When: Wednesday, Dec 07 1:00am GMT (GMT+00:00) (we will also have a European re-broadcast as usual at Wednesday, Dec 07 5:30pm GMT (GMT+00:00))
Format
This double-elimination tournament features 8 teams from around the world and is an All-Kill team format. This match is being played for the Winners Round of 8. The first team to defeat everyone on the opposing team's roster (5 wins, or a best of 9), will move on in the Winners Bracket, while the loser will drop down into the Losers Bracket. Keep in mind that this has a $10,000 prize pool, and only three teams will make it to the money!
Mousesports has a roster full of tournament winners and players that have experience playing in South Korea. Millenium has a solid roster with an incredible anchor in Stephano. This match may likely rest on his shoulders, so we will see if he and his teammates can live up to the pressure. Here are their full rosters:
Mousesports HasuObs MaNa MorroW biGs ThorZaIN HeRoMaRinE
The First Game of the IPL Team Arena Challenge is on Wednesday, Dec 07 1:00am GMT (GMT+00:00) (we will also have a European re-broadcast as usual at Wednesday, Dec 07 5:30pm GMT (GMT+00:00))
Stephano is always sharp, he also happens to be human so sometimes he loses. However he will be in Korea at that time andr Mousesports almost never loses a Clan War. So I'll bet on Mouz. DieStar, LaLuSh and Adelscott are really plagued with irregularity in their games but they are able to beat anyone on Mouz. Feast is really showing his skills lately but he won't make anything decisive. Apparently Tarson decided to retrain for SC 2 so he might play. On Mouz side, everyone of them is on form except biGs and HeroMarine. The latter will be unlikely to have any playing time though.
This is probably the closest MU from all the team games, mouz have a stronger overall team and i would say they would win, but i've just finished watch stephanos stream, he is roflstomping korean GM's Millenium 5-1
Mouz has a better team overall imo, so I think they'll take it. It'll probably be close... unless Millenium can't field a full team again (which I sincerely hope doesn't happen- I'd like to see them play this series out to the end!).
The clan war has already been played like 1 or 2 weeks ago and i think i know the result because llewelys, the millenium manager did a kind of bad spoil on his stream during msi procup. I think that Stephano is a little bit stronger than any mouz player but they are stronger overral and i don't see another Millenium take a map to thorzain or mana. So if stephano is send in first it's either 5-0 or 0-5.
Hmm I think this will be a close one. Mouz doesn't really have anyone who is particularly good against zerg, so taking down Stephano will be interesting, but at the same time I wouldn't be shocked if Stephano also lost to a player like Thorzain or Hasuobs right away. Other than that Millenium still has quite some strong players. It should be a good match, but I am favoring Mouz.
Mouzsports gogo! Also MorroW's TvZ is pretty fantastic, I think he's more than capable of taking out Stephano. Also also hope to see Tarson, haven't seen him play in a while
Millenium all the way; I really like Tarson after seeing him at (where was it again? The tournament where Ret won, I think) Whatever-invitational (?), and Stephano is crazy when he's in good shape, so we'll see. I admit it might get close, however.
Adelscott could snipe Mana and Hasu, while Stephano could take down anyone on Mouz, yet many of the Mouz players could also snipe him down. Hopefully Mill saves Stephano this time rather than throw him out first to get sniped.
5-2 Mouz. There are 3-4 players in Mouz that can easily compete with Stephano even at his best. Adel might be able to take a game from Mana or Hasu but probably not anyone else.
