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Jigsetcza
Profile Joined August 2010
United States118 Posts
January 10 2012 14:05 GMT
#3681
On January 10 2012 23:01 purpose wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2012 22:54 Ysellian wrote:
On January 10 2012 22:52 purpose wrote:
I think Naniwa is a childish person who often do things that is not really smart. He and Idra are much alike tbh.

still I think GSL did wrong. Sure they had the right to do what they did but it still was stupied.

As for watching it, I am not and I feel freaking GREAT!! I can think of 1000 things that I rather do then watch GSL tbh. But thats just my personal preference. So you enjoy it!


and one of those things is commenting in a topic of a tournament you don't feel like watching :/ I guess that is just personal preference.


That I dont want to watch it does not mean I dont want to see the result. And this time I feelt like checking if the games was any good. I did not know that there was a rule that said you can only read and type in the LB topic if you watched the games.



So you're gimping yourself just so you can stand up for a player that you don't even know personally? Talk about extreme fans.
purpose
Profile Joined May 2008
Sweden1017 Posts
January 10 2012 14:07 GMT
#3682
On January 10 2012 23:04 Ysellian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2012 23:01 purpose wrote:
On January 10 2012 22:54 Ysellian wrote:
On January 10 2012 22:52 purpose wrote:
I think Naniwa is a childish person who often do things that is not really smart. He and Idra are much alike tbh.

still I think GSL did wrong. Sure they had the right to do what they did but it still was stupied.

As for watching it, I am not and I feel freaking GREAT!! I can think of 1000 things that I rather do then watch GSL tbh. But thats just my personal preference. So you enjoy it!


and one of those things is commenting in a topic of a tournament you don't feel like watching :/ I guess that is just personal preference.


That I dont want to watch it does not mean I dont want to see the result. And this time I feelt like checking if the games was any good. I did not know that there was a rule that said you can only read and type in the LB topic if you watched the games.



You talk about a 1000 things you'd rather do then watch the GSL and being all happy about it, yet you still care about results and even bother to comment. Aren't you just being in denial?


lol, man is this really so hard to understand? Give it a few minutes and think really hard about it and see if you can figure it out? If you still dont then there is nothing I can say to explain this to you.
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-10 14:08:50
January 10 2012 14:07 GMT
#3683
On January 10 2012 22:40 Tsubbi wrote:
zerg's been having a hard time since november, especially in korea

both matchups below 45% winrate
code s spots went from 7 to 8 to 7 after revamp which was supposed to even out racial representation (both gom seed went to zergs so it's 9 atm)

hopefully some of the remaining zerg's have new build or approaches to the matchup

Zerg's problems have also been a result of Coca's withdrawal and Nestea's slump. Furthermore rising stars like Curious underperformed to expectations (hopefully he does well this season). The top players are struggling a bit, but Code A still has many rising Zerg players.
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
XiaoJoyce-
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
China2908 Posts
January 10 2012 14:08 GMT
#3684
On January 10 2012 22:58 Noocta wrote:
Well, 0/4 Liquibet today.


Do not feel sad, next round is free points

Vote MvP Nestea?
Pew! Pew! Chitty Chitty Bang Bang!
purpose
Profile Joined May 2008
Sweden1017 Posts
January 10 2012 14:09 GMT
#3685
On January 10 2012 23:05 Jigsetcza wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2012 23:01 purpose wrote:
On January 10 2012 22:54 Ysellian wrote:
On January 10 2012 22:52 purpose wrote:
I think Naniwa is a childish person who often do things that is not really smart. He and Idra are much alike tbh.

still I think GSL did wrong. Sure they had the right to do what they did but it still was stupied.

As for watching it, I am not and I feel freaking GREAT!! I can think of 1000 things that I rather do then watch GSL tbh. But thats just my personal preference. So you enjoy it!


and one of those things is commenting in a topic of a tournament you don't feel like watching :/ I guess that is just personal preference.


That I dont want to watch it does not mean I dont want to see the result. And this time I feelt like checking if the games was any good. I did not know that there was a rule that said you can only read and type in the LB topic if you watched the games.



