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Same drill as usual:
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  • In general do your best to stay on topic and discuss what we're all here for: the games.
Enjoy the games guys.
andaylin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States10830 Posts
December 03 2011 05:31 GMT
#7801
On December 03 2011 14:30 hysterial wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2011 14:28 andaylin wrote:
On December 03 2011 14:27 godemperor wrote:
come on, not marine tank again, this is why i dont like tvt.

You can't go mech every time or you'll get meta gamed to death - MMA vs MVP GSL finals last season.


You clearly don't understand what the term metagame means.

You clearly don't.
"Hard work beats talent when talent fails to work hard." - Kevin Durant
hysterial
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2044 Posts
December 03 2011 05:32 GMT
#7802
On December 03 2011 14:31 andaylin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2011 14:30 hysterial wrote:
On December 03 2011 14:28 andaylin wrote:
On December 03 2011 14:27 godemperor wrote:
come on, not marine tank again, this is why i dont like tvt.

You can't go mech every time or you'll get meta gamed to death - MMA vs MVP GSL finals last season.


You clearly don't understand what the term metagame means.

You clearly don't.


How on earth is bio the counter to mech? That is what you are implying by your statement....
Juvant
Profile Joined April 2011
United States723 Posts
December 03 2011 05:32 GMT
#7803
On December 03 2011 14:31 mierin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2011 14:30 Juvant wrote:
Demu getting some shit spawns today


Hate to see this happen to anyone...kind of cheapens the matchup in a way, wish they were cross



I feel like the results would be the same regardless, but Demuslim is more than capable of being competitive with Thorzain.
stratmatt
Profile Joined April 2011
United States913 Posts
December 03 2011 05:32 GMT
#7804
reaper helion medivac
KhAmun
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1005 Posts
December 03 2011 05:33 GMT
#7805
Same type of spawns, luckily no high ground over natural area like in crevasse.
mierin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4943 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-03 05:33:53
December 03 2011 05:33 GMT
#7806
On December 03 2011 14:32 Juvant wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2011 14:31 mierin wrote:
On December 03 2011 14:30 Juvant wrote:
Demu getting some shit spawns today


Hate to see this happen to anyone...kind of cheapens the matchup in a way, wish they were cross



I feel like the results would be the same regardless, but Demuslim is more than capable of being competitive with Thorzain.


Fair enough, but it just hurts for banshee vs. worst spawn location
JD, Stork, Calm, Hyuk Fighting!
andaylin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States10830 Posts
December 03 2011 05:33 GMT
#7807
On December 03 2011 14:32 hysterial wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2011 14:31 andaylin wrote:
On December 03 2011 14:30 hysterial wrote:
On December 03 2011 14:28 andaylin wrote:
On December 03 2011 14:27 godemperor wrote:
come on, not marine tank again, this is why i dont like tvt.

You can't go mech every time or you'll get meta gamed to death - MMA vs MVP GSL finals last season.


You clearly don't understand what the term metagame means.

You clearly don't.


How on earth is bio the counter to mech? That is what you are implying by your statement....

Bio into biomech. I saw that it countered MVP pretty well.
"Hard work beats talent when talent fails to work hard." - Kevin Durant
generalyao
Profile Joined July 2011
United States262 Posts
December 03 2011 05:33 GMT
#7808
The crowd really represents the saying "Quality over quantity". I really hope more people show up over the weekend.
poorcloud
Profile Joined April 2011
Singapore2748 Posts
December 03 2011 05:33 GMT
#7809
On December 03 2011 14:32 hysterial wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2011 14:31 andaylin wrote:
On December 03 2011 14:30 hysterial wrote:
On December 03 2011 14:28 andaylin wrote:
On December 03 2011 14:27 godemperor wrote:
come on, not marine tank again, this is why i dont like tvt.

You can't go mech every time or you'll get meta gamed to death - MMA vs MVP GSL finals last season.


You clearly don't understand what the term metagame means.

You clearly don't.


How on earth is bio the counter to mech? That is what you are implying by your statement....


MMAs way of playing bio is pretty much the sickest counter to mech. Use your early game army strength to outexpand your opponent so you can get tanks too and lay down a contain on the turtling mech opponent. Then just base trade + drops to abuse the mobility of mech when it gets 200/200.
Monoamine
Profile Joined April 2011
United States153 Posts
December 03 2011 05:33 GMT
#7810
On December 03 2011 14:29 Synwave wrote:
Husky in this lighting = brat_ok or am I the only one that sees it?

