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No player/caster bashing, or balance whining. Bans will be handed out like candy. (page 217)

No sexist jokes or anything of that nature either. Be mature people.
Femari
Profile Joined June 2011
United States2900 Posts
November 19 2011 05:59 GMT
#8841
On November 19 2011 14:58 Hierarch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2011 14:55 pdd wrote:
On November 19 2011 14:54 Hierarch wrote:
On November 19 2011 14:52 GreenAndOrangeTurtle wrote:
On November 19 2011 14:49 Fionn wrote:
What's with Slayers having such shit TvP?

Ryung, MMA, and Ganzi are all terrible at it.


So is MVP. It just seams like a lot of top Terrans are bad at TvP


I would guarantee that it mostly has to do with the lack of protoss in the GSL, when you only have to worry about 4 or so protoss the matchup can hit the shelf for most of the tournament

MVP's TvP was suspect even when Protosses were a plenty in the GSL. That's one of the reasons he fell to Code A. Losing to Alicia and then Genius. (and even Squirtle in the GSTL1 finals the last time)


He also absolutely smashed HuK when he had to, his TvP is undoubtedly his worst matchup, but the reason I said what I said was because Korean players focus more so on other matchups, while there are so many terrans that the few protoss always are working on their PvT.

Yeah it's true they focus on other matchups more but I think the smashing HuK thing is cause he only had to practice for HuK and when Mvp has prep and only has to focus on that one person he just tends to wreck everyone.
Mvp | BoxeR | MarineKing | MC | viOlet | Scarlett | Flash | Bisu | XellOs | Sea | Fantasy | By.Sun
OrChard
Profile Joined February 2011
Hong Kong1119 Posts
November 19 2011 05:59 GMT
#8842
Oz
Protosser
maxmap
Profile Joined October 2011
Korea (South)11 Posts
November 19 2011 06:00 GMT
#8843
I think why top terran players have bad TvP is there are few top protoss players to practice with in their team
KazeHydra
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Japan2788 Posts
November 19 2011 06:00 GMT
#8844
On November 19 2011 14:58 RPR_Tempest wrote:
"vile.Spanishiwa wins 2-0 over FnaticKawaiiRice in OWR4."

:/

noooooo Kawaii ;_;
"Because I know this promise that won’t disappear will turn even a cause of tears into strength. You taught me that if I can believe, there is nothing that cannot come true." - Nana Mizuki (Yakusoku) 17:36 ils kaze got me into nana 17:36 ils by his blog
Yaki
Profile Joined April 2011
France4234 Posts
November 19 2011 06:00 GMT
#8845
just woke up pretty incredible by naniwa. beat the 2 best players in the world.
MC ■ MarineKing ■ LosirA ■ To someone who has lost after trying his best, no words from the winner can console him.
McKTenor13
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1383 Posts
November 19 2011 06:01 GMT
#8846
If I could give any constructive criticism to these casters I'd say the guy from beta 1 talks too little and the guy from beta 2 talks too much. Either way I'm glad I have the pass so I can watch these games!
If you can chill. chill. - Liquid'Tyler
fatworthlessvirgin
Profile Joined November 2011
United States34 Posts
November 19 2011 06:01 GMT
#8847
On November 19 2011 14:49 Femari wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2011 14:49 Fionn wrote:
What's with Slayers having such shit TvP?

Ryung, MMA, and Ganzi are all terrible at it.

That's why I'm confused. Puzzle doesn't give good enough practice?


I don't think you guys realize that it is really tough on Terran to play Toss in a macro/late game. It's not like these games should be walkovers. During the 1/1/1 period they did just fine, now they will just need to adjust their playstyles. Hell, even immvp had a rough time today vs toss.
I am literal scum.
spidercrumbs
Profile Joined September 2011
United States23 Posts
November 19 2011 06:01 GMT
#8848
On November 19 2011 15:00 KazeHydra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2011 14:58 RPR_Tempest wrote:
"vile.Spanishiwa wins 2-0 over FnaticKawaiiRice in OWR4."

