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Welcome to the  Korean StarLeague Daily! The KSL is sponsored by own3d.tv and can be viewed as an European event series that features the Korean Pro-Teams. From Monday to Thursday there will be a single player competition. Each of the 8 Pro-Teams will send out one player and they will play each other in a single-elimination tournament-style bracket. All of the games will be best of three. The winning player receives a $100 prize, with $50 going to the runner-up! Friday through Sunday there will be team-matches, which will use a Winner's League format, with the winning team taking home a prize of $200!
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Today's Line-Up! Saturday, December 3rd 13:00 GMT (+00:00) (Team League):
Match 1:
Match 2:
Match 3:
Match 4:
Match 5:
Match 6:
Match 7:
Match 8:
Match 9:
Match 10:
Match 11:
Poll: Who Will Win?oGs (52) 57% MvP (40) 43% 92 total votes Your vote: Who Will Win? (Vote): oGs
(Vote): MvP
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All games will be cast LIVE by Khaldor, and all VoDs will be posted, on his stream through own3d.tv which can be found here
Korean VoDs and Broadcast can be found here
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KSL is shaping up to be something sick, looking foward to tommorow !
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Switzerland2892 Posts
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Oh this will be epic, two stacked teams. Maybe we can see ForGG ^^
Any word on changing the format to proleague style?
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I heard MVP is very good at team leagues.
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United Kingdom38255 Posts
wow, didn't realise there was another KSL clan war this weekend.
so awesome =D
Small format nitpick, could you just put a results spoiler and have the rest cascading inside that? Keeps the OP a little neater and a bit more concise.
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I think the Lineup should be put under one spoiler then results in another... just like the BW threads?
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KSL doing soo good .. would love to see Forgg here!
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oGs fighting!! I think they will do alot better in teamleagues now with forGG joining and Supernova being pretty good now.
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did this tournament just start? Or has it been done before but it is just being advertised?
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i doubt forgg will play high stake tvz before gsl match
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On December 03 2011 03:14 Resolve wrote:
I think the Lineup should be put under one spoiler then results in another... just like the BW threads?
Can't post the Line-Up in a Winner's League format, as it spoils the previous match every time. You're probably thinking of ProLeague format, where it's BoX where X = Number of Players sent to play. In Winners League a team can theoretically win an entire Bo11 with just one player.
On December 03 2011 03:38 amazingoopah wrote:
did this tournament just start? Or has it been done before but it is just being advertised?
This is the first week the KSL has been running.
On December 03 2011 03:02 Asha` wrote:
wow, didn't realise there was another KSL clan war this weekend.
so awesome =D
Small format nitpick, could you just put a results spoiler and have the rest cascading inside that? Keeps the OP a little neater and a bit more concise.
Changes made, I think XD, I wasn't quite sure what you were talking about.
Also added spoiler free (for the match at least) under the Match X Players spoiler.
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I'm hyped to see the 5th best player in the world play today. xD
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I think oGsToBeDetermined is going to do well, but how are he and MVPToBeDetermined in 10 of the matches?
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On December 03 2011 06:42 mrKamiya wrote:
I think oGsToBeDetermined is going to do well, but how are he and MVPToBeDetermined in 10 of the matches?
Dude - you are funny!
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On December 03 2011 06:57 Xcobidoo wrote:
Bo11?! :O
Yup, same as the last one.
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Sick KSL is now my most anticipated event
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bo11 makes this so sick. ForGG please
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OGS Fin please! Would love to see how far he has progressed.
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:O Gogogo I hope to see Nada + DRG
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Hope I can tune in, and hopefully ForGG will be playing!!! = )
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On December 03 2011 14:45 MonsterBeast wrote:
Hope I can tune in, and hopefully ForGG will be playing!!! = )
He won't because jookto will all kill of course.
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Are MVP allowed to use col players and oGs allowed to use TL?
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Been hearing that JookTo is super crazy sick good now so im excited for this :D
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On December 03 2011 15:07 dooraven wrote:
Are MVP allowed to use col players and oGs allowed to use TL?
I would imagine they would be listed as oGs/TL and ColMVP, no?
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On December 03 2011 15:07 dooraven wrote:
Are MVP allowed to use col players and oGs allowed to use TL?
I am unfortunately unable to shed any light on this.
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This is going to be so sick. BO11. @_@
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On December 03 2011 03:14 Resolve wrote:
I think the Lineup should be put under one spoiler then results in another... just like the BW threads?
In both bw or sc2 you can't know the lineup of a team match before hand, winner format or not :o
Pumped for this, KSL is doing a good job for its first week
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wow! a whole 2 pages already!
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Thanks for doing this. Will definitely watch the vods. Have to pass out aftre the GSL finals.:D
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Seeker
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WTF?! 2 HOURS?! I HAVE TO WAIT 2 HOURS FOR THIS?
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This is going to be sick, props to KSL for doing this
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I just want to warn everyone there is a chance that I might pass out at my computer, I've been awake since KSL yesterday. Gonna try my best to make it all the way through this, but if I don't I'll update the OP when I return from slumber.
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Just hearing about KSL for the first time... what is it ?
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ogs fin please, i missed his code a stream...
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On December 03 2011 20:12 Bengui wrote:
Just hearing about KSL for the first time... what is it ?
It literally says what it is in the first paragraph of the OP, as well as providing a link to its liquipedia page -__-
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So excited for this now after watching the GSL finals, give me moooooooooore
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The sickest thing is that oGs doesn't have many scrubs they'll send out. Their team is reaaally deep.
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On December 03 2011 20:20 Itsmedudeman wrote:
The sickest thing is that oGs doesn't have many scrubs they'll send out. Their team is reaaally deep.
As long as NaDa shows up, I will be content
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I think GOM should use this KSL as a new maps testing tool. They will get feedback from pros and a large sample size in no time
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On December 03 2011 13:57 deber459 wrote:
OGS Fin please! Would love to see how far he has progressed.
You should check out this thing called the GSL Code A I heard koreans like Fin play it in sometimes.
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Seeker
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On December 03 2011 20:29 Dodgin wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2011 13:57 deber459 wrote:
OGS Fin please! Would love to see how far he has progressed. You should check out this thing called the GSL Code A I heard koreans like Fin play it in sometimes.
This. Especially because the guy who creates the GSL Code A LR threads is rumored to be a baller
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On December 03 2011 20:29 Dodgin wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2011 13:57 deber459 wrote:
OGS Fin please! Would love to see how far he has progressed. You should check out this thing called the GSL Code A I heard koreans like Fin play it in sometimes.
He could have doubled in skill since we last saw him in Code A all those days ago!
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On December 03 2011 20:29 Goibon wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2011 20:29 Dodgin wrote:On December 03 2011 13:57 deber459 wrote:
OGS Fin please! Would love to see how far he has progressed. You should check out this thing called the GSL Code A I heard koreans like Fin play it in sometimes. He could have doubled in skill since we last saw him in Code A all those days ago!
He might have been using QXC's method of DBZ training to become Super Fin.
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On December 03 2011 20:32 Dodgin wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2011 20:29 Goibon wrote:On December 03 2011 20:29 Dodgin wrote:On December 03 2011 13:57 deber459 wrote:
OGS Fin please! Would love to see how far he has progressed. You should check out this thing called the GSL Code A I heard koreans like Fin play it in sometimes. He could have doubled in skill since we last saw him in Code A all those days ago! He might have been using QXC's method of DBZ training to become Super Fin.
Superfin is Super Fine.
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Please stop calling him Fin. We need more forGGs here. Fin is a horrible name imho.
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Seeker
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On December 03 2011 20:59 poorcloud wrote:
Please stop calling him Fin. We need more forGGs here. Fin is a horrible name imho.
Fixed. I agree, fOrGG > Pin
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On December 03 2011 21:08 Seeker wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2011 20:59 poorcloud wrote:
Please stop calling him Fin. We need more forGGs here. Fin is a horrible name imho. Fixed. I agree, fOrGG > Pin
Yeah just edit that post out ^^
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Seeker
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On December 03 2011 21:13 Drazerk wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2011 21:08 Seeker wrote:On December 03 2011 20:59 poorcloud wrote:
Please stop calling him Fin. We need more forGGs here. Fin is a horrible name imho. Fixed. I agree, fOrGG > Pin Yeah just edit that post out ^^
What do u mean? -_-
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On December 03 2011 20:28 Arceus wrote:
I think GOM should use this KSL as a new maps testing tool. They will get feedback from pros and a large sample size in no time
I could totally be wrong, but I thought I remember/heard khaldor saying something along those lines. Like i said, I couldve imagined that for all i know, just knowing me XD. But, i wouldn't be surprised if that's what they'll use this for.
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On December 03 2011 20:29 Seeker wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2011 20:29 Dodgin wrote:On December 03 2011 13:57 deber459 wrote:
OGS Fin please! Would love to see how far he has progressed. You should check out this thing called the GSL Code A I heard koreans like Fin play it in sometimes. This. Especially because the guy who creates the GSL Code A LR threads is rumored to be a baller
Those rumours are lies. All lies.
The Ultralisk poster, now he is a baller. The one that actually does the LRing.
^_^
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Seeker
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On December 03 2011 21:25 SeaSwift wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2011 20:29 Seeker wrote:On December 03 2011 20:29 Dodgin wrote:On December 03 2011 13:57 deber459 wrote:
OGS Fin please! Would love to see how far he has progressed. You should check out this thing called the GSL Code A I heard koreans like Fin play it in sometimes. This. Especially because the guy who creates the GSL Code A LR threads is rumored to be a baller Those rumours are lies. All lies. The Ultralisk poster, now he is a baller. The one that actually does the LRing. ^_^
Who are u talking about?
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Drazerk. Clearly. Drazerk The Baller.
jkjk
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It's so hard to find specific VODs for last night's games T_T
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On December 03 2011 21:28 SeaSwift wrote:
Drazerk. Clearly. Drazerk The Baller.
jkjk
-_-;; I do LRs too btw
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So tired from staying up for GSL finals I dunno if I can stay awake for this and yet.. the promise of khaldor and potentially awesome games is hard to resist.
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On December 03 2011 21:35 Seeker wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2011 21:28 SeaSwift wrote:
Drazerk. Clearly. Drazerk The Baller.
jkjk -_-;; I do LRs too btw
I know, and they are amazing too ;-)
Don't need to feel down :D
Only 10 minutes to go! Hoping to see some oGsMC action here!
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2 minutes i wanna see a forgg all kill.
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This is going to be great.
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lol... They have some guy named GWIAZDOR on KR server ^^
PS. Where is Khaldor?
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On December 03 2011 22:04 Frankon wrote:
lol... They have some guy named GWIAZDOR on KR server ^^
PS. Where is Khaldor?
Said yesterday that he doesn't have time to cast this 
Khaldor and especially ToD are great
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On December 03 2011 22:04 Frankon wrote:
lol... They have some guy named GWIAZDOR on KR server ^^
PS. Where is Khaldor?
haha Poland hwaiting
no english cast?
lol gwiazdor inna game
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Oh man we couldn't get a single caster to cast this? I'm sure many people would have wanted the opportunity to cast this
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Yeah, that's a shame =/ I know wolf asked to cast earlier this week. They should just get him on . . . sucks to miss out on english casting on series as good as this . . .
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What, no Khaldor?
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Seeker
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WTF!! I've never watched a Korean stream without any casting before -_-;;
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I needs some English.....
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On December 03 2011 22:09 Acronysis wrote:
Yeah, that's a shame =/ I know wolf asked to cast earlier this week. They should just get him on . . . sucks to miss out on english casting on series as good as this . . .
yeah wolf, if your seeing this, please crash and cast the series even though i know its not possible haha.
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Gogogogo ! Countdown started ! They should get Jinro to cast if he's at the oGs house :p Since the oGsSK stream is up ^^
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some guy wanted to cast in English but they didn't let him cause they didn't know him
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I don't mind watching the korean stream without english casting, though I do enjoy it.. .
I just think its stupid that they only have 1 gomtv caster (khaldor) casting it, and then when he backs out, they don't get someone to replace him? They have plenty of people at their disposal, and like i said earlier wolf asked to cast, so there is at least 1 other available.
Idk, just seems like they could have done more.
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jinro needs to be casting! MC too!
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United Kingdom38255 Posts
Jookto's ZvP has always looked like his best match up, so I think Tails will struggle given the map.
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Seeker
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bummer..... this feels so weird..... we're just watching a game
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This is gonna be sick! Guess I'm on time.
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United Kingdom31255 Posts
Personally I prefer koreans casting the games so I'm not fussed
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On December 03 2011 22:15 Drazerk wrote:
Personally I prefer koreans casting the games so I'm not fussed
Somehow this korean caster isn't showing much energy...
Although i really like his camera work.
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mvp tails playing so well, jooktoo can't really get a good economy going.
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On December 03 2011 22:15 Drazerk wrote:
Personally I prefer koreans casting the games so I'm not fussed
I don't T_T
I hope we get MC casting it at some point. No TB to help, but it would still be awesome.
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double forge in pvz, interesting
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no creep no 3rd, what is he expecting to do here ? :s
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Is that 3-3 starting for tails at the 14 min mark?
edit: it was 2-2
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Time to see if ForGG is right and Jookto is one of the best player in practice. :o
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On December 03 2011 22:19 SeaSwift wrote:
I hope we get MC casting it at some point. No TB to help, but it would still be awesome.
That would be awesome XD haha, if only =P. I wouldn't mind Jinro hopping on either heh, always neat when the players cast.
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On December 03 2011 22:22 MCMXVI wrote:
Is that 3-3 starting for tails at the 14 min mark?
2-2
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where is khaldor?
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Seeker
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Jookto playing like a baws
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^ Tails has some great control though, not to mention way ahead on the upgrades
Edit: Wow! loved the way tails handled that push into the natural and fending off the flank. . .gj!
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.... i totally didn't understand what jookto was expecting to do this game..........
late 3rd, no creep, no upgrades, low on tech, 20drones behind, pop behind, fooling around with a few roaches and zerglings never really killing anything nor building up his eco...
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I don't know why Jookto pulled back to defend, no way he is going to win that fight.
Should've tried to baserace imo
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The upgrades made the difference. Jooktoo also never had the chance to explode in economy the whole game.
1 gate expand sure looked hell lot better than FFE in that game.
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United Kingdom38255 Posts
ez pz, solid play from Tails.
Felt like jookto was too low econ for dual sight, less workers than toss from midgame on.
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Tails had some great engagements.
And i loved when Jookto burrowed the queen and the drones when 4 zelots came. He might have unburrow the queen when the zergling reinforcement came (he did unborrow the drones) but it was still nice play
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I thought jookto played really bad the entire game. He was just half assing everything.
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On December 03 2011 22:28 clusen wrote:
I don't know why Jookto pulled back to defend, no way he is going to win that fight.
Should've tried to baserace imo
Would of lost the base race as well unfortunately
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so theStc will come for ogs.
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Ooh, oGs sending out TheStC, cool cool =)
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Seeker
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Drazerk:
I'm not seeing any LR going on. Did u decide it wasn't worth it?
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On December 03 2011 22:31 Seeker wrote:
Drazerk:
I'm not seeing any LR going on. Did u decide it wasn't worth it?
I missed like the first 5 mins of the first game and decided it wasn't worth it
Would be better to do battle reports really or you risk over throwing the thread
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Seeker
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What the! Is this only cross positions antiga?
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United Kingdom31255 Posts
This build is getting really popular on Antiga
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Seeker
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Oh wow, stc just got stuffed lol
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proxy marauders, fun ^^, the stc always makes for interesting games at least XD
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Seeker
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lol, Drazerk I think it's just u and me
nvm
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On December 03 2011 22:35 Seeker wrote:
lol, Drazerk I think it's just u and me
nvm
Na we just post too much ♥
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Proxy marauder rush..
Oh you TheStC, this isn't beta anymore :D
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haha tails handling that pressure like a boss. STC is now far far behind;
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And Tarso... STC holds.
Nice repair on the wall. But i think Tails didnt target the SCVs
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omg i didn't realise there was a Korean stream for this >_>
Blargh. Oh well. better late than never.
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Seeker
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On December 03 2011 22:36 Drazerk wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2011 22:35 Seeker wrote:
lol, Drazerk I think it's just u and me
nvm Na we just post too much ♥
Lol, ♥ But we post cause otherwise, the thread's lifeless
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On December 03 2011 22:36 Noocta wrote:
Proxy marauder rush..
Oh you TheStC, this isn't beta anymore :D
I've actually seen quite a lot of korean terrans doing this recently on this map, I think someone did it in Code A a few days ago
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Yeahh, stc is holding off the push okay, but he'll be so far behind economically =/, looks like tails got this.
I gotta say I love the stc's medivac and army control . . . really impressive considering the circumstances
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Sad there is no english stream
And both streams dont have ingame sounds
but good games though
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Russian Federation676 Posts
where the hell are the lineup/results information, I dont even have a clue who ogsstc is playing with!
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On December 03 2011 22:40 human_ko wrote:
where the hell are the lineup/results information, I dont even have a clue who ogsstc is playing with!
MVP tails
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Target fire the medivacs better than that ffs.
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On December 03 2011 22:40 human_ko wrote:where the hell are the lineup/results information, I dont even have a clue  WhO ogsstc is playing with!
He plays vs  TAiLS. Its winner league format.
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TheStC has rly good micro
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On December 03 2011 22:39 OGKruemmel wrote:Sad there is no english stream And both streams dont have ingame sounds but good games though
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oGsSK's stream has ingame sounds, just no casting
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lol STC is using scv's like they were made from barracks, nice play.
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TheStC is cute but this is not really effective -_-
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both streams have ingame sounds.
Impressive medavac control by TheStC
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Seeker
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On December 03 2011 22:41 Acronysis wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2011 22:39 OGKruemmel wrote:Sad there is no english stream And both streams dont have ingame sounds but good games though ? oGsSK's stream has ingame sounds, just no casting
oGsSK was supposed to be casted by Khaldor
TheKSL is being casted by a Korean guy.
Therefore, the SK stream was the english stream
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Stc can micro all he wants but if tails get that 3rd base up, GG.
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So, results thus far?
Also, how sweet would it be if one korean pro decides to switch his handle to TBD :D
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3-3 soon.... he can just continue attacking with zealots, with his 3rd it might just work lol.
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On December 03 2011 22:43 Mephiztopheles1 wrote:
So, results thus far?
Also, how sweet would it be if one korean pro decides to switch his handle to TBD :D
MVP 1 - 0 oGS
Tails > Jookto
Man, stc sure is making this game last longer than i thought . . .so cost effecient
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On December 03 2011 22:43 Mephiztopheles1 wrote:
So, results thus far?
Also, how sweet would it be if one korean pro decides to switch his handle to TBD :D
Game 1: oGsJookto vs MVP_Tails
Game 2: oGsTheStC vs MVP_Tails
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He's already starting to be crushed by upgrades alone.
I wonder why STC against a Protoss though, I've always felt it's his weakest match-up.
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wow top1 control cant save TheStC from a failed cheese
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What happened to Khaldor then? Is he not available?
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man i want to see DRG
plz oGs
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3 - 3 zealots are just so powerful.
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Ahhhhh, I just don't know what oGs is doing, in those two games.... just fooling around/trying out strats ? Not really solid games Good micro shenanigans but when you're down on eco and on upgrades it doesn't really do you any good in the long run.... :/
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On December 03 2011 22:41 Seeker wrote:
OMFG, DAT MEDIVAC MICRO
really? why would you play terran if you can't do that?
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On December 03 2011 22:45 parazice wrote:
man i want to see DRG
plz oGs
I wanna see sC!
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Seeker
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On December 03 2011 22:46 Nouar wrote:Ahhhhh, I just don't know what oGs is doing, in those two games.... just fooling around/trying out strats ? Not really solid games Good micro shenanigans but when you're down on eco and on upgrades it doesn't really do you any good in the long run.... :/
Probably hyping up for NaDa
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On December 03 2011 22:45 Drazerk wrote:
Tails all kill incoming?
I'd be amazed if tails could do that.
oGs has yet to send out some of their top tier.
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I don't see forgg in that channel =(
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asdkfj;alsdjkfasd;fjlasjdf they're sending out TOP
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Big guns are here.... oGsTOP
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Former GSL finalist into code B, can he do something about it?
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Judging by TOP's recent TvPs, TAiLS is set for the 3-kill.
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It wouldn't be a korean team league if one team wouldn't throw more terrans at the problem xD
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On December 03 2011 22:48 Itsmedudeman wrote:
I don't see forgg in that channel =(
They are in the same house no? You don't need chat channels when you can create waves with you mouth.
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Seeker
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okay..... I don't like the Korean caster. He's so lifeless compared to the MSL/OSL/GSL casters
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On December 03 2011 22:46 Nouar wrote:Ahhhhh, I just don't know what oGs is doing, in those two games.... just fooling around/trying out strats ? Not really solid games Good micro shenanigans but when you're down on eco and on upgrades it doesn't really do you any good in the long run.... :/
I agree, in the first game tails took his sweet time going up to robo tech and upgrades, jookTo didn't punish him for that though. and the second game is just like "what are you thinking?!" on such a huge map, that rax was completely useless for a very long time.
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Anyone knows if Jinro can play for oGs?
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I think oGs are sending out some less known players to get some exposure. The prize for winning this series isn't very big, and it's more important to get publicity for non-Code S/A players who are desperately trying to make it big.
Plus the Code S/A players will want to save their strategies for their respective high level league.
