnt worth it. no need to get so defensive though. You're an idiot that has clearly never played high level TvP. He has to check for the CC because Terrans can often build a bunker to fake out a Protoss and make him think that he has expanded... Why even question his decision like you think you have a clue what you are talking about? And you don't instantly die if you lose it either. Wtf. like i said, if you kill 100% of someones army, how do they stop you from just killing them, you cant trade your entire army to see a cc. she could of cancelled it, she could of been building it inside her base to fly it down latter. incontrol got lucky that for no reason she built the cc in its place. thats no fault of his, its her fault for letting the stalker live. but there was no reason for any building to be there, the fact that there was was stupid of her. but he shouldnt of taken the risk. He's the pro, you're not. Accept that he knows better than you and stop advising him on matters you are less informed about. cant argue with the post, so you argue with the poster. if incontrol thinks he knows better good for him. if he wants to explain why im wrong, good for me. if he doesnt thats cool too. but if all hes gonna drop is sarcastic remarks and not back them up, and all your gonna do is go "hes a pro shut up", sorry but i dont really feel like ive been proven wrong. stream fine for me, have you tried turning it off and on again.
Well you can live in ignorance as much as you want but at the end of the day, you're still wrong.
Care to play PvT right now? I want some insight into your vast PvT knowledge. I'm a mere high masters player myself.
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please remember guys this is the first time ONOG has run an online event like this. should be considerate... They are really awesome to work with and have done quite a bit for the community. 
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On January 29 2012 04:06 TheHova wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2012 03:57 turdburgler wrote:On January 29 2012 03:51 mvtaylor wrote:On January 29 2012 03:49 turdburgler wrote:On January 29 2012 03:40 iNcontroL wrote:On January 29 2012 03:13 turdburgler wrote:
really standard stuff from both flo and incontrol so far. a tiny mistake each side already, incontrol move commanding his stalker into the bunker and then flo slow to leave the bunker to kill it. apart from that just solid starts. havent had the results spoiled for myself so its quite exciting to see how she does in a "normal" tourney Was checking for cc... Very standard there being a bunker there kinda tells you theres a cc. if you had lost the stalker you would of just straight up died. no need to get so defensive. Did you not see SuperNoVa vs MC on Antiga Shipyard? SuperNoVa showed MC exactly that, a quick walled off main, a bunker at the ramp and MC didn't bother to check past it for a CC. SuperNoVa then proceeded to destroy MC with a 1 base all in. iNcontroL knows he's a better player so the longer the game goes on for the more chance he has to win rather than getting cheesed out early by an all in, no need to not know anything about starcraft. Here you go: http://www.gomtv.net/2012gsls1/vod/66755/?set=6&lang= different map different situation. and like i said, the information isnt worth it. if you lose your first unit to a bunker you have no idea whats coming, worse yet you have no idea how to find out, if flo hadnt been flo the stalker was 100% dead, then the terran can just cancel the cc and kill you because you cant see anything at all. On January 29 2012 03:56 TheHova wrote:On January 29 2012 03:49 turdburgler wrote:On January 29 2012 03:40 iNcontroL wrote:On January 29 2012 03:13 turdburgler wrote:
really standard stuff from both flo and incontrol so far. a tiny mistake each side already, incontrol move commanding his stalker into the bunker and then flo slow to leave the bunker to kill it. apart from that just solid starts. havent had the results spoiled for myself so its quite exciting to see how she does in a "normal" tourney Was checking for cc... Very standard there being a bunker there kinda tells you theres a cc. if you had lost the stalker you would of just straight up died. a better terran would of never let that stalker leave, the information wasnt worth it. no need to get so defensive though. You're an idiot that has clearly never played high level TvP. He has to check for the CC because Terrans can often build a bunker to fake out a Protoss and make him think that he has expanded... Why even question his decision like you think you have a clue what you are talking about? And you don't instantly die if you lose it either. Wtf. like i said, if you kill 100% of someones army, how do they stop you from just killing them, you cant trade your entire army to see a cc. she could of cancelled it, she could of been building it inside her base to fly it down later. incontrol got lucky that for no reason she built the cc in its place. thats no fault of his, its her fault for letting the stalker live. but there was no reason for any building to be there, the fact that there was was stupid of her. but he shouldnt of taken the risk. Lol... Do you honestly think you know better than him? What rank are you ? I'm curious. And could of?
it doesnt matter what i think, ive posted reasoned replies and you've posted "what rank are you?", if you know more than me then feel free to show that rather than arguing like a child.