So you're gimping yourself just so you can stand up for a player that you don't even know personally? Talk about extreme fans.


lol! Sorry this is nothing personal but worst post ever! Think before you post tbh.
Assirra
Profile Joined August 2010
Belgium4169 Posts
January 10 2012 14:10 GMT
#3686
On January 10 2012 23:07 purpose wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2012 23:04 Ysellian wrote:
On January 10 2012 23:01 purpose wrote:
On January 10 2012 22:54 Ysellian wrote:
On January 10 2012 22:52 purpose wrote:
I think Naniwa is a childish person who often do things that is not really smart. He and Idra are much alike tbh.

still I think GSL did wrong. Sure they had the right to do what they did but it still was stupied.

As for watching it, I am not and I feel freaking GREAT!! I can think of 1000 things that I rather do then watch GSL tbh. But thats just my personal preference. So you enjoy it!


and one of those things is commenting in a topic of a tournament you don't feel like watching :/ I guess that is just personal preference.


That I dont want to watch it does not mean I dont want to see the result. And this time I feelt like checking if the games was any good. I did not know that there was a rule that said you can only read and type in the LB topic if you watched the games.



You talk about a 1000 things you'd rather do then watch the GSL and being all happy about it, yet you still care about results and even bother to comment. Aren't you just being in denial?


lol, man is this really so hard to understand? Give it a few minutes and think really hard about it and see if you can figure it out? If you still dont then there is nothing I can say to explain this to you.

I know, you love to whine your favorite player didn't got in and feel the need to cry about it nonstop.
Good i figured it out.
Jojo131
Profile Joined January 2011
Brazil1631 Posts
January 10 2012 14:10 GMT
#3687
Shame for ForGG, really thought he'd make a splash.

Awesome job by Supernova and especially MC.
babybell
Profile Joined June 2011
776 Posts
January 10 2012 14:11 GMT
#3688
zomfg just came back from work. this outcome was the least expected - 3% of the votes. nice
Jigsetcza
Profile Joined August 2010
United States118 Posts
January 10 2012 14:11 GMT
#3689
On January 10 2012 23:09 purpose wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2012 23:05 Jigsetcza wrote:
On January 10 2012 23:01 purpose wrote:
On January 10 2012 22:54 Ysellian wrote:
On January 10 2012 22:52 purpose wrote:
I think Naniwa is a childish person who often do things that is not really smart. He and Idra are much alike tbh.

still I think GSL did wrong. Sure they had the right to do what they did but it still was stupied.

As for watching it, I am not and I feel freaking GREAT!! I can think of 1000 things that I rather do then watch GSL tbh. But thats just my personal preference. So you enjoy it!


and one of those things is commenting in a topic of a tournament you don't feel like watching :/ I guess that is just personal preference.


That I dont want to watch it does not mean I dont want to see the result. And this time I feelt like checking if the games was any good. I did not know that there was a rule that said you can only read and type in the LB topic if you watched the games.



So you're gimping yourself just so you can stand up for a player that you don't even know personally? Talk about extreme fans.


lol! Sorry this is nothing personal but worst post ever! Think before you post tbh.


You answered my question with an insult. Nevermind that tho, can you answer my question?
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
January 10 2012 14:12 GMT
#3690
On January 10 2012 23:08 XiaoJoyce- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2012 22:58 Noocta wrote:
Well, 0/4 Liquibet today.


Do not feel sad, next round is free points

Vote MvP Nestea?

MVP free points sure, but I wouldn't vote on nestea. I'd go with lucky personally.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Maenander
Profile Joined November 2002
Germany4926 Posts
January 10 2012 14:12 GMT
#3691
On January 10 2012 23:05 Bashion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2012 22:58 pwnasaurus1 wrote:
Is it me or does MC never show exciting macro games. I cant remember the last time he did something besides a 2 base "all-in". I honestly don't see him getting past the round of 16 if he plays the way he did today. I know leenock went allin v. him the first 2 games of the series but still we did see macro games against terran from leenock at least.


I hate posts like this. Even if MC plays 10 macro games in a single day, someone will pop and post something like that.

Did you watch any of his HSC games?

Did you watch his games against ForGG and Supernova?

Im only talking about his most recent matches so you dont have try to hard to find vods or LR about them.

