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Contrary to popular belief Stephano is not from the States, any mindless spam asserting otherwise after this time (19:48 KST/ 5:48 AM EST/ 10:48 GMT) will meet a moderator response. We have enough confusing spam posting in LR threads these days. Lets try to keep the love for everyone's favourite French zerg reasonable.

And as always:
- No player bashing.
- No caster bashing.
- No balance whining.

Enjoy the games.
Zanno
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
United States1484 Posts
December 12 2011 08:00 GMT
#541
On December 12 2011 16:52 dapierow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2011 16:46 Zanno wrote:
On December 12 2011 16:43 Big J wrote:
MVP vs HerO!!!!!!!
Gonna be legen.... WAIT FOR IT!
it will be a legendary roflstomp

i do not see how hero can even scratch mvp. hero vs. puma is a very even match right now, and mvp is exponentially stronger than puma


You cannot say it will be a Rofl stomp, Who were the last 2 good Toss's that Mvp lost to? Naniwa(2 out of 2 sets) and MC(1 out of 2 sets), Hero is on both of their levels. It will be a good game.

I regard Naniwa as the real wildcard in this whole event

Part of me believes that MVP got slightly arrogant, and spent more time preparing for Nestea than he did for Naniwa

But I could be completely wrong, and maybe Naniwa is more dangerous than I think

But hey, lets just ignore that MVP is presently undefeated vs protoss on Antiga
aaaaa
Bumblebee
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
3237 Posts
December 12 2011 08:00 GMT
#542
HerO, HerO, HerO!
There is no difference between a knight and any other man aside from what he wears. @robinnymann
Big J
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria16289 Posts
December 12 2011 08:02 GMT
#543
On December 12 2011 16:46 Zanno wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2011 16:43 Big J wrote:
MVP vs HerO!!!!!!!
Gonna be legen.... WAIT FOR IT!
it will be a
legendary roflstomp

i do not see how hero can even scratch mvp. hero vs. puma is a very even match right now, and mvp is exponentially stronger than puma

MVP and the current TvP stats are not known to be favored Vs protoss
ch33psh33p
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
7650 Posts
December 12 2011 08:03 GMT
#544
MVP is 4-1 against HerO all time, including rolling him at Providence.

Lets not get too overeager here.
secret - never again
Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
December 12 2011 08:04 GMT
#545
On December 12 2011 13:23 Olinimm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2011 13:21 SarcasmMonster wrote:
[image loading]

Well the foreigners can't win GSL, but at least if they have a bad hair competition the foreigners will win that ^.^


I like how MMA and Polt are glaring at each other from the farthest possible distance between them.
Writerhttps://twitter.com/FionnOnFire
HappyChris
Profile Joined October 2011
1534 Posts
December 12 2011 08:05 GMT
#546
On December 12 2011 17:04 Fionn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2011 13:23 Olinimm wrote:
On December 12 2011 13:21 SarcasmMonster wrote:
[image loading]

Well the foreigners can't win GSL, but at least if they have a bad hair competition the foreigners will win that ^.^


I like how MMA and Polt are glaring at each other from the farthest possible distance between them.


Haha, Stephano hair allways totally insane
PresenceSc2
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia4032 Posts
December 12 2011 08:07 GMT
#547
On December 12 2011 16:56 HappyChris wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2011 16:53 Za7oX wrote:
On December 12 2011 16:52 dapierow wrote:
On December 12 2011 16:46 Zanno wrote:
On December 12 2011 16:43 Big J wrote:
MVP vs HerO!!!!!!!
Gonna be legen.... WAIT FOR IT!
it will be a legendary roflstomp

i do not see how hero can even scratch mvp. hero vs. puma is a very even match right now, and mvp is exponentially stronger than puma


You cannot say it will be a Rofl stomp, Who were the last 2 good Toss's that Mvp lost to? Naniwa(2 out of 2 sets) and MC(1 out of 2 sets), Hero is on both of their levels. It will be a good game.