On January 29 2012 04:07 TheHova wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2012 04:05 turdburgler wrote:On January 29 2012 04:01 Willba wrote:On January 29 2012 03:57 turdburgler wrote:On January 29 2012 03:51 mvtaylor wrote:On January 29 2012 03:49 turdburgler wrote:On January 29 2012 03:40 iNcontroL wrote:On January 29 2012 03:13 turdburgler wrote:
really standard stuff from both flo and incontrol so far. a tiny mistake each side already, incontrol move commanding his stalker into the bunker and then flo slow to leave the bunker to kill it. apart from that just solid starts. havent had the results spoiled for myself so its quite exciting to see how she does in a "normal" tourney Was checking for cc... Very standard there being a bunker there kinda tells you theres a cc. if you had lost the stalker you would of just straight up died. no need to get so defensive. Did you not see SuperNoVa vs MC on Antiga Shipyard? SuperNoVa showed MC exactly that, a quick walled off main, a bunker at the ramp and MC didn't bother to check past it for a CC. SuperNoVa then proceeded to destroy MC with a 1 base all in. iNcontroL knows he's a better player so the longer the game goes on for the more chance he has to win rather than getting cheesed out early by an all in, no need to not know anything about starcraft. Here you go: http://www.gomtv.net/2012gsls1/vod/66755/?set=6&lang= different map different situation. and like i said, the information isnt worth it. if you lose your first unit to a bunker you have no idea whats coming, worse yet you have no idea how to find out, if flo hadnt been flo the stalker was 100% dead, then the terran can just cancel the cc and kill you because you cant see anything at all. On January 29 2012 03:56 TheHova wrote:On January 29 2012 03:49 turdburgler wrote:On January 29 2012 03:40 iNcontroL wrote:On January 29 2012 03:13 turdburgler wrote:
really standard stuff from both flo and incontrol so far. a tiny mistake each side already, incontrol move commanding his stalker into the bunker and then flo slow to leave the bunker to kill it. apart from that just solid starts. havent had the results spoiled for myself so its quite exciting to see how she does in a "normal" tourney Was checking for cc... Very standard there being a bunker there kinda tells you theres a cc. if you had lost the stalker you would of just straight up died. a better terran would of never let that stalker leave, the information wasnt worth it. no need to get so defensive though. You're an idiot that has clearly never played high level TvP. He has to check for the CC because Terrans can often build a bunker to fake out a Protoss and make him think that he has expanded... Why even question his decision like you think you have a clue what you are talking about? And you don't instantly die if you lose it either. Wtf. like i said, if you kill 100% of someones army, how do they stop you from just killing them, you cant trade your entire army to see a cc. she could of cancelled it, she could of been building it inside her base to fly it down latter. incontrol got lucky that for no reason she built the cc in its place. thats no fault of his, its her fault for letting the stalker live. but there was no reason for any building to be there, the fact that there was was stupid of her. but he shouldnt of taken the risk. He's the pro, you're not. Accept that he knows better than you and stop advising him on matters you are less informed about. cant argue with the post, so you argue with the poster. if incontrol thinks he knows better good for him. if he wants to explain why im wrong, good for me. if he doesnt thats cool too. but if all hes gonna drop is sarcastic remarks and not back them up, and all your gonna do is go "hes a pro shut up", sorry but i dont really feel like ive been proven wrong. On January 29 2012 04:04 RJGooner wrote:
sigh... stream down again stream fine for me, have you tried turning it off and on again. Well you can live in ignorance as much as you want but at the end of the day, you're still wrong. Care to play PvT right now? I want some insight into your vast PvT knowledge. I'm a mere high masters player myself.
i think you take discussions of choices made in streamed games far too personally.
