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- No caster bashing.
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On December 12 2011 16:52 dapierow wrote:Show nested quote +On December 12 2011 16:46 Zanno wrote:On December 12 2011 16:43 Big J wrote:
MVP vs HerO!!!!!!!
Gonna be legen.... WAIT FOR IT! it will be a legendary roflstomp i do not see how hero can even scratch mvp. hero vs. puma is a very even match right now, and mvp is exponentially stronger than puma You cannot say it will be a Rofl stomp, Who were the last 2 good Toss's that Mvp lost to? Naniwa(2 out of 2 sets) and MC(1 out of 2 sets), Hero is on both of their levels. It will be a good game.
I regard Naniwa as the real wildcard in this whole event
Part of me believes that MVP got slightly arrogant, and spent more time preparing for Nestea than he did for Naniwa
But I could be completely wrong, and maybe Naniwa is more dangerous than I think
But hey, lets just ignore that MVP is presently undefeated vs protoss on Antiga
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On December 12 2011 16:46 Zanno wrote:Show nested quote +On December 12 2011 16:43 Big J wrote:
MVP vs HerO!!!!!!!
Gonna be legen.... WAIT FOR IT! it will be a legendary roflstomp i do not see how hero can even scratch mvp. hero vs. puma is a very even match right now, and mvp is exponentially stronger than puma
MVP and the current TvP stats are not known to be favored Vs protoss
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MVP is 4-1 against HerO all time, including rolling him at Providence.
Lets not get too overeager here.
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On December 12 2011 13:23 Olinimm wrote:Well the foreigners can't win GSL, but at least if they have a bad hair competition the foreigners will win that ^.^
I like how MMA and Polt are glaring at each other from the farthest possible distance between them.
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On December 12 2011 17:04 Fionn wrote:Show nested quote +On December 12 2011 13:23 Olinimm wrote:On December 12 2011 13:21 SarcasmMonster wrote:![[image loading]](http://s1-05.twitpicproxy.com/photos/large/470604698.jpg) Well the foreigners can't win GSL, but at least if they have a bad hair competition the foreigners will win that ^.^ I like how MMA and Polt are glaring at each other from the farthest possible distance between them.
Haha, Stephano hair allways totally insane
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On December 12 2011 16:56 HappyChris wrote:Show nested quote +On December 12 2011 16:53 Za7oX wrote:On December 12 2011 16:52 dapierow wrote:On December 12 2011 16:46 Zanno wrote:On December 12 2011 16:43 Big J wrote:
MVP vs HerO!!!!!!!
Gonna be legen.... WAIT FOR IT! it will be a legendary roflstomp i do not see how hero can even scratch mvp. hero vs. puma is a very even match right now, and mvp is exponentially stronger than puma You cannot say it will be a Rofl stomp, Who were the last 2 good Toss's that Mvp lost to? Naniwa(2 out of 2 sets) and MC(1 out of 2 sets), Hero is on both of their levels. It will be a good game. I think dBLing took a game off him at WCG too 1 map means nothing we allways have to take a large number of games before you can validate a players current form
It shows that he may have a weakness in that matchup if he dropped a game to a player not even on the same skill level of say HerO or MC
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MMA is going to win the whole thing.
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Ouch... 13-1 on Antiga.
Could be coincidence but that is more data than most players have about certain maps.
On December 12 2011 17:07 Za7oX wrote:Show nested quote +On December 12 2011 16:56 HappyChris wrote:On December 12 2011 16:53 Za7oX wrote:On December 12 2011 16:52 dapierow wrote:On December 12 2011 16:46 Zanno wrote:On December 12 2011 16:43 Big J wrote:
MVP vs HerO!!!!!!!
Gonna be legen.... WAIT FOR IT! it will be a legendary roflstomp i do not see how hero can even scratch mvp. hero vs. puma is a very even match right now, and mvp is exponentially stronger than puma You cannot say it will be a Rofl stomp, Who were the last 2 good Toss's that Mvp lost to? Naniwa(2 out of 2 sets) and MC(1 out of 2 sets), Hero is on both of their levels. It will be a good game. I think dBLing took a game off him at WCG too 1 map means nothing we allways have to take a large number of games before you can validate a players current form It shows that he may have a weakness in that matchup if he dropped a game to a player not even on the same skill level of say HerO or MC
No, one game as an isolated event really doesn't even say that much. It really doesn't mean absolutely anything (and I'm not even a big MVP fan).
People need to stop taking small amounts of data and making conclusions.
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On December 12 2011 17:00 Zanno wrote:Show nested quote +On December 12 2011 16:52 dapierow wrote:On December 12 2011 16:46 Zanno wrote:On December 12 2011 16:43 Big J wrote:
MVP vs HerO!!!!!!!
Gonna be legen.... WAIT FOR IT! it will be a legendary roflstomp i do not see how hero can even scratch mvp. hero vs. puma is a very even match right now, and mvp is exponentially stronger than puma You cannot say it will be a Rofl stomp, Who were the last 2 good Toss's that Mvp lost to? Naniwa(2 out of 2 sets) and MC(1 out of 2 sets), Hero is on both of their levels. It will be a good game. I regard Naniwa as the real wildcard in this whole event Part of me believes that MVP got slightly arrogant, and spent more time preparing for Nestea than he did for Naniwa But I could be completely wrong, and maybe Naniwa is more dangerous than I think But hey, lets just ignore that MVP is presently undefeated vs protoss on Antiga
On December 12 2011 17:09 Asmodeusz wrote:
MMA is going to win the whole thing.