I think dBLing took a game off him at WCG too


1 map means nothing we allways have to take a large number of games before you can validate a players current form


It shows that he may have a weakness in that matchup if he dropped a game to a player not even on the same skill level of say HerO or MC
Stephano//HerO//TaeJa//Squirtle//Bomber
Zanno
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
United States1484 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-12 08:11:26
December 12 2011 08:08 GMT
#548
On December 12 2011 17:03 ch33psh33p wrote:
MVP is 4-1 against HerO all time, including rolling him at Providence.

Lets not get too overeager here.

results speak for themselves

Exhibit A:
http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/details.php?section=sc2-korean&type=players&id=590&part=games&vs=all&league=any&map=481&from_year=2010&from_month=10&from_day=21&to_year=2011&to_month=11&to_day=28&action=Update

Exhibit B:
http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/details.php?section=sc2-international&type=players&id=590&part=games&vs=all&league=any&map=481&from_year=2011&from_month=3&from_day=26&to_year=2011&to_month=12&to_day=11&action=Update

Antiga is a map MVP doesn't lose on
aaaaa
Asmodeusz
Profile Joined August 2011
193 Posts
December 12 2011 08:09 GMT
#549
MMA is going to win the whole thing.
dcemuser
Profile Joined August 2010
United States3248 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-12 08:12:27
December 12 2011 08:10 GMT
#550
On December 12 2011 17:08 Zanno wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2011 17:03 ch33psh33p wrote:
MVP is 4-1 against HerO all time, including rolling him at Providence.

Lets not get too overeager here.

results speak for themselves

Exhibit A:
http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/details.php?section=sc2-korean&type=players&id=590&part=games&vs=all&league=any&map=481&from_year=2010&from_month=10&from_day=21&to_year=2011&to_month=11&to_day=28&action=Update

Exhibit B:
http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/details.php?section=sc2-international&type=players&id=590&part=games&vs=all&league=any&map=481&from_year=2011&from_month=3&from_day=26&to_year=2011&to_month=12&to_day=11&action=Update

Antiga is a map MVP doesn't lose on


Ouch... 13-1 on Antiga.

Could be coincidence but that is more data than most players have about certain maps.

On December 12 2011 17:07 Za7oX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2011 16:56 HappyChris wrote:
On December 12 2011 16:53 Za7oX wrote:
On December 12 2011 16:52 dapierow wrote:
On December 12 2011 16:46 Zanno wrote:
On December 12 2011 16:43 Big J wrote:
MVP vs HerO!!!!!!!
Gonna be legen.... WAIT FOR IT!
it will be a legendary roflstomp

i do not see how hero can even scratch mvp. hero vs. puma is a very even match right now, and mvp is exponentially stronger than puma


You cannot say it will be a Rofl stomp, Who were the last 2 good Toss's that Mvp lost to? Naniwa(2 out of 2 sets) and MC(1 out of 2 sets), Hero is on both of their levels. It will be a good game.


I think dBLing took a game off him at WCG too


1 map means nothing we allways have to take a large number of games before you can validate a players current form


It shows that he may have a weakness in that matchup if he dropped a game to a player not even on the same skill level of say HerO or MC


No, one game as an isolated event really doesn't even say that much. It really doesn't mean absolutely anything (and I'm not even a big MVP fan).

People need to stop taking small amounts of data and making conclusions.
dapierow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Serbia1316 Posts
December 12 2011 08:12 GMT
#551
On December 12 2011 17:00 Zanno wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2011 16:52 dapierow wrote:
On December 12 2011 16:46 Zanno wrote:
On December 12 2011 16:43 Big J wrote:
MVP vs HerO!!!!!!!
Gonna be legen.... WAIT FOR IT!
it will be a legendary roflstomp

i do not see how hero can even scratch mvp. hero vs. puma is a very even match right now, and mvp is exponentially stronger than puma


You cannot say it will be a Rofl stomp, Who were the last 2 good Toss's that Mvp lost to? Naniwa(2 out of 2 sets) and MC(1 out of 2 sets), Hero is on both of their levels. It will be a good game.

I regard Naniwa as the real wildcard in this whole event

Part of me believes that MVP got slightly arrogant, and spent more time preparing for Nestea than he did for Naniwa

But I could be completely wrong, and maybe Naniwa is more dangerous than I think

But hey, lets just ignore that MVP is presently undefeated vs protoss on Antiga


On December 12 2011 17:09 Asmodeusz wrote:
MMA is going to win the whole thing.



