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KingPaddy
Profile Joined November 2010
1053 Posts
January 10 2012 16:07 GMT
#3741
Hmm.. I guess in hindsight the results are explainable: Leenock suffers from runner-up curse and it seems there is a Curious curse affecting people who get to Code S without losing a map in Code A..
Voted MC and Leenock though..
KanoCoke
Profile Joined June 2011
Japan863 Posts
January 10 2012 16:22 GMT
#3742
After ForGG got slapped down by Leenock, I knew he was going to get last place, much like Curious did last season.

I just hope that he gets to keep his spot, and that Curious doesn't lose as badly as he did last time.
Will always cheer for: MMA Bomber Taeja Curious Life herO Zest
QTIP.
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States2113 Posts
January 10 2012 16:24 GMT
#3743
Yeee MC.
"Trash Micro but Win. Its Marin." - Min Chul
Vul
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States685 Posts
January 10 2012 16:27 GMT
#3744
On January 11 2012 00:54 frucisky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2012 00:48 mitthrawn wrote:
So glad that ForGG is down to Code-A. Not that I don't like him but hopefully that will end this ridiculous "OMG BW PRO >>>>>> SC2 NOOBS" hype a bit.

Feel sad for Leenock though.

Agreed. All that fanboy overhyping is actually making people (including myself) hoping he loses just so people stop hyping him so bad. Poor Leenock though ): so close him and MC.


Yea man, it's like I can't even walk down the street anymore without someone talking to me about how good ForGG is. Unbelievable! I hope he loses all of his games too.


Latham
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
9586 Posts
January 10 2012 16:29 GMT
#3745
Yay, MC got through. I admit I became a fan again after HSC.
For the curse of life is the curse of want. PC = https://be.pcpartpicker.com/user/LathamTK/builds/#view=CrqmP6
Assirra
Profile Joined August 2010
Belgium4169 Posts
January 10 2012 16:41 GMT
#3746
On January 11 2012 01:04 jyLee wrote:
Doesnt change the fact that ForGG still got through Code A on his FIRST attempt on pure mechanics. Yes he's hyped almost as much as Tebow but if you watch his stream you can understand where it comes from. His mechanics are on par with MVP and probably better after what I've seen on both their streams. I think if ForGG actually studied the game rather than just hone mechanics, he would be a monster. Its clear he's got the bw mindset that mechanics >>> strategy and thats not the case for sc2.

I really wish people would stop using the "i watched his stream" excuse for so many players.
Guess what, on stream/ladder you can get away with so much and fight a lot lower competition.
It's simply not compareable.
TaKiTaKi
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany58 Posts
January 10 2012 16:44 GMT
#3747
Tuxedo is OK, but the cravat is just too much
SeaSwift
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Scotland4486 Posts
January 10 2012 16:46 GMT
#3748
On January 11 2012 01:41 Assirra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2012 01:04 jyLee wrote:
Doesnt change the fact that ForGG still got through Code A on his FIRST attempt on pure mechanics. Yes he's hyped almost as much as Tebow but if you watch his stream you can understand where it comes from. His mechanics are on par with MVP and probably better after what I've seen on both their streams. I think if ForGG actually studied the game rather than just hone mechanics, he would be a monster. Its clear he's got the bw mindset that mechanics >>> strategy and thats not the case for sc2.

I really wish people would stop using the "i watched his stream" excuse for so many players.
Guess what, on stream/ladder you can get away with so much and fight a lot lower competition.
It's simply not compareable.


Exactly. If people went entirely by what they saw on streams, Hero would undoubtedly be the best player in the world. He isn't.
Alvalanker
Profile Joined July 2011
United States253 Posts
January 10 2012 16:53 GMT
#3749
That Leenock - Fin game 1 was insane, definitely one of the best I've ever seen TvZ
The fragile art of existence is kept alive by sheer persistence.
SeaSwift
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Scotland4486 Posts
January 10 2012 16:55 GMT
#3750
For some reason GOM isn't accepting my debit card details, so I can't watch the VODS T_T
babylon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
8765 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-10 16:59:48
January 10 2012 16:57 GMT
#3751
I feel vindicated now that fOrGG bombed out. That sounds horrible, but it's true.