Millennium dosnt really stand too much of a chance. Mouse is the superior team with stronger over all players. Thorzain is better then everyone on Millennium while Hasu, Mana, and Morrow, can pretty much top anyone on millennium off as well
On December 06 2011 06:39 Catatonic wrote: Millennium dosnt really stand too much of a chance. Mouse is the superior team with stronger over all players. Thorzain is better then everyone on Millennium while Hasu, Mana, and Morrow, can pretty much top anyone on millennium off as well
On December 06 2011 06:39 Catatonic wrote: Millennium dosnt really stand too much of a chance. Mouse is the superior team with stronger over all players. Thorzain is better then everyone on Millennium while Hasu, Mana, and Morrow, can pretty much top anyone on millennium off as well
On December 06 2011 06:39 Catatonic wrote: Millennium dosnt really stand too much of a chance. Mouse is the superior team with stronger over all players. Thorzain is better then everyone on Millennium while Hasu, Mana, and Morrow, can pretty much top anyone on millennium off as well
You can't be any more wrong with this post.
Not really. You could make a case for Mana or maybeeee Hasu> Thorzain. Stephano and TZ about equal, assuming recent performances. Don't see anything wrong with it otherwise.
If this was a ProLeague format, then Mouz for sure. But with this format.... Well, if someone kills Stephano and one of either Morrow/Thorzain/Mana lefts to fight on, Mouz will win. Otherwise, Stephano wins it.
Stephano might be the strongest player out of all in these two teams. But I think all of Morrow, Mana, Thorzain and HasuObs have a decent chance of beating him, and except Stephano I'd say none on Millenium is quite at the level of the four Mouz players aforementioned players, and thus I except Mouz to take this.
On December 06 2011 04:21 Otolia wrote: Stephano is always sharp, he also happens to be human so sometimes he loses. However he will be in Korea at that time andr Mousesports almost never loses a Clan War. So I'll bet on Mouz. DieStar, LaLuSh and Adelscott are really plagued with irregularity in their games but they are able to beat anyone on Mouz. Feast is really showing his skills lately but he won't make anything decisive. Apparently Tarson decided to retrain for SC 2 so he might play. On Mouz side, everyone of them is on form except biGs and HeroMarine. The latter will be unlikely to have any playing time though.
I didn't know Millenium was the second best team in the world. Does that mean rage-quitting is what's holding them back?
On December 06 2011 04:21 Otolia wrote: Stephano is always sharp, he also happens to be human so sometimes he loses. However he will be in Korea at that time andr Mousesports almost never loses a Clan War. So I'll bet on Mouz. DieStar, LaLuSh and Adelscott are really plagued with irregularity in their games but they are able to beat anyone on Mouz. Feast is really showing his skills lately but he won't make anything decisive. Apparently Tarson decided to retrain for SC 2 so he might play. On Mouz side, everyone of them is on form except biGs and HeroMarine. The latter will be unlikely to have any playing time though.
I didn't know Millenium was the second best team in the world. Does that mean rage-quitting is what's holding them back?
May I suggest seeing a professional to deal with your latent hate of the Millenium's organization ?
On December 06 2011 04:21 Otolia wrote: Stephano is always sharp, he also happens to be human so sometimes he loses. However he will be in Korea at that time andr Mousesports almost never loses a Clan War. So I'll bet on Mouz. DieStar, LaLuSh and Adelscott are really plagued with irregularity in their games but they are able to beat anyone on Mouz. Feast is really showing his skills lately but he won't make anything decisive. Apparently Tarson decided to retrain for SC 2 so he might play. On Mouz side, everyone of them is on form except biGs and HeroMarine. The latter will be unlikely to have any playing time though.
I didn't know Millenium was the second best team in the world. Does that mean rage-quitting is what's holding them back?
Where does he says Millenium s the second best team ? All he sayed is abolutely right, any Millenium can, more or less, beat any mouz player, that's the game And with the state of ZvZ and PvP, i honnestly think there will be like a 5-2 or 5-1, unless they send thorzain and id he beats Steph this is the end
If things are really going there way, Millenium has a chance (with Stephano kill 2-4 "big players" and Tarson/Adel taking a map each). But Mouz should be the clear favorite. I am predicting (and hoping for) a 5-2 in mouzes favor.
On December 06 2011 22:40 Dawg_Snow wrote: I m a millenium "kind of" fan but i think mouz Will win. Stephano Will be playing from korea right ?
