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Same drill as usual:
  • No caster bashing.
  • Excessive tournament bashing that detracts from game discussion will be met with moderator action. Criticism is welcome, whining is not.
  • In general do your best to stay on topic and discuss what we're all here for: the games.
Enjoy the games guys.
poorcloud
Profile Joined April 2011
Singapore2748 Posts
December 02 2011 10:49 GMT
#61
I think the player pool is nothing too impressive but i don't mind if i get to see lots of cool games from all these other players. Didn't follow NASL at all during the regular season but i think the grand finals is gonna be a good one!
Superouman
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
France2195 Posts
December 02 2011 10:59 GMT
#62
Crevasse? :s
People still play crevasse?
Search "[SO]" on B.net to find all my maps ||| Cloud Kingdom / Turbo Cruise '84 / Bone Temple / Eternal Empire / Zen / Purity and Industry / Golden Wall / Fortitude / Beckett Industries / Waterfall
scruffeh
Profile Joined November 2010
England196 Posts
December 02 2011 11:03 GMT
#63
Awww. Demuslim versus Thorzain at a time when hardly anyone from Sweden or the UK will be able to watch. Sad times, but looking forward to the tournament
brentsen
Profile Joined November 2010
1252 Posts
December 02 2011 11:06 GMT
#64
I hope for some excellency.
Full.tilt
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United Kingdom1709 Posts
December 02 2011 11:08 GMT
#65
I hope the sound guy turns up.
GreenAndOrangeTurtle
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia193 Posts
December 02 2011 11:12 GMT
#66
On December 02 2011 19:38 genius_man16 wrote:
There is NO way they are gonna stay on schedule past like the first series.

A Bo3 can easily last an hour, and they expect to get EVERY BO5 in under 75 min? That's absurd. I won't be surprised to see this go an extra 3 hours at least. Especially if a lot of them go 5 games with lots of macro games.

Hopefully for NASL's sake there are a lot of short games to offset the macro games.


Definitely agree. They must be banking on a lot of 3-0s or cheese to keep it on schedule. I wouldn't be surprised is there is a TvT series that take over 2.30. If that happens they are going to be over an hour behind schedule.
Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former - Albert Einstein
IndridCold
Profile Joined August 2010
United States385 Posts
December 02 2011 11:15 GMT
#67
Really hoping demuslim makes a long run in this tournament just to see his form and have a little more understanding of his skill before he goes to the slayers house right after this tourny.
Evil Geniuses needs a LoL team.... Pobelter/Altec fan
Thorakh
Profile Joined April 2011
Netherlands1788 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-02 11:29:21
December 02 2011 11:28 GMT
#68
LiquidHerO 3-1 GoSuHwangSin
EGHuK 3-1 mouz.HasuObs
mTw.DIMAGA ?-? imba.FXOBrat_OK
Gamania.Sen 3-0 mTw.TT1
mouz.MorroW 2-3 mouz.MaNa
mouz.ThorZaIN ?-? EGDeMusliM
EGIdrA 3-1 imba.FXOStrelok
LiquidSheth 0-3 EGPuMa

My predictions!
Primadog
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4411 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-02 11:41:11
December 02 2011 11:32 GMT
#69
On December 02 2011 20:12 GreenAndOrangeTurtle wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 02 2011 19:38 genius_man16 wrote:
There is NO way they are gonna stay on schedule past like the first series.

A Bo3 can easily last an hour, and they expect to get EVERY BO5 in under 75 min? That's absurd. I won't be surprised to see this go an extra 3 hours at least. Especially if a lot of them go 5 games with lots of macro games.

Hopefully for NASL's sake there are a lot of short games to offset the macro games.


Definitely agree. They must be banking on a lot of 3-0s or cheese to keep it on schedule. I wouldn't be surprised is there is a TvT series that take over 2.30. If that happens they are going to be over an hour behind schedule.


I actually been researching the length of bo3 heavily recently.

Based on my collection of data (to be put together in a proper blog in future), typical broadcasted bo3 averages 40 minutes in length, with standard deviation of 12 minutes (strangely, regardless of whether it's a 2-game or 3-game set). This means you can expect over 95% of bo3 to end by 1 hr and 4 minute mark. I have not researched bo5 lengths yet.