I even voted for him as two of those who would advance -- I chose fOrGG and Supernova since I thought MC would be hella jetlagged and Leenock's not been putting up results (though I got the initial Supernova > MC and Leenock > fOrGG right ^^; ) -- but I'm happy with the results. I swear that fOrGG sucked out all of Supernova's hype; while fOrGG has accomplished nothing noteworthy, Supernova's been doing so well lately.

EDIT: This is the only time I'll ever break Top 10 in LB, lulz.
SeaSwift
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Scotland4486 Posts
January 10 2012 17:02 GMT
#3752
I still find it hilarious what Fionn predicted here, and the group went completely opposite.

Fionn's curse again.
Zzoram
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada7115 Posts
January 10 2012 17:02 GMT
#3753
I guess this means MC remains the undisputed #1 Protoss. He has had by far the best and most consistent results of any other Protoss, and when he's on fire his play looks great.
babylon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
8765 Posts
January 10 2012 17:05 GMT
#3754
On January 11 2012 02:02 Zzoram wrote:
I guess this means MC remains the undisputed #1 Protoss. He has had by far the best and most consistent results of any other Protoss, and when he's on fire his play looks great.

I don't think he's ever been anything but #1, even while slumping. Like ... even when he was slumping, it was less "X is #1 now!" and more "... every other Protoss kinda sucks, including MC, but the throne's just kinda empty." I do think Oz is really good, but he doesn't have the exposure and doesn't get invited to tourneys.
Beren
Profile Joined June 2010
United States514 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-10 17:07:05
January 10 2012 17:06 GMT
#3755
On January 11 2012 01:57 babylon wrote:
I feel vindicated now that fOrGG bombed out. That sounds horrible, but it's true.

I even voted for him as two of those who would advance -- I chose fOrGG and Supernova since I thought MC would be hella jetlagged and Leenock's not been putting up results (though I got the initial Supernova > MC and Leenock > fOrGG right ^^; ) -- but I'm happy with the results. I swear that fOrGG sucked out all of Supernova's hype; while fOrGG has accomplished nothing noteworthy, Supernova's been doing so well lately.

EDIT: This is the only time I'll ever break Top 10 in LB, lulz.


what...huh? I'm confused... do you watch GSL?
SeaSwift
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Scotland4486 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-10 17:13:16
January 10 2012 17:09 GMT
#3756
On January 11 2012 02:05 babylon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2012 02:02 Zzoram wrote:
I guess this means MC remains the undisputed #1 Protoss. He has had by far the best and most consistent results of any other Protoss, and when he's on fire his play looks great.

I don't think he's ever been anything but #1, even while slumping. Like ... even when he was slumping, it was less "X is #1 now!" and more "... every other Protoss kinda sucks, including MC, but the throne's just kinda empty." I do think Oz is really good, but he doesn't have the exposure and doesn't get invited to tourneys.


Oz has actually been to 2 MLGs and another smaller tourney, he just hasn't performed well in them so people kind of forget about him. EDIT: here.

To put that into context, that's 1 less MLG than MC, and MC has both: a) been seeded yet has a 10% higher winrate (doesn't play the casuals in the Open Bracket) and b) placed highly in all 3 of them (3rd, 2nd and 6th).

Oz is really good, and has played well in GSL, but I don't think he's done enough to be a competitor for MC's throne.
Sanchonator
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia490 Posts
January 10 2012 17:11 GMT
#3757
On January 11 2012 02:02 SeaSwift wrote:
I still find it hilarious what Fionn predicted here, and the group went completely opposite.

Fionn's curse again.


fionn has it figured out
PureBalls
Profile Joined January 2012
Austria383 Posts
January 10 2012 17:14 GMT
#3758
On January 11 2012 02:09 SeaSwift wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2012 02:05 babylon wrote:
On January 11 2012 02:02 Zzoram wrote:
I guess this means MC remains the undisputed #1 Protoss. He has had by far the best and most consistent results of any other Protoss, and when he's on fire his play looks great.

I don't think he's ever been anything but #1, even while slumping. Like ... even when he was slumping, it was less "X is #1 now!" and more "... every other Protoss kinda sucks, including MC, but the throne's just kinda empty." I do think Oz is really good, but he doesn't have the exposure and doesn't get invited to tourneys.