Every time I see BRAT_OK's Liquibet pic it reminds me of Husky.
Jackle
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada859 Posts
December 03 2011 05:33 GMT
#7811
1-1-1 pretty good vs any race.
You called down the thunder, now reap the whirlwind.
UndoneJin
Profile Joined February 2011
United States438 Posts
December 03 2011 05:34 GMT
#7812
I feel like my fellow nerds in So-Cal need to step it up for Sat-Sun. A bigger crowd would make this so much cooler, especially the walk-in and just overall atmosphere. It's...deathly quiet O_o
I've been lost since the day I was born ----- You're gonna carry that weight
andaylin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States10830 Posts
December 03 2011 05:34 GMT
#7813
Hahaha thorzain mad at losing to 1-1-1 in dreamhack and is doing it himself now ^^
"Hard work beats talent when talent fails to work hard." - Kevin Durant
Badfatpanda
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States9719 Posts
December 03 2011 05:34 GMT
#7814
On December 03 2011 14:30 setzer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2011 14:27 Badfatpanda wrote:
really bad spawns for demu, cross spawns on nearly every other map but I still don't know why that's in the pool and even why it's the first map lol >.>

Also, I don't think anyone picked TDA today is it in the pool?


It's in the pool because it has been part of the entire season. Don't blame the map positions, Demuslim got outplayed in every aspect of the game.


How can you not blame the spawns lol, did you watch any of the TvT GSL matches on Crevasse? Do you know why it's not in the pool anymore? If it was PvT or PvZ and we saw MaNa do a 2 base colo push against MorroW or ThorZaIN EVERYONE would be bitching about positions, I'm tired of this Mouz EG shitfest.
Music is a higher revelation than all wisdom and philosophy. -Beethoven | Mech isn't a build, it's a way of life. -MajOr | Charlie.Sheen: "What is sarcastic, kids who have no courage to fight?" | #TerranPride #yolo #swag -Naama after 2-0'ing MC at HSC VI
KalWarkov
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Germany4126 Posts
December 03 2011 05:34 GMT
#7815
On December 03 2011 14:32 hysterial wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2011 14:31 andaylin wrote:
On December 03 2011 14:30 hysterial wrote:
On December 03 2011 14:28 andaylin wrote:
On December 03 2011 14:27 godemperor wrote:
come on, not marine tank again, this is why i dont like tvt.

You can't go mech every time or you'll get meta gamed to death - MMA vs MVP GSL finals last season.


You clearly don't understand what the term metagame means.

You clearly don't.


How on earth is bio the counter to mech? That is what you are implying by your statement....



unfortionally, both of u dont know what the acutal term metagame means. But 95% use this term wrong, i dont care too much tbh

and well, mech is kind of abusable cause immobile. but there is no such thing as clear "counter" to mech-style, so you can very much play it every game i believe.
DiaBoLuS ** Sc2 - Protoss: 16x GM | Dota2 - Offlane Immortal | Wc3 - Undead decent level | Diablo nerd | Chess / Magnus fanboy | BVB | Agnostic***
hysterial
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2044 Posts
December 03 2011 05:34 GMT
#7816
On December 03 2011 14:33 andaylin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2011 14:32 hysterial wrote:
On December 03 2011 14:31 andaylin wrote:
On December 03 2011 14:30 hysterial wrote:
On December 03 2011 14:28 andaylin wrote:
On December 03 2011 14:27 godemperor wrote:
come on, not marine tank again, this is why i dont like tvt.

You can't go mech every time or you'll get meta gamed to death - MMA vs MVP GSL finals last season.


You clearly don't understand what the term metagame means.

You clearly don't.


How on earth is bio the counter to mech? That is what you are implying by your statement....

Bio into biomech. I saw that it countered MVP pretty well.


You most definently didn't analyze the games correctly, if you think that MMAs builds were counters to MVPs. MMA just played better, it had nothing to do with builds. Mech when played correctly beats all.
OMGKEI
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia590 Posts
December 03 2011 05:34 GMT
#7817
I just love how Terran are getting 1-1-1 themselves
setzer
Profile Joined March 2010
United States3284 Posts
December 03 2011 05:34 GMT
#7818
On December 03 2011 14:32 hysterial wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2011 14:31 andaylin wrote:
On December 03 2011 14:30 hysterial wrote:
On December 03 2011 14:28 andaylin wrote:
On December 03 2011 14:27 godemperor wrote:
come on, not marine tank again, this is why i dont like tvt.

You can't go mech every time or you'll get meta gamed to death - MMA vs MVP GSL finals last season.


You clearly don't understand what the term metagame means.

You clearly don't.


How on earth is bio the counter to mech? That is what you are implying by your statement....


Bio is a composition, what MMA did is called strategy.
AxionSteel
Profile Joined January 2011
United States7754 Posts
December 03 2011 05:35 GMT
#7819
Excellent waypoint there ThorZaiN.
Yang Wenli
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2283 Posts
December 03 2011 05:35 GMT
#7820
The Best micro Viking.
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