Let's not forget the opponents tried to end it quickly in most of MCs games today.
Ysellian
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands9029 Posts
January 10 2012 14:13 GMT
#3692
On January 10 2012 23:07 purpose wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2012 23:04 Ysellian wrote:
On January 10 2012 23:01 purpose wrote:
On January 10 2012 22:54 Ysellian wrote:
On January 10 2012 22:52 purpose wrote:
I think Naniwa is a childish person who often do things that is not really smart. He and Idra are much alike tbh.

still I think GSL did wrong. Sure they had the right to do what they did but it still was stupied.

As for watching it, I am not and I feel freaking GREAT!! I can think of 1000 things that I rather do then watch GSL tbh. But thats just my personal preference. So you enjoy it!


and one of those things is commenting in a topic of a tournament you don't feel like watching :/ I guess that is just personal preference.


That I dont want to watch it does not mean I dont want to see the result. And this time I feelt like checking if the games was any good. I did not know that there was a rule that said you can only read and type in the LB topic if you watched the games.



You talk about a 1000 things you'd rather do then watch the GSL and being all happy about it, yet you still care about results and even bother to comment. Aren't you just being in denial?


lol, man is this really so hard to understand? Give it a few minutes and think really hard about it and see if you can figure it out? If you still dont then there is nothing I can say to explain this to you.


No I understand perfectly. You either still care enough about the GSL to bother to look up scores( and are doing a half-ass job at boycotting) or you are a Naniwa fan who is just lurking around in GSL topics just so he can defend the guy. Neither which I personally consider to be more enjoyable than watching games, but that is like you stated personal preference.
Jigsetcza
Profile Joined August 2010
United States118 Posts
January 10 2012 14:15 GMT
#3693
On January 10 2012 23:12 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2012 23:08 XiaoJoyce- wrote:
On January 10 2012 22:58 Noocta wrote:
Well, 0/4 Liquibet today.


Do not feel sad, next round is free points

Vote MvP Nestea?

MVP free points sure, but I wouldn't vote on nestea. I'd go with lucky personally.


I voted for MVP for free points and idra hoping for a foreigner to win. Highly unlikely though.
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
January 10 2012 14:17 GMT
#3694
So MC is going to get to pick one player who wants in his Ro16 group (with the exception of the other 3 top GSL points players who make it through). Going to be interesting because MC always makes interesting picks
Jigsetcza
Profile Joined August 2010
United States118 Posts
January 10 2012 14:17 GMT
#3695
On January 10 2012 23:13 Ysellian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2012 23:07 purpose wrote:
On January 10 2012 23:04 Ysellian wrote:
On January 10 2012 23:01 purpose wrote:
On January 10 2012 22:54 Ysellian wrote:
On January 10 2012 22:52 purpose wrote:
I think Naniwa is a childish person who often do things that is not really smart. He and Idra are much alike tbh.

still I think GSL did wrong. Sure they had the right to do what they did but it still was stupied.

As for watching it, I am not and I feel freaking GREAT!! I can think of 1000 things that I rather do then watch GSL tbh. But thats just my personal preference. So you enjoy it!


and one of those things is commenting in a topic of a tournament you don't feel like watching :/ I guess that is just personal preference.


That I dont want to watch it does not mean I dont want to see the result. And this time I feelt like checking if the games was any good. I did not know that there was a rule that said you can only read and type in the LB topic if you watched the games.



You talk about a 1000 things you'd rather do then watch the GSL and being all happy about it, yet you still care about results and even bother to comment. Aren't you just being in denial?


lol, man is this really so hard to understand? Give it a few minutes and think really hard about it and see if you can figure it out? If you still dont then there is nothing I can say to explain this to you.


No I understand perfectly. You either still care enough about the GSL to bother to look up scores( and are doing a half-ass job at boycotting) or you are a Naniwa fan who is just lurking around in GSL topics just so he can defend the guy. Neither which I personally consider to be more enjoyable than watching games, but that is like you stated personal preference.


I know, that's what I just said.

He's depriving himself games that are good just cause he wants to defend his mighty prince naniwa. Seems kinda stupid if you ask me.
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
January 10 2012 14:18 GMT
#3696
On January 10 2012 23:12 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2012 23:08 XiaoJoyce- wrote:
On January 10 2012 22:58 Noocta wrote:
Well, 0/4 Liquibet today.