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Seeker
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On December 03 2011 22:51 SeaSwift wrote:
I think oGs are sending out some less known players to get some exposure. The prize for winning this series isn't very big, and it's more important to get publicity for non-Code S/A players who are desperately trying to make it big.
Plus the Code S/A players will want to save their strategies for their respective high level league.
JookTo, TheStC were both in Code A. They fell out in RO48
TOP was a Code S player
TheStC also took 3rd in MLG Orlando
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On December 03 2011 22:51 SeaSwift wrote:
I think oGs are sending out some less known players to get some exposure. The prize for winning this series isn't very big, and it's more important to get publicity for non-Code S/A players who are desperately trying to make it big.
Plus the Code S/A players will want to save their strategies for their respective high level league.
Good point . . .
i guess when I think about it, that's really what most of the KSL dailies have been doing.
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Well... does oGs actually have much better players than these guys? There's MC, and Inca... fOrGG is probably busy preparing for July.
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On December 03 2011 22:53 Acronysis wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2011 22:51 SeaSwift wrote:
I think oGs are sending out some less known players to get some exposure. The prize for winning this series isn't very big, and it's more important to get publicity for non-Code S/A players who are desperately trying to make it big.
Plus the Code S/A players will want to save their strategies for their respective high level league. Good point . . . i guess when I think about it, that's really what most of the KSL dailies have been doing.
The dailies have had a ton of good players, and I'd not say oGs are sending out a weak roster o_O
especially given it's a bo11
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Seeker
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On December 03 2011 22:54 Itsmedudeman wrote:
Well... does oGs actually have much better players than these guys? There's MC, and Inca... fOrGG is probably busy preparing for July.
Prepare for July? What do u mean?
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On December 03 2011 22:52 Seeker wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2011 22:51 SeaSwift wrote:
I think oGs are sending out some less known players to get some exposure. The prize for winning this series isn't very big, and it's more important to get publicity for non-Code S/A players who are desperately trying to make it big.
Plus the Code S/A players will want to save their strategies for their respective high level league. JookTo, TheStC were both in Code A. They fell out in RO48 TOP was a Code S player TheStC also took 3rd in MLG Orlando
That's kind of what I meant. All the players so far are either in the bottom end of Code A having done well previously or are relative unknown. None of them are as famous as the likes of NaDa or MC.
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On December 03 2011 22:52 Seeker wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2011 22:51 SeaSwift wrote:
I think oGs are sending out some less known players to get some exposure. The prize for winning this series isn't very big, and it's more important to get publicity for non-Code S/A players who are desperately trying to make it big.
Plus the Code S/A players will want to save their strategies for their respective high level league. JookTo, TheStC were both in Code A. They fell out in RO48 TOP was a Code S player TheStC also took 3rd in MLG Orlando
Yeah, they are pretty well known. I feel it's more like giving the players a stressed test by giving them their weak match-up.
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On December 03 2011 22:55 Seeker wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2011 22:54 Itsmedudeman wrote:
Well... does oGs actually have much better players than these guys? There's MC, and Inca... fOrGG is probably busy preparing for July. Prepare for July? What do u mean?
Prepare for  July.
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On December 03 2011 22:55 Seeker wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2011 22:54 Itsmedudeman wrote:
Well... does oGs actually have much better players than these guys? There's MC, and Inca... fOrGG is probably busy preparing for July. Prepare for July? What do u mean?
He is facing July in the GSL I think
So much damage with just 2 gates...
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On December 03 2011 22:55 Seeker wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2011 22:54 Itsmedudeman wrote:
Well... does oGs actually have much better players than these guys? There's MC, and Inca... fOrGG is probably busy preparing for July. Prepare for July? What do u mean?
His next match which is really important. He might play, but idk.
http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/sc2-korean/teams/63_Old_Generations
oGs doesn't really have that powerhouse team anymore because all their players aren't really doing all too hot. There's Supernova, but it's still a bo11 and there's plenty of time for more players to be sent out. Honestly, sTC, TOP, and jookto could all be considered top 6 players from oGs.
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On December 03 2011 22:56 clusen wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2011 22:55 Seeker wrote:On December 03 2011 22:54 Itsmedudeman wrote:
Well... does oGs actually have much better players than these guys? There's MC, and Inca... fOrGG is probably busy preparing for July. Prepare for July? What do u mean? He is facing July in the GSL I think So much damage with just 2 gates...
Ohhhhhh.... okay. I thought he meant prepare for July even though this is oGs vs MVP
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If TOP doesn't manage to do any significant damage to Tails soon then Tails should have this game easily.
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On December 03 2011 22:54 Asha` wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2011 22:53 Acronysis wrote:On December 03 2011 22:51 SeaSwift wrote:
I think oGs are sending out some less known players to get some exposure. The prize for winning this series isn't very big, and it's more important to get publicity for non-Code S/A players who are desperately trying to make it big.
Plus the Code S/A players will want to save their strategies for their respective high level league. Good point . . . i guess when I think about it, that's really what most of the KSL dailies have been doing. The dailies have had a ton of good players, and I'd not say oGs are sending out a weak roster o_O especially given it's a bo11
nono, don't get me wrong, I'm not saying these players aren't good, or are not even known. everyone knows TOP and many know theSTC, i'm just saying that these are players that are either new to the scene, or have fallen off the scene a bit. It just seems like they're trying to get them back in that kind of light to either remind people of these guy's skills or to show them off, that's all.
Though obviously their are exceptions like MKP or MC, i know, i'm just saying in general.
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AHAHAAH that marine at the 3rd
"Hi, can I kill a probe ? woooooops what are those 8 lights surrounding me ?" SLASH arghhhhh
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That's was some nice control by TOP, no forcefields = no win for Protoss.
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On December 03 2011 22:57 Acronysis wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2011 22:54 Asha` wrote:On December 03 2011 22:53 Acronysis wrote:On December 03 2011 22:51 SeaSwift wrote:
I think oGs are sending out some less known players to get some exposure. The prize for winning this series isn't very big, and it's more important to get publicity for non-Code S/A players who are desperately trying to make it big.
Plus the Code S/A players will want to save their strategies for their respective high level league. Good point . . . i guess when I think about it, that's really what most of the KSL dailies have been doing. The dailies have had a ton of good players, and I'd not say oGs are sending out a weak roster o_O especially given it's a bo11 nono, don't get me wrong, I'm not saying these players aren't good, or are not even known. everyone knows TOP and many know theSTC, i'm just saying that these are players that are either new to the scene, or have fallen off the scene a bit. It just seems like they're trying to get them back in that kind of light to either remind people of these guy's skills or to show them off, that's all. Though obviously their are exceptions like MKP or MC, i know, i'm just saying in general.
I don't think so.....
They're just sending out players on their team. They're not sending out ppl hoping they will get the spotlight. JookTo, TheStC, TOP, these guys have gotten plenty recognition. oGs is just taking their time probably
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On December 03 2011 23:00 Amornthep wrote:
That's was some nice control by TOP, no forcefields = no win for Protoss.
I can agree, but i'd have to say tails decision making was really nice considering his army composition. sniping out the medivacs in that first stutter step was great, cause then it just weaked the marauders down to the point that the zealots could 1 shot all of them. . . probably saved tail the game.
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On December 03 2011 23:01 Seeker wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2011 22:57 Acronysis wrote:On December 03 2011 22:54 Asha` wrote:On December 03 2011 22:53 Acronysis wrote:On December 03 2011 22:51 SeaSwift wrote:
I think oGs are sending out some less known players to get some exposure. The prize for winning this series isn't very big, and it's more important to get publicity for non-Code S/A players who are desperately trying to make it big.
Plus the Code S/A players will want to save their strategies for their respective high level league. Good point . . . i guess when I think about it, that's really what most of the KSL dailies have been doing. The dailies have had a ton of good players, and I'd not say oGs are sending out a weak roster o_O especially given it's a bo11 nono, don't get me wrong, I'm not saying these players aren't good, or are not even known. everyone knows TOP and many know theSTC, i'm just saying that these are players that are either new to the scene, or have fallen off the scene a bit. It just seems like they're trying to get them back in that kind of light to either remind people of these guy's skills or to show them off, that's all. Though obviously their are exceptions like MKP or MC, i know, i'm just saying in general. I don't think so..... They're just sending out players on their team. They're not sending out ppl hoping they will get the spotlight. JookTo, TheStC, TOP, these guys have gotten plenty recognition. oGs is just taking their time probably
I mean, it's something we'll never know . . .but i still think that they're trying to get their lesser known/lower skill players a chance first to shine, but there's so many ways to look at it that it's impossible to say whos right =P
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On December 03 2011 23:01 Seeker wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2011 22:57 Acronysis wrote:On December 03 2011 22:54 Asha` wrote:On December 03 2011 22:53 Acronysis wrote:On December 03 2011 22:51 SeaSwift wrote:
I think oGs are sending out some less known players to get some exposure. The prize for winning this series isn't very big, and it's more important to get publicity for non-Code S/A players who are desperately trying to make it big.
Plus the Code S/A players will want to save their strategies for their respective high level league. Good point . . . i guess when I think about it, that's really what most of the KSL dailies have been doing. The dailies have had a ton of good players, and I'd not say oGs are sending out a weak roster o_O especially given it's a bo11 nono, don't get me wrong, I'm not saying these players aren't good, or are not even known. everyone knows TOP and many know theSTC, i'm just saying that these are players that are either new to the scene, or have fallen off the scene a bit. It just seems like they're trying to get them back in that kind of light to either remind people of these guy's skills or to show them off, that's all. Though obviously their are exceptions like MKP or MC, i know, i'm just saying in general. I don't think so..... They're just sending out players on their team. They're not sending out ppl hoping they will get the spotlight. JookTo, TheStC, TOP, these guys have gotten plenty recognition. oGs is just taking their time probably
Well, it's just that if you are going to use all your team, you might want to send out those good vP against a Protoss who All-Killed IM. Both TOP and StC are known for being weakest in TvP. Dunno about Jookto, though.
Just a couple of Ghosts and that Chargelot/Archon force would melt sooooo badly.
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Damn, well, I'm not betting on oGs in the teamleague next season.
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I accidentally read oGsMC vs MVP. Haha.
Hopefully there are good matches anyway.
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That's a metric fuckton of archons
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The target fire on the medivac is hurting TOP so much.
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I don't see TOP coming back from this one...
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Tails needs more archons, he only has like 9 :D
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On December 03 2011 23:04 SeaSwift wrote:
Well, it's just that if you are going to use all your team, you might want to send out those good vP against a Protoss who All-Killed IM. Both TOP and StC are known for being weakest in TvP. Dunno about Jookto, though.
Just a couple of Ghosts and that Chargelot/Archon force would melt sooooo badly.
Yea thought the exact same thing, ghost is a must.
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On December 03 2011 23:04 SeaSwift wrote:
Just a couple of Ghosts and that Chargelot/Archon force would melt sooooo badly.
Looks like you got your wish =)
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If top actually knew how to control his army/medivacs, he would have won this game long ago.
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TvP is so hard to figure out. Do u go and attack? Do u stay and mass up?
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Nope.... clossi/templar/zeal/archon
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can't really speak about 3-3 upgrades for tails, he has almosts only archons and you know how many HP archons have if you remove shields. and afaik he has only 1 shield upgrade.
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On December 03 2011 23:04 SeaSwift wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2011 23:01 Seeker wrote:On December 03 2011 22:57 Acronysis wrote:On December 03 2011 22:54 Asha` wrote:On December 03 2011 22:53 Acronysis wrote:On December 03 2011 22:51 SeaSwift wrote:
I think oGs are sending out some less known players to get some exposure. The prize for winning this series isn't very big, and it's more important to get publicity for non-Code S/A players who are desperately trying to make it big.
Plus the Code S/A players will want to save their strategies for their respective high level league. Good point . . . i guess when I think about it, that's really what most of the KSL dailies have been doing. The dailies have had a ton of good players, and I'd not say oGs are sending out a weak roster o_O especially given it's a bo11 nono, don't get me wrong, I'm not saying these players aren't good, or are not even known. everyone knows TOP and many know theSTC, i'm just saying that these are players that are either new to the scene, or have fallen off the scene a bit. It just seems like they're trying to get them back in that kind of light to either remind people of these guy's skills or to show them off, that's all. Though obviously their are exceptions like MKP or MC, i know, i'm just saying in general. I don't think so..... They're just sending out players on their team. They're not sending out ppl hoping they will get the spotlight. JookTo, TheStC, TOP, these guys have gotten plenty recognition. oGs is just taking their time probably Well, it's just that if you are going to use all your team, you might want to send out those good vP against a Protoss who All-Killed IM. Both TOP and StC are known for being weakest in TvP. Dunno about Jookto, though. Just a couple of Ghosts and that Chargelot/Archon force would melt sooooo badly.
o.o? Top known for being weak in tvp? i thought he was really good a t tvp. i mean he 4-0d MC when MC was at his top!
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That planetary died in... 2s ? :p
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That is a looooong train of SCVs..
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On December 03 2011 23:05 poorcloud wrote:
If top actually knew how to control his army/medivacs, he would have won this game long ago.
If Tails teched to storm he'd have won a long time ago too =p
I wonder if pure chargelot archon has been having a resurgence on KR since the EMP nerf. I know I have a lot more trouble with heavy archon play now...but I'm not a korean terran so I have no idea how much that's reflected in good play =p
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On December 03 2011 23:06 HolydaKing wrote:
can't really speak about 3-3 upgrades for tails, he has almosts only archons and you know how many HP archons have if you remove shields. and afaik he has only 1 shield upgrade.
Armor help zealots more, and they are taking the damage.
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man . . . tails is always so good about his upgrades
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both thestc and top went for mmm, but the thing is they couldn't even outupgrade tails. and how do you expect to win against a more complex army with better upgrades?
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I'm liking Tails' aggressive style!
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will we see mc come out n sch tails on protoss?
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I didn't know Tails was this good, I'm a new fan
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On December 03 2011 23:06 kusu wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2011 23:04 SeaSwift wrote:On December 03 2011 23:01 Seeker wrote:On December 03 2011 22:57 Acronysis wrote:On December 03 2011 22:54 Asha` wrote:On December 03 2011 22:53 Acronysis wrote:On December 03 2011 22:51 SeaSwift wrote:
I think oGs are sending out some less known players to get some exposure. The prize for winning this series isn't very big, and it's more important to get publicity for non-Code S/A players who are desperately trying to make it big.
Plus the Code S/A players will want to save their strategies for their respective high level league. Good point . . . i guess when I think about it, that's really what most of the KSL dailies have been doing. The dailies have had a ton of good players, and I'd not say oGs are sending out a weak roster o_O especially given it's a bo11 nono, don't get me wrong, I'm not saying these players aren't good, or are not even known. everyone knows TOP and many know theSTC, i'm just saying that these are players that are either new to the scene, or have fallen off the scene a bit. It just seems like they're trying to get them back in that kind of light to either remind people of these guy's skills or to show them off, that's all. Though obviously their are exceptions like MKP or MC, i know, i'm just saying in general. I don't think so..... They're just sending out players on their team. They're not sending out ppl hoping they will get the spotlight. JookTo, TheStC, TOP, these guys have gotten plenty recognition. oGs is just taking their time probably Well, it's just that if you are going to use all your team, you might want to send out those good vP against a Protoss who All-Killed IM. Both TOP and StC are known for being weakest in TvP. Dunno about Jookto, though. Just a couple of Ghosts and that Chargelot/Archon force would melt sooooo badly. o.o? Top known for being weak in tvp? i thought he was really good a t tvp. i mean he 4-0d MC when MC was at his top!
He was good at old style TvP (purely MMM centric with vikings for Colossi), but with HTs, Archons and Chargelots becoming more popular his style doesn't really work any more.
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he never had more than 4 ghosts :/ Whereas vs light zealots they would do so much damage even after being out of emp :s
I'm convinced he could make more than that at the beginning when he was on 4 bases and 30pop larger than tails...
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Plus, Tails went for an early 3rd that game and TOP did nothing to stop it, what comes after that was pretty much the result of this.
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Urgh, did Top even use his ghosts for EMP? I knew he had them, but I didn't see him using them at all.
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Too few ghosts for TOP. No storms or colossus for TAiLS.
I don't understand Koreans. T_T
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Inca vs Tails incoming, oGs better buck up or it's gonna be over for them soon.
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On December 03 2011 23:07 rutian wrote:
both thestc and top went for mmm, but the thing is they couldn't even outupgrade tails. and how do you expect to win against a more complex army with better upgrades?
And how on earth are you supposed to get faster upgrades as terran vs protoss if protoss chronoboosts?
TOP really screwed up that game, he had that early game army advantage, he could have sniped the 3rd. Instead, he derped around the bottom of the ramp, sent a marine to scout the 3rd way after his attack and then not decide to back out?
He could have gotten the 3rd in 4 shots with his army.
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Next Match:
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Looks like oGs will win this 4th set since Inca's pretty good at pvp
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Tails all-kill! for Aiur
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oh wow lets see inca's pvp! jees
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Time for tails to face best pvp player in the world !
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When did squirtle join mvp? i thought he was on st? :S
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On December 03 2011 23:10 poorcloud wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2011 23:07 rutian wrote:
both thestc and top went for mmm, but the thing is they couldn't even outupgrade tails. and how do you expect to win against a more complex army with better upgrades? And how on earth are you supposed to get faster upgrades as terran vs protoss if protoss chronoboosts? TOP really screwed up that game, he had that early game army advantage, he could have sniped the 3rd. Instead, he derped around the bottom of the ramp, sent a marine to scout the 3rd way after his attack and then not decide to back out? He could have gotten the 3rd in 4 shots with his army.
Yeah, he should have gotten the 3rd base at that time but he had his 3rd too so he thought it would be even.
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On December 03 2011 23:10 Applesqt wrote:
Looks like oGs will win this 4th set since Inca's pretty good at pvp
Haven't seen a PVP from him since the 4 gate "fix". Pvp is so different from when he used to be sick in that matchup that it's hard to say how good he is.
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On December 03 2011 23:11 Eee wrote:
When did squirtle join mvp? i thought he was on st? :S
Where did you hear this???
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On December 03 2011 23:11 Eee wrote:
When did squirtle join mvp? i thought he was on st? :S
He is on ST
Squirtle
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"for the foreign fans"
D'awww, translating just for us ^_^
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On December 03 2011 23:11 poorcloud wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2011 23:11 Eee wrote:
When did squirtle join mvp? i thought he was on st? :S Where did you hear this???
Just realised I'm watching a VOD and not the livestream -.-
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Red = oGs?
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On December 03 2011 23:10 poorcloud wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2011 23:07 rutian wrote:
both thestc and top went for mmm, but the thing is they couldn't even outupgrade tails. and how do you expect to win against a more complex army with better upgrades? And how on earth are you supposed to get faster upgrades as terran vs protoss if protoss chronoboosts?
Well that is a useless question, because you think they're both equal and only chronoboost makes a difference. No, mules make a difference, everything in that matchup makes a difference cause it's not mirror. So, if you want to have earlier upgrades it's not really that hard.
I agree that tails definitely isn't playing picture perfect, but still oGs players just play worse.
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Inca vs ManZenith on Delta quadrant in GSL Open 1. I have still this game printed in my brain, that was awesome. iirc Inca only had PvP until that match, and that sealed his reputation as the PvP master.
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On December 03 2011 23:14 OMGKEI wrote:
Red = oGs?
Yes
Weee 4gate lol
@shellshock
Tails>Jookto Dual Sight
Tails>STC Antiga
Tails>TOP Bel'Shir
Now Tails vs Inca Crossfire
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OH SHIET, 4 GATE INCOMING!!
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On December 03 2011 23:14 Shellshock1122 wrote:
what are the results so far? OP isnt updated
oGsJookto < MVP_Tails
oGSTheStC < MVP_Tails
oGsTOP < MVP_Tails
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On December 03 2011 23:07 Asha` wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2011 23:05 poorcloud wrote:
If top actually knew how to control his army/medivacs, he would have won this game long ago. If Tails teched to storm he'd have won a long time ago too =p I wonder if pure chargelot archon has been having a resurgence on KR since the EMP nerf. I know I have a lot more trouble with heavy archon play now...but I'm not a korean terran so I have no idea how much that's reflected in good play =p
you can't realy tech to storm unles you put the templars inside a warp prism.
the strenght of chargelot/archon is the movement speed (if you mix templars you force the army to move with the speed of a battlecruiser) and the production capability (it all come from gateways), but they are bad in big blobs fight so you must trade armys a lot (zealots for MMM's)... Tails played the army comp the way it is meant to be played.
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Wow, Tails lost alot of probes there, Inca should be able to win if he techs correctly.
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On December 03 2011 23:16 Seeker wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2011 23:14 Shellshock1122 wrote:
what are the results so far? OP isnt updated oGsJookto < MVP_Tails oGSTheStC < MVP_Tails oGsTOP < MVP_Tails
On December 03 2011 23:14 clusen wrote:Yes Weee 4gate lol @shellshock Tails>Jookto Dual Sight Tails>STC Antiga Tails>TOP Bel'Shir Now Tails vs Inca Crossfire
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On December 03 2011 23:16 rpgalon wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2011 23:07 Asha` wrote:On December 03 2011 23:05 poorcloud wrote:
If top actually knew how to control his army/medivacs, he would have won this game long ago. If Tails teched to storm he'd have won a long time ago too =p I wonder if pure chargelot archon has been having a resurgence on KR since the EMP nerf. I know I have a lot more trouble with heavy archon play now...but I'm not a korean terran so I have no idea how much that's reflected in good play =p you can't realy tech to storm unles you put the templars inside a warp prism. the strenght of chargelot/archon is the movement speed and the production capability, but they are bad in big blobs fight so you must trade armys a lot (zealots for MMM's)... Tails played the army comp the way it is meant to be played.
