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[IPL] Fight Club 6: GanZi vs. MaNa - Page 3

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Kahlgar
Profile Joined June 2011
411 Posts
January 11 2012 23:50 GMT
#41
On January 12 2012 04:26 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2012 04:16 Kahlgar wrote:
Ganzi will prolly win but i voted Mana anyway cuz he is awesome


That's not how "Who Will Win" polls work >.<

That's probably why Mana is winning in this poll lol.

Best of luck to both players


naaah thats definately how it works

MANA! MANA!
JerKy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)3013 Posts
January 11 2012 23:52 GMT
#42
this should be interesting
Gogo Ganzi, looking forward to some gg's
You can type "StarCraft" with just your left hand.
yoshi245
Profile Joined May 2011
United States2974 Posts
January 11 2012 23:59 GMT
#43
Mana has a good chance. He beat Kas who was on a tear as of late. And I don't think Ganzi's TvP is that great either.
"Numbers speak about the past, not the present." -Thorzain
kochanfe
Profile Joined July 2011
Micronesia1338 Posts
January 12 2012 01:12 GMT
#44
On January 12 2012 05:24 TotalBiscuit wrote:
All my internet points on MaNa. Don't fuck with MaNa's TvP


Lol, u mean PvT
"The flame that burns twice as bright burns half as long." - Lao Tzu
~Maverick~
Profile Joined July 2010
United States234 Posts
January 12 2012 04:34 GMT
#45
MaNa will win 5-1 or 5-2
#roadto5kmmr
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
January 12 2012 04:55 GMT
#46
Haha, looks like IPL doesn't like the extreme korean domination, so it snipes Ganzi with the best foreigner PvT
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OceanLab
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
France505 Posts
January 12 2012 05:09 GMT
#47
Mana doesnt lose. It's a fact known to anyone who ever watched his stream
Liquid through and through
red4ce
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States7313 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-12 05:13:28
January 12 2012 05:12 GMT
#48
Stomp him Mana! I've had just about as much SlayerS as I can handle in IPL.
RPR_Tempest
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Australia7799 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-12 05:13:43
January 12 2012 05:13 GMT
#49
MaNa has really, really good PvT.

GanZi is fucking shit against Protoss. So is Ryung. So is Clide. So is BoxeR. MMA seems to have improved a bit but he still has a pretty bad record.

SlayerS Terrans don't beat Protoss. MaNa will beat GanZi in fairly one-sided fashion.

It would actually be a tremendous upset for GanZi to win here.
Soundwave, Zerg player from Canberra, Australia. @SoundwaveSC
Seraphone
Profile Joined January 2012
United Kingdom1219 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-12 05:15:14
January 12 2012 05:15 GMT
#50
On January 12 2012 14:13 RPR_Tempest wrote:
MaNa has really, really good PvT.

GanZi is fucking shit against Protoss. So is Ryung. So is Clide. So is BoxeR. MMA seems to have improved a bit but he still has a pretty bad record.

SlayerS Terrans don't beat Protoss.
MaNa will beat GanZi in fairly one-sided fashion.

It would actually be a tremendous upset for GanZi to win here.


Agree with the bold but you forgot something important. Ganzi is from South Korea, Mana is not. So Ganzi will still probably win.
Mvp, Nestea, Leenock, MC, Oz, Jjakji!
RPR_Tempest
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Australia7799 Posts
January 12 2012 05:16 GMT
#51
On January 12 2012 14:15 Seraphone wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2012 14:13 RPR_Tempest wrote:
MaNa has really, really good PvT.

GanZi is fucking shit against Protoss. So is Ryung. So is Clide. So is BoxeR. MMA seems to have improved a bit but he still has a pretty bad record.

SlayerS Terrans don't beat Protoss.
MaNa will beat GanZi in fairly one-sided fashion.

It would actually be a tremendous upset for GanZi to win here.


Agree with the bold but you forgot something important. Ganzi is from South Korea, Mana is not. So Ganzi will still probably win.

