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MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
November 27 2011 01:29 GMT
#12521
On November 27 2011 10:22 GreyKnight wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2011 10:16 MrCon wrote:
DH system is good for the latest stage (bo5 semies, bo7 finals, how it should be everywhere)
DH system sucks for group stages, they should use the GSL system but with bo3s. With the current DH system, the 3rd game of a player can mean nothing, so a player can "throw games" (not in a match fixing way, but in a zero incentive to win so I'll 6 pool so I can go home fast way) which makes the order in which the games are played have an influence on the outcome of the group.
A system which gives players an incentive to lose can't be a good system.


yeah i dont like that groups stage where someone who already advanced has to play to determine seeding or someone else's advancement.

Yep; It's not that bad as most the of time the best players will advance anyway. I don't know if a perfect system exist, but each time those situations arise (like in the the naniwa-cloud-stephano-sheth group) it feels awkward.
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-27 01:31:58
November 27 2011 01:30 GMT
#12522
On November 27 2011 10:29 OrChard wrote:
Where can i find the vods or replays of final?

http://ko.twitch.tv/dreamhacktv2/b/301014486
From semies to the final. (the vod is 7 hours long and has 5 parts)
TheDougler
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada8324 Posts
November 27 2011 01:32 GMT
#12523
Wow, Liquid back to back Dreamhack champions, pretty sick. (Well, I guess Valencia was in between, but winter and summer are the more important ones imo).
I root for Euro Zergs, NA Protoss* and Korean Terrans. (Any North American who has beat a Korean Pro as Protoss counts as NA Toss)
AntiGrav1ty
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany2310 Posts
November 27 2011 01:33 GMT
#12524
Didnt see the games but big congratz to Hero! Liquid fighting!
www.twitch.tv/antigrav1ty
Lavi
Profile Joined November 2011
Bangladesh793 Posts
November 27 2011 01:34 GMT
#12525
On November 27 2011 10:28 Hierarch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2011 10:24 Lavi wrote:
On November 27 2011 10:00 ninjamyst wrote:
There's alot of hate for Puma because of his play style and his affiliation with EG. Does anyone think Puma wouldn't have played such all-ins if he wasn't on EG? I wonder how much a player's play style is determined by the team they are on.


Think its also the match up... between 111 and predictable bio ball for tvp, terran really doesn't got that many interesting option... one makes you a villain and the other is a bit dull and uninteresting unit composition imo, and I like terran generally but just not in that match up, of course not puma fault but I think its one of the factors : / Thats why I find it interesting when mvp goes for the heavy marine/tank pushes/contains which "feels more terran" to me but people seem to hate that too *shrug*



Jjakji had some really good builds vs puzzle that involved mech and air


Yeah I should check those out... I would love if terran could effectively go mech in tvp.
If you think about what apollo said about bio needing to smash the toss army down as they can reinforce quickly with warpgates is very true, so terran army should be more efficient and mech seems more proper then flimsy bio :p
Swiv
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany3674 Posts
November 27 2011 01:36 GMT
#12526
are there already official viewer numbers? how many people have viewed especially the bo7 grand final?
[_] Terran [_] Zerg [_] Protoss [X] Random ------- Fantasy - hyvaa - sOs
OrChard
Profile Joined February 2011
Hong Kong1119 Posts
November 27 2011 01:36 GMT
#12527
On November 27 2011 10:30 MrCon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2011 10:29 OrChard wrote:
Where can i find the vods or replays of final?

http://ko.twitch.tv/dreamhacktv2/b/301014486
From semies to the final. (the vod is 7 hours long and has 5 parts)

thank you so much :D
you make my day
Protosser
maartendq
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Belgium3115 Posts
November 27 2011 01:39 GMT
#12528
On November 27 2011 10:28 Swiv wrote:
Wow, it seems i missed a fantastic final. even though i know the result, i'll checkt out the vods of the finals tomorrow!

congratz Hero and TL !

You didn't, really. All games were rather one-sided. They weren't of the epic, nailbiting kind you'd expect at the finals of an event such as Dreamhack. The Bo7 was over in about an hour and a half. I was quite disappointed, to be honest. The skill level of the players was nowhere near that of MLG.
Thrill
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
2599 Posts
November 27 2011 01:40 GMT
#12529
On November 27 2011 10:16 MrCon wrote:
DH system is good for the latest stage (bo5 semies, bo7 finals, how it should be everywhere)
DH system sucks for group stages, they should use the GSL system but with bo3s. With the current DH system, the 3rd game of a player can mean nothing, so a player can "throw games" (not in a match fixing way, but in a zero incentive to win so I'll 6 pool so I can go home fast way) which makes the order in which the games are played have an influence on the outcome of the group.
A system which gives players an incentive to lose can't be a good system.


