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Please stop the tournament comparison discussion. Especially regarding players their runs (Stephano seems to be the current topic). Stay on topic and stick to the games. Consequences will be met out to further derailment.

In addition leave the usual out of this topic:

-Balance complaints
-Map complaints
-Stream complaints
-Caster/player bashing
-Off topic discussions

Logically continue this list with things that are obviously frowned
upon. Enjoy the free and wonderful event with loads of games and coverage!
Beardedclam
Profile Joined September 2010
United States839 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-26 00:02:12
November 26 2011 00:01 GMT
#5841
This bracket is pretty shitty lol.
"bye bye" - genius "#$@% you" - Idra------------|Genius|DRG|Keen|---------Breakfast.213
Usagi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Spain1647 Posts
November 26 2011 00:01 GMT
#5842
On November 26 2011 08:59 ZenithM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2011 08:57 nakor wrote:
On November 26 2011 08:56 Thalimunrah wrote:
On November 26 2011 08:53 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
On November 26 2011 08:49 sleepingdog wrote:
On November 26 2011 08:48 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
On November 26 2011 07:46 Fionn wrote:
On November 26 2011 07:39 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
On November 26 2011 07:38 Micket wrote:
Just saying, Terrans have often complained about 'imbalance' when match ups have gotten closer to 50%. So, seeing Terran tears is often a good sign! Having said that, foreigner Terrans sure never win anything. Really wonder why they can't do as well as the Koreans whilst the foreign P and Z can at least compete.

Because, maybe, unlike what every whining kid on the internet thinks, terran actually isn't the easiest race?

Shocking, I know.


But they have mules!

And we also have scan - my favorite argument is when people simultaneously complain about scan and mules without considering that if you scan you dont have a mule --


That's how P feels when T tells us that we can both chrono-boost probes to keep up with mules and chrono-boost double forge upgrades

When protoss players stop sitting with full energy nexii I will take this dilemma seriously.

Are you balance whining?


How does suggesting P players spend their chronoboost equate to balance whining :|


Implying that a race wins without using one of its core mechanics is generally a good start.


Again asuming that protoss players are worse than terran players, when maybe we should look at the mechanic of chronoboost and why it doesnt get used, maybe it is not the players.
Spaceneil8
Profile Joined February 2011
United States317 Posts
November 26 2011 00:02 GMT
#5843
On November 26 2011 08:59 Dexington wrote:
Oh yes DRG vs Naniwa! Can't wait to see Naniwa get his ass handed to him.

Also, surprisingly few PvP's for a random draw.

Like at Providence right? Oh wait.

So many team kills in the Ro16 tt.
ninjamyst
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1903 Posts
November 26 2011 00:02 GMT
#5844
HerO getting the short stick again...going against Sheth and then Huk and then Ret. *sigh*
skrotcyk
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden432 Posts
November 26 2011 00:02 GMT
#5845
On November 26 2011 09:00 Packawana wrote:
Naniwa/DRG and Genius/PuMa?

Really Dreamhack? Are you just trying to weed out Koreans at this point?


Random drawings is the most fair way to do it, stop complain..
nihlon
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden5581 Posts
November 26 2011 00:03 GMT
#5846
On November 26 2011 09:00 Packawana wrote:
Naniwa/DRG and Genius/PuMa?

Really Dreamhack? Are you just trying to weed out Koreans at this point?


Dreamhack don't have control over chance.
Banelings are too cute to blow up
AIOL!
Profile Joined January 2011
France962 Posts
November 26 2011 00:03 GMT
#5847
Mana vs Nerchio is a final, not a Ro16 ='(
Stephano!!!!!!/Nerchio/Mana/Hasuobs/Grubby/Kas/Tarson/Sarens/Goody/BeastyCury
Pipeline
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden1673 Posts
November 26 2011 00:03 GMT
#5848
On November 26 2011 08:58 V1ctor wrote:
Brackets are up! DRG vs Naniwa rematch!! Hell yeah!


Nooooo.

So sad to see Naniwa and DRG face each other in the first round. I feel the same for Sheth and Hero :<
Shurayuki
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany2665 Posts
November 26 2011 00:03 GMT
#5849
On November 26 2011 09:01 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2011 08:56 Thalimunrah wrote:
On November 26 2011 08:53 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
On November 26 2011 08:49 sleepingdog wrote:
On November 26 2011 08:48 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
On November 26 2011 07:46 Fionn wrote:
On November 26 2011 07:39 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
On November 26 2011 07:38 Micket wrote:
Just saying, Terrans have often complained about 'imbalance' when match ups have gotten closer to 50%. So, seeing Terran tears is often a good sign! Having said that, foreigner Terrans sure never win anything. Really wonder why they can't do as well as the Koreans whilst the foreign P and Z can at least compete.

Because, maybe, unlike what every whining kid on the internet thinks, terran actually isn't the easiest race?

Shocking, I know.


