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[IPL TAC] SlayerS vs. ReIGN (Day 10)

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IGNProLeague
Profile Joined April 2011
1184 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-19 08:43:40
December 18 2011 18:01 GMT
#1
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The time has come for another LR2 of the IGN Pro League Team Arena Challenge!


(Wiki)IPL Team Arena Challenge


IPL Team Arena Challenge General Discussion


Stream Link: http://www.ign.com/ipl


When: Monday, Dec 19 1:00am GMT (GMT+00:00) (we will also have a European re-broadcast as usual at Monday, Dec 19 5:30pm GMT (GMT+00:00))



Format

This double-elimination tournament features 8 teams from around the world and is an All-Kill team format. This match is being played for Losers Round 2. The first team to defeat everyone on the opposing team's roster (5 wins, or a best of 9), will move on in the Losers Bracket, while the loser will be eliminated from the tournament. Keep in mind that this has a $10,000 prize pool, and only three teams will make it to the money!




SlayerS is the most dominant team from our weekly team king of the hill, Team Arena Challenge. They went 5-1 against Dignitas in Winners Round 1, but lost against the very powerful European team, Mousesports! Team ReIGN is constantly showing that they are not to be underestimated, with 3 wins against coLMVP and a stunning 5-1 performance against Team Liquid in LR1. Here are their full rosters:


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ReIGN
Artist
Spades
KiWiKaKi
Future
Inori
SLush
giX

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SlayerS
BoxeR
Lots
Dragon
GanZi
MMA
Ryung
TaeJa
Clide
Cella
YuGiOh
Golden
Min
CoCa
Miya
Alicia
Brown
Crank
Puzzle
SocceR


The First Game of the IPL Team Arena Challenge is on Monday, Dec 19 1:00am GMT (GMT+00:00) (we will also have a European re-broadcast as usual at Monday, Dec 19 5:30pm GMT (GMT+00:00))


Poll: Who Will Win?!

SlayerS (65)
 
76%

Team ReIGN (20)
 
24%

85 total votes

Your vote: Who Will Win?!

(Vote): SlayerS
(Vote): Team ReIGN




Results!

+ Show Spoiler [ReIGN vs. SlayerS Results] +

Clide < Antiga Shipyard > SLush
Clide < Metalopolis > KiWiKaKi
Clide < Tal'Darim Altar > Spades
Clide < Shattered Temple > Artist
Puzzle < Daybreak > Artist
Puzzle < Xel'Naga Fortress > Inori
Ganzi < Terminus SE > Inori

SlayerS wins 5-2!



Map List

Xel'Naga Caverns
Metalopolis
Shakuras Plateau
Crevasse
Tal Darim Altar
Dual Sight
Xel'Naga Fortress
Terminus
Shattered Temple
Daybreak
Antiga Shipyard

The first map will be on a set rotation, and then it is loser's pick.



Casters

This week's games will be commentated by CatsPajamas, HDStarCraft, and/or PainUser



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Stay up to date with IPL 4 Qualifiers, IPL TV, IPL Fight Club, and IPL Team Arena by checking our [image loading] Facebook, [image loading] Twitter, [image loading] YouTube, and Justin.TV!
Dexington
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada7276 Posts
December 18 2011 18:02 GMT
#2
Slayers only sends out Protoss and Inori all kills.
"Man you guys are missing out waving your stats dicks about instead of watching this pvp" - bbm
Negatiive
Profile Joined September 2011
Canada207 Posts
December 18 2011 18:29 GMT
#3
On December 19 2011 03:02 Dexington wrote:
Slayers only sends out Protoss and Inori all kills.


That would be simply hilarious, inori is just too GODLY in PvP... i think reign once again will be underestimated and people will make calls 5-0 for team slayers.. sigh no love for reign. I hope ReIGN wins this one!
ROOT4ROOT <3
ReachTheSky
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3294 Posts
December 18 2011 18:36 GMT
#4
On December 19 2011 03:29 Negatiive wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2011 03:02 Dexington wrote:
Slayers only sends out Protoss and Inori all kills.


That would be simply hilarious, inori is just too GODLY in PvP... i think reign once again will be underestimated and people will make calls 5-0 for team slayers.. sigh no love for reign. I hope ReIGN wins this one!