You can 100% tech to storm.
You just bring a few templars with your chargelot/archon ball and toss out storms when you can i.e. Terran bottling behind a choke they want to force you through or feedback medivacs before morphing to archons. There's no reason not to mix some in.
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On December 03 2011 23:17 Itsmedudeman wrote:
Sick micro from Inca. Come on, i wanna see sC and DRG play
Is sC fine now? I heard that he had a relapse of his pneumothorax.
Well, InCa's as good as ever at PvP.
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On December 03 2011 23:11 Seronei wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2011 23:10 Applesqt wrote:
Looks like oGs will win this 4th set since Inca's pretty good at pvp Haven't seen a PVP from him since the 4 gate "fix". Pvp is so different from when he used to be sick in that matchup that it's hard to say how good he is.
Still looks pretty good to me...
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What happened? Stream died on me.
Last thing I saw was InCa's warp prism coming out
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On December 03 2011 23:20 Seeker wrote:
What happened? Stream died on me.
Last thing I saw was InCa's warp prism coming out
inCa just overwhelmed.
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On December 03 2011 23:20 Seeker wrote:
What happened? Stream died on me.
Last thing I saw was InCa's warp prism coming out
Puts 4 zealots in front of tails base, warps in from behind and attacks with the zealots in the front and the units in the back. He was carrying 4 zealots in the warm prism when he went to warp them in
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On December 03 2011 23:20 MCMXVI wrote:
We wont see MC, right? series is over if MVP wins one more, no?
It's BO11. You need 6 wins so theres 2 more players oGs can fill, probably MC and fOrGG
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On December 03 2011 23:19 Chemiczny84 wrote:gimme DRG !
yes!!!
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On December 03 2011 23:20 MCMXVI wrote:
We wont see MC, right? series is over if MVP wins one more, no?
Bo11
MVP needs to win 3 more games
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On December 03 2011 23:20 MCMXVI wrote:
We wont see MC, right? series is over if MVP wins one more, no?
I believe its bo11? if not that, then at least bo9, it's rare to see a bo7 for a team battle.
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Nooooo
DRG playing but Bundesliga starts in ~5 mins TT
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inca gonna upset DRG. calling it now
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On December 03 2011 23:22 Acronysis wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2011 23:20 MCMXVI wrote:
We wont see MC, right? series is over if MVP wins one more, no? I believe its bo11? if not that, then at least bo9, it's rare to see a bo7 for a team battle.
It's a bo11 so I hope DRG doesn't just kill everyone. I wanna see more games.
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On December 03 2011 23:22 Shellshock1122 wrote:
inca gonna upset DRG. calling it now
Well, considering how hard DRG shut down MC in MLG, I don't see InCa beating him unless he uses a really funky strategy or gets lucky with an all-in.
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Well Inca's PvP is still good, now is his PvZ still bad?
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can someone post results? .-. so irritating when OP doesn't update :p
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NaDa needs to come out : )
MC needs to come out as well
SuperNoVa too
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DRG still mining gas, I guess roaches incoming
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On December 03 2011 23:22 clusen wrote:
Nooooo
DRG playing but Bundesliga starts in ~5 mins TT
no good matches, though
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On December 03 2011 23:24 elwoodng wrote:
Well Inca's PvP is still good, now is his PvZ still bad?
he beat some zergs in the korean weekly. it's probably still not great but better than 0-13
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yeah, and if inca's match vs. nestea was any indcation (which i know is a ways back now), pvz may not be his best matchup =P
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On December 03 2011 23:24 Seeker wrote:
NaDa needs to come out : )
MC needs to come out as well
SuperNoVa too
you're forgetting ForGG
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twilight council going down? knowing inca.... 2 base dts!?
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Dark shrine. Yep that's Inca for you.
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On December 03 2011 23:25 Seeker wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2011 23:24 kusu wrote:
can someone post results? .-. so irritating when OP doesn't update :p OP passed out probably. He warned us about it too. He's been up since KSL of yesterday. So he saw KSL, NASL, GSL, and passed out probably As for the score, one second
tails > jookto
tails > thestc
tails > top
tails < inca
drg <> inca
3-1 colMVP
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Man, the korean commentator totally did not see the 3 zealots clashing with DRG's lings.
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On December 03 2011 23:27 Shellshock1122 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2011 23:25 Seeker wrote:On December 03 2011 23:24 kusu wrote:
can someone post results? .-. so irritating when OP doesn't update :p OP passed out probably. He warned us about it too. He's been up since KSL of yesterday. So he saw KSL, NASL, GSL, and passed out probably As for the score, one second tails > jookto tails > thestc tails > top tails < inca drg <> inca 3-1 colMVP
HAH! MINE'S PRETTIER!
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Hah dark shrine. Oh inca, you're so screwed
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On December 03 2011 23:24 Chemiczny84 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2011 23:22 clusen wrote:
Nooooo
DRG playing but Bundesliga starts in ~5 mins TT
no good matches, though
Bayern against Werder and Gladbach against Dortmund(without Reus tho) aka #3 vs 4 and 1 against 2 :p
I don't get DRG, gas before pool and mining gas the whole time when you go for a third doesn't make any sense on this map
€
Who would've expected that, Inca going for DT against Zerg :D
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who likes DTs more? Incontrol or Inca?
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On December 03 2011 23:28 clusen wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2011 23:24 Chemiczny84 wrote:On December 03 2011 23:22 clusen wrote:
Nooooo
DRG playing but Bundesliga starts in ~5 mins TT
no good matches, though Bayern against Werder and Gladbach against Dortmund(without Reus tho) aka #3 vs 4 and 1 against 2 :p I don't get DRG, gas before pool and mining gas the whole time when you go for a third doesn't make any sense on this map
Might've been a metagame move
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Hahaha Inca DT rushing Zerg. Now that brings me back ^_^
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Well....
Inca sure loves his DTs.
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no Inca DT turn into Inca dark ARCHOn
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On December 03 2011 23:28 Shellshock1122 wrote:
who likes DTs more? Incontrol or Inca?
No one likes DTs more than incontrol
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On December 03 2011 23:28 Seeker wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2011 23:27 Shellshock1122 wrote:On December 03 2011 23:25 Seeker wrote:On December 03 2011 23:24 kusu wrote:
can someone post results? .-. so irritating when OP doesn't update :p OP passed out probably. He warned us about it too. He's been up since KSL of yesterday. So he saw KSL, NASL, GSL, and passed out probably As for the score, one second tails > jookto tails > thestc tails > top tails < inca drg <> inca 3-1 colMVP HAH! MINE'S PRETTIER!
I was just trying to help T_T I thought by score in 1 sec you might not have remembered
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DRG didn't had any spore or I saw wrong ?
edit : I saw wrong
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The Inca Rule: Inca will go DTs in PvZ
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At least inca actually turned them into archons this time. It was prettier than running the DTs in regardless for 4 consecutive games lol.
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Thank god he turned back. I was wondering why he'd run purely archons and zealots into mass roaches. =)
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Poor DT
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My god that DT ! Even better than the marine last game xD
"Ohhhh, you prepared 60 zerglings and 20 roaches just for me ? nom nom nom.... Hey, no § not an overseer !!! NOT FAIR...!"
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On December 03 2011 23:28 Talionis wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2011 23:28 Seeker wrote:On December 03 2011 23:27 Shellshock1122 wrote:On December 03 2011 23:25 Seeker wrote:On December 03 2011 23:24 kusu wrote:
can someone post results? .-. so irritating when OP doesn't update :p OP passed out probably. He warned us about it too. He's been up since KSL of yesterday. So he saw KSL, NASL, GSL, and passed out probably As for the score, one second tails > jookto tails > thestc tails > top tails < inca drg <> inca 3-1 colMVP HAH! MINE'S PRETTIER! ![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/images/players/2307.jpg) TAiLS < Dual Sight> JookTo![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/images/players/1847.jpg) TAiLS < Antiga Shipyard> TheStC![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/images/players/70.jpg) TAiLS < Bel'Shir Beach Winter> TOP![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/images/players/1870.jpg) TAiLS < Crossfire SE> InCa![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/images/players/1855.jpg) ![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/images/players/2627.jpg) DongRaeGu < Daybreak> InCa
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On December 03 2011 16:38 MrCon wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2011 03:14 Resolve wrote:
I think the Lineup should be put under one spoiler then results in another... just like the BW threads? In both bw or sc2 you can't know the lineup of a team match before hand, winner format or not :o Pumped for this, KSL is doing a good job for its first week
On December 03 2011 04:08 VirgilSC2 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2011 03:14 Resolve wrote:
I think the Lineup should be put under one spoiler then results in another... just like the BW threads? Can't post the Line-Up in a Winner's League format, as it spoils the previous match every time. You're probably thinking of ProLeague format, where it's BoX where X = Number of Players sent to play. In Winners League a team can theoretically win an entire Bo11 with just one player.
Oh, I meant like these threads...
+ Show Spoiler +
But the OP looks fine now with the overall results thing, kinda, I guess... :x
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On December 03 2011 23:28 Talionis wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2011 23:28 Seeker wrote:On December 03 2011 23:27 Shellshock1122 wrote:On December 03 2011 23:25 Seeker wrote:On December 03 2011 23:24 kusu wrote:
can someone post results? .-. so irritating when OP doesn't update :p OP passed out probably. He warned us about it too. He's been up since KSL of yesterday. So he saw KSL, NASL, GSL, and passed out probably As for the score, one second tails > jookto tails > thestc tails > top tails < inca drg <> inca 3-1 colMVP HAH! MINE'S PRETTIER! TAiLS < Dual Sight> JookToTAiLS < Antiga Shipyard> TheStCTAiLS < Bel'Shir Beach Winter> TOPTAiLS < Crossfire SE> InCaDongRaeGu < Daybreak> InCa
Gosh, if only there were a website, maybe a wiki where results could be updated and no one would have to post the results 3 times in a single page.
If only...
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Nice haven't seen DRG use his sick mutas in a PvZ
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DRG's economy is insane. Might be too much to handle for Inca but we'll see.
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those zealots "we cannot hold!"
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On December 03 2011 23:31 Zea! wrote:
170 psi to 110...
That's pretty common in ZvP. Zerg often maxes out on Roaches while Protoss is at about 120 supply.
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On December 03 2011 23:32 Seeker wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2011 23:28 Talionis wrote:On December 03 2011 23:28 Seeker wrote:On December 03 2011 23:27 Shellshock1122 wrote:On December 03 2011 23:25 Seeker wrote:On December 03 2011 23:24 kusu wrote:
can someone post results? .-. so irritating when OP doesn't update :p OP passed out probably. He warned us about it too. He's been up since KSL of yesterday. So he saw KSL, NASL, GSL, and passed out probably As for the score, one second tails > jookto tails > thestc tails > top tails < inca drg <> inca 3-1 colMVP HAH! MINE'S PRETTIER! TAiLS < Dual Sight> JookToTAiLS < Antiga Shipyard> TheStCTAiLS < Bel'Shir Beach Winter> TOPTAiLS < Crossfire SE> InCaDongRaeGu < Daybreak> InCa
ggwp
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somebody saw what that archon drop did ? nothing ? :o
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rofl, the burrowed banelings.
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Inca won't have enough to keep up with the re-max of DRG, guess it should be game soon.
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Anyone find it funny that DRG has a bunch of rallied overlords behind inca's 3rd?
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Ahahaha DRG's natural.
He thought this through
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GG...... DRG's mutas are always so amazing.....
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EZ game for DRG. MVP 4-1 over oGs.
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What a shock, DRG beating Inca in ZvP after failed DT aggression ^_^
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i love watching DRG use mutas, inspires me to play zerg
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Those lots and Colossus ^.^ "the skies... they are blue !! Mutas !"
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Group: Wonder Girls
Song: Be My Baby
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Need oGsFin there :p
edit : bah MC
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oGs seem so strong overall but somehow they always have a hard time in teamwars... either way, hope they play MC and forGG now.
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Jang Min Chul something su mi da.
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Next Match:
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Man, this event is amazing. They're really not holding back. But they really should've sent supernova at DRG. Guess he's not playing today.
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lol obamatoss vs final boss
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If FroGG is the last oGs player, does that means MC is dethroned from the oGs kingdom :o
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On December 03 2011 23:39 HolydaKing wrote:
oGs seem so strong overall but somehow they always have a hard time in teamwars... either way, hope they play MC and forGG now.
I don't think that oGs looks strong, they did some time ago but nowadays many of their players are slumping/behind the curve
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On December 03 2011 23:37 Severian wrote:
Ahahaha DRG's natural.
He thought this through
To expand on this for anyone not watching: DRG's army was mostly Mutas, and InCa was attacking his third with a fairly large army. DRG decided not to bring his Mutas back, instead using them to finish off one of InCa's bases. This would've been a base race except, as the observer showed soon afterwards, DRG had about two dozen Spinecrawlers burrowed at his natural (leaving his third completely undefended) along with some Ling/Baneling. He planned that base trade ahead of time.
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On December 03 2011 23:40 MrCon wrote:
If FroGG is the last oGs player, does that means MC is dethroned from the oGs kingdom :o
Possibly.
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On December 03 2011 23:40 MrCon wrote:
If FroGG is the last oGs player, does that means MC is dethroned from the oGs kingdom :o
it may be that MC vs DRG is better than ForGG vs DRG, we all know how DRG ZvT is..
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On December 03 2011 23:39 Talionis wrote:
Time for the bosstoss
Boss? The only boss in the town is DongRaeGu.
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On December 03 2011 23:40 MrCon wrote:
If FroGG is the last oGs player, does that means MC is dethroned from the oGs kingdom :o
ribbit
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I love MC, but his PvZ is only good against Idra...
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On December 03 2011 23:41 bqm wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2011 23:40 MrCon wrote:
If FroGG is the last oGs player, does that means MC is dethroned from the oGs kingdom :o it may be that MC vs DRG is better than ForGG vs DRG, we all know how DRG ZvT is..
DRG's ZvP is better than his ZvT right now, easily.
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MC has been having lots of trouble with PvZ lately. Will be hard to take down DRG.
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On December 03 2011 23:41 bqm wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2011 23:40 MrCon wrote:
If FroGG is the last oGs player, does that means MC is dethroned from the oGs kingdom :o it may be that MC vs DRG is better than ForGG vs DRG, we all know how DRG ZvT is..
Yeah that's what I thought after writing the post ^^
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On December 03 2011 23:42 Itsmedudeman wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2011 23:41 bqm wrote:On December 03 2011 23:40 MrCon wrote:
If FroGG is the last oGs player, does that means MC is dethroned from the oGs kingdom :o it may be that MC vs DRG is better than ForGG vs DRG, we all know how DRG ZvT is.. DRG's ZvP is better than his ZvT right now, easily.
He said so, so you are right probably.
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On December 03 2011 23:41 bqm wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2011 23:40 MrCon wrote:
If FroGG is the last oGs player, does that means MC is dethroned from the oGs kingdom :o it may be that MC vs DRG is better than ForGG vs DRG, we all know how DRG ZvT is..
I want NaDa....
btw, it's fOrGG
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No english commentary? :/
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On December 03 2011 23:42 Itsmedudeman wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2011 23:41 bqm wrote:On December 03 2011 23:40 MrCon wrote:
If FroGG is the last oGs player, does that means MC is dethroned from the oGs kingdom :o it may be that MC vs DRG is better than ForGG vs DRG, we all know how DRG ZvT is.. DRG's ZvP is better than his ZvT right now, easily.
We havent seen ForGG TvZ, that might be his weak match up, even he said that Jookto is S class player, that might be the case here.
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On December 03 2011 23:43 bqm wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2011 23:42 Itsmedudeman wrote:On December 03 2011 23:41 bqm wrote:On December 03 2011 23:40 MrCon wrote:
If FroGG is the last oGs player, does that means MC is dethroned from the oGs kingdom :o it may be that MC vs DRG is better than ForGG vs DRG, we all know how DRG ZvT is.. DRG's ZvP is better than his ZvT right now, easily. We havent seen ForGG TvZ, that might be his weak match up, even he said that Jookto is S class player, that might be the case here.
ForGG said jookto is a code S level player? What interview?
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On December 03 2011 23:43 Seeker wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2011 23:41 bqm wrote:On December 03 2011 23:40 MrCon wrote:
If FroGG is the last oGs player, does that means MC is dethroned from the oGs kingdom :o it may be that MC vs DRG is better than ForGG vs DRG, we all know how DRG ZvT is.. I want NaDa.... btw, it's fOrGG
I pronounce it the Fionn's way, frog GG :D
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On December 03 2011 23:43 bqm wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2011 23:42 Itsmedudeman wrote:On December 03 2011 23:41 bqm wrote:On December 03 2011 23:40 MrCon wrote:
If FroGG is the last oGs player, does that means MC is dethroned from the oGs kingdom :o it may be that MC vs DRG is better than ForGG vs DRG, we all know how DRG ZvT is.. DRG's ZvP is better than his ZvT right now, easily. We havent seen ForGG TvZ, that might be his weak match up, even he said that Jookto is S class player, that might be the case here.
I don't think that is really the case, he has shown in one of the korean weeklies that his multitasking in TvZ is pretty good.
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In any case, even if only one game, DRG would be a good training game for frogger.
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On December 03 2011 23:44 Itsmedudeman wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2011 23:43 bqm wrote:On December 03 2011 23:42 Itsmedudeman wrote:On December 03 2011 23:41 bqm wrote:On December 03 2011 23:40 MrCon wrote:
If FroGG is the last oGs player, does that means MC is dethroned from the oGs kingdom :o it may be that MC vs DRG is better than ForGG vs DRG, we all know how DRG ZvT is.. DRG's ZvP is better than his ZvT right now, easily. We havent seen ForGG TvZ, that might be his weak match up, even he said that Jookto is S class player, that might be the case here. ForGG said jookto is a code S level player?
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=290978
interview with ForGG
he paired JookTo together with MVP, Nestea, MC, Leenock as some of the best players currently...
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On December 03 2011 23:44 Amornthep wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2011 23:43 bqm wrote:On December 03 2011 23:42 Itsmedudeman wrote:On December 03 2011 23:41 bqm wrote:On December 03 2011 23:40 MrCon wrote:
If FroGG is the last oGs player, does that means MC is dethroned from the oGs kingdom :o it may be that MC vs DRG is better than ForGG vs DRG, we all know how DRG ZvT is.. DRG's ZvP is better than his ZvT right now, easily. We havent seen ForGG TvZ, that might be his weak match up, even he said that Jookto is S class player, that might be the case here. I don't think that is really the case, he has shown in one of the korean weeklies that his multitasking in TvZ is pretty good.
He faces July next as well in GSL so he might have practiced a lot of TvZ. Then again, he might not want to give anything away
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On December 03 2011 23:44 MrCon wrote:
In any case, even if only one game, DRG would be a good training game for frogger.
Yeah, but he doesn't exactly want more games of him playing TvZ out there.
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fOrGG guys not ForGG, not frog GG, not forgg, not FORGG
it's fOrGG
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Don't see why fOrGG shouldn't be amazing at TvZ. He has the mechanics and multitasking to play the matchup perfectly imo.
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Fast 4 gates after expansion for MC, should be some pressure just after +1 weaps finishes.
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On December 03 2011 23:45 Seeker wrote:
fOrGG guys not ForGG, not frog GG, not forgg, not FORGG
it's fOrGG
It's Fin actually, he hasn't used fOrGG in like 4 years ?
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On December 03 2011 23:45 Seeker wrote:
fOrGG guys not ForGG, not frog GG, not forgg, not FORGG
it's fOrGG
Never_V?
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On December 03 2011 23:45 bqm wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2011 23:44 Itsmedudeman wrote:On December 03 2011 23:43 bqm wrote:On December 03 2011 23:42 Itsmedudeman wrote:On December 03 2011 23:41 bqm wrote:On December 03 2011 23:40 MrCon wrote:
If FroGG is the last oGs player, does that means MC is dethroned from the oGs kingdom :o it may be that MC vs DRG is better than ForGG vs DRG, we all know how DRG ZvT is.. DRG's ZvP is better than his ZvT right now, easily. We havent seen ForGG TvZ, that might be his weak match up, even he said that Jookto is S class player, that might be the case here. ForGG said jookto is a code S level player? http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=290978interview with ForGG he paired JookTo together with MVP, Nestea, MC, Leenock as some of the best players currently...
Wow, I haven't seen that interview yet. Thanks
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On December 03 2011 23:45 Seeker wrote:
fOrGG guys not ForGG, not frog GG, not forgg, not FORGG
it's fOrGG
Technically its oGsFin.
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On December 03 2011 23:47 SarcasmMonster wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2011 23:45 Seeker wrote:
fOrGG guys not ForGG, not frog GG, not forgg, not FORGG
it's fOrGG Technically its oGsFin.
Your name is perfect for this situation
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Cannons at the watchtower? hmm..
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Nice, making cannons at the forward pylon. How very MC.
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Nice proxy cannons from MC.
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Lol cannons in the centre of the map
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MC going on the offense. Me like
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Fin is a shit name i don't care i'm calling him fOrGG till the end of the world.