Do not feel sad, next round is free points

Vote MvP Nestea?

MVP free points sure, but I wouldn't vote on nestea. I'd go with lucky personally.


Even in what's been a slumping period I'd still take Nestea over most players when it comes to zvz
NesTea | Mvp | MC | Leenock | Losira | Gumiho | DRG | Taeja | Jinro | Stephano | Thorzain | Sen | Idra |Polt | Bomber | Symbol | Squirtle | Fantasy | Jaedong | Maru | sOs | Seed | ByuN | ByuL | Neeb| Scarlett | Rogue | IM forever
Grend
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
1600 Posts
January 10 2012 14:18 GMT
#3697
On January 10 2012 22:43 Jigsetcza wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2012 22:42 bigbeau wrote:
On January 10 2012 22:38 Jigsetcza wrote:
On January 10 2012 22:23 Grend wrote:
On January 10 2012 22:18 Fionn wrote:
On January 10 2012 22:17 AnTiX wrote:
On January 10 2012 10:09 SkullZ9 wrote:
On January 10 2012 09:39 AnTiX wrote:
[image loading]


If you seriously boycott the GSL for the Naniwa incident, you're an idiot cause he has himself admitted his fault and decided to not participate in this season by choice...


So for the record, I am not a Hardcore Naniwa fan. I respect him that's all.

I am not boycotting the all season of GSL just the first one. I am currently aware that Naniwa admitted his fault. I find myself his comportment childish but comprehensible. GSL could have punish him financially, because he embarrassed them on TV and show a lack of respect. But their decision to punish him in a sport manner is just wrong. By doing that I see a message "Hey we do what we want. This is our tournament, so behave yourself". I can't approve that.

This is not their tournament, this is our. Like Naniwa, GomTV owe us some respect. With their arbitrarily decision to revoke code S spot to Naniwa, without him breaking any rules, they disrespect the sport. We don't watch GSL because it's GSL. We watch GSL, because it's a sport competition with the best player. With their decision, they compromise the competition. I can't approve that.

By boycotting the first GSL of 2012 (and I hope I am not the only one), I remind GomTV they have to behave themselves. They have to respect the competition, it's not their tournament, it's our.


No, it's their tournament.

You do understand that what he means is that we are paying for the tournament right?
Not saying he is right but your comment is pretty useless too.



You're right, when I pay to watch the Lakers and Kobe was given a technical foul for whining a have a right to make the shots. If a "paying customer" like me would be not be in command of the penalties that would be disrespectful of the NBA to ignore my personal thoughts. The paying customers make up the sport so what we feel is right should be followed.

/endsarcasm

/endsarcasm



I was done posting about this, but your analogy was so awful I just have to correct it.
It's more like paying for NBATV then watching the playoffs where the teams play bo7s. The lakers are playing and are down 4-0 vs the Mavericks (meaning they cannot advance), but instead of going home, the NBA forces the lakers to continue playing games vs the mavericks. They do not try whatsoever because they have already lost, and now the NBA punishes the Lakers for the next season because they didnt try in games that had no meaning and should not have been played.


Wow you are so good at analogies. Read the quote before my post please.

I`m sorry but i think you misunderstood me.

I was just trying to point out what the guy before Fionn was arguing. I`m not saying that we as the viewers actually "own" GOMTV or their broadcasts, but that as the consumers of their product one could argue that we should hold sway over their decisions to some degree. Taking into consideration what the consumers want is essential for any business.

Whether Naniwa deserved to lose his Code S spot or not I do not know, and I highly doubt that the majority of viewers even care about it. So that GOM did not change their decision because of the rather limited outcry is a reasonable decision.

But nice job trying to attribute some strange straw man argument to me. Of course I did not mean what you wrote, I would be crazy to. Does not mean I`m wrong though, since that was never what I wrote or intended with my post.
♞ Against the Wind - Bob Seger ♞
Leifish
Profile Joined July 2011
851 Posts
January 10 2012 14:20 GMT
#3698
"Listen: ForGG is probably going to win Season 1 Code S!"
Chunhyang
Profile Joined December 2011
Bangladesh1389 Posts
January 10 2012 14:21 GMT
#3699
On January 10 2012 23:11 Abrafred wrote:
zomfg just came back from work. this outcome was the least expected - 3% of the votes. nice


Best results ever for me, heart beat head today.