Save this discussion for group B XD
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On December 12 2011 17:10 dcemuser wrote:Ouch... 13-1 on Antiga.
yup
If it was a different map, I would put Hero's chances above 0%
But I thought everyone has figured out Antiga is a very terran favored map by now, so I'm not sure why anyone thinks this match will be close
I think Stephano's chance of getting 3rd in this group are good, but I don't see any way he can beat MVP on Shakuras either. Can't just look at players, need to look at maps too.
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My predictions
MVP <Bel'Shir Beach Winter> MC
hero <Daybreak> Stephano
MVP <Tal'Darim Altar LE> DongRaeGu
MC <Calm Before the Storm> hero
Stephano <Crossfire SE 1.1> DongRaeGu
hero <Antiga Shipyard 1.1> MVP
Stephano <Dual Sight 1.1> MC
hero <Shakuras Plateau 2.0> DongRaeGu
Stephano <Shakuras Plateau 2.0> MVP
MC <Crossfire SE 1.1> DongRaeGu
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On December 12 2011 17:12 Zanno wrote:yup If it was a different map, I would put Hero's chances above 0% But I thought everyone has figured out Antiga is a very terran favored map by now, so I'm not sure why anyone thinks this match will be close I think Stephano's chance of getting 3rd in this group are good, but I don't see any way he can beat MVP on Shakuras either. Can't just look at players, need to look at maps too.
I agree with you on that, no way MVP losses on that map to Stephano we all saw what he did to Nestea at blizzcon. I also think Hero vs Stephano gonna be a lose for Stephano. Hero looks so damm great in that matchup atm. It all comes down to his match vs DRG and MC if he can win those 2. his record will be 2-2 and then I think he will go further
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MVP 1st
DongRaeGu 2nd
Stephano 3rd
Hero 4th
MC 5th
as much as i love MC.. 
people are seriously doubting DRG...
GOGO MMA (tomorrow)
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On December 12 2011 17:17 HappyChris wrote:Show nested quote +On December 12 2011 17:12 Zanno wrote:On December 12 2011 17:10 dcemuser wrote:Ouch... 13-1 on Antiga. yup If it was a different map, I would put Hero's chances above 0% But I thought everyone has figured out Antiga is a very terran favored map by now, so I'm not sure why anyone thinks this match will be close I think Stephano's chance of getting 3rd in this group are good, but I don't see any way he can beat MVP on Shakuras either. Can't just look at players, need to look at maps too. I agree with you on that, no way MVP losses on that map to Stephano we all saw what he did to Nestea at blizzcon. I also think Hero vs Stephano gonna be a lose for Stephano. Hero looks so damm great in that matchup atm. It all comes down to his match vs DRG and MC if he can win those 2. his record will be 2-2 and then I think he will go further
What Nestea did to himself is more like it :/
But yea don't see Stephano winning
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On December 12 2011 16:52 Za7oX wrote:Show nested quote +On December 12 2011 16:33 nakedsurfer wrote:
I don't see MVP getting out of this group alive and if he does it'll be third. Only reason being his very worst matchup is tvp and I'd be surprised if he won against mc andor hero. he will really need to beat the 2 zergs but that'll be tough since I think he'll absolutely need to win vs them. If he does get through though then I think he'll win the whole thing.
1- Hero
2- Stephano (I think this'll be more due to his unique playstyle but he is still extremely skilled)
3- DRG
4- mvp
5-MC
weird how no matter how you do it amazing players will probably end up on the bottom Sick of people saying that....
I only say that because i put him in second or else he'd be 3rd or 4th not 5th getting owned. Even if people knew his playstyle more he'd still do very well But I think he'll do even better just because he's unique so thats no reason to get all pissy.
And to people saying MVP will own, tvp is his worst match-up and not too long ago became code A because of it. People hype up MVP so much since he wins GSL a lot. He is an amazing player But GSL is mostly terran(His TvT almost untouchable) as you all know and his TvZ is still greatness but his TvP will still be lacking a lot because he hasn't been able to practice it since WCG and he has 2 to play against amazing protoss'.
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Remember page 28 guys, this is when dapierow told you that DRG will place 1st in this group.
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1st: MVP
2nd: MC
3rd: Hero
4th: DRG
5th: Stephano
I doubt MVP will have too many issues taking first in this group, the only problem would be his weakness in the TvP match up. Seeing as this is Bo1, I feel if MC hits his random timings that seem to work for him and him alone when he is on his "A" game, he can snag second place. Hero looks pretty good as of late, but that is really only against foreigners at recent events (NASL/Dreamhack). DRG is always a big wildcard like MC in my opinion. Sometimes he looks pretty good, other times he is just kind of eh. Finally Stephano, while he won a tourney here and there as of late, he has never had to face off against top tier Korean players, and even though this is Bo1, this tourney should show his ability in the GSL setting of being able to prepare for certain players and what not. But going back to his lack of experience against top Koreans, I feel he will fall in some close games.
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The players having all crazy skills and given that it is BO1, I guess map balance will be a very big factor.
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