:/

noooooo Kawaii ;_;



: ]]]]]
DiuLaSing
Profile Joined August 2011
Hong Kong225 Posts
November 19 2011 06:01 GMT
#8849
hero 1- 0 Jinro sad team kill
"You just abuse idiocy" - bad boy
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
November 19 2011 06:01 GMT
#8850
lol@live report thread spoiling results. put the 3rd game in there too even if isn't played.
poorcloud
Profile Joined April 2011
Singapore2748 Posts
November 19 2011 06:01 GMT
#8851
On November 19 2011 14:58 Nick.TNA wrote:
Holy cow Catz is so behind... I feel like he played so defensive because he was intimidated by nestea

He wasn't being defensive, he went for 1 base infestor that got scouted and he lost the game from there.
mango_destroyer
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada3914 Posts
November 19 2011 06:01 GMT
#8852
lol jinros drop...........
skatbone
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1005 Posts
November 19 2011 06:02 GMT
#8853
Ah, I love the phoenix play. Hero is looking good.
Mercurial#1193
Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
November 19 2011 06:02 GMT
#8854
lolganzi
Writerhttps://twitter.com/FionnOnFire
Lavi
Profile Joined November 2011
Bangladesh793 Posts
November 19 2011 06:02 GMT
#8855
hero is way too good
_Depression
Profile Joined October 2011
United States251 Posts
November 19 2011 06:02 GMT
#8856
Just noticed Tyler and Puzzle are in the same loser's bracket. Sadface
Severian
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia2052 Posts
November 19 2011 06:02 GMT
#8857
On November 19 2011 15:01 fatworthlessvirgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2011 14:49 Femari wrote:
On November 19 2011 14:49 Fionn wrote:
What's with Slayers having such shit TvP?

Ryung, MMA, and Ganzi are all terrible at it.

That's why I'm confused. Puzzle doesn't give good enough practice?


I don't think you guys realize that it is really tough on Terran to play Toss in a macro/late game. It's not like these games should be walkovers. During the 1/1/1 period they did just fine, now they will just need to adjust their playstyles. Hell, even immvp had a rough time today vs toss.

The game is hard for every race.
Hierarch
Profile Joined February 2011
United States2197 Posts
November 19 2011 06:02 GMT
#8858
On November 19 2011 14:59 Femari wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2011 14:58 Hierarch wrote:
On November 19 2011 14:55 pdd wrote:
On November 19 2011 14:54 Hierarch wrote:
On November 19 2011 14:52 GreenAndOrangeTurtle wrote:
On November 19 2011 14:49 Fionn wrote:
What's with Slayers having such shit TvP?

Ryung, MMA, and Ganzi are all terrible at it.


So is MVP. It just seams like a lot of top Terrans are bad at TvP


I would guarantee that it mostly has to do with the lack of protoss in the GSL, when you only have to worry about 4 or so protoss the matchup can hit the shelf for most of the tournament

MVP's TvP was suspect even when Protosses were a plenty in the GSL. That's one of the reasons he fell to Code A. Losing to Alicia and then Genius. (and even Squirtle in the GSTL1 finals the last time)


He also absolutely smashed HuK when he had to, his TvP is undoubtedly his worst matchup, but the reason I said what I said was because Korean players focus more so on other matchups, while there are so many terrans that the few protoss always are working on their PvT.

Yeah it's true they focus on other matchups more but I think the smashing HuK thing is cause he only had to practice for HuK and when Mvp has prep and only has to focus on that one person he just tends to wreck everyone.


That's what I mean, when he knows 100% what he's up against he puts in the work, but I'm sure his TvT and TvZ get a lot more focus in practice than his TvP does. I'm just guessing, but that's my best guess for why korean terrans TvP is so far below their other matchups.

Jinro looking to be crumbling to the phoenix harass, and that drop was maybe a bit ill advised
MC|NonY|HerO|NaDa|MVP|DRG|Ret|Sen|Dimaga|Leenock
Zalithian
Profile Joined June 2011
520 Posts
November 19 2011 06:03 GMT
#8859
Ganzi down to gatored. What the.
TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10011 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-19 06:04:25
November 19 2011 06:03 GMT
#8860
On November 19 2011 14:55 skatbone wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2011 14:50 Dauntless wrote:
This Tumba guy is so bad at observing. He can't be watching the minimap at all.
HerO vs Jinro.
Jinro is dropping and doing another attack, HerO is doing a drop. Tumba decides to watch Archons standing at the Xel'naga tower.

Constructive critisism above btw, not bashing.


Yea, I've noticed him missing action on the minimap as well. That said, it seems to happen to our other casters as well.


happens to 95% of casters and it annoys the shit out of me, altho its extremely entertaining whenever an obs realizes he missed something, they usually freak out and spazz their mouse uncontrollably around the map

aaah nothing like being a stereotypical douchebag, now i know y ppl flame players on the lr thread.. making fun of ppl is actually fun : [
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