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On December 03 2011 23:45 Seeker wrote:
fOrGG guys not ForGG, not frog GG, not forgg, not FORGG
it's fOrGG
And I thought it was 4gG
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Why no 3th for MC ?......
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DRG is looking to do some sort of flank, be careful MC.
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MC with the typical "3rds are for weaklings"
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I feel like DRG just has nothing to kill the Colossi.
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This 2 base colossus all in is so hard to deal with for zerg. More protosses should all in this way man.
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GO ATTACK THE 3RD MC, GET A BETTER POSITION!!
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He make too many zerglings which is equal to 0 vs Colossus
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Would have like some third base from MC, but well a win is a win. Strong play still.
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Depressing lol
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Oh my god. MC's micro and FF! Godly..
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do you guys think they will send out sC next?
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Damn, MC's micro/forcefields are too good. Most protosses would have just lost all their colossus in that final battle.
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games like this are why I love baneling drops :o with so few stalkers due to 2 base colossus it's like impossible to stop them from decimating your sentries and then losing your whole army.
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Those colossus were worth every penny.
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On December 03 2011 23:50 Moralez wrote:
2 base all in classic mc <3
That wasn't an all-in at all... he just had to kill a few units and pull back if he felt safe. The whole point was to prevent DRG from massing drones or teching, which it did admirably. Sure, it was very aggressive, but it wasn't an all-in.
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I liked how always 1 collosus in the back was covering the others from flanks. MC fighting!
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Wow love MC walling off his entrance every time he leaves..seems like DRG was actually aiming for that
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On December 03 2011 23:53 SeaSwift wrote:That wasn't an all-in at all... he just had to kill a few units and pull back if he felt safe. The whole point was to prevent DRG from massing drones or teching, which it did admirably. Sure, it was very aggressive, but it wasn't an all-in.
Depends on your definition of all-in, he cut probes and never wanted to take a third
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So, someone was saying earlier about a DRG all-kill ;P
Not any more, bitches! Jang Min Chul has come to Forcefield your souls.
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On December 03 2011 23:53 SeaSwift wrote:
That wasn't an all-in at all... he just had to kill a few units and pull back if he felt safe. The whole point was to prevent DRG from massing drones or teching, which it did admirably. Sure, it was very aggressive, but it wasn't an all-in.
Well he stopped at 46 probes and never made a single probe more.
But still a really cool build, I liked the forward cannons ^^
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MVPVampire is zerg isn't he ?
edit : lol, his alias being "Protoss" I guess I'm wrong -_-
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On December 03 2011 23:54 deathzz wrote:
lol who's mvpvampire?
A 4 Gates master surely xDDD
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On December 03 2011 23:53 elwoodng wrote:
wow MC must be the best 2 base player in the world. That attack was super delayed, how did he still crushed DRG with that?
with micro
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On December 03 2011 23:54 deathzz wrote:
lol who's mvpvampire?
Some random protoss player who can't even win PvP against bad protosses in Gisado Clan #1. Did MvP team decide to dodge a map or do they actually have a plan? I don't know. It seems like former to me.
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On December 03 2011 23:53 SeaSwift wrote:That wasn't an all-in at all... he just had to kill a few units and pull back if he felt safe. The whole point was to prevent DRG from massing drones or teching, which it did admirably. Sure, it was very aggressive, but it wasn't an all-in.
Classic fanboys saying thats not all in when any1 can see that was all inish.
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I really thought MC was going to get flanked to death there...great control and forcefields!
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I guess Morrow talked about that kind of 2 base play when he said Sage always kill him with his 2 bases pushes.
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seriously mc is a awesome guy. go see his interview at gomtv website. totally hilarious
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Ah, so that's who the 'Protoss' guy is on ladder.
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On December 03 2011 23:53 SeaSwift wrote:That wasn't an all-in at all... he just had to kill a few units and pull back if he felt safe. The whole point was to prevent DRG from massing drones or teching, which it did admirably. Sure, it was very aggressive, but it wasn't an all-in.
it was... He had to do major damage... so it was an allin
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On December 03 2011 23:53 elwoodng wrote:
wow MC must be the best 2 base player in the world. That attack was super delayed, how did he still crushed DRG with that?
True that, MC has a very good 2 base play. I think the key is to not lose units. If you give for free even a couple sentries in the middle of the map, you're done for, but MC has very good micro.
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On December 03 2011 23:54 rpgalon wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2011 23:53 elwoodng wrote:
wow MC must be the best 2 base player in the world. That attack was super delayed, how did he still crushed DRG with that? with micro the ability to surround his own army with 20 force fields per surround
Fixed. The fact that MC put a lot of effort in keeping all his sentries alive must not be omitted though. The actual "skill" part was to keep the sentries alive.
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On December 03 2011 23:55 Moralez wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2011 23:53 SeaSwift wrote:On December 03 2011 23:50 Moralez wrote:
2 base all in classic mc <3 That wasn't an all-in at all... he just had to kill a few units and pull back if he felt safe. The whole point was to prevent DRG from massing drones or teching, which it did admirably. Sure, it was very aggressive, but it wasn't an all-in. Classic fanboys saying thats not all in when any1 can see that was all inish.
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On December 03 2011 23:53 elwoodng wrote:
wow MC must be the best 2 base player in the world. That attack was super delayed, how did he still crushed DRG with that?
He faked some 2 base gateways push at first, which preventing Dongraegu from making too many drones,
Then he camp at the tower with 2 cannons and wait for 2-3 colossus before push. Classic PvZ
Either way even if he do not attack and taking a third base he will still be a little ahead, this is not all in at all, just constant pressure build, he have 48 probes while DRG just have 52 probes, he overmake Lings I think, Roach is much better in this case.
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On December 03 2011 23:55 Moralez wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2011 23:53 SeaSwift wrote:On December 03 2011 23:50 Moralez wrote:
2 base all in classic mc <3 That wasn't an all-in at all... he just had to kill a few units and pull back if he felt safe. The whole point was to prevent DRG from massing drones or teching, which it did admirably. Sure, it was very aggressive, but it wasn't an all-in. Classic fanboys saying thats not all in when any1 can see that was all inish.
well i dun tink anybody wants to play a macro game against a zerg or drg for dat matter
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On December 03 2011 23:55 Moralez wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2011 23:53 SeaSwift wrote:On December 03 2011 23:50 Moralez wrote:
2 base all in classic mc <3 That wasn't an all-in at all... he just had to kill a few units and pull back if he felt safe. The whole point was to prevent DRG from massing drones or teching, which it did admirably. Sure, it was very aggressive, but it wasn't an all-in. Classic fanboys saying thats not all in when any1 can see that was all inish.
I am a fanboy, but that was not an all-in. All-in is a word thrown around FAR too much, and I don't see what you mean by "all inish". You don't get varying degrees of all-in, with a little hint of all-in here, a dash there. Either something is all-in or it isn't.
He cut probes. He had no intention of taking a 3rd any time soon. But he wasn't all-in. If DRG had made Corruptors or had too good an army MC would have retreated, abandoned his forward pylon and taken his third with Colossus tech.
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MC's PvZ looks so uninspired compared to his former teammate Hero.
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What's the result? OP should be banned -_-
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On December 03 2011 23:57 SeaSwift wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2011 23:55 Moralez wrote:On December 03 2011 23:53 SeaSwift wrote:On December 03 2011 23:50 Moralez wrote:
2 base all in classic mc <3 That wasn't an all-in at all... he just had to kill a few units and pull back if he felt safe. The whole point was to prevent DRG from massing drones or teching, which it did admirably. Sure, it was very aggressive, but it wasn't an all-in. Classic fanboys saying thats not all in when any1 can see that was all inish. I am a fanboy, but that was not an all-in. All-in is a word thrown around FAR too much, and I don't see what you mean by "all inish". You don't get varying degrees of all-in, with a little hint of all-in here, a dash there. Either something is all-in or it isn't. He cut probes. He had no intention of taking a 3rd any time soon. But he wasn't all-in. If DRG had made Corruptors or had too good an army MC would have retreated, abandoned his forward pylon and taken his third with Colossus tech.
He would be to far behind to take this third after that,it would just died.
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On December 03 2011 23:56 deathzz wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2011 23:55 Moralez wrote:On December 03 2011 23:53 SeaSwift wrote:On December 03 2011 23:50 Moralez wrote:
2 base all in classic mc <3 That wasn't an all-in at all... he just had to kill a few units and pull back if he felt safe. The whole point was to prevent DRG from massing drones or teching, which it did admirably. Sure, it was very aggressive, but it wasn't an all-in. Classic fanboys saying thats not all in when any1 can see that was all inish. well i dun tink anybody wants to play a macro game against a zerg or drg for dat matter
Actually the fact that 120 supply protoss army regularly crushes maxed zerg army makes me think otherwise.
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On December 03 2011 23:57 SarcasmMonster wrote:
MC's PvZ looks so uninspired compared to his former teammate Hero.
It's his style.
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On December 03 2011 23:58 Odoakar wrote:
What's the result? OP should be banned -_-
0_o
Banned? For not putting up the results fast enough...? How many LR threads do you make?
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It means he has no results in the GSL as of yet. Doesn't mean he is bad, plenty of really good Code B players. iirc, his ID Protoss has been pretty high on the KR ladder.
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On December 03 2011 23:57 SeaSwift wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2011 23:55 Moralez wrote:On December 03 2011 23:53 SeaSwift wrote:On December 03 2011 23:50 Moralez wrote:
2 base all in classic mc <3 That wasn't an all-in at all... he just had to kill a few units and pull back if he felt safe. The whole point was to prevent DRG from massing drones or teching, which it did admirably. Sure, it was very aggressive, but it wasn't an all-in. Classic fanboys saying thats not all in when any1 can see that was all inish. I am a fanboy, but that was not an all-in. All-in is a word thrown around FAR too much, and I don't see what you mean by "all inish". You don't get varying degrees of all-in, with a little hint of all-in here, a dash there. Either something is all-in or it isn't. He cut probes. He had no intention of taking a 3rd any time soon. But he wasn't all-in. If DRG had made Corruptors or had too good an army MC would have retreated, abandoned his forward pylon and taken his third with Colossus tech.
and not been able to win the game. Not possible against a human being with a brain. So he would have lost. So the consequence of this push would have been that he lost = all in.
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On December 03 2011 23:57 SarcasmMonster wrote:
MC's PvZ looks so uninspired compared to his former teammate Hero.
Naniwa got to providence finals doing this every game. Its not pretty but extremely effective.
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On December 03 2011 23:58 GiftPflanZe wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2011 23:57 SeaSwift wrote:On December 03 2011 23:55 Moralez wrote:On December 03 2011 23:53 SeaSwift wrote:On December 03 2011 23:50 Moralez wrote:
2 base all in classic mc <3 That wasn't an all-in at all... he just had to kill a few units and pull back if he felt safe. The whole point was to prevent DRG from massing drones or teching, which it did admirably. Sure, it was very aggressive, but it wasn't an all-in. Classic fanboys saying thats not all in when any1 can see that was all inish. I am a fanboy, but that was not an all-in. All-in is a word thrown around FAR too much, and I don't see what you mean by "all inish". You don't get varying degrees of all-in, with a little hint of all-in here, a dash there. Either something is all-in or it isn't. He cut probes. He had no intention of taking a 3rd any time soon. But he wasn't all-in. If DRG had made Corruptors or had too good an army MC would have retreated, abandoned his forward pylon and taken his third with Colossus tech. He would be to far behind to take this third after that,it would just died.
he is not, DRG have ONLY 52 drones compare to MC 48, if he turn back and make a third which he did when he pushed, he is still ahead.
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On December 03 2011 23:55 Moralez wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2011 23:53 SeaSwift wrote:On December 03 2011 23:50 Moralez wrote:
2 base all in classic mc <3 That wasn't an all-in at all... he just had to kill a few units and pull back if he felt safe. The whole point was to prevent DRG from massing drones or teching, which it did admirably. Sure, it was very aggressive, but it wasn't an all-in. Classic fanboys saying thats not all in when any1 can see that was all inish.
it was all in, but any all in can transition into normal play... because the definition of all in people are using in SC2 is wrong.
had MC killed the 3rd expansion of DRG, he could easily get a third base and move the probes from the main (almost mind-out) to that base, and play ahead.
the thing in PvZ is usually, when you can kill the 3rd base of the zerg... you can kill the zerg anyway...
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On December 03 2011 23:59 SeaSwift wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2011 23:58 Odoakar wrote:
What's the result? OP should be banned -_- 0_o Banned? For not putting up the results fast enough...? How many LR threads do you make?
He's been up since KSL of yesterday. Cut him some slack Odoakar
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On December 04 2011 00:00 ZenithM wrote:
No obs?
Well...
Lol.
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On December 03 2011 23:57 SeaSwift wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2011 23:55 Moralez wrote:On December 03 2011 23:53 SeaSwift wrote:On December 03 2011 23:50 Moralez wrote:
2 base all in classic mc <3 That wasn't an all-in at all... he just had to kill a few units and pull back if he felt safe. The whole point was to prevent DRG from massing drones or teching, which it did admirably. Sure, it was very aggressive, but it wasn't an all-in. Classic fanboys saying thats not all in when any1 can see that was all inish. I am a fanboy, but that was not an all-in. All-in is a word thrown around FAR too much, and I don't see what you mean by "all inish". You don't get varying degrees of all-in, with a little hint of all-in here, a dash there. Either something is all-in or it isn't. He cut probes. He had no intention of taking a 3rd any time soon. But he wasn't all-in. If DRG had made Corruptors or had too good an army MC would have retreated, abandoned his forward pylon and taken his third with Colossus tech.
My credential for all-in: Whether HwangSin would get bashed for 65 pages for winning with the same build against someone of DRG's caliber or not.
Result: All-in to the bone.
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LOL that snipe at that sentry then the robo gg
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Nicely done, MC ! He's still quite lucky Vampire never made an observer until it was too late, but this FF at the ramp was BOSS §
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epic fail ff rofl and now robo is dead.
oGs 3-4
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Holy shit MC placing that ff so DTs can get through and not stalkers o.O what a baller
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On December 03 2011 23:59 SeaSwift wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2011 23:58 Odoakar wrote:
What's the result? OP should be banned -_- 0_o Banned? For not putting up the results fast enough...? How many LR threads do you make?
We're 7 games in, OPs should update their posts in a timely manner. This is extra annoying when it's a Korean match where some names are incomprehensible to non-Korean viewers.
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ppl who say Inca has best pvp ....
I kind of agree with you
but u know
u need to ask Mc about that
haha
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Vampires aren't supposed to be stronger at midnight ?
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On December 03 2011 23:59 Djagulingu wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2011 23:56 deathzz wrote:On December 03 2011 23:55 Moralez wrote:On December 03 2011 23:53 SeaSwift wrote:On December 03 2011 23:50 Moralez wrote:
2 base all in classic mc <3 That wasn't an all-in at all... he just had to kill a few units and pull back if he felt safe. The whole point was to prevent DRG from massing drones or teching, which it did admirably. Sure, it was very aggressive, but it wasn't an all-in. Classic fanboys saying thats not all in when any1 can see that was all inish. well i dun tink anybody wants to play a macro game against a zerg or drg for dat matter Actually the fact that 120 supply protoss army regularly crushes maxed zerg army makes me think otherwise.
Maxed army with roaches and glings against ff and colossi yeah. But maxed infestors / BL is a different thing.
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I went to the bathroom and it was over wtf? I though that was a macro map damnit even PvP
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I thought that FF is from Vampire LOL hahaha it is a fake FF from MC to let the DT in hahaha
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On December 04 2011 00:02 double620 wrote:
ppl who say Inca has best pvp ....
I kind of agree with you
but u know
u need to ask Mc about that
haha
after asking mc u can try huk too
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MC vs MVPMonster xD revenge time
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On December 04 2011 00:03 Assaulter wrote:
MC vs MVPMonster xD revenge time
is that the zerg who knocked MC out in first round of Code A to Code B?
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On December 04 2011 00:03 deathzz wrote:Show nested quote +On December 04 2011 00:02 double620 wrote:
ppl who say Inca has best pvp ....
I kind of agree with you
but u know
u need to ask Mc about that
haha
after asking mc u can try huk too
HuK died to Hasuobs today in NASL :/
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On December 04 2011 00:02 double620 wrote:
ppl who say Inca has best pvp ....
I kind of agree with you
but u know
u need to ask Mc about that
haha
Well these days MC gets rolled by HuK each time they play, the same HuK which loses quite frequently in PvP atm...
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On December 04 2011 00:03 bqm wrote:is that the zerg who knocked MC out in first round of Code A to Code B?
yeah it's him
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PvZ on Dual Sight, it's gonna be tough
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On December 04 2011 00:01 Rammstorm wrote:
FAIL FF, lol
It's FF from MC, not Vampire, pretty sure it was intentional.
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On December 04 2011 00:03 bqm wrote:is that the zerg who knocked MC out in first round of Code A to Code B?
Liquipedia : MC made his debut in Code A during GSL October and lost to Monster 1-2 in the Round of 32, becoming the first Champion to be demoted to Code B.
So yes, you are correct
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On December 04 2011 00:03 bqm wrote:is that the zerg who knocked MC out in first round of Code A to Code B?
I'd rather call him the zerg who knocked MC out of Code A so that MC could use a much easier way getting back to code s.
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On December 03 2011 23:59 Djagulingu wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2011 23:56 deathzz wrote:On December 03 2011 23:55 Moralez wrote:On December 03 2011 23:53 SeaSwift wrote:On December 03 2011 23:50 Moralez wrote:
2 base all in classic mc <3 That wasn't an all-in at all... he just had to kill a few units and pull back if he felt safe. The whole point was to prevent DRG from massing drones or teching, which it did admirably. Sure, it was very aggressive, but it wasn't an all-in. Classic fanboys saying thats not all in when any1 can see that was all inish. well i dun tink anybody wants to play a macro game against a zerg or drg for dat matter Actually the fact that 120 supply protoss army regularly crushes maxed zerg army makes me think otherwise.
no, it kill roaches... and only with forcefield + colossus.
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On December 04 2011 00:02 Gevna wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2011 23:59 Djagulingu wrote:On December 03 2011 23:56 deathzz wrote:On December 03 2011 23:55 Moralez wrote:On December 03 2011 23:53 SeaSwift wrote:On December 03 2011 23:50 Moralez wrote:
2 base all in classic mc <3 That wasn't an all-in at all... he just had to kill a few units and pull back if he felt safe. The whole point was to prevent DRG from massing drones or teching, which it did admirably. Sure, it was very aggressive, but it wasn't an all-in. Classic fanboys saying thats not all in when any1 can see that was all inish. well i dun tink anybody wants to play a macro game against a zerg or drg for dat matter Actually the fact that 120 supply protoss army regularly crushes maxed zerg army makes me think otherwise. Maxed army with roaches and glings against ff and colossi yeah. But maxed infestors / BL is a different thing.
Yeah. DRG had probably less army value all game long. 52 drones were not enough.
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On December 03 2011 23:57 SeaSwift wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2011 23:55 Moralez wrote:On December 03 2011 23:53 SeaSwift wrote:On December 03 2011 23:50 Moralez wrote:
2 base all in classic mc <3 That wasn't an all-in at all... he just had to kill a few units and pull back if he felt safe. The whole point was to prevent DRG from massing drones or teching, which it did admirably. Sure, it was very aggressive, but it wasn't an all-in. Classic fanboys saying thats not all in when any1 can see that was all inish. I am a fanboy, but that was not an all-in. All-in is a word thrown around FAR too much, and I don't see what you mean by "all inish". You don't get varying degrees of all-in, with a little hint of all-in here, a dash there. Either something is all-in or it isn't. He cut probes. He had no intention of taking a 3rd any time soon. But he wasn't all-in. If DRG had made Corruptors or had too good an army MC would have retreated, abandoned his forward pylon and taken his third with Colossus tech.
I rest my case.
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There is a reason why Mc always has to play PVZ in dual sight
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On December 04 2011 00:05 Moralez wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2011 23:57 SeaSwift wrote:On December 03 2011 23:55 Moralez wrote:On December 03 2011 23:53 SeaSwift wrote:On December 03 2011 23:50 Moralez wrote:
2 base all in classic mc <3 That wasn't an all-in at all... he just had to kill a few units and pull back if he felt safe. The whole point was to prevent DRG from massing drones or teching, which it did admirably. Sure, it was very aggressive, but it wasn't an all-in. Classic fanboys saying thats not all in when any1 can see that was all inish. I am a fanboy, but that was not an all-in. All-in is a word thrown around FAR too much, and I don't see what you mean by "all inish". You don't get varying degrees of all-in, with a little hint of all-in here, a dash there. Either something is all-in or it isn't. He cut probes. He had no intention of taking a 3rd any time soon. But he wasn't all-in. If DRG had made Corruptors or had too good an army MC would have retreated, abandoned his forward pylon and taken his third with Colossus tech. I rest my case.
Your signature told me that you are a DRG fanboy too, and ZERG fanboys in general, so your argument will be biased as well.
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On December 04 2011 00:05 Moralez wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2011 23:57 SeaSwift wrote:On December 03 2011 23:55 Moralez wrote:On December 03 2011 23:53 SeaSwift wrote:On December 03 2011 23:50 Moralez wrote:
2 base all in classic mc <3 That wasn't an all-in at all... he just had to kill a few units and pull back if he felt safe. The whole point was to prevent DRG from massing drones or teching, which it did admirably. Sure, it was very aggressive, but it wasn't an all-in. Classic fanboys saying thats not all in when any1 can see that was all inish. I am a fanboy, but that was not an all-in. All-in is a word thrown around FAR too much, and I don't see what you mean by "all inish". You don't get varying degrees of all-in, with a little hint of all-in here, a dash there. Either something is all-in or it isn't. He cut probes. He had no intention of taking a 3rd any time soon. But he wasn't all-in. If DRG had made Corruptors or had too good an army MC would have retreated, abandoned his forward pylon and taken his third with Colossus tech. I rest my case.