Tell that to Gatored.
Soundwave, Zerg player from Canberra, Australia. @SoundwaveSC
RaiKageRyu
Profile Joined August 2009
Canada4773 Posts
January 12 2012 05:23 GMT
#52
I would say Mana is actually the favorite in this one. IGN finally found someone that can beat Ganzi.
Someone call down the Thunder?
Seraphone
Profile Joined January 2012
United Kingdom1219 Posts
January 12 2012 05:31 GMT
#53
On January 12 2012 14:16 RPR_Tempest wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2012 14:15 Seraphone wrote:
On January 12 2012 14:13 RPR_Tempest wrote:
MaNa has really, really good PvT.

GanZi is fucking shit against Protoss. So is Ryung. So is Clide. So is BoxeR. MMA seems to have improved a bit but he still has a pretty bad record.

SlayerS Terrans don't beat Protoss.
MaNa will beat GanZi in fairly one-sided fashion.

It would actually be a tremendous upset for GanZi to win here.


Agree with the bold but you forgot something important. Ganzi is from South Korea, Mana is not. So Ganzi will still probably win.

Tell that to Gatored.


I don't know why people make bad posts like this bringing up the one piece of evidence they have when there's so much evidence to the contrary.
Mvp, Nestea, Leenock, MC, Oz, Jjakji!
BronzeKnee
Profile Joined March 2011
United States5225 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-12 05:53:39
January 12 2012 05:40 GMT
#54
This is going to be awesome. I've watched a considerable amount of both players (especially Mana), and if Mana shows up and plays well, I think he takes his one. Problem is, he is quite inconsistent.
RPR_Tempest
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Australia7799 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-12 06:11:13
January 12 2012 06:05 GMT
#55
On January 12 2012 14:31 Seraphone wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2012 14:16 RPR_Tempest wrote:
On January 12 2012 14:15 Seraphone wrote:
On January 12 2012 14:13 RPR_Tempest wrote:
MaNa has really, really good PvT.

GanZi is fucking shit against Protoss. So is Ryung. So is Clide. So is BoxeR. MMA seems to have improved a bit but he still has a pretty bad record.

SlayerS Terrans don't beat Protoss.
MaNa will beat GanZi in fairly one-sided fashion.

It would actually be a tremendous upset for GanZi to win here.


Agree with the bold but you forgot something important. Ganzi is from South Korea, Mana is not. So Ganzi will still probably win.

Tell that to Gatored.


I don't know why people make bad posts like this bringing up the one piece of evidence they have when there's so much evidence to the contrary.

lol. What evidence is there to the contrary? Please tell me.

By the way, I have far more than one piece of evidence.
Soundwave, Zerg player from Canberra, Australia. @SoundwaveSC
darkcloud8282
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada776 Posts
January 12 2012 06:10 GMT
#56
In what world is Jan 14 a Friday?..
Seraphone
Profile Joined January 2012
United Kingdom1219 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-12 06:46:10
January 12 2012 06:44 GMT
#57
On January 12 2012 15:05 RPR_Tempest wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2012 14:31 Seraphone wrote:
On January 12 2012 14:16 RPR_Tempest wrote:
On January 12 2012 14:15 Seraphone wrote:
On January 12 2012 14:13 RPR_Tempest wrote:
MaNa has really, really good PvT.

GanZi is fucking shit against Protoss. So is Ryung. So is Clide. So is BoxeR. MMA seems to have improved a bit but he still has a pretty bad record.

SlayerS Terrans don't beat Protoss.
MaNa will beat GanZi in fairly one-sided fashion.

It would actually be a tremendous upset for GanZi to win here.


Agree with the bold but you forgot something important. Ganzi is from South Korea, Mana is not. So Ganzi will still probably win.

Tell that to Gatored.


I don't know why people make bad posts like this bringing up the one piece of evidence they have when there's so much evidence to the contrary.

lol. What evidence is there to the contrary? Please tell me.

By the way, I have far more than one piece of evidence.


It's a terrible post because it's such a completely redundant piece of information. What is your point? That Ganzi has lost vs a foreign player? Yeah, no shit he's not able to have a 100% record vs foreigners, what a terrible player Ganzi must be. He's got a 68% overall win rate on TLPD (higher than any non Korean player) but nevermind because he lost to Gatored once in a best of three so Mana has got this no problem, right? Code S for multiples seasons? Yeah, what's that this is Mana we're talking about here he's a PvT god.

As for Mana, well he's a beast he beat Puma once at IEM, didn't you all see what a boss mode PvT he has? He beat Puma online once too, god he's so good PvT.