I absolutely agree. There's much room for improvement as far as DH tournament administration goes. As long as it follows the format used for Invitationals and Grand Finals it's fine, but the group stage matches that even spawned the dreaded three-way tie and coinflip situation should be looked after and corrected ASAP.
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
November 27 2011 01:40 GMT
#12530
I have to say that the couch discussion between the non casting casters between games was amazing...
This Dreamhack set the new quality standard again. We're lucky to have suck a good scene, MLG, GSL, DH, and all others are pretty good <3 So much ESPORTS :D
Dumboprime
Profile Joined March 2011
985 Posts
November 27 2011 01:42 GMT
#12531
extremely nice tournament thanks all
Swiv
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany3674 Posts
November 27 2011 01:44 GMT
#12532
On November 27 2011 10:40 MrCon wrote:
I have to say that the couch discussion between the non casting casters between games was amazing...
This Dreamhack set the new quality standard again. We're lucky to have suck a good scene, MLG, GSL, DH, and all others are pretty good <3 So much ESPORTS :D

aaaand next Homestory Cup waiting in january ! can't wait for that unique event
[_] Terran [_] Zerg [_] Protoss [X] Random ------- Fantasy - hyvaa - sOs
supdubdup
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States916 Posts
November 27 2011 01:45 GMT
#12533
is this team liquid's best sc2 tournament since jinro at mlg? ;o cool.
Turn it Up
Hierarch
Profile Joined February 2011
United States2197 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-27 01:46:22
November 27 2011 01:45 GMT
#12534
On November 27 2011 10:44 Swiv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2011 10:40 MrCon wrote:
I have to say that the couch discussion between the non casting casters between games was amazing...
This Dreamhack set the new quality standard again. We're lucky to have suck a good scene, MLG, GSL, DH, and all others are pretty good <3 So much ESPORTS :D

aaaand next Homestory Cup waiting in january ! can't wait for that unique event


HSC3 still my favorite event, so unique and laid back.
MC|NonY|HerO|NaDa|MVP|DRG|Ret|Sen|Dimaga|Leenock
Kubricks
Profile Joined November 2011
284 Posts
November 27 2011 01:47 GMT
#12535
Didn't have the time to see as much of the tournament as I would've liked but I really loved the production quality from what I saw.

Huge thanks to DreamHack for providing top-notch eSports!
Spuick
Profile Joined April 2011
Norway357 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-27 01:49:02
November 27 2011 01:48 GMT
#12536
On November 27 2011 10:45 supdubdup wrote:
is this team liquid's best sc2 tournament since jinro at mlg? ;o cool.


It's getting really late. I apologize. ~~
Zim23
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1681 Posts
November 27 2011 01:48 GMT
#12537
I fucking loved it! SO GOOD. I love HerO congraaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaats!!!!
Do an arranged marriage if she's not completely minging, and don't worry about dancing, get a go-kart, cheers.
Arcanne
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1519 Posts
November 27 2011 01:49 GMT
#12538
On November 27 2011 10:45 supdubdup wrote:
is this team liquid's best sc2 tournament since jinro at mlg? ;o cool.


huk at dreamhack hsc imo
Professional tech investor, part time DotA scrub | Follow @AllMeasures on Twitter
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
November 27 2011 01:51 GMT
#12539
On November 27 2011 10:45 Hierarch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2011 10:44 Swiv wrote:
On November 27 2011 10:40 MrCon wrote:
I have to say that the couch discussion between the non casting casters between games was amazing...
This Dreamhack set the new quality standard again. We're lucky to have suck a good scene, MLG, GSL, DH, and all others are pretty good <3 So much ESPORTS :D

aaaand next Homestory Cup waiting in january ! can't wait for that unique event


HSC3 still my favorite event, so unique and laid back.

Yeah I loved last HSC too. Especially because it's casted by pros and their insight is just unbelievable. You think you know a lot, then you know you know nothing after listening to them.
R1CH
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Netherlands10343 Posts
November 27 2011 01:53 GMT
#12540
Stayed up 26 hours to watch all this, so glad it was all worth it. I would have been so upset if HerO came so close to tasting victory only to lose the final game, glad things didn't turn out that way . Great tournament all around, despite a few technical issues everything seemed to run very smooth and on schedule.
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