I'm not saying Supernova is bad, since he is certainly not. I'm saying a player of lower caliber can beat a really good player with tactics such as these. (I'm not even saying Supernova is worse then MC, but it's still a fact that these builds take lower skill to execute than to defend against).
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Bergys
Sweden337 Posts
I'm not saying Supernova is bad, since he is certainly not. I'm saying a player of lower caliber can beat a really good player with tactics such as these. (I'm not even saying Supernova is worse then MC, but it's still a fact that these builds take lower skill to execute than to defend against). | ||
Chenz
Sweden1197 Posts
On January 10 2012 19:37 Zorgaz wrote: DO NOT go no Robo against Supernova..... ![]() That is what made MC lose, had he had a observer he would have won ^^ Supernova doing some good mind-tricks though Do not ever go no robo unless you're sure that you're opponent is going a low gas build. MC had scouted pretty much nothing at all and still decided to skip the robo, which is a stupid move which obviously showed this game. | ||
Zorgaz
Sweden2951 Posts
Yeah, are you saying a Two-base timing is a allin? I'd say one of the more regular strats ^^. | ||
bittman
Australia8759 Posts
To be fair, Protoss should almost always make a Robo. Because observers. | ||
MuseMike
United States1339 Posts
On January 10 2012 19:38 rebuffering wrote: well MC if you want to gamble, this is what happens, getting a robo is necessarry, yes there was a bunker in good position, but cman this was the last game of the set, you should probably play it safe. Why does one player have to play it safe? Supernova was doing a one base all in that wasn't safe either. | ||
Hassybaby
United Kingdom10823 Posts
Because sometimes you can 3gate Stargate | ||
Wrathsc2
United States2025 Posts
On January 10 2012 19:38 Scarecrow wrote: Fortunately 111 blind counters everything not stargate | ||
Lysanias
Netherlands8351 Posts
On January 10 2012 19:38 MetalLobster wrote: I knew supernova couldn't win without using 1/1/1 Why should he, it's a valid strat, MC cheeses all the time aswell. Part of the game and Supernova fooled him like a BOSS. | ||
AndAgain
United States2621 Posts
On January 10 2012 19:37 PredY wrote: YES! loved this game. protoss thinking he can blind counter Protoss does everything blind regardless. | ||
Iamyournoob
Germany595 Posts
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Markwerf
Netherlands3728 Posts
You CANT assume gasless expand from quick wallin anymore since the rax nerf, any build can do a quick wallin except 2 rax and still do normal. On cross positions there is absolutely no risk of pressure if you've seen 2 depots so just ALWAYS go quick robo after FE then MC.. Stupid suicide toss from time to time. | ||
FlyingDike
United States221 Posts
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Witten
United States2094 Posts
It takes just as much skill to not make an observer against a guy who went cloak banshee in every game before that. Not the best series of all time, but oh well. It's always depressing to watch one cloak unit come into a base and kill everything. Inca vs. Polt being another example. | ||
Alejandrisha
United States6565 Posts
brilliant..? i see this kind of play all the time. it's not what i'd call brilliant. it's gimmicky as any other thing one can hide. | ||
Shock710
Australia6097 Posts
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cyclone25
Romania3344 Posts
On January 10 2012 19:37 babo213 wrote: Supernova is so gimmicky and boring to watch He probably studied MC's games from HSC4, and knew he had a easy win with these builds. | ||
Salteador Neo
Andorra5591 Posts
On January 10 2012 19:38 Nocteo wrote: I heard observers do quite a good job scouting. Banshees also scout really cool while winning you some game here and there. | ||
Proko
United States1022 Posts
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Nocteo
Belgium799 Posts
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TheDwf
France19747 Posts
On January 10 2012 19:38 WigglingSquid wrote: Terran early game was always perplexing me about cloaking and detection, and this is a good example of my reasons. It makes for very boring BO losses against every race which needs tech to detect... every one but Terran. You know there are BO losses to Cloak Banshees even in TvT, right? | ||
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