What this bracket has going for it is it starting with two sets of PvPs, which averages 10 minutes shorter than other matchups. Therefore, excluding technical troubles, I expect the first day to end no later than a hour past schedule. They missed a great opportunity to shave schedule time by scheduling their PvPs later in the day, and ht TvTs earlier. That way, if a matchup ran pass its slot, the PvPs should help the broadcast catch up to the planned schedule.
Thank God and gunrun.
Frankon
Profile Joined May 2010
3054 Posts
December 02 2011 11:39 GMT
#70
On December 02 2011 14:21 Primadog wrote:
I hope the little team logos catch on! They're all located here http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Template:Team

Hmm TL is european team... Fix the wiki ^^
netsky4
Profile Joined June 2011
Austria511 Posts
December 02 2011 11:40 GMT
#71
Day9 and Bitterdam.. well played NASL <3
Xcobidoo
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden1871 Posts
December 02 2011 11:44 GMT
#72
Nearly all of Mouz playing, impressive.
Hoping for Randy Anderson (and his ex wife ofc), Tejbz, Lindsey Sporrer and NASL sound guy to all make an appearance before the finals!
Supreme Intergalactic Commander
Bomkia
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden48 Posts
December 02 2011 11:47 GMT
#73
I love the fact that it's always bo5 or more.
True_Spike
Profile Joined July 2004
Poland3417 Posts
December 02 2011 11:56 GMT
#74
Most Europeans won't stick around for long with this kind of schedule.
Frankon
Profile Joined May 2010
3054 Posts
December 02 2011 12:05 GMT
#75
On December 02 2011 20:56 True_Spike wrote:
Most Europeans won't stick around for long with this kind of schedule.

Well they want us to buy the HD pass.
nihlon
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden5581 Posts
December 02 2011 12:27 GMT
#76
On December 02 2011 20:32 Primadog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 02 2011 20:12 GreenAndOrangeTurtle wrote:
On December 02 2011 19:38 genius_man16 wrote:
There is NO way they are gonna stay on schedule past like the first series.

A Bo3 can easily last an hour, and they expect to get EVERY BO5 in under 75 min? That's absurd. I won't be surprised to see this go an extra 3 hours at least. Especially if a lot of them go 5 games with lots of macro games.

Hopefully for NASL's sake there are a lot of short games to offset the macro games.


Definitely agree. They must be banking on a lot of 3-0s or cheese to keep it on schedule. I wouldn't be surprised is there is a TvT series that take over 2.30. If that happens they are going to be over an hour behind schedule.


I actually been researching the length of bo3 heavily recently.

Based on my collection of data (to be put together in a proper blog in future), typical broadcasted bo3 averages 40 minutes in length, with standard deviation of 12 minutes (strangely, regardless of whether it's a 2-game or 3-game set). This means you can expect over 95% of bo3 to end by 1 hr and 4 minute mark. I have not researched bo5 lengths yet.

What this bracket has going for it is it starting with two sets of PvPs, which averages 10 minutes shorter than other matchups. Therefore, excluding technical troubles, I expect the first day to end no later than a hour past schedule. They missed a great opportunity to shave schedule time by scheduling their PvPs later in the day, and ht TvTs earlier. That way, if a matchup ran pass its slot, the PvPs should help the broadcast catch up to the planned schedule.

Yay for statistics!
Banelings are too cute to blow up
SafeAsCheese
Profile Joined June 2011
United States4924 Posts
December 02 2011 12:28 GMT
#77
On December 02 2011 19:49 poorcloud wrote:
I think the player pool is nothing too impressive but i don't mind if i get to see lots of cool games from all these other players. Didn't follow NASL at all during the regular season but i think the grand finals is gonna be a good one!


Why do I keep seeing shit like this?

There were no people in the EU battlenet invitational threads saying "Well, I would watch this, but the players are fucking awful scrubby foreigners.... so eh...."

Seems to only happen to NASL...
FunnelC4kes
Profile Joined July 2010
Ireland462 Posts
December 02 2011 12:33 GMT
#78
looking at the schedule, I wonder: when the match finishes early, will they bump the schedule up?
Scholar. Shaman. Starcraft Enthusiast.
FreudianTrip
Profile Joined July 2011
Switzerland1983 Posts
December 02 2011 12:35 GMT
#79
Ugh, HoN first. Totally unwatchable in 360p. (It's a struggle at 480)
Full.tilt
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United Kingdom1709 Posts
December 02 2011 12:39 GMT
#80
On December 02 2011 21:28 SafeAsCheese wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 02 2011 19:49 poorcloud wrote:
I think the player pool is nothing too impressive but i don't mind if i get to see lots of cool games from all these other players. Didn't follow NASL at all during the regular season but i think the grand finals is gonna be a good one!


Why do I keep seeing shit like this?

There were no people in the EU battlenet invitational threads saying "Well, I would watch this, but the players are fucking awful scrubby foreigners.... so eh...."

Seems to only happen to NASL...


I think that was rather mild compared to the inevitable "wheres the koreans? this tourney doesn't count if no gsl winners in it" post or two that come up during other koreanless tourney's.
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