Yeah RGN has definitely been underrated for a long time now. If they don't take the win from slayers i think it will be very close atleast.
TL+ Member
RageCommodore
Profile Joined September 2011
Germany912 Posts
December 18 2011 18:36 GMT
#5
Funnily enough, Slayers has exactly 5 Protoss players, so that could actually happen :D
BW: sGs.sTaRfaLL SC2: MarojiN | fan of: Darkforce, DBS, Last, Mvp, BoguS/InnoVatioN | Executer vs Choosy on Gladiator - Never forget T-T
xi Tempest x
Profile Joined July 2011
Scotland340 Posts
December 18 2011 18:39 GMT
#6
The only point that reign will get is how many wins inori gets, honestly think dragon could beat the rest of the team
HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
December 18 2011 18:56 GMT
#7
19 vs 7, where the 19 is 100% koreans, seems fair and all lol
pPingu
Profile Joined September 2011
Switzerland2892 Posts
December 18 2011 19:05 GMT
#8
Slayers should win if they are sending MMA as their final player, but even without him slayers shouldn't have too much problem
Fawkes
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada1935 Posts
December 18 2011 19:06 GMT
#9
Isn't Puzzle's PvP decent or maybe I am crazy
Taeyeon ~ Jennie ~ Seulgi ~ Irene @Fawkes711
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-18 19:16:46
December 18 2011 19:16 GMT
#10
On December 19 2011 04:06 Fawkes wrote:
Isn't Puzzle's PvP decent or maybe I am crazy


Yes, but Inori is like better than anyone in PvP, really.
TemplarCo.
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Mexico2870 Posts
December 18 2011 19:18 GMT
#11
It was shocking when SlayerS got knocked out by mouz, and I don't think they will lose again, close call maybe but I don't see them losing.
With an average game length of 7m36s over his 6 games in GSL3, this is a no-brainer. BitByBit pulls more SCVs than yo momma at a club on Mar Sara. ♞
CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
December 18 2011 19:55 GMT
#12
Taeja will be sent out first and an all-kill will ensure.
WriterWovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen.
ArtisaBang
Profile Joined December 2011
195 Posts
December 18 2011 19:56 GMT
#13
i hope SlayerS sending SocceR(Ven),its always fun to watch high skill wc3 players in sc2.
magicallypuzzled
Profile Joined June 2011
United States588 Posts
December 18 2011 21:19 GMT
#14
I am so excited for this It should be really fun to watch. unfortunately i won;t be able to actually watch more than one or two games during my lunch break i'll have to watch the rest latter.
is depressed
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44334 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-18 21:43:08
December 18 2011 21:42 GMT
#15
Reign is pretty damn good, but I don't see SlayerS losing this.

5-3 at closest imo, and that's if Protosses play against Inori.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
urasyupi2
Profile Joined August 2011
United States810 Posts
December 18 2011 21:46 GMT
#16
5-3 SlayerS probably. Reign has a couple of good players and they could win if SlayerS doesn't try. But, I don't really see that happening.
hemeh
magicallypuzzled
Profile Joined June 2011
United States588 Posts
December 18 2011 21:51 GMT
#17
i believe in reign being able to compete with and beat any team out there i know that they can win this weither or not they will is yet to be seen but i have faith. go reign slay some korean nerds.

and becuase I am a huge fan i can't resist

SLUSH ALL KILL INC
is depressed
red4ce
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States7313 Posts
December 18 2011 22:02 GMT
#18
Go ReIGN, crush these SlayerS punks!
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
December 18 2011 22:09 GMT
#19
On December 19 2011 03:02 Dexington wrote:
Slayers only sends out Protoss and Inori all kills.

30 seconds before they start the match inca joins SlayerS and the ultimate PvP showdown commences.
Glorious SEA doto
Dexington
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada7276 Posts
December 18 2011 22:38 GMT
#20
I actually just looked at Inori's PvP record on TLPD. Combining Korea and International, his record is only 13-17.
"Man you guys are missing out waving your stats dicks about instead of watching this pvp" - bbm
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
December 18 2011 23:26 GMT
#21
Agh, I really wish I could see this, but guess that's too late for me. Anyways, I'll definitely catch up to the vods.
redviper
Profile Joined May 2010
Pakistan2333 Posts
December 19 2011 01:18 GMT
#22
Go go Clide, allkill!
dinosrwar
Profile Joined September 2011
1290 Posts
December 19 2011 01:18 GMT
#23
When were these games played?
RyanRushia
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2748 Posts
December 19 2011 01:19 GMT
#24
Slayers 5-1 ReIGN imo!

best of luck guys!
I saw the angel in the marble and carved until I set him free. | coL.Ryan | www.twitter.com/coL_RyanR
MotherGoose
Profile Joined March 2011
66 Posts
December 19 2011 01:20 GMT
#25
On December 19 2011 10:18 dinosrwar wrote:
When were these games played?