Unless you kill all your bases, send in all your workers and /dance before engaging the enemy it is not an all in.
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Sorry i was afk. Is this the first Game of MC?
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On December 04 2011 00:07 Ghrimnar wrote:
Sorry i was afk. Is this the first Game of MC?
Third
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On December 04 2011 00:07 Ghrimnar wrote:
Sorry i was afk. Is this the first Game of MC?
Third. First was another PvZ vs DRG, 2nd was a PvP vs Vampire.
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On December 04 2011 00:07 Drazerk wrote:Show nested quote +On December 04 2011 00:05 Moralez wrote:On December 03 2011 23:57 SeaSwift wrote:On December 03 2011 23:55 Moralez wrote:On December 03 2011 23:53 SeaSwift wrote:On December 03 2011 23:50 Moralez wrote:
2 base all in classic mc <3 That wasn't an all-in at all... he just had to kill a few units and pull back if he felt safe. The whole point was to prevent DRG from massing drones or teching, which it did admirably. Sure, it was very aggressive, but it wasn't an all-in. Classic fanboys saying thats not all in when any1 can see that was all inish. I am a fanboy, but that was not an all-in. All-in is a word thrown around FAR too much, and I don't see what you mean by "all inish". You don't get varying degrees of all-in, with a little hint of all-in here, a dash there. Either something is all-in or it isn't. He cut probes. He had no intention of taking a 3rd any time soon. But he wasn't all-in. If DRG had made Corruptors or had too good an army MC would have retreated, abandoned his forward pylon and taken his third with Colossus tech. I rest my case. Unless you kill all your bases, send in all your workers and /dance before engaging the enemy it is not an all in.
Yes Drazerk you're right, its never all in on tl LR threads
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On December 04 2011 00:07 SeaSwift wrote:Show nested quote +On December 04 2011 00:07 Ghrimnar wrote:
Sorry i was afk. Is this the first Game of MC? Third. First was another PvZ vs DRG, 2nd was a PvP vs Vampire.
After that he played PvP against MVPVampire too
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On December 04 2011 00:07 Ghrimnar wrote:
Sorry i was afk. Is this the first Game of MC?
Third game. First was against DRG second was against Vampire
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On December 04 2011 00:08 Moralez wrote:Show nested quote +On December 04 2011 00:07 Drazerk wrote:On December 04 2011 00:05 Moralez wrote:On December 03 2011 23:57 SeaSwift wrote:On December 03 2011 23:55 Moralez wrote:On December 03 2011 23:53 SeaSwift wrote:On December 03 2011 23:50 Moralez wrote:
2 base all in classic mc <3 That wasn't an all-in at all... he just had to kill a few units and pull back if he felt safe. The whole point was to prevent DRG from massing drones or teching, which it did admirably. Sure, it was very aggressive, but it wasn't an all-in. Classic fanboys saying thats not all in when any1 can see that was all inish. I am a fanboy, but that was not an all-in. All-in is a word thrown around FAR too much, and I don't see what you mean by "all inish". You don't get varying degrees of all-in, with a little hint of all-in here, a dash there. Either something is all-in or it isn't. He cut probes. He had no intention of taking a 3rd any time soon. But he wasn't all-in. If DRG had made Corruptors or had too good an army MC would have retreated, abandoned his forward pylon and taken his third with Colossus tech. I rest my case. Unless you kill all your bases, send in all your workers and /dance before engaging the enemy it is not an all in. Yes Drazerk you're right, its never all in on tl LR threads
Especially when it's done to zerg players.
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On December 04 2011 00:07 Drazerk wrote:Show nested quote +On December 04 2011 00:05 Moralez wrote:On December 03 2011 23:57 SeaSwift wrote:On December 03 2011 23:55 Moralez wrote:On December 03 2011 23:53 SeaSwift wrote:On December 03 2011 23:50 Moralez wrote:
2 base all in classic mc <3 That wasn't an all-in at all... he just had to kill a few units and pull back if he felt safe. The whole point was to prevent DRG from massing drones or teching, which it did admirably. Sure, it was very aggressive, but it wasn't an all-in. Classic fanboys saying thats not all in when any1 can see that was all inish. I am a fanboy, but that was not an all-in. All-in is a word thrown around FAR too much, and I don't see what you mean by "all inish". You don't get varying degrees of all-in, with a little hint of all-in here, a dash there. Either something is all-in or it isn't. He cut probes. He had no intention of taking a 3rd any time soon. But he wasn't all-in. If DRG had made Corruptors or had too good an army MC would have retreated, abandoned his forward pylon and taken his third with Colossus tech. I rest my case. Unless you kill all your bases, send in all your workers and /dance before engaging the enemy it is not an all in.
NOT ENOUGH!!! unless you don't kill every building you own but one that is IN your opponents base (so he can kill it easily if your push fails) it is not an allin!!!!
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MC is still as good as he was :D
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how was MC vs DRG? recommend??
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I want to see MC take this. It would be good for him after falling out of Code S again
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Monster going for hydra-nydus all-in. Hah.
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A nydus worm? lol, hope MC crushes it
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On December 04 2011 00:10 sjperera wrote:
how was MC vs DRG? recommend??
classic PvZ and text book PvZ from MC, recommended
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On December 04 2011 00:10 sjperera wrote:
how was MC vs DRG? recommend??
Eh......... hmmm........ it was average. MC was on 2 base, DRG on 3. Colossi/stalker/zeal/sentry vs roach/ling
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Hopefully MC scouts the nydus in time
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MC lost to Monster in Code A because of Nydus in base hahaha
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Lol last mission, ALL IN
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shit play from MC, why he let the nydus??? but good hold anyway
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Artosis pylon right there.
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That was actually quite a good hold.
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On December 04 2011 00:11 Rammstorm wrote:Lol last mission, ALL IN
I was just playing that lol
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i don't know why he moved halfway across the map with just mass Sentry and 2 Zealots... that could have died to anything.
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terrible map to do nydus lol
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what was that like 4 or 5 nyduses?
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Just nydus again, MC may have held but he sustained quite a bit of economic damage.
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On December 04 2011 00:13 Drazerk wrote:
what was that like 4 or 5 nyduses?
more like 3
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why you go hydras and nydus in dual sight??? standard play isn't enought?
it's like DT expand
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MC grab a 3rd already
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I can't tell who's ahead right now. I'd say MC, but there's no way you can safely take a 3rd on this map, so...
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On December 04 2011 00:13 SeaSwift wrote:
i don't know why he moved halfway across the map with just mass Sentry and 2 Zealots... that could have died to anything.
he can FF vs lings, Hydra is slow, he may die to roach but there is no roach.
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lol why was that sentry like 200 ft ahead of the rest of the army?
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WTF! HOW DID THAT PROBE GET IN THERE?
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wtf how is there a pylon in zerg main.
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How did MC manage to get that Pylon in monster's main?
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MC's so good
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lol magic pylon / probe
MC got his revenge!
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what de fu_k happen LOL MC you are boss FF
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I didn't expect that all-in to be so effective, MC's forcefields are truly terrifying.
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On December 04 2011 00:15 Seeker wrote:
WTF! HOW DID THAT PROBE GET IN THERE?
Seriously, how?
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On December 04 2011 00:14 Seeker wrote:
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MC grab a 3rd already
lol. we're watching MC play well again. Don't count on seeing a 3rd except maybe in PvT
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On December 04 2011 00:16 Amornthep wrote:
I didn't expect that all-in to be so effective, MC's forcefields are truly terrifying.
I think Monster is pretty far behind after that Nydus hydra play..
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that probe. sneakiest probe ever. how the FUCK did it get in there.
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Guys, it's not all in. MC didn't kill all his buildings except the pylon in Monster's main (so that monster could kill it if the attack failed and won easily), pull all his probes and /dance before the engagement.
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i saw NADA in the chat o_O
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Massive yawn from the caster there ^_^
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MC vs Noblesse next, show us your PvT MC!
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On December 04 2011 00:17 bqm wrote:Show nested quote +On December 04 2011 00:16 Amornthep wrote:
I didn't expect that all-in to be so effective, MC's forcefields are truly terrifying. I think Monster is pretty far behind after that Nydus hydra play..
He was ahead on drones but his army supply was pretty bad. I think monster could have had that game if his nydus didn't get spotted.
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On December 04 2011 00:16 Amornthep wrote:
I didn't expect that all-in to be so effective, MC's forcefields are truly terrifying.
lol... Monster was dead after his nydus allin with mannerhydras failed... Just a question of time.
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On December 04 2011 00:17 parazice wrote:
i saw NADA in the chat o_O
Yeah!
I'm guessing no fOrGG
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On December 04 2011 00:18 poorcloud wrote:Show nested quote +On December 04 2011 00:17 bqm wrote:On December 04 2011 00:16 Amornthep wrote:
I didn't expect that all-in to be so effective, MC's forcefields are truly terrifying. I think Monster is pretty far behind after that Nydus hydra play.. He was ahead on drones but his army supply was pretty bad. I think monster could have had that game if his nydus didn't get spotted.
Well, thats the thing with the nydus...
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Even Noblesse can take down Mc...
How is he going to take fOrgg??
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On December 04 2011 00:17 bqm wrote:Show nested quote +On December 04 2011 00:16 Amornthep wrote:
I didn't expect that all-in to be so effective, MC's forcefields are truly terrifying. I think Monster is pretty far behind after that Nydus hydra play..
I thought they were pretty even considering how much probes MC lost and how Monster still had alot of units at that point.
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Spot Nada in the chat, seem like he will be oGs last player if MC lose, and it might not happen today. I dont think fOrGG will play, he has Code A next days so he might not want to play fun event.
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Oh, revenge match? Noblesse knocked MC out of Code S with a 2 rax all-in.
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Whats the score now? With pretty liquipedia icons plox! :D
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Can oGs use Liquid players?
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On December 04 2011 00:18 poorcloud wrote:Show nested quote +On December 04 2011 00:17 bqm wrote:On December 04 2011 00:16 Amornthep wrote:
I didn't expect that all-in to be so effective, MC's forcefields are truly terrifying. I think Monster is pretty far behind after that Nydus hydra play.. He was ahead on drones but his army supply was pretty bad. I think monster could have had that game if his nydus didn't get spotted.
Yeah, but he had no good tech vs protoss units (infestor, roach) and less production (2hatch), so no chance of coming back...
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Well, I think oGs has taken this team battle. If Noblesse beats MC (he did before in Code S in a Bo1), he's got to get through fOrGG and Nada. Not likely.
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On December 04 2011 00:18 Caesarion wrote:
Oh, revenge match? Noblesse knocked MC out of Code S with a 2 rax all-in.
lol.... what's with all these revenge matches?
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On December 04 2011 00:19 sjperera wrote:
crossfire... cute 1-1-1?
hopefully that means MC going penix
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On December 04 2011 00:19 Seeker wrote:Show nested quote +On December 04 2011 00:18 Caesarion wrote:
Oh, revenge match? Noblesse knocked MC out of Code S with a 2 rax all-in. lol.... what's with all these revenge matches?
MC has a lot of grudges
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On December 04 2011 00:19 Big J wrote:Show nested quote +On December 04 2011 00:18 poorcloud wrote:On December 04 2011 00:17 bqm wrote:On December 04 2011 00:16 Amornthep wrote:
I didn't expect that all-in to be so effective, MC's forcefields are truly terrifying. I think Monster is pretty far behind after that Nydus hydra play.. He was ahead on drones but his army supply was pretty bad. I think monster could have had that game if his nydus didn't get spotted. Yeah, but he had no good tech vs protoss units (infestor, roach) and less production (2hatch), so no chance of coming back...
I think he actually had 3 hatches, but his tech/army was definitely far behind. I'm glad MC didn't try to take a 3rd there, that would have been awful to watch
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On December 04 2011 00:19 Seeker wrote:Show nested quote +On December 04 2011 00:18 Caesarion wrote:
Oh, revenge match? Noblesse knocked MC out of Code S with a 2 rax all-in. lol.... what's with all these revenge matches?
Haha, seems like MC has a lot of rivalries.
It just means he's played a heck of a lot of games.
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On December 04 2011 00:19 Seeker wrote:Show nested quote +On December 04 2011 00:18 Caesarion wrote:
Oh, revenge match? Noblesse knocked MC out of Code S with a 2 rax all-in. lol.... what's with all these revenge matches?
MC,u angry?
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On December 04 2011 00:19 SeaSwift wrote:
Well, I think oGs has taken this team battle. If Noblesse beats MC (he did before in Code S in a Bo1), he's got to get through fOrGG and Nada. Not likely.
I'm pretty sure oGs only has one more player left to play, they can't play both Fin and Nada. Similarly, MVP has one more player left after this.
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On December 04 2011 00:20 Assaulter wrote:Show nested quote +On December 04 2011 00:19 Seeker wrote:On December 04 2011 00:18 Caesarion wrote:
Oh, revenge match? Noblesse knocked MC out of Code S with a 2 rax all-in. lol.... what's with all these revenge matches? MC, u angry?
I think it's safe to say Greg was angry
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On December 04 2011 00:19 jackphelps wrote:
Can oGs use Liquid players?
Doubt it. TL couldn't use oGs players when they were against QIM
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On December 04 2011 00:19 Seeker wrote:Show nested quote +On December 04 2011 00:18 Caesarion wrote:
Oh, revenge match? Noblesse knocked MC out of Code S with a 2 rax all-in. lol.... what's with all these revenge matches?
And what's with those allins especially xD
Iirc, it was close air metalo, Noblesse just made a gasless 4 or 5 naked rax and MC died to it ?
Perhaps I'm mistaken.
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On December 04 2011 00:19 jackphelps wrote:
Can oGs use Liquid players?
Why would they?
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Maybe I'm weird but I kind of like this laidback casting. I don't understand it at all, but the caster says a bit but doesn't overhype it and lets the game speak for itself.
Or maybe he's just lazy
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Oh MC, build that Robotics, you just scouted a bunker full of marines, you know banshees are coming -.-
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lol, MC faking a 1 gate expand!
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On December 04 2011 00:21 MrCon wrote:Show nested quote +On December 04 2011 00:19 Seeker wrote:On December 04 2011 00:18 Caesarion wrote:
Oh, revenge match? Noblesse knocked MC out of Code S with a 2 rax all-in. lol.... what's with all these revenge matches? And what's with those allins especially xD Iirc, it was close air metalo, Noblesse just made a gasless 4 or 5 naked rax and MC died to it ? Perhaps I'm mistaken.
Yeah, it was close air metal. But I remember it being 2 rax/stim/medivac with scv pull.
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2 gate 2 gas expand
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On December 04 2011 00:21 MrCon wrote:Show nested quote +On December 04 2011 00:19 Seeker wrote:On December 04 2011 00:18 Caesarion wrote:
Oh, revenge match? Noblesse knocked MC out of Code S with a 2 rax all-in. lol.... what's with all these revenge matches? And what's with those allins especially xD Iirc, it was close air metalo, Noblesse just made a gasless 4 or 5 naked rax and MC died to it ? Perhaps I'm mistaken.
Didn't he have medivacs and stim?
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1-1-1 eh? Let's see if MC is as good as HerO
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lucky banshee, avoid the stalkers xP
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Wow, just realised how well Protoss is doing this battle. The only XvP Protoss hasn't won was a ZvP between Inca and DRG
Disclaimer: I'm not talking about balance at all, just find it funny.
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Oh the balance whine this will produce
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Ewww.... the Korean caster keeps making this slurping noise every now and then......
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MC barely misses the banshee as it heads out east on the map. still, he seems prepared
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On December 04 2011 00:22 clusen wrote:Show nested quote +On December 04 2011 00:21 MrCon wrote:On December 04 2011 00:19 Seeker wrote:On December 04 2011 00:18 Caesarion wrote:
Oh, revenge match? Noblesse knocked MC out of Code S with a 2 rax all-in. lol.... what's with all these revenge matches? And what's with those allins especially xD Iirc, it was close air metalo, Noblesse just made a gasless 4 or 5 naked rax and MC died to it ? Perhaps I'm mistaken. Didn't he have medivacs and stim?
Yeah, it was a 3rax with medivacs into the back of MC's base. Swift GG soon followed.
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On December 04 2011 00:23 Drazerk wrote:
Oh the balance whine this will produce
Lol, we're not watching DH man, it won't be that bad
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On December 04 2011 00:21 Seeker wrote:Doubt it. TL couldn't use oGs players when they were against QIM
The only team where I've actually seen a regular announcement of the partnered players being allowed is coL.MVP, likely because it's essentially a full in-depth partnership, not just allowing another team's players to train with them or having a small patch on their jackets. It's a sharing of sponsors, open house and full split team attire.
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Ouch, a supply block there by Noblesse.
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banshee taken out. That's quite a big deal.
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Ow and he lost a banshee. Shoudl have left with the max hp one not the half dead one.
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Moving out without siege tech?
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That 1-1-1, remind me of Ryung failing here.
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BIT BY BIT!
Still not an all in though
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Hahahaha nice forcefield to delay.
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On December 04 2011 00:25 Drazerk wrote:
BIT BY BIT!
Still not an all in though
It's not all-in until T floats his supply depots.
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On December 04 2011 00:24 Mordiford wrote:Show nested quote +On December 04 2011 00:21 Seeker wrote:On December 04 2011 00:19 jackphelps wrote:
Can oGs use Liquid players? Doubt it. TL couldn't use oGs players when they were against QIM The only team where I've actually seen a regular announcement of the partnered players being allowed is coL.MVP, likely because it's essentially a full in-depth partnership, not just allowing another team's players to train with them or having a small patch on their jackets. It's a sharing of sponsors, open house and full split team attire.
In GSTL oGs used HuK as an Ace in one of their battles. HuK won, but apart from that I can't remember what happened.
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On December 04 2011 00:25 Drazerk wrote:
Moving out without siege tech?
it's supposed to finish when you get to protoss base. standard
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WTF! THOSE FF DIDN'T HELP U AT ALL MC WHAT U DOING?
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lol mc with too many immortals?
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Noblesse finally takes down the Kratoss
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Terrible engagements for mc there :/
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Nice pressure ( that wasnt all in )
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On December 04 2011 00:25 Drazerk wrote:
BIT BY BIT!
Still not an all in though
how is this allin... If he fails he just build 10CCs and hopes MC waits until max and gets sleepy
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5 immortals might have been a little bit too much :s There was more marines and banshees than tanks :/
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Someone needs to make Noblesse a hate club
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On December 04 2011 00:27 Mithridates wrote:
Someone needs to make Noblesse a hate club
and MC, for doing 2 base plays.
those ff's made zealots useless, should have left some marines on the low ground
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Yuck. That was pretty sloppy by both players.
Well, at least it shows that Forcefields preventing your own Zealots from kill shit don't help too much ;P
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Mc failing to target fire tanks with immortals cost him the game I think
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Poll: Recomend game 9 oGs.MC vs MVP_Noblesse?No (16) 84% Yes (3) 16% If you have time (0) 0% 19 total votes Your vote: Recomend game 9 oGs.MC vs MVP_Noblesse? (Vote): Yes
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MC needed more zealots and those forcefields didn't really matter since his zealots all died instantly. Well, didn't expect him to lose there, he has handled more scary 1/1/1s than this.
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On December 04 2011 00:28 nokz88 wrote:
Mc failing to target fire tanks with immortals cost him the game I think
Nope, bad FF and failing to target fire banshees with stalkers did
Saving setries would have been nice too
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MC still weak against 1-1-1 :/
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On December 04 2011 00:26 Seeker wrote:
WTF! THOSE FF DIDN'T HELP U AT ALL MC WHAT U DOING?
With the ramp visipn change you cant FF on the top of the ramp without vision. Which you need by being halfway up the ramp
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On December 04 2011 00:27 Mithridates wrote:
Someone needs to make Noblesse a hate club
You should get on top of making an MC hate club first because sorry to tell you, but he lost that.
Stop dissing players and enjoy the games, Supernova has some crazy tvt, hopefully this will be a great game
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On December 04 2011 00:27 Mithridates wrote:
Someone needs to make Noblesse a hate club
MC all-ins: OMGWORWEORDKAFN WHAT A MICRO ADSFOWEIRQOWE NERD CHILLS ASDFLJQWELJR BLAHBLAHBLAH
Noblesse all-ins: he needs a hate club.
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Stay classy fanboys.
MC hate club would have 10000 members if they could get founded when he first all-in'd and add a member every single time he all-ins.
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Oh fin(forGG) will not play?
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On December 04 2011 00:26 SeaSwift wrote:Show nested quote +On December 04 2011 00:24 Mordiford wrote:On December 04 2011 00:21 Seeker wrote:On December 04 2011 00:19 jackphelps wrote:
Can oGs use Liquid players? Doubt it. TL couldn't use oGs players when they were against QIM The only team where I've actually seen a regular announcement of the partnered players being allowed is coL.MVP, likely because it's essentially a full in-depth partnership, not just allowing another team's players to train with them or having a small patch on their jackets. It's a sharing of sponsors, open house and full split team attire. In GSTL oGs used HuK as an Ace in one of their battles. HuK won, but apart from that I can't remember what happened.
