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Please stop the tournament comparison discussion. Especially regarding players their runs (Stephano seems to be the current topic). Stay on topic and stick to the games. Consequences will be met out to further derailment.

In addition leave the usual out of this topic:

-Balance complaints
-Map complaints
-Stream complaints
-Caster/player bashing
-Off topic discussions

Logically continue this list with things that are obviously frowned
upon. Enjoy the free and wonderful event with loads of games and coverage!
F-Decoy
Profile Joined June 2011
France245 Posts
November 26 2011 00:05 GMT
#5861
Nerchio - DRG final, remember that.
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-26 00:08:52
November 26 2011 00:05 GMT
#5862
On November 26 2011 08:57 Shurayuki wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2011 08:54 Rebs wrote:
On November 26 2011 08:48 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
On November 26 2011 07:46 Fionn wrote:
On November 26 2011 07:39 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
On November 26 2011 07:38 Micket wrote:
Just saying, Terrans have often complained about 'imbalance' when match ups have gotten closer to 50%. So, seeing Terran tears is often a good sign! Having said that, foreigner Terrans sure never win anything. Really wonder why they can't do as well as the Koreans whilst the foreign P and Z can at least compete.

Because, maybe, unlike what every whining kid on the internet thinks, terran actually isn't the easiest race?

Shocking, I know.


But they have mules!

And we also have scan - my favorite argument is when people simultaneously complain about scan and mules without considering that if you scan you dont have a mule --


Its a lack of understanding of how the game works at a high level, because the GSL has high level terrans, terran is op. Nothing you can do about it.

I feel like this game illustrated how much worse ghosts are now against a templar based protoss. , its a difficult mechanic to balance unfortunately (no im not saying its ghosts are useless either they obviously still work). I think some top tier korean mutlitask in the situation Happy was in is really the only way to break Tod. But I can see why he was unwilling to shear anything away from his main army.


The thing is the matchups don't have to be 50:50 for SC2 to be "balanced".
If terran is at a slight disadvantage that doesn't mean that blizzard _has_ to patch the game asap if it gets equaled out. there is no 50:50 matchup in BW.

Show nested quote +
On November 26 2011 08:55 AIOL! wrote:
On November 26 2011 08:51 Jacobs Ladder wrote:
So glad to see Kas knocked out! Never liked him.

Hero to win it all!!!



This thread needs moderation =(


Mods fell asleep, blame Happy and Tod.


No they dont and thats what im illustrating, itll probably lead to a meta shift that avoids terrans playing macro games. The only problem is the protoss arsenal of early game aggression/cheese (I feel) has always been more varied so itll be interesting to see how players try to deal with it.

I mean if anyone saw the Kas Mana game I cant think of anything Kas couldve done better to win it. Having to play reactively isnt an ideal situation to be in for terran. They cant warp in and they dont have swarm style production. O wait they have mules.

but yes the terran lineup at the event wasnt exactly stellar so its no surprise. The protoss in the last 16 are just better players.
Jiddra
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden2685 Posts
November 26 2011 00:05 GMT
#5863
On November 26 2011 09:04 andytb wrote:
The bracket was names from a hat

There is no bias other than that the world decides


What kind of hat?
I am not young enough to know everything.
nakor
Profile Joined February 2009
Canada19 Posts
November 26 2011 00:06 GMT
#5864
On November 26 2011 09:04 Grend wrote:
Looking at the matches I think nani has a shot at it.
Huk, a korean or some random toss whos good at pvp if none of those.


I think HuK has easier path to the finals. NaNi has to go through 2 koreans no matter what.
Valar Morghulis
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
November 26 2011 00:06 GMT
#5865
On November 26 2011 09:05 Jiddra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2011 09:04 andytb wrote:
The bracket was names from a hat

There is no bias other than that the world decides


What kind of hat?


Too bad no top hat. :/
Flanq
Profile Joined July 2011
United Kingdom2694 Posts
November 26 2011 00:06 GMT
#5866
Does anyone know what time day 3 starts? I know i could probably look and find it somewhere but im too tired.
Grend
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
1600 Posts
November 26 2011 00:07 GMT
#5867
Lol just realized that r16, may contain only one p if all p lose thir matches :-)
♞ Against the Wind - Bob Seger ♞
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-26 00:08:14
November 26 2011 00:07 GMT
#5868
Having a PvP-only Ro8 would be the strangest thing I've ever seen, and it's not even completely unlikely.
kratos-23
Profile Joined March 2011
303 Posts
November 26 2011 00:07 GMT
#5869
dont't like the bracket at all
Shurayuki
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany2665 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-26 00:08:48
November 26 2011 00:07 GMT
#5870
On November 26 2011 09:06 StarStruck wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2011 09:05 Jiddra wrote:
On November 26 2011 09:04 andytb wrote:
The bracket was names from a hat

There is no bias other than that the world decides


What kind of hat?


