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Contrary to popular belief Stephano is not from the States, any mindless spam asserting otherwise after this time (19:48 KST/ 5:48 AM EST/ 10:48 GMT) will meet a moderator response. We have enough confusing spam posting in LR threads these days. Lets try to keep the love for everyone's favourite French zerg reasonable.

And as always:
- No player bashing.
- No caster bashing.
- No balance whining.

Enjoy the games.
Yoshi Kirishima
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States10366 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-12 08:22:58
December 12 2011 08:22 GMT
#561
On December 12 2011 16:56 Asha` wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2011 16:54 Yoshi Kirishima wrote:
On December 12 2011 16:52 Asha` wrote:
On December 12 2011 16:51 Yoshi Kirishima wrote:
On December 12 2011 16:48 HappyChris wrote:
On December 12 2011 16:46 Zanno wrote:
On December 12 2011 16:43 Big J wrote:
MVP vs HerO!!!!!!!
Gonna be legen.... WAIT FOR IT!
it will be a legendary roflstomp

i do not see how hero can even scratch mvp. hero vs. puma is a very even match right now, and mvp is exponentially stronger than puma


We thought the same when MMA faced MVP in the GSL final everyone thought MVP would have this easy. But you never know and thats why I love starcraft:D


But MMA's beaten MVP before a few times, and I believed MMA would win that. Hero on the other hand, i do not think he has beaten nor even matched with MVP yet has he?


They've played 5 times, MVP leads 4-1


Are you talking about matches? even if MVP won more matches, MMA has still been able to take off a good number of games off MVP to be considered to be a "worthy" opponent. And I think MMA 4-1'd MVP or something in that GSPA tourny, even if it's not that important. So even if MVP is better their skills (judged by performances) seemed close enough that it would be a decent match.


Nah, I was referring to the MVP vs HerO part of your post. Sorry, I trimmed the quote to make that clearer.


oh kk that makes a lot more sense :D

sorry myself, i didn't read carefully ^^;
Mid-master streaming MECH ONLY + commentary www.twitch.tv/yoshikirishima +++ "If all-in fails, all-in again."
dcemuser
Profile Joined August 2010
United States3248 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-12 08:28:42
December 12 2011 08:28 GMT
#562
When Stephano or MVP or whoever loses, let's guess the blame:

Jet lag
Map balance
Bo1 (even though it is 4 games)
Race imba
Matchup imba
Not enough time to practice
Groups too big
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-12 08:29:41
December 12 2011 08:29 GMT
#563
On December 12 2011 17:28 dcemuser wrote:
When Stephano or MVP or whoever loses, let's guess the blame:

Jet lag
Map balance
Bo1 (even though it is 4 games)
Race imba
Matchup imba
Not enough time to practice
Groups too big


Don't forget "He just didn't care" lololol or "its not GSL so he didn't try".
When I think of something else, something will go here
dapierow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Serbia1316 Posts
December 12 2011 08:29 GMT
#564
On December 12 2011 17:28 dcemuser wrote:
When Stephano or MVP or whoever loses, let's guess the blame:

Jet lag
Map balance
Bo1 (even though it is 4 games)
Race imba
Matchup imba
Not enough time to practice
Groups too big


Get out of here with your trolling, we all know this only applies to IdrA.
Eat.Sleep.Starcraft 2
gruff
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden2276 Posts
December 12 2011 08:29 GMT
#565
On December 12 2011 17:17 HappyChris wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2011 17:12 Zanno wrote:
On December 12 2011 17:10 dcemuser wrote:
On December 12 2011 17:08 Zanno wrote:
On December 12 2011 17:03 ch33psh33p wrote:
MVP is 4-1 against HerO all time, including rolling him at Providence.

Lets not get too overeager here.

results speak for themselves

Exhibit A:
http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/details.php?section=sc2-korean&type=players&id=590&part=games&vs=all&league=any&map=481&from_year=2010&from_month=10&from_day=21&to_year=2011&to_month=11&to_day=28&action=Update

Exhibit B:
http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/details.php?section=sc2-international&type=players&id=590&part=games&vs=all&league=any&map=481&from_year=2011&from_month=3&from_day=26&to_year=2011&to_month=12&to_day=11&action=Update

Antiga is a map MVP doesn't lose on


Ouch... 13-1 on Antiga.

yup

If it was a different map, I would put Hero's chances above 0%

But I thought everyone has figured out Antiga is a very terran favored map by now, so I'm not sure why anyone thinks this match will be close

I think Stephano's chance of getting 3rd in this group are good, but I don't see any way he can beat MVP on Shakuras either. Can't just look at players, need to look at maps too.