Oz has actually been to 2 MLGs and another smaller tourney, he just hasn't performed well in them so people kind of forget about him.

To put that into context, that's 1 less MLG than MC, and MC has both: a) been seeded yet has a 10% higher winrate (doesn't play the casuals in the Open Bracket) and b) placed highly in all 3 of them (3rd, 2nd and 6th).

Oz is really good, and has played well in GSL, but I don't think he's done enough to be a competitor for MC's throne.

I find it funny, how people cant wait for MC to slip, so they can say how he was never really good, and how he only knows how to all in all the time, and that the unproven protoss player XY is the new boss. I laugh every time MC proves them wrong.

I couldnt agree with you more. Oz, or any other toss (sorry Hero!), is no match for MC. Boss so good!
yoshi245
Profile Joined May 2011
United States2974 Posts
January 10 2012 17:15 GMT
#3759
Goddamn Fionn is actually cursing people. Next time predict ForGG to lose so he can actually win. I really wanted Leenock and ForGG to advance this group, nothing against MC and Supernova, but I guess it just wasn't their time, or the curse (take whichever excuse you want).
"Numbers speak about the past, not the present." -Thorzain
babylon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
8765 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-10 17:36:50
January 10 2012 17:28 GMT
#3760
On January 11 2012 02:06 Beren wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2012 01:57 babylon wrote:
I feel vindicated now that fOrGG bombed out. That sounds horrible, but it's true.

I even voted for him as two of those who would advance -- I chose fOrGG and Supernova since I thought MC would be hella jetlagged and Leenock's not been putting up results (though I got the initial Supernova > MC and Leenock > fOrGG right ^^; ) -- but I'm happy with the results. I swear that fOrGG sucked out all of Supernova's hype; while fOrGG has accomplished nothing noteworthy, Supernova's been doing so well lately.

EDIT: This is the only time I'll ever break Top 10 in LB, lulz.


what...huh? I'm confused... do you watch GSL?

I mean post-last GSL. He's been underperforming given what people are expecting of him (in AoL, for instance, coming last in his group, here he just got bounced to Code A again). I feel like he underperformed in some other showing too, but I can't remember clearly.

On January 11 2012 02:09 SeaSwift wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2012 02:05 babylon wrote:
On January 11 2012 02:02 Zzoram wrote:
I guess this means MC remains the undisputed #1 Protoss. He has had by far the best and most consistent results of any other Protoss, and when he's on fire his play looks great.

I don't think he's ever been anything but #1, even while slumping. Like ... even when he was slumping, it was less "X is #1 now!" and more "... every other Protoss kinda sucks, including MC, but the throne's just kinda empty." I do think Oz is really good, but he doesn't have the exposure and doesn't get invited to tourneys.


Oz has actually been to 2 MLGs and another smaller tourney, he just hasn't performed well in them so people kind of forget about him. EDIT: here.

To put that into context, that's 1 less MLG than MC, and MC has both: a) been seeded yet has a 10% higher winrate (doesn't play the casuals in the Open Bracket) and b) placed highly in all 3 of them (3rd, 2nd and 6th).

Oz is really good, and has played well in GSL, but I don't think he's done enough to be a competitor for MC's throne.

I ... don't know what you're responding to here? Objectively looking at it, Oz does have waaaaaaaaaaaay less exposure and doesn't get invited to places like HSC/IEM, while MC does. In fact, Oz just plain doesn't get invited most of the time; FXO has to send him. While Oz had bad results at Anaheim (lost to Rain and wbc), with Koreans in the OB at the later MLGs like Providence (where he lost to Leenock who eventually won the whole thing, then Keen), the OB is, IMO, much, much harder to go through if you want to place high. And he lost to Keen 2-3 in BenQ, and Keen's freaking good, man.

I think being seeded into groups is actually much more of an advantage than having to play through the OB at the Korean-filled MLGs, where if you make one mistake (think Polt getting knocked out) or run into two good Koreans in the OB, you're dead. Oz could be really good -- I dunno how good, and I personally don't think he'll make it out of his group this GSL -- but we just don't see enough of him to really judge. He could also just be a shitty endurance player (like NesTea for instance). We can't know for sure.
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