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Naphal
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany2099 Posts
January 09 2012 09:47 GMT
#61
great! cant wait =D
tfwarlord
Profile Joined January 2012
3 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-09 10:01:04
January 09 2012 09:59 GMT
#62
On January 09 2012 18:47 Qbek wrote:
Right before my Exams :C

Bah,

Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
January 09 2012 10:01 GMT
#63
On January 09 2012 18:59 tfwarlord wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2012 18:47 Qbek wrote:
Right before my Exams :C

Bah,


It ain't 70s bro. Education is useful nowadays. And the song is about primary school I think.
This space left intentionally dank /)3(\ http://i.imgur.com/RmeEUcF.png
Yonnua
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2331 Posts
January 09 2012 10:03 GMT
#64
On January 09 2012 17:41 johnnywup wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2012 16:21 Yonnua wrote:
SHOUTcraft has always been about both entertaining the audience with star-studded matches and giving back to our pros, so to deal with this issue we will be trialling a "bounty" system. Players who have no chance of advancing (which will occur if they lose have lost their first 2 BO3s) will qualify for a $50 comeback bounty, if they are able to win their final BO3. As always, nobody walks away empty handed from the SHOUTcraft Invitational and disheartened players have the chance to win back their pride and an extra cash prize if they are able to rally for a glorious last-stand.


It seems a bit unfair that a player who wins their first game and then loses the next two doesn't get anything, but a player who wins their last game gets $50. What if you play the weakest opponent in the group first? Why should you be penalised for that?

because you still have a shot at advancing in the last game


But if you get a group with MVP, Nestea, a bronze level player and a mid masters player, then the mid masters player is only ever going to win one game in the group. That player shouldn't be penalised if that isn't their last game. Obviously it won't be as extreme in the tournament, but in most tournaments you can tell at least one or two people who will make it out of the group stage.
LRSL 2014 Finalist! PartinG | Mvp | Bomber | Creator | NaNiwa | herO
tfwarlord
Profile Joined January 2012
3 Posts
January 09 2012 10:04 GMT
#65
On January 09 2012 19:01 Qbek wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2012 18:59 tfwarlord wrote:
On January 09 2012 18:47 Qbek wrote:
Right before my Exams :C

Bah,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7iITFrcNLcA

It ain't 70s bro. Education is useful nowadays. And the song is about primary school I think.


Of course , i have a degree in computer science my self. I was just kiddin
Lavit2099
Profile Joined November 2011
United States390 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-09 10:29:08
January 09 2012 10:20 GMT
#66
So should Colin Smith just forward the check on to Socke, since he has been stealing your last two tournaments esports dollars? Joking, of course.

After watching HSC4 (I'm new to the scene, as it were, and didn't get to see HSC3), I have a new level of respect for the EU players. I've watched the Dreamhack and Assembly stuff, but watching the players actually cast and talk about the game has made me quite the fan. In light of that, I'd love to see Goody in this thing, as well as Naama. Both great T players (I'm Z, so no bias there) that I think are just a few tweaks away from being awesome.

One request: try to limit the mirror matches as much as you can during the first two pools. The GSL is known for this (3T and 1Z, or 1T and 3Z). While yes, TvT can be fun at times, the other two are near painful to watch. The HSC4 finals, for example. That last PvP game lasted what, 6 minutes?
Frankon
Profile Joined May 2010
3054 Posts
January 09 2012 10:52 GMT
#67
On January 09 2012 19:20 lavit2099 wrote:
After watching HSC4 (I'm new to the scene, as it were, and didn't get to see HSC3), I have a new level of respect for the EU players. I've watched the Dreamhack and Assembly stuff, but watching the players actually cast and talk about the game has made me quite the fan. In light of that, I'd love to see Goody in this thing, as well as Naama. Both great T players (I'm Z, so no bias there) that I think are just a few tweaks away from being awesome.

As much as i would love to see Goody panzers rolling lets try not to kill TB and Apollo.
Lavit2099
Profile Joined November 2011
United States390 Posts
January 09 2012 11:20 GMT
#68
On January 09 2012 19:52 Frankon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2012 19:20 lavit2099 wrote:
After watching HSC4 (I'm new to the scene, as it were, and didn't get to see HSC3), I have a new level of respect for the EU players. I've watched the Dreamhack and Assembly stuff, but watching the players actually cast and talk about the game has made me quite the fan. In light of that, I'd love to see Goody in this thing, as well as Naama. Both great T players (I'm Z, so no bias there) that I think are just a few tweaks away from being awesome.

As much as i would love to see Goody panzers rolling lets try not to kill TB and Apollo.


Fine fine.