I agree with you on that, no way MVP losses on that map to Stephano we all saw what he did to Nestea at blizzcon. I also think Hero vs Stephano gonna be a lose for Stephano. Hero looks so damm great in that matchup atm. It all comes down to his match vs DRG and MC if he can win those 2. his record will be 2-2 and then I think he will go further


If I'm thinking of the same game, I don't feel that game was unwinnable for Nestea.
Thinasy
Profile Joined March 2011
2856 Posts
December 12 2011 08:32 GMT
#566
On December 12 2011 17:28 dcemuser wrote:
When Stephano or MVP or whoever loses, let's guess the blame:

Jet lag
Map balance
Bo1 (even though it is 4 games)
Race imba
Matchup imba
Not enough time to practice
Groups too big


Why do you care exactly?
Jaedong & Faker
DSDSDS
Profile Joined December 2011
Burma18 Posts
December 12 2011 08:32 GMT
#567
my guess:

1st --MC
2nd-Stephano
3rd-Dongraegu
4th-HerO
5th-MVP

ye...terran must die
michielbrands
Profile Joined June 2011
Netherlands1146 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-12 08:46:24
December 12 2011 08:33 GMT
#568
My predictions

IMMVP <Bel'Shir Beach Winter> oGs.SK.MC
MVP is so sick, saw him once again dominate on WCG, the traveling will affect him obviously, It isn't possible it won't but still he should be able to take down MC.
liquid'HerO <Daybreak> M|Stephano
Both these players are so unique and talented, however I think HerO's style suits perfectly to Stephano's style. His aggresive style will give Stephano loads of problems.
IMMVP <Tal'Darim Altar LE> coL.MvP.DongRaeGu
DRG is and stays a beast in ZvT, MVP can't be in topshape, it's best of 1, taken all these things is consideration DRG takes this match.
oGs.SK.MC <Calm Before the Storm> liquid'HerO
MC's mirror match is great, HerO and MC trained a lot together, however I think MC is just a little better in mirror match.
M|Stephano <Crossfire SE 1.1> coL.MvP.DongRaeGu
Stephano in ZvZ is a class apart, he got this without a doubt.
liquid'HerO <Antiga Shipyard 1.1> IMMVP
This game HerO gonna show how PvT has to be played, we all have seen games of him against PuMa on both dreamhack & NASL, now he has gotten the time to prepare for blizzcup and I am sure he will not disappoint us.
M|Stephano <Dual Sight 1.1> oGs.SK.MC
Stephano will (ab)use his mutalisk like crazy, and even tough MC got great blink stalker control, it won't be enough. this game will be Stephano's.
liquid'HerO <Shakuras Plateau 2.0> coL.MvP.DongRaeGu
HerO's PvZ is from another world, DRG's ZvP hasn't impressed me that mauch so far, HerO will take this (with ease).
M|Stephano <Shakuras Plateau 2.0> IMMVP
MVP has to win this match will he be able to make it through the next round.... so he does, everything is on stake this game, and then we will see the best and scariest MVP there is.
oGs.SK.MC <Crossfire SE 1.1> coL.MvP.DongRaeGu
MC's PvZ is pretty decent, DRG's ZvP isn's that impressive, conclussion: MC wins

1. liquid'HerO
2. IMMVP
3. M|Stephano
4. oGs.SK.MC
5. coL.MvP.DongRaeGu

So actually I think MVP, Stephano & MC all tie with 2 wins, however MC does lose to both Stephano & MVP so he is out, MVP beats Stephano so, Stephano 3, MVP 2.

- me (L) competitive gaming -
Chytilova
Profile Joined December 2011
United States790 Posts
December 12 2011 08:33 GMT
#569
On December 12 2011 17:28 dcemuser wrote:
When Stephano or MVP or whoever loses, let's guess the blame:

Jet lag
Map balance
Bo1 (even though it is 4 games)
Race imba
Matchup imba
Not enough time to practice
Groups too big


My top 3 are Map balance, Bo1 and not enough time to practice in that order.