Save this discussion for group B XD
Eat.Sleep.Starcraft 2
Zanno
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
United States1484 Posts
December 12 2011 08:12 GMT
#552
On December 12 2011 17:10 dcemuser wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2011 17:08 Zanno wrote:
On December 12 2011 17:03 ch33psh33p wrote:
MVP is 4-1 against HerO all time, including rolling him at Providence.

Lets not get too overeager here.

results speak for themselves

Exhibit A:
http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/details.php?section=sc2-korean&type=players&id=590&part=games&vs=all&league=any&map=481&from_year=2010&from_month=10&from_day=21&to_year=2011&to_month=11&to_day=28&action=Update

Exhibit B:
http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/details.php?section=sc2-international&type=players&id=590&part=games&vs=all&league=any&map=481&from_year=2011&from_month=3&from_day=26&to_year=2011&to_month=12&to_day=11&action=Update

Antiga is a map MVP doesn't lose on


Ouch... 13-1 on Antiga.

yup

If it was a different map, I would put Hero's chances above 0%

But I thought everyone has figured out Antiga is a very terran favored map by now, so I'm not sure why anyone thinks this match will be close

I think Stephano's chance of getting 3rd in this group are good, but I don't see any way he can beat MVP on Shakuras either. Can't just look at players, need to look at maps too.
aaaaa
jinixxx123
Profile Joined June 2010
543 Posts
December 12 2011 08:14 GMT
#553
My predictions


MVP <Bel'Shir Beach Winter> MC
hero <Daybreak> Stephano
MVP <Tal'Darim Altar LE> DongRaeGu
MC <Calm Before the Storm> hero
Stephano <Crossfire SE 1.1> DongRaeGu
hero <Antiga Shipyard 1.1> MVP
Stephano <Dual Sight 1.1> MC
hero <Shakuras Plateau 2.0> DongRaeGu
Stephano <Shakuras Plateau 2.0> MVP
MC <Crossfire SE 1.1> DongRaeGu
HappyChris
Profile Joined October 2011
1534 Posts
December 12 2011 08:17 GMT
#554
On December 12 2011 17:12 Zanno wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2011 17:10 dcemuser wrote:
On December 12 2011 17:08 Zanno wrote:
On December 12 2011 17:03 ch33psh33p wrote:
MVP is 4-1 against HerO all time, including rolling him at Providence.

Lets not get too overeager here.

results speak for themselves

Exhibit A:
http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/details.php?section=sc2-korean&type=players&id=590&part=games&vs=all&league=any&map=481&from_year=2010&from_month=10&from_day=21&to_year=2011&to_month=11&to_day=28&action=Update

Exhibit B:
http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/details.php?section=sc2-international&type=players&id=590&part=games&vs=all&league=any&map=481&from_year=2011&from_month=3&from_day=26&to_year=2011&to_month=12&to_day=11&action=Update

Antiga is a map MVP doesn't lose on


Ouch... 13-1 on Antiga.

yup

If it was a different map, I would put Hero's chances above 0%

But I thought everyone has figured out Antiga is a very terran favored map by now, so I'm not sure why anyone thinks this match will be close

I think Stephano's chance of getting 3rd in this group are good, but I don't see any way he can beat MVP on Shakuras either. Can't just look at players, need to look at maps too.


I agree with you on that, no way MVP losses on that map to Stephano we all saw what he did to Nestea at blizzcon. I also think Hero vs Stephano gonna be a lose for Stephano. Hero looks so damm great in that matchup atm. It all comes down to his match vs DRG and MC if he can win those 2. his record will be 2-2 and then I think he will go further
SpecFire
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1681 Posts
December 12 2011 08:17 GMT
#555
MVP 1st
DongRaeGu 2nd
Stephano 3rd
Hero 4th
MC 5th

as much as i love MC..

people are seriously doubting DRG...

GOGO MMA (tomorrow)
•|SlayerS_MMA| • Ryung • Fin • Puzzle •
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
December 12 2011 08:18 GMT
#556
On December 12 2011 17:17 HappyChris wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2011 17:12 Zanno wrote:
On December 12 2011 17:10 dcemuser wrote:
On December 12 2011 17:08 Zanno wrote:
On December 12 2011 17:03 ch33psh33p wrote:
MVP is 4-1 against HerO all time, including rolling him at Providence.