Yeah, oGs and TL comes close because of the communication between teams and how long they've been sharing practice space. Also, the GSL has expressed it's interest in seeing more foreign players so there's no surprise that they allowed that.
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man, that map looked pretty good for a 1/1/1
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Impossible to break once terran gets position up there, specially with mass scv on hold position so zealots cant even attack anything anyways.
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On December 04 2011 00:29 Mithridates wrote:Show nested quote +On December 04 2011 00:26 Seeker wrote:
WTF! THOSE FF DIDN'T HELP U AT ALL MC WHAT U DOING? With the ramp visipn change you cant FF on the top of the ramp without vision. Which you need by being halfway up the ramp
Didn't he have obs flying there?
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Red: SuperNoVa
Blue: Noblesse
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On December 04 2011 00:22 clusen wrote:Show nested quote +On December 04 2011 00:21 MrCon wrote:On December 04 2011 00:19 Seeker wrote:On December 04 2011 00:18 Caesarion wrote:
Oh, revenge match? Noblesse knocked MC out of Code S with a 2 rax all-in. lol.... what's with all these revenge matches? And what's with those allins especially xD Iirc, it was close air metalo, Noblesse just made a gasless 4 or 5 naked rax and MC died to it ? Perhaps I'm mistaken. Didn't he have medivacs and stim?
After yeah. But his first marine poke (like the 10-15 marine poke you see sometimes in TvP) made a lot of damage and it was over after that basically. But my memory isn't clear, I definitely didn't remembered he pulled scvs, and I don't remember if he went one rax expand to 4-5 raxes poke or if he fake the expand, made the poke before expanding.
I remember it not being allin tho, but I'm not 100% sure.
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On December 04 2011 00:29 ChrisXIV wrote:
MC still weak against 1-1-1 :/
Protoss still weak against 1-1-1 FTFY
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On December 04 2011 00:29 Mordiford wrote:Show nested quote +On December 04 2011 00:26 SeaSwift wrote:On December 04 2011 00:24 Mordiford wrote:On December 04 2011 00:21 Seeker wrote:On December 04 2011 00:19 jackphelps wrote:
Can oGs use Liquid players? Doubt it. TL couldn't use oGs players when they were against QIM The only team where I've actually seen a regular announcement of the partnered players being allowed is coL.MVP, likely because it's essentially a full in-depth partnership, not just allowing another team's players to train with them or having a small patch on their jackets. It's a sharing of sponsors, open house and full split team attire. In GSTL oGs used HuK as an Ace in one of their battles. HuK won, but apart from that I can't remember what happened. Yeah, oGs and TL comes close because of the communication between teams and how long they've been sharing practice space. Also, the GSL has expressed it's interest in seeing more foreign players so there's no surprise that they allowed that.
HuK played for oGs as mercenary, which was allowed by GSTL rules.
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On December 04 2011 00:29 Djagulingu wrote:Show nested quote +On December 04 2011 00:27 Mithridates wrote:
Someone needs to make Noblesse a hate club MC all-ins: OMGWORWEORDKAFN WHAT A MICRO ADSFOWEIRQOWE NERD CHILLS ASDFLJQWELJR BLAHBLAHBLAH Noblesse all-ins: he needs a hate club. ... Stay classy fanboys. MC hate club would have 10000 members if they could get founded when he first all-in'd and add a member every single time he all-ins.
Hahah well thats a stretch. I would be a fan of MC no matter what kind of player he was simply because his personality is awesome
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I think immortal are not that good counter to 1-1-1, it can counter tanks hard, however with the cost of them, they can mass zealot stalker 1 base colossus or 15 nexus seem to be the only counter
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AWww
I do like SuperNova though. He's a star in my eyes.
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What lost that game:
- stalkers moved in FIRST, allowing the tanks to focus them down
- Forcefields were worse for MC than for Noblesse
- Stalkers didn't focus down the banshees
- sentries got focussed by the Tanks too
- too many immortals just hitting marines/SCVs
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On December 04 2011 00:30 Djagulingu wrote:Show nested quote +On December 04 2011 00:29 Mordiford wrote:On December 04 2011 00:26 SeaSwift wrote:On December 04 2011 00:24 Mordiford wrote:On December 04 2011 00:21 Seeker wrote:On December 04 2011 00:19 jackphelps wrote:
Can oGs use Liquid players? Doubt it. TL couldn't use oGs players when they were against QIM The only team where I've actually seen a regular announcement of the partnered players being allowed is coL.MVP, likely because it's essentially a full in-depth partnership, not just allowing another team's players to train with them or having a small patch on their jackets. It's a sharing of sponsors, open house and full split team attire. In GSTL oGs used HuK as an Ace in one of their battles. HuK won, but apart from that I can't remember what happened. Yeah, oGs and TL comes close because of the communication between teams and how long they've been sharing practice space. Also, the GSL has expressed it's interest in seeing more foreign players so there's no surprise that they allowed that. HuK played for oGs as mercenary, which was allowed by GSTL rules.
That makes more sense, forgot about the mercenary thing for a second.
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On December 04 2011 00:30 rpgalon wrote:
man, that map looked pretty good for a 1/1/1
i haven't seen anything else but 1/1/1 in TvP on that map, oh yeah, also 2rax vs 3gate stargate
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On December 04 2011 00:31 Mithridates wrote:Show nested quote +On December 04 2011 00:29 Djagulingu wrote:On December 04 2011 00:27 Mithridates wrote:
Someone needs to make Noblesse a hate club MC all-ins: OMGWORWEORDKAFN WHAT A MICRO ADSFOWEIRQOWE NERD CHILLS ASDFLJQWELJR BLAHBLAHBLAH Noblesse all-ins: he needs a hate club. ... Stay classy fanboys. MC hate club would have 10000 members if they could get founded when he first all-in'd and add a member every single time he all-ins. Hahah well thats a stretch. I would be a fan of MC no matter what kind of player he was simply because his personality is awesome
yea and his forcefields are always nice to watch
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On December 04 2011 00:30 covetousrat wrote:
Damn was hoping forgg
Don't count on fOrGG. Most likely they're not gonna use him as he is preparing for his Code A matches
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On December 04 2011 00:31 Mithridates wrote:Show nested quote +On December 04 2011 00:29 Djagulingu wrote:On December 04 2011 00:27 Mithridates wrote:
Someone needs to make Noblesse a hate club MC all-ins: OMGWORWEORDKAFN WHAT A MICRO ADSFOWEIRQOWE NERD CHILLS ASDFLJQWELJR BLAHBLAHBLAH Noblesse all-ins: he needs a hate club. ... Stay classy fanboys. MC hate club would have 10000 members if they could get founded when he first all-in'd and add a member every single time he all-ins. Hahah well thats a stretch. I would be a fan of MC no matter what kind of player he was simply because his personality is awesome
And you can found a hate club for noblesse because he pulled off a 1-1-1 on MC on Crossfire?
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what's wrong with all the noblesse hate?
he played a pretty damn good game that could and should be recommended to any terran who wants to learn his race.
not even joking, yes it was allin, deal with it, its a part of the game.
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Crossfire is such a terrible Map . Is there even a MU in that Map that isn't terrible ? The only MU that doesn't result in 1-2 Base pushes is TvT because you can't break somebody sieged up in the middle . You'll just get to a boring stalemate and trying to deny the 4th's.
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On December 04 2011 00:29 Djagulingu wrote:Show nested quote +On December 04 2011 00:27 Mithridates wrote:
Someone needs to make Noblesse a hate club MC all-ins: OMGWORWEORDKAFN WHAT A MICRO ADSFOWEIRQOWE NERD CHILLS ASDFLJQWELJR BLAHBLAHBLAH Noblesse all-ins: he needs a hate club. ... Stay classy fanboys. MC hate club would have 10000 members if they could get founded when he first all-in'd and add a member every single time he all-ins. At least MC actually micros, nobless just 1-A'ed with his armies and made bunkers.
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On December 04 2011 00:32 jkang wrote:Show nested quote +On December 04 2011 00:29 Djagulingu wrote:On December 04 2011 00:27 Mithridates wrote:
Someone needs to make Noblesse a hate club MC all-ins: OMGWORWEORDKAFN WHAT A MICRO ADSFOWEIRQOWE NERD CHILLS ASDFLJQWELJR BLAHBLAHBLAH Noblesse all-ins: he needs a hate club. ... Stay classy fanboys. MC hate club would have 10000 members if they could get founded when he first all-in'd and add a member every single time he all-ins. At least MC actually micros, nobless just 1-A'ed with his armies and made bunkers.
Yup, 1-Aed with all those stationary Seige tanks.
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On December 04 2011 00:31 bqm wrote:I think immortal are not that good counter to 1-1-1, it can counter tanks hard, however with the cost of them, they can mass zealot stalker 1 base colossus or 15 nexus seem to be the only counter
Well 2 gate 1 stargate is the standard korean anti 1-1-1 build, I'm surprise MC didn't went that.
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On December 04 2011 00:29 Djagulingu wrote:Show nested quote +On December 04 2011 00:27 Mithridates wrote:
Someone needs to make Noblesse a hate club MC all-ins: OMGWORWEORDKAFN WHAT A MICRO ADSFOWEIRQOWE NERD CHILLS ASDFLJQWELJR BLAHBLAHBLAH Noblesse all-ins: he needs a hate club. ... Stay classy fanboys. MC hate club would have 10000 members if they could get founded when he first all-in'd and add a member every single time he all-ins.
You realize MC is probably the player that has been allined most times in the whole GSL?
He suffers it as much as he does it.
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On December 04 2011 00:31 Seeker wrote:Don't count on fOrGG. Most likely they're not gonna use him as he is preparing for his Code A matches
Yeah. Is it just me that forGG is very much at MVP's level?
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On December 04 2011 00:31 SeaSwift wrote:
What lost that game:
- stalkers moved in FIRST, allowing the tanks to focus them down
- Forcefields were worse for MC than for Noblesse
- Stalkers didn't focus down the banshees
- sentries got focussed by the Tanks too
- too many immortals just hitting marines/SCVs
it is pretty easy to do when you get marines, scvs, banshees and sieged tanks on yoh face
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On December 04 2011 00:32 jkang wrote:Show nested quote +On December 04 2011 00:29 Djagulingu wrote:On December 04 2011 00:27 Mithridates wrote:
Someone needs to make Noblesse a hate club MC all-ins: OMGWORWEORDKAFN WHAT A MICRO ADSFOWEIRQOWE NERD CHILLS ASDFLJQWELJR BLAHBLAHBLAH Noblesse all-ins: he needs a hate club. ... Stay classy fanboys. MC hate club would have 10000 members if they could get founded when he first all-in'd and add a member every single time he all-ins. At least MC actually micros, nobless just 1-A'ed with his armies and made bunkers.
Looks like there was no need to
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On December 04 2011 00:33 elwoodng wrote:Show nested quote +On December 04 2011 00:31 bqm wrote:I think immortal are not that good counter to 1-1-1, it can counter tanks hard, however with the cost of them, they can mass zealot stalker 1 base colossus or 15 nexus seem to be the only counter Well 2 gate 1 stargate is the standard korean anti 1-1-1 build, I'm surprise MC didn't went that.
I think MC is steering away from going fast Stargate after MVP's anti-Stargate Marine/Tank push on Dual sight, which just looked like a BO loss to me.
Phoenix beat 1-1-1, but lose to pure Marine/Tank.
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On December 04 2011 00:31 Djagulingu wrote:Show nested quote +On December 04 2011 00:31 Mithridates wrote:On December 04 2011 00:29 Djagulingu wrote:On December 04 2011 00:27 Mithridates wrote:
Someone needs to make Noblesse a hate club MC all-ins: OMGWORWEORDKAFN WHAT A MICRO ADSFOWEIRQOWE NERD CHILLS ASDFLJQWELJR BLAHBLAHBLAH Noblesse all-ins: he needs a hate club. ... Stay classy fanboys. MC hate club would have 10000 members if they could get founded when he first all-in'd and add a member every single time he all-ins. Hahah well thats a stretch. I would be a fan of MC no matter what kind of player he was simply because his personality is awesome And you can found a hate club for noblesse because he pulled off a 1-1-1 on MC on Crossfire?
Also every protoss allins Z after a FFE. I cant remember the last time I saw Korean P take a 3rd after FFE. Clearly Korean P feel that they must all in vs a fast 3rd no matter what. You dont have to cheese as terran but noblesse has done it every game Ive seen him play in
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On December 04 2011 00:33 covetousrat wrote:Show nested quote +On December 04 2011 00:31 Seeker wrote:On December 04 2011 00:30 covetousrat wrote:
Damn was hoping forgg Don't count on fOrGG. Most likely they're not gonna use him as he is preparing for his Code A matches Yeah. Is it just me that forGG is very much at MVP's level?
Can't say that. He's still in Code A. Let him get to Code S and let him have more televised games before we say he's MVP's level.
MVP:
3x GSL champion
MLG champion
Blizzcon champion
fOrGG:
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On December 04 2011 00:33 mordk wrote:Show nested quote +On December 04 2011 00:29 Djagulingu wrote:On December 04 2011 00:27 Mithridates wrote:
Someone needs to make Noblesse a hate club MC all-ins: OMGWORWEORDKAFN WHAT A MICRO ADSFOWEIRQOWE NERD CHILLS ASDFLJQWELJR BLAHBLAHBLAH Noblesse all-ins: he needs a hate club. ... Stay classy fanboys. MC hate club would have 10000 members if they could get founded when he first all-in'd and add a member every single time he all-ins. You realize MC is probably the player that has been allined most times in the whole GSL? He suffers it as much as he does it.
Because he's freaking predictable he has his style and it's damn strong but he rarely does anything out of the ordinary , in like EVER.
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On December 04 2011 00:34 Mithridates wrote:Show nested quote +On December 04 2011 00:31 Djagulingu wrote:On December 04 2011 00:31 Mithridates wrote:On December 04 2011 00:29 Djagulingu wrote:On December 04 2011 00:27 Mithridates wrote:
Someone needs to make Noblesse a hate club MC all-ins: OMGWORWEORDKAFN WHAT A MICRO ADSFOWEIRQOWE NERD CHILLS ASDFLJQWELJR BLAHBLAHBLAH Noblesse all-ins: he needs a hate club. ... Stay classy fanboys. MC hate club would have 10000 members if they could get founded when he first all-in'd and add a member every single time he all-ins. Hahah well thats a stretch. I would be a fan of MC no matter what kind of player he was simply because his personality is awesome And you can found a hate club for noblesse because he pulled off a 1-1-1 on MC on Crossfire? Also every protoss allins Z after a FFE. I cant remember the last time I saw Korean P take a 3rd after FFE. Clearly Korean P feel that they must all in vs a fast 3rd no matter what. You dont have to cheese as terran but noblesse has done it every game Ive seen him play in
LiquidHero?
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On December 04 2011 00:35 s3rp wrote:Show nested quote +On December 04 2011 00:33 mordk wrote:On December 04 2011 00:29 Djagulingu wrote:On December 04 2011 00:27 Mithridates wrote:
Someone needs to make Noblesse a hate club MC all-ins: OMGWORWEORDKAFN WHAT A MICRO ADSFOWEIRQOWE NERD CHILLS ASDFLJQWELJR BLAHBLAHBLAH Noblesse all-ins: he needs a hate club. ... Stay classy fanboys. MC hate club would have 10000 members if they could get founded when he first all-in'd and add a member every single time he all-ins. You realize MC is probably the player that has been allined most times in the whole GSL? He suffers it as much as he does it. Because he's freaking predictable he has his style and it's damn strong but he rarely does anything out of the ordinary , in like EVER.
Yup, I mean imagine if MC did things like going for Warp Prisms with HTs in them in PvT. Or, hell, went for weird Warp Prism PvZ strategies to block off ramps.
If MC does something standard --> MC is freaking predictable
If MC does something different --> Protoss is OP.
That's the impression I got after the Idra games, anyway.
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On December 04 2011 00:35 covetousrat wrote:Show nested quote +On December 04 2011 00:34 Mithridates wrote:On December 04 2011 00:31 Djagulingu wrote:On December 04 2011 00:31 Mithridates wrote:On December 04 2011 00:29 Djagulingu wrote:On December 04 2011 00:27 Mithridates wrote:
Someone needs to make Noblesse a hate club MC all-ins: OMGWORWEORDKAFN WHAT A MICRO ADSFOWEIRQOWE NERD CHILLS ASDFLJQWELJR BLAHBLAHBLAH Noblesse all-ins: he needs a hate club. ... Stay classy fanboys. MC hate club would have 10000 members if they could get founded when he first all-in'd and add a member every single time he all-ins. Hahah well thats a stretch. I would be a fan of MC no matter what kind of player he was simply because his personality is awesome And you can found a hate club for noblesse because he pulled off a 1-1-1 on MC on Crossfire? Also every protoss allins Z after a FFE. I cant remember the last time I saw Korean P take a 3rd after FFE. Clearly Korean P feel that they must all in vs a fast 3rd no matter what. You dont have to cheese as terran but noblesse has done it every game Ive seen him play in LiquidHero?
Link please? He allins as well or goes DTs. Hero only takes a third after he kills Zs third which doesnt count
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On December 04 2011 00:32 jkang wrote:Show nested quote +On December 04 2011 00:29 Djagulingu wrote:On December 04 2011 00:27 Mithridates wrote:
Someone needs to make Noblesse a hate club MC all-ins: OMGWORWEORDKAFN WHAT A MICRO ADSFOWEIRQOWE NERD CHILLS ASDFLJQWELJR BLAHBLAHBLAH Noblesse all-ins: he needs a hate club. ... Stay classy fanboys. MC hate club would have 10000 members if they could get founded when he first all-in'd and add a member every single time he all-ins. At least MC actually micros, nobless just 1-A'ed with his armies and made bunkers.
You're right, MC micro'd his stalkers to die to banshees, FF his own units from attacking and didn't focus fire those tanks with the immortals, but at least he micro'd right. Just take the game for what it is, these are some of the best players in the world fighting for a BO11
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TvT:
"You must construct additional Vikings"
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How did those 3 Vikings kill so many of Cute's Vikings?
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On December 04 2011 00:37 Mithridates wrote:Show nested quote +On December 04 2011 00:35 covetousrat wrote:On December 04 2011 00:34 Mithridates wrote:On December 04 2011 00:31 Djagulingu wrote:On December 04 2011 00:31 Mithridates wrote:On December 04 2011 00:29 Djagulingu wrote:On December 04 2011 00:27 Mithridates wrote:
Someone needs to make Noblesse a hate club MC all-ins: OMGWORWEORDKAFN WHAT A MICRO ADSFOWEIRQOWE NERD CHILLS ASDFLJQWELJR BLAHBLAHBLAH Noblesse all-ins: he needs a hate club. ... Stay classy fanboys. MC hate club would have 10000 members if they could get founded when he first all-in'd and add a member every single time he all-ins. Hahah well thats a stretch. I would be a fan of MC no matter what kind of player he was simply because his personality is awesome And you can found a hate club for noblesse because he pulled off a 1-1-1 on MC on Crossfire? Also every protoss allins Z after a FFE. I cant remember the last time I saw Korean P take a 3rd after FFE. Clearly Korean P feel that they must all in vs a fast 3rd no matter what. You dont have to cheese as terran but noblesse has done it every game Ive seen him play in LiquidHero? Link please? He allins as well or goes DTs. Hero only takes a third after he kills Zs third which doesnt count
http://www.teamliquidpro.com/news/2011/11/30/this-week-in-replays-14-hero
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seeing viking hellion fighting just hellions brings back the memories of the good ol' times, when every TvT was mech
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SuperNova TvT is pretty good ) he make it quite far in WCG Korea
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On December 04 2011 00:38 SeaSwift wrote:
How did those 3 Vikings kill so many of Cute's Vikings?
cute's vikings were all hurt and the auto turrets were shooting them too
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On December 04 2011 00:37 Mithridates wrote:Show nested quote +On December 04 2011 00:35 covetousrat wrote:On December 04 2011 00:34 Mithridates wrote:On December 04 2011 00:31 Djagulingu wrote:On December 04 2011 00:31 Mithridates wrote:On December 04 2011 00:29 Djagulingu wrote:On December 04 2011 00:27 Mithridates wrote:
Someone needs to make Noblesse a hate club MC all-ins: OMGWORWEORDKAFN WHAT A MICRO ADSFOWEIRQOWE NERD CHILLS ASDFLJQWELJR BLAHBLAHBLAH Noblesse all-ins: he needs a hate club. ... Stay classy fanboys. MC hate club would have 10000 members if they could get founded when he first all-in'd and add a member every single time he all-ins. Hahah well thats a stretch. I would be a fan of MC no matter what kind of player he was simply because his personality is awesome And you can found a hate club for noblesse because he pulled off a 1-1-1 on MC on Crossfire? Also every protoss allins Z after a FFE. I cant remember the last time I saw Korean P take a 3rd after FFE. Clearly Korean P feel that they must all in vs a fast 3rd no matter what. You dont have to cheese as terran but noblesse has done it every game Ive seen him play in LiquidHero? Link please? He allins as well or goes DTs. Hero only takes a third after he kills Zs third which doesnt count
Wow. Just... wow.
You don't watch enough of HerO's games ^_^
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Well, that was pretty one sided.
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For a minute I thought those Vikings were going to shoot down the Mules as they were landing.
I watch too much Starcraft.
