• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 06:58
CEST 12:58
KST 19:58
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Finals Preview: Sweet Victory!9[ASL22] Ro4 Preview: Mirror Mirror6[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: Within Reach5[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: In A Tizzy11[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Holy Diver5
Community News
Weekly Cups (October 12-18): 5.0.17 era begins0[$1250] International ShieldBattery League36Weekly Cups (October 5-11): Farewell to 5.0.164Rollback Netcode in Brood War1425.0.17 Patch Notes - October 7, 202624
StarCraft 2
General
No more SC2 streamers on team liquid? Weekly Cups (October 12-18): 5.0.17 era begins Server Blocker SCII needs to put more weight on strategy and tact Stellar Fest 2 Replay Pack
Tourneys
WORTEX Challenger Series — Open SC2 LAN in Budapes RSL goes to London! 2026 Offline Finals Nov 21-22 Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Stellar Fest TWO the Moon (Dec 16-20) Master Swan Open (Global Bronze-Master 2)
Strategy
[H] ZvP Mid-Late Game: Stalkers Collossi HT
Custom Maps
[G] How to playtest arcade maps [A] Nemrods 1/4 players [M] (2) Sweltering Sands [M] (2) Frigid Storage
External Content
Mutation # 548 Shining Bright The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 547 Temple Of Terror Mutation # 546 Catch the Train
Brood War
General
Do we even care about balance? Rollback Netcode in Brood War Mineral gathering rate (boosted) for each patch Bot on ladder BW General Discussion
Tourneys
[ASL22] Grand Finals [Women's StarCraft] Tier 8 CK 2026-10-20 [$1250] International ShieldBattery League [Megathread] Daily Proleagues
Strategy
Cliff Jump Revisited (1 in a 1000 strategy) Simple Questions, Simple Answers Replay Review Process - What do you do?
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Dawn of War IV Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne General RTS Discussion Thread
Dota 2
Dota 2 Champions League Season 3 Begins April 25!
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
The Chess Thread US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Artificial Intelligence Thread
Fan Clubs
Serral Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece
Sports
TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 MLB/Baseball 2023 Football (Soccer) Thread
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
How Much Genes Contribute to…
TrAiDoS
ShieldBattery on Mac
Kraekkling
[ASL22] Ro4 Day1 Ticket Giv…
bITt.mAN
38 yo Retired SWE loo…
PurE)Rabbit-SF
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 11110 users

[NASL] S2 Grand Finals Day 1 - Page 164

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 162 163 164 165 166 486 Next
Same drill as usual:
  • No caster bashing.
  • Excessive tournament bashing that detracts from game discussion will be met with moderator action. Criticism is welcome, whining is not.
  • In general do your best to stay on topic and discuss what we're all here for: the games.
Enjoy the games guys.
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42417 Posts
December 02 2011 23:00 GMT
#3261
On December 03 2011 07:59 Scrubwave wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2011 07:57 Tewks44 wrote:
if Hasu won last game "hasu just got a lucky build order win"
when HuK won last game "HuK just got a lucky build order win"

why can't we admit PvP takes at least some skill?

Because PvP is... a horror to watch.
[image loading]


That looks amazing. Why PvP isn't like that?
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
forgottendreams
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1771 Posts
December 02 2011 23:00 GMT
#3262
On December 03 2011 07:58 dani` wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2011 07:57 mememolly wrote:
so, what euros are braving it and staying up through the night?

Meh, probably going to sleep soon-ish & just watch the VODs in the morning with a coffee ^_^


I think there is a recast anyway for the Euros.
Tewks44
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2032 Posts
December 02 2011 23:00 GMT
#3263
On December 03 2011 07:58 crms wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2011 07:57 JBright wrote:
On December 03 2011 07:55 JohnnyBanana wrote:
On December 03 2011 07:54 Kieofire wrote:
On December 03 2011 07:53 crms wrote:
On December 03 2011 07:51 Doof wrote:
On December 03 2011 07:50 Paladia wrote:
[image loading]

Something feels different..

It's a weekday, early afternoon. There will be more people this weekend. Not a fair comparison.

Still kinda embarassing though :/



yeah it's still bad though... MLG starts on friday too and I've never seen a dead MLG.


Because MLG usually starts at 5pm when most people are off work and out of class/school.


MLG starts at 5:30pm EST for me on Friday.

It's 6pm EST Friday, and NASL crowd still looks fairly dead.


The last few MLGs have been on the east coast so 6pm EDT/EST is easy for people to get off work. NASL is held in Cali so it's only ~3pm over there right now.



so compare to MLG Anaheim? Didn't Anaheim start even earlier to maintain standard EST time and it was still packed..