Lets not get too overeager here.

results speak for themselves

Exhibit A:
http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/details.php?section=sc2-korean&type=players&id=590&part=games&vs=all&league=any&map=481&from_year=2010&from_month=10&from_day=21&to_year=2011&to_month=11&to_day=28&action=Update

Exhibit B:
http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/details.php?section=sc2-international&type=players&id=590&part=games&vs=all&league=any&map=481&from_year=2011&from_month=3&from_day=26&to_year=2011&to_month=12&to_day=11&action=Update

Antiga is a map MVP doesn't lose on


Ouch... 13-1 on Antiga.

yup

If it was a different map, I would put Hero's chances above 0%

But I thought everyone has figured out Antiga is a very terran favored map by now, so I'm not sure why anyone thinks this match will be close

I think Stephano's chance of getting 3rd in this group are good, but I don't see any way he can beat MVP on Shakuras either. Can't just look at players, need to look at maps too.


I agree with you on that, no way MVP losses on that map to Stephano we all saw what he did to Nestea at blizzcon. I also think Hero vs Stephano gonna be a lose for Stephano. Hero looks so damm great in that matchup atm. It all comes down to his match vs DRG and MC if he can win those 2. his record will be 2-2 and then I think he will go further


What Nestea did to himself is more like it :/

But yea don't see Stephano winning
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nakedsurfer
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada500 Posts
December 12 2011 08:18 GMT
#557
On December 12 2011 16:52 Za7oX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2011 16:33 nakedsurfer wrote:
I don't see MVP getting out of this group alive and if he does it'll be third. Only reason being his very worst matchup is tvp and I'd be surprised if he won against mc andor hero. he will really need to beat the 2 zergs but that'll be tough since I think he'll absolutely need to win vs them. If he does get through though then I think he'll win the whole thing.

1- Hero
2- Stephano (I think this'll be more due to his unique playstyle but he is still extremely skilled)
3- DRG
4- mvp
5-MC

weird how no matter how you do it amazing players will probably end up on the bottom


Sick of people saying that....


I only say that because i put him in second or else he'd be 3rd or 4th not 5th getting owned. Even if people knew his playstyle more he'd still do very well But I think he'll do even better just because he's unique so thats no reason to get all pissy.

And to people saying MVP will own, tvp is his worst match-up and not too long ago became code A because of it. People hype up MVP so much since he wins GSL a lot. He is an amazing player But GSL is mostly terran(His TvT almost untouchable) as you all know and his TvZ is still greatness but his TvP will still be lacking a lot because he hasn't been able to practice it since WCG and he has 2 to play against amazing protoss'.
Root4Root
dapierow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Serbia1316 Posts
December 12 2011 08:18 GMT
#558
Remember page 28 guys, this is when dapierow told you that DRG will place 1st in this group.
Eat.Sleep.Starcraft 2
Phobbers
Profile Joined May 2011
773 Posts
December 12 2011 08:20 GMT
#559
1st: MVP
2nd: MC
3rd: Hero
4th: DRG
5th: Stephano

I doubt MVP will have too many issues taking first in this group, the only problem would be his weakness in the TvP match up. Seeing as this is Bo1, I feel if MC hits his random timings that seem to work for him and him alone when he is on his "A" game, he can snag second place. Hero looks pretty good as of late, but that is really only against foreigners at recent events (NASL/Dreamhack). DRG is always a big wildcard like MC in my opinion. Sometimes he looks pretty good, other times he is just kind of eh. Finally Stephano, while he won a tourney here and there as of late, he has never had to face off against top tier Korean players, and even though this is Bo1, this tourney should show his ability in the GSL setting of being able to prepare for certain players and what not. But going back to his lack of experience against top Koreans, I feel he will fall in some close games.
EG/C9/ALL/TSM
samurai80
Profile Joined November 2011
Japan4225 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-12 08:22:02
December 12 2011 08:21 GMT
#560
The players having all crazy skills and given that it is BO1, I guess map balance will be a very big factor.
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