It was played a week ago so all the games were on EU server I think.
Like you I will cheer for Millenium but I think it will be pretty hard for them to win this because Mouz is a really good team with a lot of talented players.
On December 07 2011 08:02 Alex.IGN wrote: I might have just been told one of these games is the 2nd best game someone has ever seen, next to Stephano vs KiWiKaKi at IPL 3.
On December 07 2011 08:02 Alex.IGN wrote: I might have just been told one of these games is the 2nd best game someone has ever seen, next to Stephano vs KiWiKaKi at IPL 3.
Looking forward to it!
You are really good at teasing guy ! Now I can't go to my bed, but I think it is what you want
After seeing Stephano destroying protoss all day long i know understand so much more the match-up and Lalush did some little mistakes wich condamned him since the beginning. -> not looking for upgrades verry early (stephano begins at like 7,45min) and not enough agressive with his roach, he didn't succeed to denie 3d base. The game was over at 12 min
Alright, folks, here's the deal: we had to record this series a little bit earlier in the day so that PainUser could be present on Inside the Game. It appears that the local recordings from earlier today have distorted computer sounds but clear caster sounds. The only suggestions are to muscle through it or perhaps watch on mute, but the games themselves are actually quite incredible. We apologize greatly for this, and will try our hardest to not repeat this mistake. Thank you and please enjoy the games!
OMG adel fail. This his special tactic: the no scout At 8min he pushes but didn't even know where hasuobs was and during this time he is droped I'm so sad to see him do that like 90% of the time ans stil not impoving at sending a probe TT
i THINK morrow can take stephano. idk stephano might just go DRG on them and reverse all-kill or something, but i think Mouz overall has the better team.
Feast is really not bad. He's relatively unknown but i honnestly think he's the 2nd best Millenium's player for the moment. And this night he just beat Diestar and Tarson 2-0 each at the GSS invitational
On December 07 2011 10:36 IGNProLeague wrote: Alright, folks, here's the deal: we had to record this series a little bit earlier in the day so that PainUser could be present on Inside the Game. It appears that the local recordings from earlier today have distorted computer sounds but clear caster sounds. The only suggestions are to muscle through it or perhaps watch on mute, but the games themselves are actually quite incredible. We apologize greatly for this, and will try our hardest to not repeat this mistake. Thank you and please enjoy the games!
Unfortunate, but thanks a lot for the heads up. IPL always seems to have great communication. <3
If Stephano can't even the series and take out 3 top players in a row, I think Millenium is in a world of trouble, I don't see DieStar or Tarson or KleeneX take out mouz imo.
On December 07 2011 10:56 fofa2000 wrote: I'm afraid Stephano won't be playing
Do you have access to inside information or are you just speculating?
He is in Korea, so he might not want to get up and play teamgame att night. Pretty much the same goes for MorroW.
So, he's gotta sleep instead of representing his team? What do you think these guys are? Amateurs?
Yeah, pretty much. It wouldnt be the first the millenium forfeiting a game because they have to sleep. (you seem to be unaware of this, this happened just some weeks ago).
On December 07 2011 11:31 cRaZypYRo wrote: is there any belgian player or why the flag of belgium? it was a very good game of stephano, not letting hasu expand.
On December 07 2011 11:30 Bagration wrote: 3 base protoss versus 6 base zerg with gold. It's a miracle that Hasu survived as long as he did.
The miracle in this game was how Stephano dragged this game to a lategame situation. He should have outright died when that midgame push came, since he had invested so heavly in bases and drones.
And I think Hasu, just as almost every player outside of Korea, lacks the killer instinct. He never cut probes, and he expanded behind his attack. Sometimes you gotta be like MC, and commit to kill your opponent when the timing window opens. That half-assed attack took him nowhere.
MorroW wins. You saw a red ping on the map, you only see pings from the player who sent in the replay. If you see Morrow's ping, he sent in the replay, logic dictates he wins.