But they have mules!

And we also have scan - my favorite argument is when people simultaneously complain about scan and mules without considering that if you scan you dont have a mule --


That's how P feels when T tells us that we can both chrono-boost probes to keep up with mules and chrono-boost double forge upgrades

When protoss players stop sitting with full energy nexii I will take this dilemma seriously.

Are you balance whining?

No, Im trolling lol


As long as you keep the Frozen Arbiter everything will be forgiven, forever.

As for the brackets, if we don't get great games out of those pair-ups, then we're screwed
なまいきになんなよ~ Don't be too stakka~ ☆ SKT Harlequin ☆ n.Die_soO Hoppin You ♪ 愛 am BeSt ♪ ワイフ♥小早川りんこ
Beardedclam
Profile Joined September 2010
United States839 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-26 00:04:28
November 26 2011 00:03 GMT
#5850
Man, all of ColMVP is in one part of the bracket.
"bye bye" - genius "#$@% you" - Idra------------|Genius|DRG|Keen|---------Breakfast.213
Jiddra
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden2685 Posts
November 26 2011 00:04 GMT
#5851
On November 26 2011 09:02 skrotcyk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2011 09:00 Packawana wrote:
Naniwa/DRG and Genius/PuMa?

Really Dreamhack? Are you just trying to weed out Koreans at this point?


Random drawings is the most fair way to do it, stop complain..


however, they were done offline
I am not young enough to know everything.
Beardedclam
Profile Joined September 2010
United States839 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-26 00:04:10
November 26 2011 00:04 GMT
#5852
edit
"bye bye" - genius "#$@% you" - Idra------------|Genius|DRG|Keen|---------Breakfast.213
Tonttu
Profile Joined August 2010
Finland606 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-26 00:04:20
November 26 2011 00:04 GMT
#5853
On November 26 2011 09:03 AIOL! wrote:
Mana vs Nerchio is a final, not a Ro16 ='(


Naama vs Mana is the finals.
Naama, the #1 Conductor! | Slayers, Fnatic and Mouz | Naama, MMA and ForGG |
Thurken
Profile Joined September 2011
961 Posts
November 26 2011 00:04 GMT
#5854
And Nani vs DRG and Genius vs Puma broadcasted at the same time oO (that and 3 out of these players will be out in the ro4...
andytb
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom180 Posts
November 26 2011 00:04 GMT
#5855
The bracket was names from a hat

There is no bias other than that the world decides
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
November 26 2011 00:04 GMT
#5856
On November 26 2011 09:01 KiLL_ORdeR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2011 08:53 SpatzeleKing wrote:
Don't missunderstand me...
I'm a protoss, I love protoss, I hope for a protoss win at every match, and I'm often sad to see few protoss player in the final rounds of some tournaments.
But THAT !! 10 protosses vs 2 terrans and 4 zergs, that will kill the entertainment. PvP is considered to be the less interesting matchup, and tomorrow we will see sooo many PvPs


i disagree. Between the 3 mirror matchups, PvP is the shortest, most action packed and contains just as much, if not more high level decision making. I'd much rather see a bunch of PvP's than TvTs or ZvZs. Additionally, the 4 zergs and 2 terrans left are all amazing. Puma, DRG, Ret, and Nerchio all plowed through their groups and are playing at such a high level it's almost incomprehensible. Sheth is also playing at a very high level, as seen in his group matches today, and Naama is not too shabby either. What makes you think they won't all advance past the Ro16?


Plus, european TvT is just awfully bad and boring. ZvZ would be as fine as PvP I guess, but let us just be glad that it's not mass TvT :D
Khazroul
Profile Joined May 2011
United Kingdom206 Posts
November 26 2011 00:04 GMT
#5857
Haha am I right in saying there is a protoss in every single game opening tomorrow? So zero ZvT ZvZ or TvT? ^^
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
November 26 2011 00:04 GMT
#5858
On November 26 2011 08:57 andytb wrote:
Tried to live stream the draw but mobile twitch kept dropping, matches are

10:00
White ra vs Naama
Nightend vs sase

11:00
Drg vs Naniwa
Puma vs genius

12:00
Seiplo vs HuK
Sheth vs hero

13:00
Nerchio vs mana
Ret vs ToD

Tytyty now to bed!

Edit here's the vod up to when it dropped http://www.twitch.tv/andytb87/b/300945104


Yikes. Brutal for everyone.
Grend
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
1600 Posts
November 26 2011 00:04 GMT
#5859
Looking at the matches I think nani has a shot at it.
Huk, a korean or some random toss whos good at pvp if none of those.
♞ Against the Wind - Bob Seger ♞
ninjamyst
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1903 Posts
November 26 2011 00:05 GMT
#5860
On November 26 2011 09:01 Jiddra wrote:
The drawes this dreamhack has been crazy! EG group kill, now tl and col teamkill.


EG first group kill benefited them very well long term.
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