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On December 04 2011 00:31 iNfeRnaL wrote:
what's wrong with all the noblesse hate?
he played a pretty damn good game that could and should be recommended to any terran who wants to learn his race.
not even joking, yes it was allin, deal with it, its a part of the game.
lol can't tell if serious... i'll bite. What was useful to learn from that game which hasn't already been mapped out in every other 111 victory to date? Don't lose 1 banshee to 2 stalkers?
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On December 04 2011 00:38 covetousrat wrote:Show nested quote +On December 04 2011 00:37 Mithridates wrote:On December 04 2011 00:35 covetousrat wrote:On December 04 2011 00:34 Mithridates wrote:On December 04 2011 00:31 Djagulingu wrote:On December 04 2011 00:31 Mithridates wrote:On December 04 2011 00:29 Djagulingu wrote:On December 04 2011 00:27 Mithridates wrote:
Someone needs to make Noblesse a hate club MC all-ins: OMGWORWEORDKAFN WHAT A MICRO ADSFOWEIRQOWE NERD CHILLS ASDFLJQWELJR BLAHBLAHBLAH Noblesse all-ins: he needs a hate club. ... Stay classy fanboys. MC hate club would have 10000 members if they could get founded when he first all-in'd and add a member every single time he all-ins. Hahah well thats a stretch. I would be a fan of MC no matter what kind of player he was simply because his personality is awesome And you can found a hate club for noblesse because he pulled off a 1-1-1 on MC on Crossfire? Also every protoss allins Z after a FFE. I cant remember the last time I saw Korean P take a 3rd after FFE. Clearly Korean P feel that they must all in vs a fast 3rd no matter what. You dont have to cheese as terran but noblesse has done it every game Ive seen him play in LiquidHero? Link please? He allins as well or goes DTs. Hero only takes a third after he kills Zs third which doesnt count http://www.teamliquidpro.com/news/2011/11/30/this-week-in-replays-14-hero
If hes not playing a decent zerg dont waste my time. At least Code A. Im sure Hero takes thirds in NA ladder games
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LOL HE DROPS 5 MULES DAMN
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On December 04 2011 00:40 Amornthep wrote:
Well, that was pretty one sided.
Yeah, it was a huge mistake to land those vikings for Noblesse, he needed just keep a light contain or gtfo when he saw the hellions, both were on equal production with equal scv counts
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The mannnnnnnnnnnnnnnner mules of victory.
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Supernova just crushed Noblesse, like it's the easiest thing in the world lol.
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Keen, has Keen played?
omg i can't think
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On December 04 2011 00:41 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Who does MVP have left?
Keen?
Genius too I guess
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Ace match (which isn't really an ace match, but hey, all 11 games is pretty nice)
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Ace Match:
oGsSuperNoVa
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MVP_GuineaPig
WTF KIND OF ACE MATCH IS THAT?
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its MVPGuineaPIg.
Calm Before the Storm? oh snap, SuperNova going to have to work for this one
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On December 04 2011 00:36 SeaSwift wrote:Show nested quote +On December 04 2011 00:35 s3rp wrote:On December 04 2011 00:33 mordk wrote:On December 04 2011 00:29 Djagulingu wrote:On December 04 2011 00:27 Mithridates wrote:
Someone needs to make Noblesse a hate club MC all-ins: OMGWORWEORDKAFN WHAT A MICRO ADSFOWEIRQOWE NERD CHILLS ASDFLJQWELJR BLAHBLAHBLAH Noblesse all-ins: he needs a hate club. ... Stay classy fanboys. MC hate club would have 10000 members if they could get founded when he first all-in'd and add a member every single time he all-ins. You realize MC is probably the player that has been allined most times in the whole GSL? He suffers it as much as he does it. Because he's freaking predictable he has his style and it's damn strong but he rarely does anything out of the ordinary , in like EVER. Yup, I mean imagine if MC did things like going for Warp Prisms with HTs in them in PvT. Or, hell, went for weird Warp Prism PvZ strategies to block off ramps. If MC does something standard --> MC is freaking predictable If MC does something different --> Protoss is OP. That's the impression I got after the Idra games, anyway.
Just a short logical excursion.
If X=wrong the statement X-->Y = True.
So as MC never does something different, it is implied that Protoss is ALWAYS OP.
I guess the Protoss winrates show that this is wrong. (protoss isn't OP)
So your statement must be the thing that is wrong!
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KATE LOCKWELL FIGHTING~!
Surely that's Keen >_>
oh Forgot about Guineapig. He's pretty good!
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On December 04 2011 00:40 Mithridates wrote:Show nested quote +On December 04 2011 00:38 covetousrat wrote:On December 04 2011 00:37 Mithridates wrote:On December 04 2011 00:35 covetousrat wrote:On December 04 2011 00:34 Mithridates wrote:On December 04 2011 00:31 Djagulingu wrote:On December 04 2011 00:31 Mithridates wrote:On December 04 2011 00:29 Djagulingu wrote:On December 04 2011 00:27 Mithridates wrote:
Someone needs to make Noblesse a hate club MC all-ins: OMGWORWEORDKAFN WHAT A MICRO ADSFOWEIRQOWE NERD CHILLS ASDFLJQWELJR BLAHBLAHBLAH Noblesse all-ins: he needs a hate club. ... Stay classy fanboys. MC hate club would have 10000 members if they could get founded when he first all-in'd and add a member every single time he all-ins. Hahah well thats a stretch. I would be a fan of MC no matter what kind of player he was simply because his personality is awesome And you can found a hate club for noblesse because he pulled off a 1-1-1 on MC on Crossfire? Also every protoss allins Z after a FFE. I cant remember the last time I saw Korean P take a 3rd after FFE. Clearly Korean P feel that they must all in vs a fast 3rd no matter what. You dont have to cheese as terran but noblesse has done it every game Ive seen him play in LiquidHero? Link please? He allins as well or goes DTs. Hero only takes a third after he kills Zs third which doesnt count http://www.teamliquidpro.com/news/2011/11/30/this-week-in-replays-14-hero If hes not playing a decent zerg dont waste my time. At least Code A. Im sure Hero takes thirds in NA ladder games
Lol are you trolling me? Go watch his Dreamhack win.
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On December 04 2011 00:43 Seeker wrote:
Ace Match:
oGsSuperNoVa
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MVP_GuineaPig
WTF KIND OF ACE MATCH IS THAT?
I guess they think Supernova is weakest vP
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On December 04 2011 00:42 MrCon wrote:
Ace match (which isn't really an ace match, but hey, all 11 games is pretty nice)
I don't really get it? it's 5:5 so its the ace match right?
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They have sC left as well ... don't know if they're gonna send him though.
EDIT: Nevermind GuineaPig. Good choice ^.^
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On December 04 2011 00:43 Drazerk wrote:
is GuineaPig still random?
No. He's protoss now
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HAHAHA PINEAGIP, HE'LL PWN SUPERNOVA in half.
Guineapig looked so strong in the kor weekly he won (which was the latest korweekly iirc) :o
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On December 04 2011 00:43 Shellshock1122 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 04 2011 00:43 Seeker wrote:
Ace Match:
oGsSuperNoVa
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WTF KIND OF ACE MATCH IS THAT? I guess they think Supernova is weakest vP
He is, but only because his TvZ and TvT are so gosu
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ACE GAME! Good luck to both players, this map is kinda protoss favored though.
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On December 04 2011 00:43 Shellshock1122 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 04 2011 00:43 Seeker wrote:
Ace Match:
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WTF KIND OF ACE MATCH IS THAT? I guess they think Supernova is weakest vP
Big mistake.
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On December 04 2011 00:44 spaZzNx-` wrote:
They have sC left as well ... don't know if they're gonna send him though.
Keen and sC would lose TvT to Supernova.
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On December 04 2011 00:40 Goibon wrote:Show nested quote +On December 04 2011 00:31 iNfeRnaL wrote:
what's wrong with all the noblesse hate?
he played a pretty damn good game that could and should be recommended to any terran who wants to learn his race.
not even joking, yes it was allin, deal with it, its a part of the game. lol can't tell if serious... i'll bite. What was useful to learn from that game which hasn't already been mapped out in every other 111 victory to date? Don't lose 1 banshee to 2 stalkers?
Just because something has been done before that means his micro was bad?
In fact if anyones it was MC's micro being bad while countless people cried "BUT MC MICROED" when he actually horribly mismicroed.
Btw, I'm Protoss myself, I hate 1-1-1 too - but it's not the fucking players fault do use a buildorder which has about 85% winrate on specific maps, so why do people blame him for using this buildorder AND even executing it nearly perfect?
Again, does it make his micro worse and MC's better just because "it's been done before"?
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Omfg....
TvP on Calm Before the Storm
a) long ass macro game
b) some retarded anti-climatic rush
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On December 04 2011 00:44 Elvedeta wrote:Show nested quote +On December 04 2011 00:42 MrCon wrote:
Ace match (which isn't really an ace match, but hey, all 11 games is pretty nice) I don't really get it? it's 5:5 so its the ace match right?
That's the wrong use of the term Ace match, is the point. This is just the final match.
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On December 04 2011 00:43 Shellshock1122 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 04 2011 00:43 Seeker wrote:
Ace Match:
oGsSuperNoVa
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MVP_GuineaPig
WTF KIND OF ACE MATCH IS THAT? I guess they think Supernova is weakest vP
I'm pretty sure guineapig is random in team leagues though at least he was in the GSTL
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On December 04 2011 00:43 covetousrat wrote:Show nested quote +On December 04 2011 00:40 Mithridates wrote:On December 04 2011 00:38 covetousrat wrote:On December 04 2011 00:37 Mithridates wrote:On December 04 2011 00:35 covetousrat wrote:On December 04 2011 00:34 Mithridates wrote:On December 04 2011 00:31 Djagulingu wrote:On December 04 2011 00:31 Mithridates wrote:On December 04 2011 00:29 Djagulingu wrote:On December 04 2011 00:27 Mithridates wrote:
Someone needs to make Noblesse a hate club MC all-ins: OMGWORWEORDKAFN WHAT A MICRO ADSFOWEIRQOWE NERD CHILLS ASDFLJQWELJR BLAHBLAHBLAH Noblesse all-ins: he needs a hate club. ... Stay classy fanboys. MC hate club would have 10000 members if they could get founded when he first all-in'd and add a member every single time he all-ins. Hahah well thats a stretch. I would be a fan of MC no matter what kind of player he was simply because his personality is awesome And you can found a hate club for noblesse because he pulled off a 1-1-1 on MC on Crossfire? Also every protoss allins Z after a FFE. I cant remember the last time I saw Korean P take a 3rd after FFE. Clearly Korean P feel that they must all in vs a fast 3rd no matter what. You dont have to cheese as terran but noblesse has done it every game Ive seen him play in LiquidHero? Link please? He allins as well or goes DTs. Hero only takes a third after he kills Zs third which doesnt count http://www.teamliquidpro.com/news/2011/11/30/this-week-in-replays-14-hero If hes not playing a decent zerg dont waste my time. At least Code A. Im sure Hero takes thirds in NA ladder games Lol are you trolling me? Go watch his Dreamhack win.
Yes he's trolling, just don't feed it's a wonder he hasn't gotten warned yet
Really surprised MVP chose guineapig with genius still up, Keen would also have been a questionable choice because of supernova's dominance in tvt
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On December 04 2011 00:44 Fusilero wrote:Show nested quote +On December 04 2011 00:43 Shellshock1122 wrote:On December 04 2011 00:43 Seeker wrote:
Ace Match:
oGsSuperNoVa
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MVP_GuineaPig
WTF KIND OF ACE MATCH IS THAT? I guess they think Supernova is weakest vP I'm pretty sure guineapig is random in team leagues though at least he was in the GSTL
I think they said he's racepicking protoss again. That's what he did in the Code A qualifiers
has protoss symbol on load screen
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On December 04 2011 00:44 Elvedeta wrote:Show nested quote +On December 04 2011 00:42 MrCon wrote:
Ace match (which isn't really an ace match, but hey, all 11 games is pretty nice) I don't really get it? it's 5:5 so its the ace match right?
Well, you need to be able to choose an ace for an ace match, so there can't be an ace match in winner format. But it's close enough to be called an ace match, without being technically one.
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On December 04 2011 00:44 Goibon wrote:Show nested quote +On December 04 2011 00:44 Elvedeta wrote:On December 04 2011 00:42 MrCon wrote:
Ace match (which isn't really an ace match, but hey, all 11 games is pretty nice) I don't really get it? it's 5:5 so its the ace match right? That's the wrong use of the term Ace match, is the point. This is just the final match.
Ah ok I see now
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On December 04 2011 00:37 Badfatpanda wrote:Show nested quote +On December 04 2011 00:32 jkang wrote:On December 04 2011 00:29 Djagulingu wrote:On December 04 2011 00:27 Mithridates wrote:
Someone needs to make Noblesse a hate club MC all-ins: OMGWORWEORDKAFN WHAT A MICRO ADSFOWEIRQOWE NERD CHILLS ASDFLJQWELJR BLAHBLAHBLAH Noblesse all-ins: he needs a hate club. ... Stay classy fanboys. MC hate club would have 10000 members if they could get founded when he first all-in'd and add a member every single time he all-ins. At least MC actually micros, nobless just 1-A'ed with his armies and made bunkers. You're right, MC micro'd his stalkers to die to banshees, FF his own units from attacking and didn't focus fire those tanks with the immortals, but at least he micro'd right. Just take the game for what it is, these are some of the best players in the world fighting for a BO11 I was talking about when MC all-in's, he actually micro's. MC indeed played that game badly.
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On December 04 2011 00:43 Big J wrote:Show nested quote +On December 04 2011 00:36 SeaSwift wrote:On December 04 2011 00:35 s3rp wrote:On December 04 2011 00:33 mordk wrote:On December 04 2011 00:29 Djagulingu wrote:On December 04 2011 00:27 Mithridates wrote:
Someone needs to make Noblesse a hate club MC all-ins: OMGWORWEORDKAFN WHAT A MICRO ADSFOWEIRQOWE NERD CHILLS ASDFLJQWELJR BLAHBLAHBLAH Noblesse all-ins: he needs a hate club. ... Stay classy fanboys. MC hate club would have 10000 members if they could get founded when he first all-in'd and add a member every single time he all-ins. You realize MC is probably the player that has been allined most times in the whole GSL? He suffers it as much as he does it. Because he's freaking predictable he has his style and it's damn strong but he rarely does anything out of the ordinary , in like EVER. Yup, I mean imagine if MC did things like going for Warp Prisms with HTs in them in PvT. Or, hell, went for weird Warp Prism PvZ strategies to block off ramps. If MC does something standard --> MC is freaking predictable If MC does something different --> Protoss is OP. That's the impression I got after the Idra games, anyway. Just a short logical excursion. If X=wrong the statement X-->Y = True. So as MC never does something different, it is implied that Protoss is ALWAYS OP. I guess the Protoss winrates show that this is wrong. (protoss isn't OP) So your statement must be the thing that is wrong!
I was implying in my first sentence that he does go for something different.
And I definitely don't think so, but it is definitely possible to argue that Protoss is OP.
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On December 04 2011 00:45 Shellshock1122 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 04 2011 00:44 Fusilero wrote:On December 04 2011 00:43 Shellshock1122 wrote:On December 04 2011 00:43 Seeker wrote:
Ace Match:
oGsSuperNoVa
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MVP_GuineaPig
WTF KIND OF ACE MATCH IS THAT? I guess they think Supernova is weakest vP I'm pretty sure guineapig is random in team leagues though at least he was in the GSTL I think they said he's racepicking protoss again. That's what he did in the Code A qualifiers has protoss symbol on load screen
Hmmm okay then kind of sad a random player was always cool to see
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Should be a gentlemen agreement in these kinds of matches, to not do mirror match-ups
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You'll see, GP will pwn. Especially on Calm haha.
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On December 04 2011 00:46 MrCon wrote:
You'll see, GP will pwn. Especially on Calm haha.
SuperNova accounts for 50% of all terran wins on calm @ 2-0 =p
(the others being noblesse metagaming inca with a naked 2 rax and jjakji's awesome game vs puzzle)
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On December 04 2011 00:34 Big J wrote:Show nested quote +On December 04 2011 00:32 jkang wrote:On December 04 2011 00:29 Djagulingu wrote:On December 04 2011 00:27 Mithridates wrote:
Someone needs to make Noblesse a hate club MC all-ins: OMGWORWEORDKAFN WHAT A MICRO ADSFOWEIRQOWE NERD CHILLS ASDFLJQWELJR BLAHBLAHBLAH Noblesse all-ins: he needs a hate club. ... Stay classy fanboys. MC hate club would have 10000 members if they could get founded when he first all-in'd and add a member every single time he all-ins. At least MC actually micros, nobless just 1-A'ed with his armies and made bunkers. Looks like there was no need to hence my point.
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On December 04 2011 00:46 MCMXVI wrote:Should be a gentlemen agreement in these kinds of matches, to not do mirror match-ups
That would be a pretty big blow to InCa though.
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Omfg....
TvP on Calm Before the Storm
a) long ass macro game
b) some retarded anti-climatic rush
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On December 04 2011 00:46 Fusilero wrote:Show nested quote +On December 04 2011 00:45 Shellshock1122 wrote:On December 04 2011 00:44 Fusilero wrote:On December 04 2011 00:43 Shellshock1122 wrote:On December 04 2011 00:43 Seeker wrote:
Ace Match:
oGsSuperNoVa
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WTF KIND OF ACE MATCH IS THAT? I guess they think Supernova is weakest vP I'm pretty sure guineapig is random in team leagues though at least he was in the GSTL I think they said he's racepicking protoss again. That's what he did in the Code A qualifiers has protoss symbol on load screen Hmmm okay then kind of sad a random player was always cool to see
Yea I thought him playing random was awesome, but I guess there's always the argument that he won't succeed as much in the individual leagues because he can only put 1/3 the amount of time into each race and has to learn 9 matchups instead of 3
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On December 04 2011 00:43 covetousrat wrote:Show nested quote +On December 04 2011 00:40 Mithridates wrote:On December 04 2011 00:38 covetousrat wrote:On December 04 2011 00:37 Mithridates wrote:On December 04 2011 00:35 covetousrat wrote:On December 04 2011 00:34 Mithridates wrote:On December 04 2011 00:31 Djagulingu wrote:On December 04 2011 00:31 Mithridates wrote:On December 04 2011 00:29 Djagulingu wrote:On December 04 2011 00:27 Mithridates wrote:
Someone needs to make Noblesse a hate club MC all-ins: OMGWORWEORDKAFN WHAT A MICRO ADSFOWEIRQOWE NERD CHILLS ASDFLJQWELJR BLAHBLAHBLAH Noblesse all-ins: he needs a hate club. ... Stay classy fanboys. MC hate club would have 10000 members if they could get founded when he first all-in'd and add a member every single time he all-ins. Hahah well thats a stretch. I would be a fan of MC no matter what kind of player he was simply because his personality is awesome And you can found a hate club for noblesse because he pulled off a 1-1-1 on MC on Crossfire? Also every protoss allins Z after a FFE. I cant remember the last time I saw Korean P take a 3rd after FFE. Clearly Korean P feel that they must all in vs a fast 3rd no matter what. You dont have to cheese as terran but noblesse has done it every game Ive seen him play in LiquidHero? Link please? He allins as well or goes DTs. Hero only takes a third after he kills Zs third which doesnt count http://www.teamliquidpro.com/news/2011/11/30/this-week-in-replays-14-hero If hes not playing a decent zerg dont waste my time. At least Code A. Im sure Hero takes thirds in NA ladder games Lol are you trolling me? Go watch his Dreamhack win.
The only Zerg he beat was Ret. Who is not Code A. He aslo beat TLO who has been Zerg for a week. Im not trolling i legitimately want to be wrong about this but there is no transition out of FFE. Please show me otherwirse
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On December 04 2011 00:47 SeaSwift wrote:Show nested quote +On December 04 2011 00:46 MCMXVI wrote:Should be a gentlemen agreement in these kinds of matches, to not do mirror match-ups That would be a pretty big blow to InCa though.
Mirror matchups are important for setting up snipes
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Oh wow, sick map for final game! hope this goes into split map macro mode!
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On December 04 2011 00:47 Mithridates wrote:Show nested quote +On December 04 2011 00:43 covetousrat wrote:On December 04 2011 00:40 Mithridates wrote:On December 04 2011 00:38 covetousrat wrote:On December 04 2011 00:37 Mithridates wrote:On December 04 2011 00:35 covetousrat wrote:On December 04 2011 00:34 Mithridates wrote:On December 04 2011 00:31 Djagulingu wrote:On December 04 2011 00:31 Mithridates wrote:On December 04 2011 00:29 Djagulingu wrote:
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MC all-ins: OMGWORWEORDKAFN WHAT A MICRO ADSFOWEIRQOWE NERD CHILLS ASDFLJQWELJR BLAHBLAHBLAH
Noblesse all-ins: he needs a hate club.
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Stay classy fanboys.
MC hate club would have 10000 members if they could get founded when he first all-in'd and add a member every single time he all-ins.