On December 07 2011 11:46 Alphafury wrote: Why is there no game sound? makes it much less entertaining in big battles...
We had issues with game sounds in Game 1, so we're actually pretty glad that it's just plain not there instead. It was chopping/echoing heavily in Game 1.
MorroW wins. You saw a red ping on the map, you only see pings from the player who sent in the replay. If you see Morrow's ping, he sent in the replay, logic dictates he wins.
MorroW wins. You saw a red ping on the map, you only see pings from the player who sent in the replay. If you see Morrow's ping, he sent in the replay, logic dictates he wins.
MorroW wins. You saw a red ping on the map, you only see pings from the player who sent in the replay. If you see Morrow's ping, he sent in the replay, logic dictates he wins.
MorroW wins. You saw a red ping on the map, you only see pings from the player who sent in the replay. If you see Morrow's ping, he sent in the replay, logic dictates he wins.
MorroW wins. You saw a red ping on the map, you only see pings from the player who sent in the replay. If you see Morrow's ping, he sent in the replay, logic dictates he wins.
MorroW wins. You saw a red ping on the map, you only see pings from the player who sent in the replay. If you see Morrow's ping, he sent in the replay, logic dictates he wins.
Nice fail.
I guess the lesson here is that the winner doesn't always send in the replay.
MorroW wins. You saw a red ping on the map, you only see pings from the player who sent in the replay. If you see Morrow's ping, he sent in the replay, logic dictates he wins.
Lol funny how red pings look similar to the "You're under attack" ping when you in a players POV.
Nice try though.
Thorzain vs Stephano!?!?! Whoa epic game incoming!
On December 07 2011 12:02 Bagration wrote: Morrow with the fantasy liftoff and GG.
If Stephano wants to win this he is going to have to take 2 more games off 2 really good players; the longer a series drags out the worse he is going to play. Not the worst plan..
morrow shoulda just pushed in after that nuke landed, was basically a free win at that point losing all the infestors and turning already bad ultras into less than half health ultras ><
On December 07 2011 12:01 1Eris1 wrote: Morrow could have easily won if he had just pushed right after the big nuke fell -.- /sigh. Instead he let 15 broodlords morph and just sat back.
Honestly Stephano's ling/infestor style isn't that great. So vunerable to drops
Yeah thats why I don't like it due to how vulnerable you can be to drops and how annoying it is so just see them lift up and you can't do anything but think "will he drop again?" Unless you have a couple infestors to take it out.
Nice run by Hasu (I just got here and checked the results), but just as I said earlier, I'm not really sure who Mouz has to take out a strong zerg. Morrow is pretty good, and then there is really just Thorzain as their last hope. Mana is really good, but not so much in PvZ. He might be able to do it but I would give Stephano the upper hand.
Stephano let that nuke hit his units on purpose, he was maxed and had spire out. It was the perfect move to lull Morrow into a false sense of security while he remaxed with broodlords. He immediately made 11 corrupters when it happened, so he was likely waiting for it
On December 07 2011 12:06 Chicane wrote: Nice run by Hasu (I just got here and checked the results), but just as I said earlier, I'm not really sure who Mouz has to take out a strong zerg. Morrow is pretty good, and then there is really just Thorzain as their last hope. Mana is really good, but not so much in PvZ. He might be able to do it but I would give Stephano the upper hand.
On December 07 2011 12:07 Rembot wrote: Stephano let that nuke hit his units on purpose, he was maxed and had spire out. It was the perfect move to lull Morrow into a false sense of security while he remaxed with broodlords. He immediately made 11 corrupters when it happened, so he was likely waiting for it
On December 07 2011 12:07 Rembot wrote: Stephano let that nuke hit his units on purpose, he was maxed and had spire out. It was the perfect move to lull Morrow into a false sense of security while he remaxed with broodlords. He immediately made 11 corrupters when it happened, so he was likely waiting for it
Err no, there were better ways of saccing an army. BL's take a longgggg time to morph. He made a mistake, simple as that. Lucky Morrow didn't capitlize on it or this clan war would be pretty much over.