The stream chat says the match was pre-recorded on Friday 16th Dec.
dinosrwar
Profile Joined September 2011
1290 Posts
December 19 2011 01:24 GMT
#26
On December 19 2011 10:20 MotherGoose wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2011 10:18 dinosrwar wrote:
When were these games played?


The stream chat says the match was pre-recorded on Friday 16th Dec.


Oh cool, so it's recent!
HuKPOWA
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1604 Posts
December 19 2011 01:33 GMT
#27
Reign is falling apart :D Would love to see an all kill by clide <3
ForTheDr3am
Profile Joined November 2010
842 Posts
December 19 2011 01:34 GMT
#28
Such a bad decision to not get Colossus after doing so much damage.
bkrow
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Australia8532 Posts
December 19 2011 01:34 GMT
#29
Cliiiiiiiiiiiiiide

He is so good hehe. I wouldn't be surprised if he got the all-kill; they will probably send artist to try snipe him
In The Rear With The Gear .. *giggle* /////////// cobra-LA-LA-LA-LA-LA!!!!
redviper
Profile Joined May 2010
Pakistan2333 Posts
December 19 2011 01:35 GMT
#30
Clllllllllllllllllllllliiiiiiiiiiiiiddddddddddeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee! What a comeback. That was ridiculously good.
Lavalamp799
Profile Joined March 2011
United States554 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-19 01:35:54
December 19 2011 01:35 GMT
#31
Terribly played by Kiwikaki. When he had the advantage he should have focus fired all the bunkers with the immortals and had the ramp forcefielded. The 3rd bunker lived way longer than it should have because Kiwi didn't forcefield the ramp so SCVs and marines were streaming down and the immortals were killing them instead of the bunker.
Daikas
Profile Joined December 2010
United States118 Posts
December 19 2011 01:38 GMT
#32
Kiwi haven't you been in that situation countless times? You were ahead! Get more ahead, build a third and tech colussus. Just cuz you killed all those scvs, he's still terran and can produce a big army.
Is that a sword? Luxury! Is that a horse? Sloth! Is that a helmet? Vanity!
RageCommodore
Profile Joined September 2011
Germany912 Posts
December 19 2011 01:38 GMT
#33
Wat.
I have no idea how Kiwi managed to lose this.
BW: sGs.sTaRfaLL SC2: MarojiN | fan of: Darkforce, DBS, Last, Mvp, BoguS/InnoVatioN | Executer vs Choosy on Gladiator - Never forget T-T
morlakaix
Profile Joined February 2011
United States860 Posts
December 19 2011 01:41 GMT
#34
who is the co-caster with cats?

Hall0wed
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States8486 Posts
December 19 2011 01:42 GMT
#35
Just tuned in. CLIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIDE
♦ My Life for BESTie ♦ 류세라 = 배 ♦
DamageControL
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States4222 Posts
December 19 2011 01:43 GMT
#36
Love team leagues, and I love this one a lot.

But I wish they'd turn down the music a little.
Liquid | SKT
bkrow
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Australia8532 Posts
December 19 2011 01:43 GMT
#37
On December 19 2011 10:41 morlakaix wrote:
who is the co-caster with cats?


Josh Suth AKA AskJoshy
In The Rear With The Gear .. *giggle* /////////// cobra-LA-LA-LA-LA-LA!!!!
Maenander
Profile Joined November 2002
Germany4926 Posts
December 19 2011 01:44 GMT
#38
results so far?
PhiliBiRD
Profile Joined November 2009
United States2643 Posts
December 19 2011 01:45 GMT
#39
well... little bit 1 sided so far :-/
Sarang
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Australia2363 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-19 01:51:29
December 19 2011 01:51 GMT
#40
Inori is sick in PvP and KiWiKaKi is good ... apart from those I don't see anyone in Reign taking a game off SlayerS a-team.

As long as SlayerS are prepared to use their good players, they should have this. Deal with Inori quickly and they've got it in the bag.