Spoil sport.
Greendotz
Profile Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2053 Posts
January 09 2012 11:23 GMT
#69
Ah, thank goodness, for a minute there I was starting to think you’d put this amazing tournament on hiatus, I was a fool to loose the faith Glad to see you’re continuing to mix things up a bit and not get stuck in a comfort zone, the new format sounds great.

Also really glad to see you’re only inviting the reining champion back, inviting back first and second place winners from the previous tournaments was the only thing I wasn’t keen on. No disrespect to DDE, he was a great addition to both tournaments, but I’d really like to see some fresh meat for the grinder.

As always hoping on DeMuslim, 2011 really wasn’t the best year for him, dominating this invitational will be a great start to the year for him. Unfortunately I’m currently living in Australia so I’ll probably miss the last day, still, there’ll always be vods and a cold beer waiting :D
Toez
Profile Joined June 2011
France167 Posts
January 09 2012 11:39 GMT
#70


Players - We will once again invite US and EU players to this tournaments. Koreans will not be invited due to the impossibility of playing a tournament live across so many timezones.


Here's an idea : Don't invite US players and then get Koreans + Eu. Way better. Am i right ?
like a baws
Eazyz
Profile Joined November 2011
New Zealand84 Posts
January 09 2012 11:42 GMT
#71
Really enjoyed the last one TB hopefully this one can be just as good, if not better! Can't wait to watch
hard bro
Hondelul
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
1999 Posts
January 09 2012 11:57 GMT
#72
On January 09 2012 20:39 Toez wrote:
Show nested quote +


Players - We will once again invite US and EU players to this tournaments. Koreans will not be invited due to the impossibility of playing a tournament live across so many timezones.


Here's an idea : Don't invite US players and then get Koreans + Eu. Way better. Am i right ?

  • EU against Korea has to be played on US server due to connection. No matter how the games will go there will always be someone calling lag etc.
    EU/US can alternate servers and so make it almost fair
  • Times are not good either, if you start 10 CET it would be 18KST and the tournament might go on for a looong time. It will be quite late for Koreans later on or quite early for EU in the beginning
  • Korean only Invitational is planed and to be honest, I like more Koreans playing against each others and EU/US fighting. Most times much more entertaining than seeing a EU getting defeated by a Korean
Pyloss
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany1515 Posts
January 09 2012 13:07 GMT
#73
I hope taht socke will take his 3. Shoutcraft invitatinal ina row! :D

nice that he is invited^^
<3 sOs, Parting, Mana, Honor, TaKe, Mcanning<3
LittLeD
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden7973 Posts
January 09 2012 13:18 GMT
#74
Outstanding work once again TB. I wish you all the best success with yet another, im sure, soon to be extremely awesome tournament.

Thank you.
☆Grubby ☆| Tod|DeMusliM|ThorZaiN|SaSe|Moon|Mana| ☆HerO ☆
MCDayC
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom14464 Posts
January 09 2012 13:25 GMT
#75
I don't like the format, no offence. The best way of removing useless games is to make it like the GSL, a mini double elim 4 man group stage. That makes it much much more exciting (elimination is always a possibility), it removes useless games, and makes it much clear who is going through.
However, new SHOUTcraft always makes me happy, and I'm sure the tournament will be great.
VERY FRAGILE, LIKE A BABY PANDA EGG
Darkfrog
Profile Joined December 2011
Austria211 Posts
January 09 2012 13:27 GMT
#76
Awesome! Let the speculations begin!

I bet Nightend will be in there.
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
betaman
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom355 Posts
January 09 2012 13:38 GMT
#77
Hope to see Bling and Demuslim (if he's feeling better) and in the same group so we can finally see these two duke it out.
Lorch
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany3678 Posts
January 09 2012 13:45 GMT
#78
Socke fighting!!! Should be good, huge shoutout to Colin Smith for supporting esports, big up!
bbm
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom1320 Posts
January 09 2012 13:54 GMT
#79
Hey, TB, much love, although it would be a lot better if you used GSL group format IMO. It's just a double elimination tournament with four people. It's very straightforward (two matches, winners play each other for 1st place, losers play each other, loser of winners match plays winner of losers for 2nd place).


But hey, it's your tourney and I still love you.

Looking to see bling representing mah UK homeboiz
By.Sun or By.Rain, he always delivers
phos4
Profile Joined October 2009
Germany226 Posts
January 09 2012 13:58 GMT
#80
i agree with MCDayC. the gsl/msl format is the best for sc2 in my opinion. the 50€ bounty is a nice idea, but if a player is seriously pissed he wont care about that money.
anyways your tourney + overall effort for the community is amazing! looking forward for this.
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