Nevermind that Mana has lost PvT's in the last six months to Polt, TOP, Bomber, Yoda and Puma because I'm just going to blind fanboy foreign players and bring up any and all examples of the foreigner winning without mentioning at all any of the times he loses, even if they completely outweigh the wins.

Mana might win this, he might not but even with lag he is up against a Code S player who has a legitimate claim to be amongst the 10 best players in the world. Mana would scrape his way into the top 50 at best.
Mvp, Nestea, Leenock, MC, Oz, Jjakji!
Packawana
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1081 Posts
January 12 2012 06:55 GMT
#58
On January 12 2012 06:56 Noktix wrote:
Ganzi just made ro16 in Code S, taking first in his group, and people are saying Mana will win?

Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat. No respect for Ganzi apparently.

I understand TvP is his worst but this is a Code S Korean Terran....ain't some run of the mill EU Terran


And Mana ain't some run of the mill EU Protoss. The kid is the best PvT-er over there, GanZi will be in for a tough fight.
"May all your dreaming fill the empty sky."
GGPope
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia367 Posts
January 12 2012 06:57 GMT
#59
GanZi's TvP is not too strong so I think MaNa could easily take this.
RPR_Tempest
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Australia7799 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-12 07:31:05
January 12 2012 07:06 GMT
#60
On January 12 2012 15:44 Seraphone wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2012 15:05 RPR_Tempest wrote:
On January 12 2012 14:31 Seraphone wrote:
On January 12 2012 14:16 RPR_Tempest wrote:
On January 12 2012 14:15 Seraphone wrote:
On January 12 2012 14:13 RPR_Tempest wrote:
MaNa has really, really good PvT.

GanZi is fucking shit against Protoss. So is Ryung. So is Clide. So is BoxeR. MMA seems to have improved a bit but he still has a pretty bad record.

SlayerS Terrans don't beat Protoss.
MaNa will beat GanZi in fairly one-sided fashion.

It would actually be a tremendous upset for GanZi to win here.


Agree with the bold but you forgot something important. Ganzi is from South Korea, Mana is not. So Ganzi will still probably win.

Tell that to Gatored.


I don't know why people make bad posts like this bringing up the one piece of evidence they have when there's so much evidence to the contrary.

lol. What evidence is there to the contrary? Please tell me.

By the way, I have far more than one piece of evidence.


It's a terrible post because it's such a completely redundant piece of information. What is your point? That Ganzi has lost vs a foreign player? Yeah, no shit he's not able to have a 100% record vs foreigners, what a terrible player Ganzi must be. He's got a 68% overall win rate on TLPD (higher than any non Korean player) but nevermind because he lost to Gatored once in a best of three so Mana has got this no problem, right? Code S for multiples seasons? Yeah, what's that this is Mana we're talking about here he's a PvT god.

As for Mana, well he's a beast he beat Puma once at IEM, didn't you all see what a boss mode PvT he has? He beat Puma online once too, god he's so good PvT.

Nevermind that Mana has lost PvT's in the last six months to Polt, TOP, Bomber, Yoda and Puma because I'm just going to blind fanboy foreign players and bring up any and all examples of the foreigner winning without mentioning at all any of the times he loses, even if they completely outweigh the wins.

Mana might win this, he might not but even with lag he is up against a Code S player who has a legitimate claim to be amongst the 10 best players in the world. Mana would scrape his way into the top 50 at best.


YoDa, PuMa, Bomber, Polt and TOP are all a lot better at TvP than GanZi. They don't outweigh his impressive wins at all. Plus I never said GanZi was terrible, he's great TvT and a fucking monster TvZ. Gatored and MaNa both have really good PvT, far better than GanZi's TvP. If you're going to bring up all the players MaNa has lost to PvT, then I can bring up all the players GanZi has lost to TvP. It's a long list. He's beaten HuK, Puzzle and KiWiKaKi, but that's the only time he's beaten anyone who doesn't suck in a TvP. MaNa has beaten equivalent better players than HuK and KiWiKaKi PvT.

By the way, I like how you accuse me of being a foreigner fanboy. Yeah, no. Calling someone a fanboy because you can't sway them with your argument is the worst thing you can do.

Don't worry, though. We're all wrong sometimes.
Soundwave, Zerg player from Canberra, Australia. @SoundwaveSC
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