EDIT: oh it's started already LOL
"Killer helped me feel better before coming to the arena. He told me to say that." - Bomber
HuKPOWA
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1604 Posts
December 19 2011 01:51 GMT
#41
Artist and Inori left....if they can't pull off a miracle its over
redviper
Profile Joined May 2010
Pakistan2333 Posts
December 19 2011 01:52 GMT
#42
Clide 3-0 already! Come on Clide you can 5-0 and be a hero
DamageControL
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States4222 Posts
December 19 2011 01:53 GMT
#43
JoshSuth lovin' the Camera lol. Making faces.
Liquid | SKT
bkrow
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Australia8532 Posts
December 19 2011 01:53 GMT
#44
Artist is a good TvTer - he is their only hope off taking a game right now - i doubt SlayerS will send a Protoss player out of they know anything about Inori
In The Rear With The Gear .. *giggle* /////////// cobra-LA-LA-LA-LA-LA!!!!
NipponBanzai
Profile Joined September 2011
Canada518 Posts
December 19 2011 01:55 GMT
#45
On December 19 2011 10:53 bkrow wrote:
Artist is a good TvTer - he is their only hope off taking a game right now - i doubt SlayerS will send a Protoss player out of they know anything about Inori


I thought artists worst match up was tvt lol. I could be wrong.
pPingu
Profile Joined September 2011
Switzerland2892 Posts
December 19 2011 01:58 GMT
#46
Nobody is editing the LP page?

I missed the first games, so I can't do it all
HuKPOWA
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1604 Posts
December 19 2011 01:58 GMT
#47
If artist goes down i don't see Reign winning a game!
DamageControL
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States4222 Posts
December 19 2011 01:59 GMT
#48
On December 19 2011 10:58 pPingu wrote:
Nobody is editing the LP page?

I missed the first games, so I can't do it all

Clide > ????
Clide> Kiwikaki
Clide > Spades
forget the maps.
Liquid | SKT
MotherGoose
Profile Joined March 2011
66 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-19 03:25:03
December 19 2011 02:02 GMT
#49
On December 19 2011 10:44 Maenander wrote:
results so far?


(edited - done)
+ Show Spoiler +

(T)Clide < Antiga Shipyard > (Z)SLush
(T)Clide < Metalopolis > (P)KiWiKaKi
(T)Clide < Tal'Darim Altar > (T)Spades
(T)Clide < The Shattered Temple > (T)Artist
(P)Puzzle < Daybreak > (T)Artist
(P)Puzzle < Xel'Naga Fortress > (P)Inori
(T)GanZi < Terminus SE > (P)Inori
bokchoi
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Korea (South)9498 Posts
December 19 2011 02:02 GMT
#50
On December 19 2011 10:59 DamageControL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2011 10:58 pPingu wrote:
Nobody is editing the LP page?

I missed the first games, so I can't do it all

Clide > ????
Clide> Kiwikaki
Clide > Spades
forget the maps.


Clide > Slush Antiga Shipyard
Clide > Kiwikaki Metalopolis
Clide > Spades Tal' Darim Altar
pPingu
Profile Joined September 2011
Switzerland2892 Posts
December 19 2011 02:04 GMT
#51
Okay I edited thank you
Fawkes
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada1935 Posts
December 19 2011 02:06 GMT
#52
I'm not sure what the casters were talking about before they said something about Clide being supply blocked...pretty high chance of someone being blocked if they just lost two supply depots though...
Taeyeon ~ Jennie ~ Seulgi ~ Irene @Fawkes711
PhiliBiRD
Profile Joined November 2009
United States2643 Posts
December 19 2011 02:06 GMT
#53
wow wp by artist
xi Tempest x
Profile Joined July 2011
Scotland340 Posts
December 19 2011 02:07 GMT
#54
hmmm, puzzle is a strange choice
HuKPOWA
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1604 Posts
December 19 2011 02:10 GMT
#55
On December 19 2011 11:06 Fawkes wrote:
I'm not sure what the casters were talking about before they said something about Clide being supply blocked...pretty high chance of someone being blocked if they just lost two supply depots though...