But... what's with the stray tanks. It's like such an glaring mistake in front of amazing play which is odd in the sense that you don't see someone showing such amazing play making the mistake of leaving tanks in the middle of nowhere.
On December 07 2011 12:07 Rembot wrote: Stephano let that nuke hit his units on purpose, he was maxed and had spire out. It was the perfect move to lull Morrow into a false sense of security while he remaxed with broodlords. He immediately made 11 corrupters when it happened, so he was likely waiting for it
Totally more worted than attacking with them...
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On December 07 2011 12:28 bkrow wrote: I would eat my hat if Diestar beat Tzain and MaNa - i just don't see it happening
Mouz vs SlayerS rematch?
would be awesome, I think that slayers has respect for mouz players, and mouz could put up a nice defence
I always get Diestar and Beastyqt mixed up for some reason. I think one of them has been doing good recently, but I'm not sure which -.-. For milleniums sake I hope it's Diestar
On December 07 2011 12:30 VoirDire wrote: Ok guys, just tweet everybody you know to come here and say that Diestar is polish! I don't think he gets it quite yet
Look at the times of those posts. They all happened within the same minute.
On December 07 2011 12:30 1Eris1 wrote: I always get Diestar and Beastyqt mixed up for some reason. I think one of them has been doing good recently, but I'm not sure which -.-. For milleniums sake I hope it's Diestar
From what I've seen, Beastyqt has been doing pretty well (I think he is from Serbia if it is relevant... I could be wrong though) and Diestar has been out of the spotlight.
On December 07 2011 12:30 VoirDire wrote: Ok guys, just tweet everybody you know to come here and say that Diestar is polish! I don't think he gets it quite yet
Look at the times of those posts. They all happened within the same minute.
On December 07 2011 12:33 AIOL! wrote: Diestar is not that good atm. He was 6 months ago but now he is among the sub-top european terran scene. Maybe top10-15
Might be right yes.and hes someone i dont really like he lost 1-3 against a random-german (i think it was roof) some weeks ago and then he was flaming all the time and at IEM he wasnt that sympathic as well.he thought he will destroy socke and lost. and some days he lost to monchi.
dunno but im not impressed by him in terms of his skill and his character as well but its bo1 right?so who knows
On December 07 2011 12:33 AIOL! wrote: Diestar is not that good atm. He was 6 months ago but now he is among the sub-top european terran scene. Maybe top10-15
Might be right yes.and hes someone i dont really like he lost 1-3 against a random-german (i think it was roof) some weeks ago and then he was flaming all the time and at IEM he wasnt that sympathic as well.he thought he will destroy socke and lost. and some days he lost to monchi.
dunno but im not impressed by him in terms of his skill and his character as well
I don't like him either, he's pretty arrogant and 1 bases like every game in TvP. Played him couple times on ladder, either marine tank scv push or 1-1-1 lol.
On December 07 2011 12:33 AIOL! wrote: Diestar is not that good atm. He was 6 months ago but now he is among the sub-top european terran scene. Maybe top10-15
Might be right yes.and hes someone i dont really like he lost 1-3 against a random-german (i think it was roof) some weeks ago and then he was flaming all the time and at IEM he wasnt that sympathic as well.he thought he will destroy socke and lost. and some days he lost to monchi.
dunno but im not impressed by him in terms of his skill and his character as well
I don't like him either, he's pretty arrogant and 1 bases like every game in TvP. Played him couple times on ladder, either marine tank scv push or 1-1-1 lol.
On December 07 2011 12:33 AIOL! wrote: Diestar is not that good atm. He was 6 months ago but now he is among the sub-top european terran scene. Maybe top10-15
[...]and some days he lost to monchi.[...]
Monchi has also defeated DIMAGA in some Cup, so one should not be ashamed because of losing to him. But in general I think your right, Diestar is not that good atm.