No, MLG uses local time as a basis, not EST. Why would anyone ever hold a tournament so early? people would still be at school or work and the crowd would be completely dead.... oh, wait
"that is our ethos; free content, starcraft content, websites that work occasionally" -Sean "Day[9]" Plott
mememolly
Profile Joined December 2011
4765 Posts
December 02 2011 23:00 GMT
#3264
booth cams look really good tbh, the crowd seems to be growing and getting into it more, NASL really stepped up their game
flexgd
Profile Joined September 2011
183 Posts
December 02 2011 23:00 GMT
#3265
On December 03 2011 07:59 SteeJanS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2011 07:58 Doof wrote:
I wonder if Hasu would be the crowd favorite if this tournament were in Europe... Huk has the higher profile being in Code S and all, but Hasu has been solid for just as long as Huk


I'm conflicted myself, a WC3 player vs. a Canadian. I DON'T KNOW WHAT I WANT.


take the wc3 player...hasu is a way cooler guy anyways
Mithridates
Profile Joined June 2011
United States446 Posts
December 02 2011 23:00 GMT
#3266
On December 03 2011 07:58 Doof wrote:
I wonder if Hasu would be the crowd favorite if this tournament were in Europe... Huk has the higher profile being in Code S and all, but Hasu has been solid for just as long as Huk


What has Hasu won? Huk has dreamhack, MLG, code S, and HSC3. I cant think of any HAsuobs wins ooff the top of my head. 4th place TSL3??
Doof
Profile Joined October 2010
United States204 Posts
December 02 2011 23:00 GMT
#3267
On December 03 2011 07:59 flexgd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2011 07:57 Tewks44 wrote:
if Hasu won last game "hasu just got a lucky build order win"
when HuK won last game "HuK just got a lucky build order win"

why can't we admit PvP takes at least some skill?


because it doesnt

It takes micro perfection, and these days it takes some strategical thought as well. PvP is soooo much better than it used to be. Still, you can't afford mistakes in the early game.
Every day should be a good day to die
Serinox
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany5224 Posts
December 02 2011 23:00 GMT
#3268
Remember to write PvP on my list of fucked up match-ups in SC2 right behind ZvZ and TvP....sigh.

And btw I really hope they step-up the production similar to Season 1, because then the event will be awesome on the second half of Day 2.
Chaosvuistje
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands2581 Posts
December 02 2011 23:01 GMT
#3269
On December 03 2011 07:58 dani` wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2011 07:57 mememolly wrote:
so, what euros are braving it and staying up through the night?

Meh, probably going to sleep soon-ish & just watch the VODs in the morning with a coffee ^_^


You'll miss the GSL finals if you're watching vods though :o . Unless you want to watch the vods at like 5 am.
Bojas
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands2397 Posts
December 02 2011 23:01 GMT
#3270

On December 03 2011 07:58 Doof wrote:
I wonder if Hasu would be the crowd favorite if this tournament were in Europe... Huk has the higher profile being in Code S and all, but Hasu has been solid for just as long as Huk


I am rooting for Hasu so hard because of EGs trashtalk and american ignorance towards europe. I like Huk usually though. Still EU/mouz fighting!!
JohnnyBanana
Profile Joined September 2011
Canada493 Posts
December 02 2011 23:01 GMT
#3271
On December 03 2011 08:00 flexgd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2011 07:59 SteeJanS wrote:
On December 03 2011 07:58 Doof wrote:
I wonder if Hasu would be the crowd favorite if this tournament were in Europe... Huk has the higher profile being in Code S and all, but Hasu has been solid for just as long as Huk


I'm conflicted myself, a WC3 player vs. a Canadian. I DON'T KNOW WHAT I WANT.


take the wc3 player...hasu is a way cooler guy anyways

As a Canadian, I'm cheering for HasuObs. I really want someone from mouz to rape some nerds.
Lysanias
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands8351 Posts
December 02 2011 23:01 GMT
#3272
On December 03 2011 07:58 Daray wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2011 07:57 Lysanias wrote:
On December 03 2011 07:55 jmbthirteen wrote:

On December 03 2011 07:50 Paladia wrote:
[image loading]

Something feels different..


show me the crowd pic of DH on day 1. It was just as pathetic.


So this hall is going to get bigger ? more seats at day 2/3 ? Just wondering because i believe all is played at the same place unlike Dreamhack.


wtf is your problem? why do you post this and what do you have to gain from this... you should stop this EU vs US bs and just enjoy the games.


Keep your panties on, it's hard to see in the darkness so i wonder what it looks like, and ask it here ? No need to get all red headed, chill just asking
dani`
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands2402 Posts
December 02 2011 23:01 GMT
#3273
On December 03 2011 08:00 forgottendreams wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2011 07:58 dani` wrote:
On December 03 2011 07:57 mememolly wrote:
so, what euros are braving it and staying up through the night?

Meh, probably going to sleep soon-ish & just watch the VODs in the morning with a coffee ^_^


I think there is a recast anyway for the Euros.