my thoughts kind of a mistake on the caster <3 not the player
xilaratu
Profile Joined July 2010
United States233 Posts
December 19 2011 02:24 GMT
#56
this is such a boring game.
HuKPOWA
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1604 Posts
December 19 2011 02:25 GMT
#57
Outclassed :\ can't wait to see Inori's pvp now :DDDDD
Brotatolol
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1742 Posts
December 19 2011 02:26 GMT
#58
Get maxed, one big battle that's very one-sided, GG. *yawn* SlayerS got this.
GranDGranT
Profile Joined April 2011
Sri Lanka2141 Posts
December 19 2011 02:27 GMT
#59
No Gix
All Dota 2 casters are bad at their job
Trowa127
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom1230 Posts
December 19 2011 02:27 GMT
#60
Really strange decision making by Artist there. Going up to four rax before factory yet he didn't apply any pressure? He allowed Puzzle to play so greedily, both econ and tech and didn't try to punish him at all ( I think there was a big timing in which he could have done something when Puzzle took that stupidly greedy third of very few units ) and that just killed him at the end of the day.

Lets see how Inori does.
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aintz
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada5624 Posts
December 19 2011 02:33 GMT
#61
if puzzle loses it will be so sad. but people do the most stupid shit against inori lol
pPingu
Profile Joined September 2011
Switzerland2892 Posts
December 19 2011 02:36 GMT
#62
This was the most stupid thing I've ever seen from puzzle...
HuKPOWA
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1604 Posts
December 19 2011 02:36 GMT
#63
wow...puzzle fucked that up sooo bad...wasn't even phenomenal play from Inori was just....wow...from puzzle!
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
December 19 2011 02:37 GMT
#64
How does inori win like EVERY PvP? LOL
Dexington
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada7276 Posts
December 19 2011 02:37 GMT
#65
Seriously, Inori wins PvP even when does a dumb 4 gate... He has like a supernatural ability of countering his opponent's build.
"Man you guys are missing out waving your stats dicks about instead of watching this pvp" - bbm
TastyDog
Profile Joined August 2011
26 Posts
December 19 2011 02:37 GMT
#66
honestly... a 4gate from any progamer protoss would have won there. 1 gate robo with no sentries...
Stanlot
Profile Joined December 2010
United States5742 Posts
December 19 2011 02:37 GMT
#67
What did puzzle do?
MC: "Sentry Forcefield Forcefield Marauder... cage Marauder die die"
TastyDog
Profile Joined August 2011
26 Posts
December 19 2011 02:38 GMT
#68
On December 19 2011 11:37 Stanlot wrote:
What did puzzle do?

1 gate robo with no sentries :p
pPingu
Profile Joined September 2011
Switzerland2892 Posts
December 19 2011 02:38 GMT
#69
On December 19 2011 11:37 Stanlot wrote:
What did puzzle do?


Puzzle scouted an 11 gate from inori with mass chrono on the cyb and thought the best idea would be a 1 gate robot...
aintz
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada5624 Posts
December 19 2011 02:40 GMT
#70
and my theory of ppl doing stupid shit against inori stands lol

drgonzhere
Profile Joined November 2010
United States447 Posts
December 19 2011 02:41 GMT
#71
Does anyone follow when ReIGN's manager puts up his thoughts on the match? They are probably the most unintentionally hilarious thing on the internet right now. Whenever they lose, they should have won in his book. I'm pretty sure he thinks he has the best team in the world, I'm sorry but that is laughable.
Dictator for Life of the PuMa Fanclub/ DRG, PuMA, Sage, Puzzle, MMA Fighting!
NipponBanzai
Profile Joined September 2011
Canada518 Posts
December 19 2011 02:43 GMT
#72
On December 19 2011 11:41 drgonzhere wrote:
Does anyone follow when ReIGN's manager puts up his thoughts on the match? They are probably the most unintentionally hilarious thing on the internet right now. Whenever they lose, they should have won in his book. I'm pretty sure he thinks he has the best team in the world, I'm sorry but that is laughable.


To be fair he has kiwikaki on his team He's the king of losing when he should have won.
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
December 19 2011 02:49 GMT
#73
Wow, that was pretty smart to push out with the marines and force an immortal
1Eris1
Profile Joined September 2010
United States5797 Posts
December 19 2011 02:51 GMT
#74
Bleh, 1-1-1. What a lame finish
Known Aliases: Tyragon, Valeric ~MSL Forever, SKT is truly the Superior KT!
drgonzhere
Profile Joined November 2010
United States447 Posts
December 19 2011 02:52 GMT
#75
On December 19 2011 11:43 NipponBanzai wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2011 11:41 drgonzhere wrote:
Does anyone follow when ReIGN's manager puts up his thoughts on the match? They are probably the most unintentionally hilarious thing on the internet right now. Whenever they lose, they should have won in his book. I'm pretty sure he thinks he has the best team in the world, I'm sorry but that is laughable.