Too bad no top hat. :/


but TB was there, why didn't he bring his top hat?! this is rigged i tell ye, r i g g e d

On November 26 2011 09:07 Grend wrote:
Lol just realized that r16, may contain only one p if all p lose thir matches :-)


no way we already established P is absolutely OP at this point of the metagame
なまいきになんなよ~ Don't be too stakka~ ☆ SKT Harlequin ☆ n.Die_soO Hoppin You ♪ 愛 am BeSt ♪ ワイフ♥小早川りんこ
Benjef
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United Kingdom6921 Posts
November 26 2011 00:08 GMT
#5871
Lots of Protoss in the top 16 no more Sad Zealot :D:D:D.

Both halves of the brackets are fairly stacked, can't really predict how its gonna go but rooting for Nani and Sase regardless!
<3 | Dota 2 | DayZ | <3
AzraeL-
Profile Joined August 2011
United Kingdom66 Posts
November 26 2011 00:08 GMT
#5872
Lol Puma could have protoss all the way to the finals, gonna have a field day.
nakor
Profile Joined February 2009
Canada19 Posts
November 26 2011 00:08 GMT
#5873
On November 26 2011 09:07 StarVe wrote:
A PvP-only Ro8 would be the strangest thing I've ever seen, and it's not that unlikely.

If ToD beats Ret I'm going to throw myselff off the nearest roof.
Valar Morghulis
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
November 26 2011 00:08 GMT
#5874
On November 26 2011 09:06 nakor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2011 09:04 Grend wrote:
Looking at the matches I think nani has a shot at it.
Huk, a korean or some random toss whos good at pvp if none of those.


I think HuK has easier path to the finals. NaNi has to go through 2 koreans no matter what.


He is looking at a possibility of PvPing his way to the finals. Coin flipping. Weeeeee ._.
Taktik
Profile Joined January 2011
Poland680 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-26 00:09:28
November 26 2011 00:08 GMT
#5875
On November 26 2011 08:57 andytb wrote:
Tried to live stream the draw but mobile twitch kept dropping, matches are

10:00
White ra vs Naama
Nightend vs sase

11:00
Drg vs Naniwa
Puma vs genius

12:00
Seiplo vs HuK
Sheth vs hero

13:00
Nerchio vs mana
Ret vs ToD

Tytyty now to bed!

Edit here's the vod up to when it dropped http://www.twitch.tv/andytb87/b/300945104


Why so early in the morning !? GRRRRR I will be in work till 14 ;<<<
Zyklon
Profile Joined January 2011
Poland6 Posts
November 26 2011 00:09 GMT
#5876
big shit >.<
nihlon
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden5581 Posts
November 26 2011 00:09 GMT
#5877
On November 26 2011 09:06 Flanq wrote:
Does anyone know what time day 3 starts? I know i could probably look and find it somewhere but im too tired.

In about 9 hours. 10 cet.
Banelings are too cute to blow up
gullberg
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Sweden1301 Posts
November 26 2011 00:09 GMT
#5878
On November 26 2011 09:08 nakor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2011 09:07 StarVe wrote:
A PvP-only Ro8 would be the strangest thing I've ever seen, and it's not that unlikely.

If ToD beats Ret I'm going to throw myselff off the nearest roof.

rofl that's actually very possible you know... ToD had some sick PvZ vs sheth earlier today.
Shurayuki
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany2665 Posts
November 26 2011 00:09 GMT
#5879
On November 26 2011 09:08 nakor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2011 09:07 StarVe wrote:
A PvP-only Ro8 would be the strangest thing I've ever seen, and it's not that unlikely.

If ToD beats Ret I'm going to throw myselff off the nearest roof.


eh TL is very good at holding people to their posts you should be more careful ♥
なまいきになんなよ~ Don't be too stakka~ ☆ SKT Harlequin ☆ n.Die_soO Hoppin You ♪ 愛 am BeSt ♪ ワイフ♥小早川りんこ
Grend
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
1600 Posts
November 26 2011 00:09 GMT
#5880
On November 26 2011 09:06 nakor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2011 09:04 Grend wrote:
Looking at the matches I think nani has a shot at it.
Huk, a korean or some random toss whos good at pvp if none of those.


I think HuK has easier path to the finals. NaNi has to go through 2 koreans no matter what.

True but I think Nani has good odds beating these koreans.
Huk has played a bit sloppy lately with micro mistakes as well as bad decisions. (choices for expansions in those pvt matches today nearly lost him his 36 spot)
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