I heard someone saying there won't be for the finals.

But even if there was I would watch VODs. Why would I waste time with the entire thing if I can just skip to the interesting stuff using VODs
nRoot
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany928 Posts
December 02 2011 23:01 GMT
#3274
On December 03 2011 07:58 SteeJanS wrote:
Just FYI it's team Mouz not team Mouse.

what??
http://www.mousesports.com/de/news/

mouse is fine

GO HASU
jmbthirteen
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States10734 Posts
December 02 2011 23:01 GMT
#3275
On December 03 2011 07:57 Lysanias wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2011 07:55 jmbthirteen wrote:

On December 03 2011 07:50 Paladia wrote:
[image loading]

Something feels different..


show me the crowd pic of DH on day 1. It was just as pathetic.


So this hall is going to get bigger ? more seats at day 2/3 ? Just wondering because i believe all is played at the same place unlike Dreamhack.

What? The small crowd has nothing to do with the hall, it has to do with it being a weekday and people have school and work at this time.

Seriously people, THINK. IPL had no one on days 1 and 2. Why? Because people have shit to do during the week. Ever see afternoon baseball game crowds? The stadiums are empty. Wait for Saturday and Sunday and then judge the crowd.
www.superbeerbrothers.com
Rammstorm
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany1434 Posts
December 02 2011 23:01 GMT
#3276
Damn obs blink , DT. , can this get more repetitive?
"MC" -> Master of Ceremonies xD
xXFireandIceXx
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada4296 Posts
December 02 2011 23:01 GMT
#3277
robo bay going up for Hasu. looks like G2
mataxp
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Chile538 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-02 23:02:00
December 02 2011 23:01 GMT
#3278
1 base colo? has pvp evolved at all?
Liquid.Hero Startale.Bomber MVP.Dongraegu
Tewks44
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2032 Posts
December 02 2011 23:02 GMT
#3279
On December 03 2011 08:01 Bojas wrote:

Show nested quote +
On December 03 2011 07:58 Doof wrote:
I wonder if Hasu would be the crowd favorite if this tournament were in Europe... Huk has the higher profile being in Code S and all, but Hasu has been solid for just as long as Huk


I am rooting for Hasu so hard because of EGs trashtalk and american ignorance towards europe. I like Huk usually though. Still EU/mouz fighting!!


How can you say Americans are ignorant of Europe. It's one of our most important states!
"that is our ethos; free content, starcraft content, websites that work occasionally" -Sean "Day[9]" Plott
ilikeredheads
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada1995 Posts
December 02 2011 23:02 GMT
#3280
NASL should just play a cheer track to offset that lack of live audience, like how sitcoms use laugh tracks.
Prev 1 162 163 164 165 166 486 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 2m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Lowko203
Classic 68
Rex 39
StarCraft: Brood War
Rain 2521
Bisu 960
Horang2 576
Soma 354
Larva 310
Hyuk 227
EffOrt 218
Killer 207
Mini 174
Snow 131
[ Show more ]
Light 124
Rush 118
Stork 107
Dewaltoss 98
Pusan 98
Hyun 96
ZerO 88
sorry 78
Barracks 71
Leta 66
Mind 66
Shinee 35
Bale 32
Shine 28
Sexy 27
Sacsri 20
Terrorterran 16
yabsab 14
Creator 12
Britney 0
Dota 2
XaKoH 403
XcaliburYe123
League of Legends
JimRising 344
Counter-Strike
kennyS1400
olofmeister1378
byalli751
allub377
x6flipin219
gobbtv33
Other Games
singsing1923
crisheroes235
Pyrionflax199
Sick185
dupreeh162
B2W.Neo122
RotterdaM77
ZerO(Twitch)14
Organizations
StarCraft: Brood War
lovetv 6
[ Show 12 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH289
• CranKy Ducklings SOOP3
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• WagamamaTV335
League of Legends
• Stunt531
Upcoming Events
IntoTheTV X SOOP
2m
herO vs Krystianer
Percival vs Solar
IntoTheiNu 152
WardiTV60
Rex39
CranKy Ducklings1
PiGosaur Cup
13h 2m
The PondCast
23h 2m
Kung Fu Cup
1d
IntoTheTV X SOOP
2 days
Reynor vs Zoun
Neeb vs Rogue
FEL
3 days
Patches Events
4 days
FEL
4 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
[ Show More ]
WardiTV Weekly
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

ASL Season 22
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
HCC Season 3

Ongoing

Acropolis #5
IPSL Winter 2026-27
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 4
Acropolis #5 - GSC
1win Private Club #2
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026

Upcoming

BSL Season 23
SC4ALL II: Brood War
BSL 23: Non-Korean Championship
HSC XXX
Stellar Fest 2: Lunar Cup
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
eXTREMESLAND 2026
PGL Major Singapore 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 6
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
IEM Beijing 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.