To be fair he has kiwikaki on his team He's the king of losing when he should have won.


Lol true fact! But then when he says he thinks Artist has some of the best t v z in the world, and he was confident that he could beat DRG, it makes you wonder about someone's sanity.
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dinosrwar
Profile Joined September 2011
1290 Posts
December 19 2011 02:53 GMT
#76
Oh snap, MVP vs SlayerS upcoming rematch! MMA vs DRG for the ace match ???
wklbishop
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1286 Posts
December 19 2011 02:53 GMT
#77
out of curiosity, how often does Ganzi win without cheese/all-in?

I'm not saying this as an insult, more of a... I've literally rarely seen him win without cheesing or all-inning.
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Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
December 19 2011 02:56 GMT
#78
On December 19 2011 11:53 wklbishop wrote:
out of curiosity, how often does Ganzi win without cheese/all-in?

I'm not saying this as an insult, more of a... I've literally rarely seen him win without cheesing or all-inning.

Honestly have no idea what games you've been watching then
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44334 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-19 02:57:24
December 19 2011 02:56 GMT
#79
On December 19 2011 11:53 wklbishop wrote:
out of curiosity, how often does Ganzi win without cheese/all-in?

I'm not saying this as an insult, more of a... I've literally rarely seen him win without cheesing or all-inning.


What match-up? Didn't he just wreck Kas TvT? It's pretty hard to do cheesy all-ins in that match-up too...

Anyways, final score:

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5-2 SlayerS
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Eternalmisfit
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States643 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-19 03:28:07
December 19 2011 03:01 GMT
#80
On December 19 2011 11:53 wklbishop wrote:
out of curiosity, how often does Ganzi win without cheese/all-in?

I'm not saying this as an insult, more of a... I've literally rarely seen him win without cheesing or all-inning.


I would recommend Ganzi-Leenock GSL Oct series. Ganzi took the series 2-1 and I think all three games were 15-20min+ game with the final game being an all bases taken slug-fest. He took out MKP 4-2 (4-3?) in Code A finals as well TvT and had decent macro games as far as I remember. I do have to say that I have seen him favoring 1 or 2 base plays in TvP though.
wklbishop
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1286 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-19 03:03:48
December 19 2011 03:01 GMT
#81
On December 19 2011 11:56 Itsmedudeman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2011 11:53 wklbishop wrote:
out of curiosity, how often does Ganzi win without cheese/all-in?

I'm not saying this as an insult, more of a... I've literally rarely seen him win without cheesing or all-inning.

Honestly have no idea what games you've been watching then


His code A matches against Taeja for one. His love of proxying stuff... (game 1 against lucky for ex.)? Are you guys serious?

Maybe it's because I remember the times he proxies like crazy better since they were weird games... but come on.

On December 19 2011 12:01 Eternalmisfit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2011 11:53 wklbishop wrote:
out of curiosity, how often does Ganzi win without cheese/all-in?

I'm not saying this as an insult, more of a... I've literally rarely seen him win without cheesing or all-inning.


I would recommend Ganzi-Leenock GSL Oct series. Ganzi took the series 2-1 and I think all three games were 15-20min+ game with the final game being an all bases taken slug-fest. He took out MVP 4-2 (4-3?) in Code A finals as well TvT and had decent macro games as far as I remember. I do have to say that I have seen him favoring 1 or 2 base plays in TvP though.


Ok.. it's coming back to me. I think it's because macro games are forgettable sometimes except for the really epic ones... but someone proxying a rax right outside of vision range is way more memorable.

EDIT: And proxying a factor with that rax...
Gameplay > Personality
1Eris1
Profile Joined September 2010
United States5797 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-19 03:07:48
December 19 2011 03:04 GMT
#82
On December 19 2011 12:01 Eternalmisfit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2011 11:53 wklbishop wrote:
out of curiosity, how often does Ganzi win without cheese/all-in?

I'm not saying this as an insult, more of a... I've literally rarely seen him win without cheesing or all-inning.


I would recommend Ganzi-Leenock GSL Oct series. Ganzi took the series 2-1 and I think all three games were 15-20min+ game with the final game being an all bases taken slug-fest. He took out MVP 4-2 (4-3?) in Code A finals as well TvT and had decent macro games as far as I remember. I do have to say that I have seen him favoring 1 or 2 base plays in TvP though.