On January 29 2012 04:08 mvtaylor wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2012 03:57 turdburgler wrote:On January 29 2012 03:51 mvtaylor wrote:On January 29 2012 03:49 turdburgler wrote:On January 29 2012 03:40 iNcontroL wrote:On January 29 2012 03:13 turdburgler wrote:
really standard stuff from both flo and incontrol so far. a tiny mistake each side already, incontrol move commanding his stalker into the bunker and then flo slow to leave the bunker to kill it. apart from that just solid starts. havent had the results spoiled for myself so its quite exciting to see how she does in a "normal" tourney Was checking for cc... Very standard there being a bunker there kinda tells you theres a cc. if you had lost the stalker you would of just straight up died. no need to get so defensive. Did you not see SuperNoVa vs MC on Antiga Shipyard? SuperNoVa showed MC exactly that, a quick walled off main, a bunker at the ramp and MC didn't bother to check past it for a CC. SuperNoVa then proceeded to destroy MC with a 1 base all in. iNcontroL knows he's a better player so the longer the game goes on for the more chance he has to win rather than getting cheesed out early by an all in, no need to not know anything about starcraft. Here you go: http://www.gomtv.net/2012gsls1/vod/66755/?set=6&lang= different map different situation. and like i said, the information isnt worth it. if you lose your first unit to a bunker you have no idea whats coming, worse yet you have no idea how to find out, if flo hadnt been flo the stalker was 100% dead, then the terran can just cancel the cc and kill you because you cant see anything at all. On January 29 2012 03:56 TheHova wrote:On January 29 2012 03:49 turdburgler wrote:On January 29 2012 03:40 iNcontroL wrote:On January 29 2012 03:13 turdburgler wrote:
really standard stuff from both flo and incontrol so far. a tiny mistake each side already, incontrol move commanding his stalker into the bunker and then flo slow to leave the bunker to kill it. apart from that just solid starts. havent had the results spoiled for myself so its quite exciting to see how she does in a "normal" tourney Was checking for cc... Very standard there being a bunker there kinda tells you theres a cc. if you had lost the stalker you would of just straight up died. a better terran would of never let that stalker leave, the information wasnt worth it. no need to get so defensive though. You're an idiot that has clearly never played high level TvP. He has to check for the CC because Terrans can often build a bunker to fake out a Protoss and make him think that he has expanded... Why even question his decision like you think you have a clue what you are talking about? And you don't instantly die if you lose it either. Wtf. like i said, if you kill 100% of someones army, how do they stop you from just killing them, you cant trade your entire army to see a cc. she could of cancelled it, she could of been building it inside her base to fly it down later. incontrol got lucky that for no reason she built the cc in its place. thats no fault of his, its her fault for letting the stalker live. but there was no reason for any building to be there, the fact that there was was stupid of her. but he shouldnt of taken the risk. What the hell are you on about?! As a Terran then the ability to build the CC directly at the natural rather in base and float it down means you're income gets up faster, there is a reason to build it there! He got to see the CC and even if had it been cancelled how would that have been bad for him? A 90% constructed cc and bunker salvage means that in 65 seconds she could have built... 3 more rax so in... a minute and a half she'd have 3 extra marines. So... TWO MINUTES after she cancelled a 90% cc and salvaged a bunker 3 more marines would be over at iNcontroL's base, yeah, sounds like game over to me! Also he already had a sentry built before the stalker "could" have died so he'd have lost two army supply, warp gate was over 50% done and was shortly followed by two more gates and a robo bay. I would LOVE to know what league you are in and what race you play.
hiding knowledge is far more important than 50 minerals, if you can hide what your doing you should always do so. incontrol would probably be the first person to tell you a single sentry, not the worlds greatest defence.
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On January 29 2012 03:57 turdburgler wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2012 03:51 mvtaylor wrote:On January 29 2012 03:49 turdburgler wrote:On January 29 2012 03:40 iNcontroL wrote:On January 29 2012 03:13 turdburgler wrote:
really standard stuff from both flo and incontrol so far. a tiny mistake each side already, incontrol move commanding his stalker into the bunker and then flo slow to leave the bunker to kill it. apart from that just solid starts. havent had the results spoiled for myself so its quite exciting to see how she does in a "normal" tourney Was checking for cc... Very standard there being a bunker there kinda tells you theres a cc. if you had lost the stalker you would of just straight up died. no need to get so defensive. Did you not see SuperNoVa vs MC on Antiga Shipyard? SuperNoVa showed MC exactly that, a quick walled off main, a bunker at the ramp and MC didn't bother to check past it for a CC. SuperNoVa then proceeded to destroy MC with a 1 base all in. iNcontroL knows he's a better player so the longer the game goes on for the more chance he has to win rather than getting cheesed out early by an all in, no need to not know anything about starcraft. Here you go: http://www.gomtv.net/2012gsls1/vod/66755/?set=6&lang= different map different situation. and like i said, the information isnt worth it. if you lose your first unit to a bunker you have no idea whats coming, worse yet you have no idea how to find out, if flo hadnt been flo the stalker was 100% dead, then the terran can just cancel the cc and kill you because you cant see anything at all. Show nested quote +On January 29 2012 03:56 TheHova wrote:On January 29 2012 03:49 turdburgler wrote:On January 29 2012 03:40 iNcontroL wrote:On January 29 2012 03:13 turdburgler wrote:
really standard stuff from both flo and incontrol so far. a tiny mistake each side already, incontrol move commanding his stalker into the bunker and then flo slow to leave the bunker to kill it. apart from that just solid starts. havent had the results spoiled for myself so its quite exciting to see how she does in a "normal" tourney Was checking for cc... Very standard there being a bunker there kinda tells you theres a cc. if you had lost the stalker you would of just straight up died. a better terran would of never let that stalker leave, the information wasnt worth it. no need to get so defensive though. You're an idiot that has clearly never played high level TvP. He has to check for the CC because Terrans can often build a bunker to fake out a Protoss and make him think that he has expanded... Why even question his decision like you think you have a clue what you are talking about? And you don't instantly die if you lose it either. Wtf. like i said, if you kill 100% of someones army, how do they stop you from just killing them, you cant trade your entire army to see a cc. she could of cancelled it, she could of been building it inside her base to fly it down later. incontrol got lucky that for no reason she built the cc in its place. thats no fault of his, its her fault for letting the stalker live. but there was no reason for any building to be there, the fact that there was was stupid of her. but he shouldnt of taken the risk.
