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Here we go again. This weekend is about good games and good fun. Don't rain on that parade. Play nice guys. Here's the very standard and friendly:

- NO Balance Whine.
- NO Player Bashing.
- NO Caster Bashing.
- NO BM whatsoever.

Breaking these rules (from pg 166 forward) will be met with severe punishment.
taldarimAltar
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
973 Posts
November 21 2011 01:56 GMT
#16061
On November 21 2011 10:55 raf3776 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2011 10:55 Teim wrote:
You can't go into a potential Bo7 with only one build. It's that simple.

apparently leenock can

nani does it first...
FireSA
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia555 Posts
November 21 2011 01:56 GMT
#16062
The better player came second. Ah well, Naniwa tilting in refusing to do something like DT rush or just 3gate or 1gate robo.
bearhug
Profile Joined September 2010
United States999 Posts
November 21 2011 01:56 GMT
#16063
On November 21 2011 10:55 Mozdk wrote:
Has leenock studied his replays and found a whole in his placement?


Leenock just need to watch Naniwa's previous games vs Neatea. Naniwa's build can be hard countered easily because he did the same every time.
We are dusts in the vast cosmic arena. Need to make the most out of life when we still have it.
Sreka
Profile Joined May 2011
France114 Posts
November 21 2011 01:56 GMT
#16064
leenock has no units, could be dangerous
Noktix
Profile Joined May 2011
United States492 Posts
November 21 2011 01:56 GMT
#16065
On November 21 2011 10:55 raf3776 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2011 10:55 Teim wrote:
You can't go into a potential Bo7 with only one build. It's that simple.

apparently leenock can


Except he didn't. He reacted to Nani's builds. Unless you think 7 pool and 14 pool are the same.
Lavi
Profile Joined November 2011
Bangladesh793 Posts
November 21 2011 01:56 GMT
#16066
Seems like nani has some mental block when he faces FXO zergs >_< i blame lucky
FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
November 21 2011 01:56 GMT
#16067
okay he doesn't even care anymore. Boring finals, and the people screaming Leenock are at fault in the audience! demotivated Naniwa =( . Hope he can come back, want a protoss to win
MVTaylor
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2893 Posts
November 21 2011 01:56 GMT
#16068
On November 21 2011 10:56 HydraLF wrote:
Is it code S spot for Naniwa?


Yeah lol, i think every opponent he's facing might learn how to beat FFE hahah
@followMVT
Ownos
Profile Joined July 2010
United States2147 Posts
November 21 2011 01:56 GMT
#16069
This is TSL all over again.
...deeper and deeper into the bowels of El Diablo
Senorcuidado
Profile Joined May 2010
United States700 Posts
November 21 2011 01:56 GMT
#16070
On November 21 2011 10:55 luck_star21 wrote:
at least naniwas not idraing out


true that. idra really frustrated me this weekend. naniwa has been fighting his way out of some bad situations, so i wouldn't write him off.
GreyKnight
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4720 Posts
November 21 2011 01:56 GMT
#16071
On November 21 2011 10:55 Hamdemon wrote:
Roach Rush > FFE. Looks like Leenock has Nani figured out, from what I noticed he FFEd in like every game he played, which makes sense because I noticed in the games he lost in GSL it was because he was down bases so that was probably what he did to make up for it. Naniwa can't macro at a korean level yet, and I really hope that changes because if not I'm worried he'll continue to be one-and-done in the GSL.


it's not macro, i think he goes FFE to do a sharp 2 base timing because it's a really strong build by him
bittman
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia8759 Posts
November 21 2011 01:56 GMT
#16072
On November 21 2011 10:55 Sabu113 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2011 10:53 StarStruck wrote:
On November 21 2011 10:52 Skullflower wrote:
On November 21 2011 10:51 StarStruck wrote:
On November 21 2011 10:49 Witten wrote:
On November 21 2011 10:48 PinaryB wrote:
On November 21 2011 10:48 Bagration wrote:
FXO zergs are so cheesy. Lucky and Leenock do almost nothing but all ins. I just do not see why so many people are cheering for him. Because he is 16?

he beat mvp in a macro game, should be enoghh


This is the cheesiest I've ever seen Leenock play. Please watch other Leenock games before assuming roach rush when you only see 1 series. He played standard versus DRG and in all his Code S games this season.