Slight correction, he took out MKP I believe, not MVP. It was bomber who beat MVP in the Code A finals
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VirgilSC2
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States6151 Posts
December 19 2011 03:05 GMT
#83
Nobody updating the OP,

What are the results?
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Pajegetc
Profile Joined February 2011
United States3158 Posts
December 19 2011 03:08 GMT
#84
On December 19 2011 12:05 VirgilSC2 wrote:
Nobody updating the OP,

What are the results?


+ Show Spoiler +


5 - 2 Slayers

Clide 3 kills , before falling to Artist
Puzzle Kills Artist
Ironi kills puzzle
Ganzi Finishes the series.

Lose Early game - Cheese. Lose Mid Game - All Ined. Lose Late Game - OMG IMBALANCE. My Guide to Zerg LR.
Ansinjunger
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2451 Posts
December 19 2011 04:15 GMT
#85
On December 19 2011 12:08 Pajegetc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2011 12:05 VirgilSC2 wrote:
Nobody updating the OP,

What are the results?


+ Show Spoiler +


5 - 2 Slayers

Clide 3 kills , before falling to Artist
Puzzle Kills Artist
Ironi kills puzzle
Ganzi Finishes the series.



Grats to Artist for taking out Cliiiide. They gotta put him on air next MLG if he has a good Match up.

Also, thanks for showing me the winner. Not sarcastic--I really wanted to know so I can do something else :D
Hall0wed
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States8486 Posts
December 19 2011 04:35 GMT
#86
Don't wanna sound like a jerk but I wish IPL would do better at updating their OP. TT Seems to be slow on all of their topics. >_<
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Trusty
Profile Joined July 2010
New Zealand520 Posts
December 19 2011 04:37 GMT
#87
On December 19 2011 13:35 Hall0wed wrote:
Don't wanna sound like a jerk but I wish IPL would do better at updating their OP. TT Seems to be slow on all of their topics. >_<


I have noticed this too :<
AxionSteel
Profile Joined January 2011
United States7754 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-19 04:51:48
December 19 2011 04:50 GMT
#88
On December 19 2011 12:01 wklbishop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2011 11:56 Itsmedudeman wrote:
On December 19 2011 11:53 wklbishop wrote:
out of curiosity, how often does Ganzi win without cheese/all-in?

I'm not saying this as an insult, more of a... I've literally rarely seen him win without cheesing or all-inning.

Honestly have no idea what games you've been watching then


His code A matches against Taeja for one. His love of proxying stuff... (game 1 against lucky for ex.)? Are you guys serious?

Maybe it's because I remember the times he proxies like crazy better since they were weird games... but come on.

Show nested quote +
On December 19 2011 12:01 Eternalmisfit wrote:
On December 19 2011 11:53 wklbishop wrote:
out of curiosity, how often does Ganzi win without cheese/all-in?

I'm not saying this as an insult, more of a... I've literally rarely seen him win without cheesing or all-inning.


I would recommend Ganzi-Leenock GSL Oct series. Ganzi took the series 2-1 and I think all three games were 15-20min+ game with the final game being an all bases taken slug-fest. He took out MVP 4-2 (4-3?) in Code A finals as well TvT and had decent macro games as far as I remember. I do have to say that I have seen him favoring 1 or 2 base plays in TvP though.


Ok.. it's coming back to me. I think it's because macro games are forgettable sometimes except for the really epic ones... but someone proxying a rax right outside of vision range is way more memorable.

EDIT: And proxying a factor with that rax...


Ganzi is a beastly macro player, one of the better ones out there. He has often favoured 1-1-1 or something similar vs protoss in the past, because IMO he doesn't have great micro on his bio units so he seems to struggle in long games vs protoss, but tvt and tvz there are plenty of examples of long games from him.

tuho12345
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
4482 Posts
December 19 2011 04:50 GMT
#89
They will have to rebroadcast everything again after this and tomorrow for EU, so I think that's why.
magicallypuzzled
Profile Joined June 2011
United States588 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-19 06:04:36
December 19 2011 05:55 GMT
#90
On December 19 2011 11:41 drgonzhere wrote:
Does anyone follow when ReIGN's manager puts up his thoughts on the match? They are probably the most unintentionally hilarious thing on the internet right now. Whenever they lose, they should have won in his book. I'm pretty sure he thinks he has the best team in the world, I'm sorry but that is laughable.