Yeah Thorzain just plays in another league And Diestar really seems to be a nice gut IRL, from what i seen in interviews etc... To be confident is normal and it's how we improve i don't see arrogance when he sayd he could pass the groups at iem. And he may be quite all-in ish in TvP but this is his style and that works
Congrats to mouz! Thanks for tuning in everyone! If you missed any of the games (specifically Stephano vs Morrow) we are starting the rebroadcast now - keep in mind the first game will still have screwy audio, sorry again for that!
On December 07 2011 12:35 Dexington wrote: Hopefully we see Heromarine if ThorZain manages to lose.
I imagine they'd send out one of him or Bigs before they put out Mana.
Yeah I want to see him too. I missed the Grubby's Starcraft II Series Pro Invitational 4 earlier + Show Spoiler +
and he won his three first games 2-0 before he got knocked out by sLivko in the quarterfinal
. Only 14(?) years old and kicking ass in one of the absolute best foreign teams. Not bad. :D
Well, just being on the team doesn't mean much. He gets the tag and a little bit of money and that's it.
They add supposedly talented players and see if it works out and they get better. Hopefully it works with Marine, the last time with syck it was a failure. But he still has a lot of time to develop, young as he is.
On December 07 2011 12:35 Dexington wrote: Hopefully we see Heromarine if ThorZain manages to lose.
I imagine they'd send out one of him or Bigs before they put out Mana.
Yeah I want to see him too. I missed the Grubby's Starcraft II Series Pro Invitational 4 earlier + Show Spoiler +
and he won his three first games 2-0 before he got knocked out by sLivko in the quarterfinal
. Only 14(?) years old and kicking ass in one of the absolute best foreign teams. Not bad. :D
Well, just being on the team doesn't mean much. He gets the tag and a little bit of money and that's it.
They add supposedly talented players and see if it works out and they get better. Hopefully it works with Marine, the last time with syck it was a failure. But he still has a lot of time to develop, young as he is.
True, but I want to believe that a team of that caliber wouldn't show that amount of interest if he wasn't exceptionally talented. I want to believe. :p
Yea as expected Stephano is not a hole team by himself only so much 1 player can do. Mouse simply got top players in there hole lineup. But still gonna be fun to see if Stephano can do an all kill in the next match for Millinium.
Shocked Millenium didn't forfeit again, expected the score to be more like 5-1 or 5-0 but HasuObs beasted quite well enough. Will be interesting to see Mouz play a much tougher opponent in SlayerS (I believe that is right atleast). SlayerS should win quite easily, but it will depend on which players they decide to use. They could probably get through most of Mouz with their worst players but definitely see them sending someone strong out to take out Thorzain if needed, especially since they love him so much. <3
On December 07 2011 20:25 Hall0wed wrote: Shocked Millenium didn't forfeit again, expected the score to be more like 5-1 or 5-0 but HasuObs beasted quite well enough. Will be interesting to see Mouz play a much tougher opponent in SlayerS (I believe that is right atleast). SlayerS should win quite easily, but it will depend on which players they decide to use. They could probably get through most of Mouz with their worst players but definitely see them sending someone strong out to take out Thorzain if needed, especially since they love him so much. <3
Well, SlayerS and mouz met in the normal IPL Team Arena and it ended 5-3 in favor of SlayerS. They used Lots, Ryung, CoCa and Puzzle, 3/4 players used by SlayerS were Code S that time, so you shouldn't underestimate mouz, they can pull an upset against the A-Team and they can certainly beat the B-Team
We are on a relatively tight schedule and there are multiple other events around the world (MLG DreamHack GSL WCG) every weekend. To get 5 available players from two teams on different ends of the world every day would be asking for too much. We have already seen how difficult it can be to accomodate not only your own team's busy schedule, but the schedule of another team thousands of miles and multiple time zones away. I will tell you that the first matches from the round of 8 may be as old as two or even three weeks, but that there are many matches that have still yet to be played and the tournament will wrap before Christmas (Dec. 25).
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