People who race and match-up whine usually don't stay up for first rounds of GSL events.
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
December 12 2011 08:34 GMT
#570
I don't think MVP will win on belshir against MC. MVP's strongest strength is being able to metagame with 1/1/1 but he doesn't have that advantage on that map and it'll probably be a drawn out bio vs. deathball game which is exactly what MC wants.
HappyChris
Profile Joined October 2011
1534 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-12 08:35:38
December 12 2011 08:34 GMT
#571
On December 12 2011 17:28 dcemuser wrote:
When Stephano or MVP or whoever loses, let's guess the blame:

Jet lag
Map balance
Bo1 (even though it is 4 games)
Race imba
Matchup imba
Not enough time to practice
Groups too big


When stephano wins, Let´s guess the blame

Korean´s are jetlagged.
Bo1 means nothing.
Stephano got lucky with his unsually style that will get figured out eventually.
Good maps for stephano.
MVP are tired after WCG

:D


archonOOid
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
1983 Posts
December 12 2011 08:35 GMT
#572
I'm psyched.
I'm Quotable (IQ)
W2
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States1177 Posts
December 12 2011 08:35 GMT
#573
1. Hero
2. Mvp
3. DongRaeGu
4. MC
5. Stephano
Hi
Giriath
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden2412 Posts
December 12 2011 08:35 GMT
#574
It puzzles me that many of you think Stephano will do better than MC and DRG.
Education should be our seniors guiding us to be "who" we want to be, not "what" we want to be.
Hydroxyl
Profile Joined December 2011
206 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-12 08:36:29
December 12 2011 08:35 GMT
#575
On December 12 2011 17:29 gruff wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2011 17:17 HappyChris wrote:
On December 12 2011 17:12 Zanno wrote:
On December 12 2011 17:10 dcemuser wrote:
On December 12 2011 17:08 Zanno wrote:
On December 12 2011 17:03 ch33psh33p wrote:
MVP is 4-1 against HerO all time, including rolling him at Providence.

Lets not get too overeager here.

results speak for themselves

Exhibit A:
http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/details.php?section=sc2-korean&type=players&id=590&part=games&vs=all&league=any&map=481&from_year=2010&from_month=10&from_day=21&to_year=2011&to_month=11&to_day=28&action=Update

Exhibit B:
http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/details.php?section=sc2-international&type=players&id=590&part=games&vs=all&league=any&map=481&from_year=2011&from_month=3&from_day=26&to_year=2011&to_month=12&to_day=11&action=Update

Antiga is a map MVP doesn't lose on


Ouch... 13-1 on Antiga.

yup

If it was a different map, I would put Hero's chances above 0%

But I thought everyone has figured out Antiga is a very terran favored map by now, so I'm not sure why anyone thinks this match will be close

I think Stephano's chance of getting 3rd in this group are good, but I don't see any way he can beat MVP on Shakuras either. Can't just look at players, need to look at maps too.


I agree with you on that, no way MVP losses on that map to Stephano we all saw what he did to Nestea at blizzcon. I also think Hero vs Stephano gonna be a lose for Stephano. Hero looks so damm great in that matchup atm. It all comes down to his match vs DRG and MC if he can win those 2. his record will be 2-2 and then I think he will go further


If I'm thinking of the same game, I don't feel that game was unwinnable for Nestea.


For the record, MVP lost to Nestea on shakuras in the brackets at blizzcon, and with the finals played on shakuras having Nestea on a huge lead all game long, I wouldn't say the same either.
CaptainTwig
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom532 Posts
December 12 2011 08:35 GMT
#576
OP says tastosis are casting. Looks like it's actually wolf and someone else.

wolfs twitter; http://twitter.com/#!/ProxyWolf/status/146080375930753024
Onlinejaguar
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia2823 Posts
December 12 2011 08:37 GMT
#577
On December 12 2011 17:35 CaptainTwig wrote:
OP says tastosis are casting. Looks like it's actually wolf and someone else.

wolfs twitter; http://twitter.com/#!/ProxyWolf/status/146080375930753024


I hope its with Khaldor.
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
December 12 2011 08:37 GMT
#578
On December 12 2011 17:37 Onlinejaguar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2011 17:35 CaptainTwig wrote:
OP says tastosis are casting. Looks like it's actually wolf and someone else.

wolfs twitter; http://twitter.com/#!/ProxyWolf/status/146080375930753024


I hope its with Khaldor.


It is, Khaldor posted that in this thread to
When I think of something else, something will go here
red4ce
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States7313 Posts
December 12 2011 08:38 GMT
#579
On December 12 2011 17:28 dcemuser wrote:
When Stephano or MVP or whoever loses, let's guess the blame:

Jet lag
Map balance
Bo1 (even though it is 4 games)
Race imba
Matchup imba
Not enough time to practice
Groups too big


A lot of these are valid detriments to performance.
FryktSkyene
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1327 Posts
December 12 2011 08:38 GMT
#580
I reallllllly don't want him to but I don't see MVP getting anything less than 1st in this group the guy is just insanse and coming off a wcg win won't hurt at all.
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