Also he beat Nada with a 6pool.



Yup he's playing the PLAYER!

He has a good handle on Nani. Nani HAS to switch it up or else this is ALLLLL OVER!


Naniwa is like the Protoss Idra where he's super predictable. Leenock is just punishing that fact and it's clearly paying off.



YUP, about to be all she WROTE! BOOM!


Ok geniuses. What opening is better? 1-3gate expo? We saw how that got crushed for Huk. Problem is the mappool. The map pool was originally designed to advance zergs. After the tweak the open nats weren't also taken into account.

blargh. GSLesque final.


Cheese back for once? Do a 3 gate expo for once, sure it is probably relatively "worse" than a FFE, but it holds this better. A few more canons preemptively? Etc
Mvp - Leenock - Dongraegu - MC - Gumiho - Keen - Polt - Squirtle - Jjakji - Genius - Seed - Life - sC - Dream || LG-IM - MVP - FXO
Kahmoon
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden135 Posts
November 21 2011 01:56 GMT
#16073
Naniwa keeps going FFE on maps you can't really FFE safely on. (I think? Dual Sight & XNC) Leenock is showing boring games, but you can't blame him for doing what he knows will work. For the same reason you can't really blame all the protosses who did 6-8 allins against zergs trying to go mutas. In fact, I think it's a mistake not punishing builds like this. FFE with pylon and cannons so you can't hatch first, and can't get an early third leaves zerg behind. Mutas on three base against robo builds leaves protoss behind. If you have a build that can win against what your opponent is doing, why would you do a build that puts you behind? Sucks that the games of the finals are kind of boring though.
Merciless and/or cool glasses!, the players I love: DRG, MC, Leenock, MVP, Polt, Huk, Fin!
TheResidentEvil
Profile Joined September 2010
United States991 Posts
November 21 2011 01:56 GMT
#16074
this game cant be won by naniwa
Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
November 21 2011 01:56 GMT
#16075
Naniwa had nothing planned for this final. He did the same build over...and over...and over...and he kept getting punished. It's his own fault for getting punched in the mouth. First time? Okay. Second time? Oops. Third time? Yeah, you deserve to get popped in the mouth if you leave yourself wide open.
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Maenander
Profile Joined November 2002
Germany4927 Posts
November 21 2011 01:56 GMT
#16076
On November 21 2011 10:55 Onox wrote:
Pretty disappointing play from Naniwa when it actually matters

It actually mattered every game, 2nd place is still 25000$
Dragar
Profile Joined October 2010
United Kingdom971 Posts
November 21 2011 01:56 GMT
#16077
The other thing to understand is that possible builds go a long way to balancing the actual builds used in play.

A big reason Terran all-ins are so powerful because there are so many of them, not because any one is inherently very powerful.

FFE is a lot more powerful when its not the only game in town. Naniwa is shooting himself in the foot by opening like this every game, even on maps like XN, that are notoriously hard to hold a FFE on.
mikedebo
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada4341 Posts
November 21 2011 01:56 GMT
#16078
ARGH STREAMDEATH!!
I NEED A PHOTOSYNTHESIS! ||| 'airtoss' is an anagram of 'artosis' ||| SANGHOOOOOO ||| "No Korea? No problem. I have internet." -- Stardust
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
November 21 2011 01:56 GMT
#16079
On November 21 2011 10:56 Krallman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2011 10:55 Wipples wrote:
On November 21 2011 10:54 GreyKnight wrote:
Also getting mind gamed by a 15 year old?

kinda sad.

No its not, Leenock is the korean boy genius.

Also, yay go Leenock!


He's getting cheesed, not mindgamed

If you lose to the same cheese/build/rush 2 games in a row that shows more about the loser than the rusher.
GARO
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States2255 Posts
November 21 2011 01:56 GMT
#16080
On November 21 2011 10:56 Krallman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2011 10:55 Wipples wrote:
On November 21 2011 10:54 GreyKnight wrote:
Also getting mind gamed by a 15 year old?

kinda sad.

No its not, Leenock is the korean boy genius.

Also, yay go Leenock!


He's getting cheesed, not mindgamed

Apparently fucking up your FFE and getting punished for it isn't fair!
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