What the hell are you on about?!
As a Terran then the ability to build the CC directly at the natural rather in base and float it down means you're income gets up faster, there is a reason to build it there!
He got to see the CC and even if had it been cancelled how would that have been bad for him? A 90% constructed cc and bunker salvage means that in 65 seconds she could have built... 3 more rax so in... a minute and a half she'd have 3 extra marines.
So... TWO MINUTES after she cancelled a 90% cc and salvaged a bunker 3 more marines would be over at iNcontroL's base, yeah, sounds like game over to me!
Also he already had a sentry built before the stalker "could" have died so he'd have lost two army supply, warp gate was over 50% done and was shortly followed by two more gates and a robo bay. I would LOVE to know what league you are in and what race you play.
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On January 29 2012 04:08 turdburgler wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2012 04:06 TheHova wrote:On January 29 2012 03:57 turdburgler wrote:On January 29 2012 03:51 mvtaylor wrote:On January 29 2012 03:49 turdburgler wrote:On January 29 2012 03:40 iNcontroL wrote:On January 29 2012 03:13 turdburgler wrote:
really standard stuff from both flo and incontrol so far. a tiny mistake each side already, incontrol move commanding his stalker into the bunker and then flo slow to leave the bunker to kill it. apart from that just solid starts. havent had the results spoiled for myself so its quite exciting to see how she does in a "normal" tourney Was checking for cc... Very standard there being a bunker there kinda tells you theres a cc. if you had lost the stalker you would of just straight up died. no need to get so defensive. Did you not see SuperNoVa vs MC on Antiga Shipyard? SuperNoVa showed MC exactly that, a quick walled off main, a bunker at the ramp and MC didn't bother to check past it for a CC. SuperNoVa then proceeded to destroy MC with a 1 base all in. iNcontroL knows he's a better player so the longer the game goes on for the more chance he has to win rather than getting cheesed out early by an all in, no need to not know anything about starcraft. Here you go: http://www.gomtv.net/2012gsls1/vod/66755/?set=6&lang= different map different situation. and like i said, the information isnt worth it. if you lose your first unit to a bunker you have no idea whats coming, worse yet you have no idea how to find out, if flo hadnt been flo the stalker was 100% dead, then the terran can just cancel the cc and kill you because you cant see anything at all. On January 29 2012 03:56 TheHova wrote:On January 29 2012 03:49 turdburgler wrote:On January 29 2012 03:40 iNcontroL wrote:On January 29 2012 03:13 turdburgler wrote:
really standard stuff from both flo and incontrol so far. a tiny mistake each side already, incontrol move commanding his stalker into the bunker and then flo slow to leave the bunker to kill it. apart from that just solid starts. havent had the results spoiled for myself so its quite exciting to see how she does in a "normal" tourney Was checking for cc... Very standard there being a bunker there kinda tells you theres a cc. if you had lost the stalker you would of just straight up died. a better terran would of never let that stalker leave, the information wasnt worth it. no need to get so defensive though. You're an idiot that has clearly never played high level TvP. He has to check for the CC because Terrans can often build a bunker to fake out a Protoss and make him think that he has expanded... Why even question his decision like you think you have a clue what you are talking about? And you don't instantly die if you lose it either. Wtf. like i said, if you kill 100% of someones army, how do they stop you from just killing them, you cant trade your entire army to see a cc. she could of cancelled it, she could of been building it inside her base to fly it down later. incontrol got lucky that for no reason she built the cc in its place. thats no fault of his, its her fault for letting the stalker live. but there was no reason for any building to be there, the fact that there was was stupid of her. but he shouldnt of taken the risk. Lol... Do you honestly think you know better than him? What rank are you ? I'm curious. And could of? it doesnt matter what i think, ive posted reasoned replies and you've posted "what rank are you?", if you know more than me then feel free to show that rather than arguing like a child. Show nested quote +On January 29 2012 04:07 TheHova wrote:On January 29 2012 04:05 turdburgler wrote:On January 29 2012 04:01 Willba wrote:On January 29 2012 03:57 turdburgler wrote:On January 29 2012 03:51 mvtaylor wrote:On January 29 2012 03:49 turdburgler wrote:On January 29 2012 03:40 iNcontroL wrote:On January 29 2012 03:13 turdburgler wrote:
really standard stuff from both flo and incontrol so far. a tiny mistake each side already, incontrol move commanding his stalker into the bunker and then flo slow to leave the bunker to kill it. apart from that just solid starts. havent had the results spoiled for myself so its quite exciting to see how she does in a "normal" tourney Was checking for cc... Very standard there being a bunker there kinda tells you theres a cc. if you had lost the stalker you would of just straight up died. no need to get so defensive. Did you not see SuperNoVa vs MC on Antiga Shipyard? SuperNoVa showed MC exactly that, a quick walled off main, a bunker at the ramp and MC didn't bother to check past it for a CC. SuperNoVa then proceeded to destroy MC with a 1 base all in. iNcontroL knows he's a better player so the longer the game goes on for the more chance he has to win rather than getting cheesed out early by an all in, no need to not know anything about starcraft. Here you go: http://www.gomtv.net/2012gsls1/vod/66755/?set=6&lang= different map different situation. and like i said, the information isnt worth it. if you lose your first unit to a bunker you have no idea whats coming, worse yet you have no idea how to find out, if flo hadnt been flo the stalker was 100% dead, then the terran can just cancel the cc and kill you because you cant see anything at all. On January 29 2012 03:56 TheHova wrote:On January 29 2012 03:49 turdburgler wrote:On January 29 2012 03:40 iNcontroL wrote:On January 29 2012 03:13 turdburgler wrote:
really standard stuff from both flo and incontrol so far. a tiny mistake each side already, incontrol move commanding his stalker into the bunker and then flo slow to leave the bunker to kill it. apart from that just solid starts. havent had the results spoiled for myself so its quite exciting to see how she does in a "normal" tourney Was checking for cc... Very standard there being a bunker there kinda tells you theres a cc. if you had lost the stalker you would of just straight up died. a better terran would of never let that stalker leave, the information wasnt worth it. no need to get so defensive though. You're an idiot that has clearly never played high level TvP. He has to check for the CC because Terrans can often build a bunker to fake out a Protoss and make him think that he has expanded... Why even question his decision like you think you have a clue what you are talking about? And you don't instantly die if you lose it either. Wtf. like i said, if you kill 100% of someones army, how do they stop you from just killing them, you cant trade your entire army to see a cc. she could of cancelled it, she could of been building it inside her base to fly it down latter. incontrol got lucky that for no reason she built the cc in its place. thats no fault of his, its her fault for letting the stalker live. but there was no reason for any building to be there, the fact that there was was stupid of her. but he shouldnt of taken the risk. He's the pro, you're not. Accept that he knows better than you and stop advising him on matters you are less informed about. cant argue with the post, so you argue with the poster. if incontrol thinks he knows better good for him. if he wants to explain why im wrong, good for me. if he doesnt thats cool too. but if all hes gonna drop is sarcastic remarks and not back them up, and all your gonna do is go "hes a pro shut up", sorry but i dont really feel like ive been proven wrong. On January 29 2012 04:04 RJGooner wrote:
sigh... stream down again stream fine for me, have you tried turning it off and on again. Well you can live in ignorance as much as you want but at the end of the day, you're still wrong. Care to play PvT right now? I want some insight into your vast PvT knowledge. I'm a mere high masters player myself. i think you take discussions of choices made in streamed games far too personally.
No, i just call out bullshit when i see it. It makes absolutely no difference to me personally what you think.
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On January 29 2012 04:02 RJGooner wrote:
im having a lot of problem with how bitter's pronouncing sase
Why? He is pronouncing it right...
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how can one get access to HD stream? Is there a ticket to buy or sth.?!
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wooooooooooooooooooooo saseeeeeeee
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Turdburgler you have no idea what you're talking about. I'm not going to argue with stupidity though. The scouting info is simply worth it. Plus you won't always lose the stalker.
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You're all wrong, the thing you're supposed to do is to send one stalker to the bunker while mineral walking the probe in the terran base and let the stalker soak up damage so the probe gets in.
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