so far they have only lost one match that has his thoughts on it thats way too soon to be saying he always says they should of won when ever they lose. It really isn't hard to see keen losing before artist came up he almost did to inori and with drg losing to dreamertt of all people it's not hard to see artist beating him.

i am not saying artist would beat drg just that it really isn't laughable.
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Farone
Profile Joined November 2010
Netherlands1219 Posts
December 19 2011 06:03 GMT
#91
On December 19 2011 12:04 1Eris1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2011 12:01 Eternalmisfit wrote:
On December 19 2011 11:53 wklbishop wrote:
out of curiosity, how often does Ganzi win without cheese/all-in?

I'm not saying this as an insult, more of a... I've literally rarely seen him win without cheesing or all-inning.


I would recommend Ganzi-Leenock GSL Oct series. Ganzi took the series 2-1 and I think all three games were 15-20min+ game with the final game being an all bases taken slug-fest. He took out MVP 4-2 (4-3?) in Code A finals as well TvT and had decent macro games as far as I remember. I do have to say that I have seen him favoring 1 or 2 base plays in TvP though.



Slight correction, he took out MKP I believe, not MVP. It was bomber who beat MVP in the Code A finals



yup ganzi beat MKP 4-3 in code A. Bomber beat MVP 4-2 in code A
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Jonoman92
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
United States9103 Posts
December 19 2011 06:43 GMT
#92
Wow I hate this crap! TvP, T going fake FE with a bunker outside natural into 1/1/1 attack t.t
Suichoy
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada397 Posts
December 19 2011 06:49 GMT
#93
Update the results plz plz plz
iso
Profile Joined July 2010
Syria25 Posts
December 19 2011 07:00 GMT
#94
On December 19 2011 15:49 Suichoy wrote:
Update the results plz plz plz


Results:
+ Show Spoiler +
5-2 Slayers
IGNProLeague
Profile Joined April 2011
1184 Posts
December 19 2011 07:04 GMT
#95
Updated, sorry for the delay, weekends tend to get a little hairy for making sure it gets done quickly.
GGPope
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia367 Posts
December 19 2011 07:53 GMT
#96
On December 19 2011 11:53 wklbishop wrote:
out of curiosity, how often does Ganzi win without cheese/all-in?

I'm not saying this as an insult, more of a... I've literally rarely seen him win without cheesing or all-inning.


GanZi is renowned throughout Korea (and most of the world, really) as having some of the best TvZ in the world. I'm pretty sure Leenock was aiming for him as a practice partner for his GSL final.

This is partly due to his mind games and tricks, but also because his macro game is pretty beastly as well.
NinjaNitrate
Profile Joined June 2011
82 Posts
December 19 2011 08:19 GMT
#97
Go GanZi :D - His games against MKP in the Code A Final are some of the most memorable for me.
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blamekilly
Profile Joined April 2011
466 Posts
December 19 2011 13:25 GMT
#98
On December 19 2011 11:53 wklbishop wrote:
out of curiosity, how often does Ganzi win without cheese/all-in?

I'm not saying this as an insult, more of a... I've literally rarely seen him win without cheesing or all-inning.


Who cares if he cheeses or does all-ins? You gotta have variety in your game and Ganzi does everything from cheese, allin, innovative strats and standard macro games. MVP and MMA do the same, they mix in different strats, including cheese. Who the hell wants to see 5 base, no fighting for 15 minutes, max army clash every single game?
Micket
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom2163 Posts
December 19 2011 13:47 GMT
#99
On December 19 2011 22:25 blamekilly wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2011 11:53 wklbishop wrote:
out of curiosity, how often does Ganzi win without cheese/all-in?

I'm not saying this as an insult, more of a... I've literally rarely seen him win without cheesing or all-inning.


Who cares if he cheeses or does all-ins? You gotta have variety in your game and Ganzi does everything from cheese, allin, innovative strats and standard macro games. MVP and MMA do the same, they mix in different strats, including cheese. Who the hell wants to see 5 base, no fighting for 15 minutes, max army clash every single game?

Ganzi vs Leenock GSL august, epic series. Ganzi is a tip top macro player. Watch MLG Anaheim and see his destroy players like Ret.
TheSubtleArt
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada2527 Posts
December 19 2011 19:01 GMT
#100
Lol Clide, Puzzle, Ganzi oO...Slayers didn't fuck around this time.
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