I can't believe that even recently some I've read that some people think that Supernova, to put it bluntly, sucks.
and MC definitely does not.

Ah, OGSTheEnd. He'll make it back to Code S. Maybe even this season. He definitely has the skills. But being taken down a peg I think has benefits for everyone: for himself, a learning experience; for the fanboys, whose expectations will be lowered to more realistic levels and who won't have to engage in hurtful "overrated" discussions as often"; for the haters, for obvious reasons.
If you could reason with haters, there would be no haters. YGTMYFT
Jigsetcza
Profile Joined August 2010
United States118 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-10 14:26:20
January 10 2012 14:23 GMT
#3700
On January 10 2012 23:18 Grend wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2012 22:43 Jigsetcza wrote:
On January 10 2012 22:42 bigbeau wrote:
On January 10 2012 22:38 Jigsetcza wrote:
On January 10 2012 22:23 Grend wrote:
On January 10 2012 22:18 Fionn wrote:
On January 10 2012 22:17 AnTiX wrote:
On January 10 2012 10:09 SkullZ9 wrote:
On January 10 2012 09:39 AnTiX wrote:
[image loading]


If you seriously boycott the GSL for the Naniwa incident, you're an idiot cause he has himself admitted his fault and decided to not participate in this season by choice...


So for the record, I am not a Hardcore Naniwa fan. I respect him that's all.

I am not boycotting the all season of GSL just the first one. I am currently aware that Naniwa admitted his fault. I find myself his comportment childish but comprehensible. GSL could have punish him financially, because he embarrassed them on TV and show a lack of respect. But their decision to punish him in a sport manner is just wrong. By doing that I see a message "Hey we do what we want. This is our tournament, so behave yourself". I can't approve that.

This is not their tournament, this is our. Like Naniwa, GomTV owe us some respect. With their arbitrarily decision to revoke code S spot to Naniwa, without him breaking any rules, they disrespect the sport. We don't watch GSL because it's GSL. We watch GSL, because it's a sport competition with the best player. With their decision, they compromise the competition. I can't approve that.

By boycotting the first GSL of 2012 (and I hope I am not the only one), I remind GomTV they have to behave themselves. They have to respect the competition, it's not their tournament, it's our.


No, it's their tournament.

You do understand that what he means is that we are paying for the tournament right?
Not saying he is right but your comment is pretty useless too.



You're right, when I pay to watch the Lakers and Kobe was given a technical foul for whining a have a right to make the shots. If a "paying customer" like me would be not be in command of the penalties that would be disrespectful of the NBA to ignore my personal thoughts. The paying customers make up the sport so what we feel is right should be followed.

/endsarcasm

/endsarcasm



I was done posting about this, but your analogy was so awful I just have to correct it.
It's more like paying for NBATV then watching the playoffs where the teams play bo7s. The lakers are playing and are down 4-0 vs the Mavericks (meaning they cannot advance), but instead of going home, the NBA forces the lakers to continue playing games vs the mavericks. They do not try whatsoever because they have already lost, and now the NBA punishes the Lakers for the next season because they didnt try in games that had no meaning and should not have been played.


Wow you are so good at analogies. Read the quote before my post please.

I`m sorry but i think you misunderstood me.

I was just trying to point out what the guy before Fionn was arguing.
I`m not saying that we as the viewers actually "own" GOMTV or their broadcasts, but that as the consumers of their product one could argue that we should hold sway over their decisions to some degree. Taking into consideration what the consumers want is essential for any business.

Whether Naniwa deserved to lose his Code S spot or not I do not know, and I highly doubt that the majority of viewers even care about it. So that GOM did not change their decision because of the rather limited outcry is a reasonable decision.

But nice job trying to attribute some strange straw man argument to me. Of course I did not mean what you wrote, I would be crazy to. Does not mean I`m wrong though, since that was never what I wrote or intended with my post.


It's all good but it would be great if you didn't quote my post since it's kind of confusing. And yeah, I wasn't talking about if what gom did was right or wrong or what naniwa did was right or wrong since it was discussed soooo much already, I was talking about the post above me.
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