Hahah well thats a stretch. I would be a fan of MC no matter what kind of player he was simply because his personality is awesome And you can found a hate club for noblesse because he pulled off a 1-1-1 on MC on Crossfire? Also every protoss allins Z after a FFE. I cant remember the last time I saw Korean P take a 3rd after FFE. Clearly Korean P feel that they must all in vs a fast 3rd no matter what. You dont have to cheese as terran but noblesse has done it every game Ive seen him play in LiquidHero? Link please? He allins as well or goes DTs. Hero only takes a third after he kills Zs third which doesnt count http://www.teamliquidpro.com/news/2011/11/30/this-week-in-replays-14-hero If hes not playing a decent zerg dont waste my time. At least Code A. Im sure Hero takes thirds in NA ladder games Lol are you trolling me? Go watch his Dreamhack win. The only Zerg he beat was Ret. Who is not Code A. He aslo beat TLO who has been Zerg for a week. Im not trolling i legitimately want to be wrong about this but there is no transition out of FFE. Please show me otherwirse
You're most certainly trolling everybody else while not noticing you do so then.
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hmm factory build vs nexus first on that map is quite suicide though
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Looks like supernova is going for the same build he used against squirtle
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SuperNoVa should've been like "1/1/1 YOU'LL NEVER SEE IT COMING ON THIS MAP TROLOLOLOLOL"
and then GP would be like "......... this is the ace match? a 1/1/1?"
기니피그특공대 has left the game
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On December 04 2011 00:47 Mithridates wrote:
The only Zerg he beat was Ret. Who is not Code A. He aslo beat TLO who has been Zerg for a week. Im not trolling i legitimately want to be wrong about this but there is no transition out of FFE. Please show me otherwirse
Watch HuK's stream. He frequently takes a fast 3rd off of an FFE.
Not recently, because he's been in tournaments, but in general, watch his stream. He goes for a fast 6 gates then either pressures or takes a 3rd depending on what his Probes/roaming Zealots scout.
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On December 04 2011 00:48 Itsmedudeman wrote:
Looks like supernova is going for the same build he used against squirtle
Looks like it to me too, Marine drop in the back and hellions in the front? Then an expo behind it.
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On December 04 2011 00:47 Asha` wrote:Show nested quote +On December 04 2011 00:46 MrCon wrote:
You'll see, GP will pwn. Especially on Calm haha. SuperNova accounts for 50% of all terran wins on calm @ 2-0 =p (the others being noblesse metagaming inca with a naked 2 rax and jjakji's awesome game vs puzzle)
Ho yeah that's true.
But GP impressed me a lot with his vP in the weekly, I think he has this.
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results now?
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Marine-Hellion elevator incoming for Supernova. Should be able to do alot of damage since GuineaPig has like 2 units atm.
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On December 04 2011 00:44 iNfeRnaL wrote:Show nested quote +On December 04 2011 00:40 Goibon wrote:On December 04 2011 00:31 iNfeRnaL wrote:
what's wrong with all the noblesse hate?
he played a pretty damn good game that could and should be recommended to any terran who wants to learn his race.
not even joking, yes it was allin, deal with it, its a part of the game. lol can't tell if serious... i'll bite. What was useful to learn from that game which hasn't already been mapped out in every other 111 victory to date? Don't lose 1 banshee to 2 stalkers? Just because something has been done before that means his micro was bad? In fact if anyones it was MC's micro being bad while countless people cried "BUT MC MICROED" when he actually horribly mismicroed. Btw, I'm Protoss myself, I hate 1-1-1 too - but it's not the fucking players fault do use a buildorder which has about 85% winrate on specific maps, so why do people blame him for using this buildorder AND even executing it nearly perfect? Again, does it make his micro worse and MC's better just because "it's been done before"?
I was just asking why it was educational for a Terran, which is what you said it was. I see no educational value from that other than "use 111 vs protoss". Don't need to show a Terran that game to educate them on this already known fact.
I can see it being useful for a Protoss though, MC handled it pretty poorly, plenty of mistakes to learn from. I agree with you 100% on that point.
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On December 04 2011 00:49 kusu wrote:results now? hehe
5-5
Final match
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I feel that Supernova could have killed more Probes there.
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Very nice to see Guineapig cover his ramp with a stalker block.
Nova looking to make up for a lack of damage there by taking a fast third.
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Guineabip too good for that pesky little harass.
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Well, that was sad. Supernova going for fast 3rd to try and catchup.
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You're killing me Seeker!
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Got a LOT of Probes with those Hellions.
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Holy shit, that last volley killed off so many probes.
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Ouch, that line of probes were roasted. Not pleasant.
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How do you lose so many probes vs 2 Hellions?
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On December 04 2011 00:51 MrCon wrote:
Guineabip too good for that pesky little harass.
oops xD
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On December 04 2011 00:48 iNfeRnaL wrote:Show nested quote +On December 04 2011 00:47 Mithridates wrote:On December 04 2011 00:43 covetousrat wrote:On December 04 2011 00:40 Mithridates wrote:On December 04 2011 00:38 covetousrat wrote:On December 04 2011 00:37 Mithridates wrote:On December 04 2011 00:35 covetousrat wrote:On December 04 2011 00:34 Mithridates wrote:On December 04 2011 00:31 Djagulingu wrote:On December 04 2011 00:31 Mithridates wrote:
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Hahah well thats a stretch. I would be a fan of MC no matter what kind of player he was simply because his personality is awesome And you can found a hate club for noblesse because he pulled off a 1-1-1 on MC on Crossfire? Also every protoss allins Z after a FFE. I cant remember the last time I saw Korean P take a 3rd after FFE. Clearly Korean P feel that they must all in vs a fast 3rd no matter what. You dont have to cheese as terran but noblesse has done it every game Ive seen him play in LiquidHero? Link please? He allins as well or goes DTs. Hero only takes a third after he kills Zs third which doesnt count http://www.teamliquidpro.com/news/2011/11/30/this-week-in-replays-14-hero If hes not playing a decent zerg dont waste my time. At least Code A. Im sure Hero takes thirds in NA ladder games Lol are you trolling me? Go watch his Dreamhack win. The only Zerg he beat was Ret. Who is not Code A. He aslo beat TLO who has been Zerg for a week. Im not trolling i legitimately want to be wrong about this but there is no transition out of FFE. Please show me otherwirse You're most certainly trolling everybody else while not noticing you do so then.
Lol im stopping this. There's no point in trying to convince someone when he has already make up his mind. @@
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On December 04 2011 00:52 Goibon wrote:
You're killing me Seeker!
how?
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With that much tech going down, GP needs to push sometime soon or expo at least if he wants to be able to compete with 3 base T
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So glad to see supernova always getting a raven
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I feel like SuperNova's comfortably ahead with his 3rd up.
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strange choice to put down 3 turrets instead of a PDD
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That was a pretty close one by Supernova, if GuineaPig had sentries, it would have been over.
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On December 04 2011 00:53 Seeker wrote:how?
Calling it an ace match like Moletrap does.
It's ok though, SuperNova built a RAVEN.
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On December 04 2011 00:54 Assaulter wrote:
strange choice to put down 3 turrets instead of a PDD
PDD range might not be enough for that many stalkers I think 3 turrets are better.
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Holy shit 1-2 bars left on that Colossi @_@
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lol turret killing collosus :D
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Ooooh, gets the Nexus AND the Colossus with a stray auto-turret.
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Autoturret kills colossus :o
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So cute, SuperNova sniping the colossus off with an auto turret xD
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Genius play by Supernova with the autoturret.
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Boss Auto turret kills the collosus
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LOL that's the first time i've ever seen an auto turret kill a colossus, nice nexus snipe, and resetting the colossus count back to zero really hurts the chances of GP taking this
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GuineaPig forgetting his upgrades for a moment there.
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that raven is annoying haha ;_))
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On December 04 2011 00:55 Goibon wrote:Show nested quote +On December 04 2011 00:53 Seeker wrote:On December 04 2011 00:52 Goibon wrote:
You're killing me Seeker! how? Calling it an ace match like Moletrap does. It's ok though, SuperNova built a RAVEN.
Score is 5-5 with both teams only having 1 player left to represent.
I say that's an Ace match right there!!!
but I wanted
 fOrGG vs  DRG but apparently oGs and MVP don't like us
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Viking count at 4 to 1 Colossus, Supernova wayyy ahead.
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On December 04 2011 00:56 Seeker wrote:Show nested quote +On December 04 2011 00:55 Goibon wrote:On December 04 2011 00:53 Seeker wrote:On December 04 2011 00:52 Goibon wrote:
You're killing me Seeker! how? Calling it an ace match like Moletrap does. It's ok though, SuperNova built a RAVEN. Score is 5-5 with both teams only having 1 player left to represent. I say that's an Ace match right there!!! but I wanted fOrGG vs DRG but apparently oGs and MVP don't like us
Not an ace match in the sense that in a real ace match both teams pick the player from their entire roster. I think.
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DRG is out already by MC
btw, supernova multitask is crazily good
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On December 04 2011 00:57 bqm wrote:
DRG is out already by MC
btw, supernova multitask is crazily good
I know that...... I'm just saying that's what I wanted
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NOOOOO The Raven is dead :'(
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Supernova is just by far the better player tbh. On calm it's just pretty easy to sit on 3 Bases . Even with an advantage the bases are to near to prevent that.
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guineapig why are you willingly engaging without your stalkers >.>
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Why is he ignoring the Vikings and letting his colossus die?
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SuperNova 40 supply up, with a far earlier 4th. Even losing a couple of Vikings there wasn't too bad.
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I think this Map could use a change to make the third more exposed . It's too easy to defend right now in my mind.
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Haa reduce the medivac count GP please, you'll never weaken the next push without doing that.
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GP being over run
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supernova double in supply and still loses every battle..
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well that was a pretty 1 sided game =( really good series nonetheless, thanks a lot for the matches
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Really great game from SuperNova, hard to fault him.
Love that he's maximising all of his units.
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ramp block with MULEs... I love SuperNova.
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Manner mules coming in...AND oGs SHALL REIGN SUPREME
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hahaha mules drop block the ramp hahaha
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LOL MULES BLOCKING ARCHON
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Lol at the mule force field....
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Using manner mules to block the ramp loooool
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Don't have FF ? Block ramp with mules.
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Haha the mule drop and hold position, so cute
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supernova using manner mules to block ramps
so gosu lmao
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GuineaPig disagrees with the mules. He will soon find out the mules were correct.
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Just when you thought mules couldn't get any more op =p
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this toss literally just makes a-move units lol
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Goddamn protoss is hard to kill.
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1 base to about 5. It's time for the comeback, GP!
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On December 04 2011 01:06 eourcs wrote:
Goddamn protoss is hard to kill.
More the map than the race
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SuperNoVa clutching it up for oGs.
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About time, GuineaPig stayed in that game far too long.
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Great clan war
So much good Korean starcraft today <33
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On December 04 2011 01:06 eourcs wrote:
Goddamn protoss is hard to kill.
You clearly didn't see Leenock vs MVP Game 2, son *_*
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Persones in chat said forgg
I agree with him!
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Love these clan wars, great seeing more korean matches ;D
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The OP updates slowly, who played who today?
Nvm post above me. :D
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Thanks KSL for great series, I LOVE Teamleague unfortunately GSTL season is over.
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Enjoyed the hell out of that. Bo11 is ftw!!
Man what a day. 5am... i'm so tired. But so happy. So much great SC2 today.
+ Show Spoiler +
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and sorry to said, we need to ban this OP.... he did not update thread at all.
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Great series overall, congratulations to oGs for having MC and SuperNova to carry them. ;p
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ooo MC beat dongraegu and got a 3 kill what a boss. Are there going to be vods?
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On December 04 2011 01:09 bqm wrote:
and sorry to said, we need to ban this OP.... he did not update thread at all.
I just want to warn everyone there is a chance that I might pass out at my computer, I've been awake since KSL yesterday. Gonna try my best to make it all the way through this, but if I don't I'll update the OP when I return from slumber.
From page 2.
I think " we " need to ban people who don't read anything.
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On December 04 2011 01:09 bqm wrote:
and sorry to said, we need to ban this OP.... he did not update thread at all.
lmao i missed all of it except for the last game because of the op. my fault for not seeing it on the on air: stream. i just looked at the op and it showed that it hasn't started so then i looked at upcoming events so i was like... it's probably later tonight
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On December 04 2011 01:09 bqm wrote:
and sorry to said, we need to ban this OP.... he did not update thread at all.
No we shouldn't, If he had a history of doing it then we should but as a one time thing he shouldn't be. Especially considering how much effort he put into making / hyping it.
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On December 04 2011 01:09 bqm wrote:
and sorry to said, we need to ban this OP.... he did not update thread at all.
ASDKFJASKLDFJA;SDKFAKSFASDF;J
AS I'VE STATED BEFORE LIKE 3X
He's been up since yesterday's KSL!
He even warned us that he was on the verge of passing out
After watching KSL, NASL, GSL I'd be exhausted too. Cut him some slack plz
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On December 04 2011 01:11 Dodgin wrote:Show nested quote +On December 04 2011 01:09 bqm wrote:
and sorry to said, we need to ban this OP.... he did not update thread at all. I just want to warn everyone there is a chance that I might pass out at my computer, I've been awake since KSL yesterday. Gonna try my best to make it all the way through this, but if I don't I'll update the OP when I return from slumber.From page 2. I think " we " need to ban people who don't read anything.
if he knew he might pass out, then why would he start the thread... let someone else do it.
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On December 04 2011 01:09 Goibon wrote:Enjoyed the hell out of that. Bo11 is ftw!! Man what a day. 5am... i'm so tired. But so happy. So much great SC2 today. + Show Spoiler +
Not bad, not exceptional. Mostly ok+. Hard to watch after seeing GSL tho imo.
Impressed by SN here. Choosing the map and the race lastly played by your code S opponent was perhaps not very smart.
He used the same build he used in code S, and it was visible he trained hard for this map.
Good KSL again
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Pretty long LR thread for a non major tournament
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To be fair people have got warned for doing exactly what the OP in this case did. It's like... shouldn't make the thread if you can't update it.
It has been a hectic day though that's for sure.
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On December 04 2011 01:13 Goibon wrote:
To be fair people have got warned for doing exactly what the OP in this case did. It's like... shouldn't make the thread if you can't update it.
It has been a hectic day though that's for sure.
yeah. And if he didn't made the thread, no one would have done it (imo). Usually I don't like OP that don't update, but today is a special case.
And nasl day 2 starts just as I'll go to sleep, like yesterday xD. (yeah, sleeping at 5pm a Saturday, LOL@me)
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On December 04 2011 01:11 akalarry wrote:Show nested quote +On December 04 2011 01:11 Dodgin wrote:On December 04 2011 01:09 bqm wrote:
and sorry to said, we need to ban this OP.... he did not update thread at all. I just want to warn everyone there is a chance that I might pass out at my computer, I've been awake since KSL yesterday. Gonna try my best to make it all the way through this, but if I don't I'll update the OP when I return from slumber.From page 2. I think " we " need to ban people who don't read anything. if he knew he might pass out, then why would he start the thread... let someone else do it.
That I don't know, but it was made almost 24 hours ago so I assume he thought he would be able to.
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Great comeback by oGs. MC and Supernova doing work. I think it's hilarious how Inca's infamously bad pvz automatically gets him zerg opponents.
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On December 04 2011 01:11 akalarry wrote:Show nested quote +On December 04 2011 01:11 Dodgin wrote:On December 04 2011 01:09 bqm wrote:
and sorry to said, we need to ban this OP.... he did not update thread at all. I just want to warn everyone there is a chance that I might pass out at my computer, I've been awake since KSL yesterday. Gonna try my best to make it all the way through this, but if I don't I'll update the OP when I return from slumber.From page 2. I think " we " need to ban people who don't read anything. if he knew he might pass out, then why would he start the thread... let someone else do it.
Guy does something for everyone => bash him for not doing it perfectly.
You're a really nice human being, you know that.
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On December 04 2011 01:13 Itsmedudeman wrote:
Pretty long LR thread for a non major tournament
Thank you. Thank you. Drazerk and I worked hard. We had about 4 posts per page
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Good work fellas. Maybe the bigger threads will make people notice and help get this train moving.
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On December 04 2011 01:14 MrCon wrote:Show nested quote +On December 04 2011 01:13 Goibon wrote:
To be fair people have got warned for doing exactly what the OP in this case did. It's like... shouldn't make the thread if you can't update it.
It has been a hectic day though that's for sure. yeah. And if he didn't made the thread, no one would have done it (imo). Usually I don't like OP that don't update, but today is a special case. And nasl day 2 starts just as I'll go to sleep, like yesterday xD. (yeah, sleeping at 5pm a Saturday, LOL@me)
To be fair he at least included the Liquipedia page which is almost always up to date and imo is easier to check :D.
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You know he's gonna wake up tomorrow and see people hating on him.
I LOVE YOU VIRGILSC2.
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On December 04 2011 01:24 Goibon wrote:
You know he's gonna wake up tomorrow and see people hating on him.
I LOVE YOU VIRGILSC2.
He's not going to care because the ppl who love him > ppl who are complaining
Add me the the I <3 u VirgilSC2 list
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Me too. Virgil deserves some love.
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On December 04 2011 01:14 MrCon wrote:Show nested quote +On December 04 2011 01:13 Goibon wrote:
To be fair people have got warned for doing exactly what the OP in this case did. It's like... shouldn't make the thread if you can't update it.
It has been a hectic day though that's for sure. yeah. And if he didn't made the thread, no one would have done it (imo). Usually I don't like OP that don't update, but today is a special case.
Agreed. Besides the original Khaldor thread, all the LR's have been created by Virgil. He took the time to find out the format of the KSL and post the lineups for the day.
There was also the Liquipedia link provided in the very first sentence which was kept fully updated. Honestly, I feel that the haters have only themselves to blame for not knowing their resources.
<3 Virgil.
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On December 04 2011 01:09 Goibon wrote:Enjoyed the hell out of that. Bo11 is ftw!! Man what a day. 5am... i'm so tired. But so happy. So much great SC2 today. + Show Spoiler +
Games were pretty great actually. The Dimaga vs BratOK series was awesome!
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Are there going to be vods for this since Khaldor didn't cast?
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<3 Virgil even though i don't know who the fuck you are.
Anyone who stops being a lazy ass and initiate something deserves <3 man.
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On December 04 2011 01:51 NrGmonk wrote:
Are there going to be vods for this since Khaldor didn't cast?
http://www.own3d.tv/kigh34#/watch/315937 right there some of the match is already uploaded its seems. I don't think there are any english vods though.
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On December 04 2011 01:19 Seeker wrote:Gonna keep posting this until OP updates so that ppl see the score oGs vs MVP Bo11 JookTo <Dual Sight>  Tails TheStC <Antiga Shipyard> Tails TOP <Bel'Shir Beach Winter> Tails InCa <Crossfire SE> Tails InCa <Daybreak> DRG MC <Tal'Darim Altar LE> DRG MC <Calm Before the Storm> Vampire MC <Dual Sight> Monster MC <Crossfire SE> Noblesse SuperNoVa <Antiga Shipyard> Noblesse Final Match - oGsSuperNoVa <Calm Before the Storm> MVP_GuineaPig Final Score:oGs 6 - 5 MVP
Thank you! I was wondering what the scores were. Pretty bummed i missed this, i love me some winner's league format!
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i really enjoyed the matches.
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I apologize for the very late update on the OP, I had an incredibly long (and Starcraft filled) day yesterday, and I passed out before this even started. I had still been awake from the Prime vs StarTale KSL match when GSL ended. I hope I didn't rub too many people the wrong way. Thread is 100% up to date now, unless I missed something.
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On December 04 2011 03:58 VirgilSC2 wrote:
I apologize for the very late update on the OP, I had an incredibly long (and Starcraft filled) day yesterday, and I passed out before this even started. I had still been awake from the Prime vs StarTale KSL match when GSL ended. I hope I didn't rub too many people the wrong way. Thread is 100% up to date now, unless I missed something.
Don't feel bad me and seeker kept people updated ( mainly seeker ) ♥
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Vods on Khaldor's stream dont work for me
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Protoss went big for both teams in that team match, wow
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Sorry that there was no cast today guys. I never said I would cast this clanwar. I can and will not cast every one of the KSL events, it's simply not possible for me. I will cover as many as I can though. After the GSL Final we went out with the guys of FXO and the cab ride back took us more than an hour due to the heavy traffic. If we would have been back in time I would probably have casted anyways but that was not the case.
Probably going to cast sundays clanwar though.
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On December 04 2011 06:02 Khaldor wrote:
Sorry that there was no cast today guys. I never said I would cast this clanwar. I can and will not cast every one of the KSL events, it's simply not possible for me. I will cover as many as I can though. After the GSL Final we went out with the guys of FXO and the cab ride back took us more than an hour due to the heavy traffic. If we would have been back in time I would probably have casted anyways but that was not the case.
Probably going to cast sundays clanwar though.
That's OK <3
Hope to see more casting with ToD in future.
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nice to see MC doing well
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Seeker
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On December 04 2011 04:00 Drazerk wrote:Show nested quote +On December 04 2011 03:58 VirgilSC2 wrote:
I apologize for the very late update on the OP, I had an incredibly long (and Starcraft filled) day yesterday, and I passed out before this even started. I had still been awake from the Prime vs StarTale KSL match when GSL ended. I hope I didn't rub too many people the wrong way. Thread is 100% up to date now, unless I missed something. Don't feel bad me and seeker kept people updated ( mainly seeker ) ♥
Nah. U were on top of things too Draz~!
Virgil, good job on updating the OP and then telling everyone your situation. Don't worry, we love u man. Know that
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MC pulling out a bunch of wins.
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Good to see MC getting back to his winning ways...
Could I suggest naming the vods to something more recognizable like [KSL] oGs vs MVP part 1 / 2 , etc.?
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Any vods for this up yet?
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