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NASL.tv
Profile Joined April 2011
699 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-18 03:55:48
November 17 2011 20:12 GMT
#1
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Day 2
Watch us Live!


Friday, Nov 18 1:00am GMT (GMT+00:00)
EU: Friday, Nov 18 5:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00)




Loser's Bracket Rd 1




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[image loading] (Z)Stephano < TPW Artface > [image loading] (T)Drewbie
[image loading] (Z)Stephano < TPW Odyssey > [image loading] (T)Drewbie
[image loading] (Z)Stephano < TPW Ohana > [image loading] (T)Drewbie


Results
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading] (Z)Stephano < TPW Artface > [image loading] (T)Drewbie
[image loading] (Z)Stephano < TPW Odyssey > [image loading] (T)Drewbie
[image loading] (Z)Stephano < TPW Ohana > [image loading] (T)Drewbie

(Z)Stephano 1-2 (T)Drewbie





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[image loading] (T)Loner < TPW Artface > [image loading] (Z)Zelniq
[image loading] (T)Loner < TPW Odyssey > [image loading] (Z)Zelniq
[image loading] (T)Loner < TPW Ohana > [image loading] (Z)Zelniq


Results
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading] (T)Loner < TPW Artface > [image loading] (Z)Zelniq
[image loading] (T)Loner < TPW Odyssey > [image loading] (Z)Zelniq


(T)Loner 2-0 (Z)Zelniq




Loser's Bracket Rd 2

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[image loading] (T)Drewbie < TPW Ohana > [image loading] (T)Major
[image loading] (T)Drewbie < TPW Artface > [image loading] (T)Major
[image loading] (T)Drewbie < TPW Overgrown > [image loading] (T)Major


Results
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading] (T)Drewbie < TPW Ohana > [image loading] (T)Major
[image loading] (T)Drewbie < TPW Artface > [image loading] (T)Major
[image loading] (T)Drewbie < TPW Overgrown > [image loading] (T)Major

(T)Drewbie 1-2 (T)Major




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[image loading] (P)Attero< TPW Odyssey > [image loading] (P)Grubby
[image loading] (P)Attero < TPW Artface > [image loading] (P)Grubby
[image loading] (P)Attero < TPW Overgrown > [image loading] (P)Grubby


Results
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading] (P)Attero< TPW Odyssey > [image loading] (P)Grubby
[image loading] (P)Attero < TPW Damage, Inc. > [image loading] (P)Grubby


(P)Attero 2-0 (P)Grubby



Loser's Bracket Rd 3


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[image loading] (P)Mentalist < TPW Emerald Jungle > [image loading] (T)Pokebunny
[image loading] (P)Mentalist < TPW Artface > [image loading] (T)Pokebunny
[image loading] (P)Mentalist < TPW Overgrown > [image loading] (T)Pokebunny


Results
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading] (P)Mentalist < TPW Emerald Jungle > [image loading] (T)Pokebunny
[image loading] (P)Mentalist < TPW Artface > [image loading] (T)Pokebunny
[image loading] (P)Mentalist < TPW Overgrown > [image loading] (T)Pokebunny

(P)Mentalist 1-2 (T)Pokebunny



HoN Match

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VirgilSC2
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States6151 Posts
November 17 2011 22:30 GMT
#2
How many days of coverage will there be for this Semi-Open?
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Johanaz
Profile Joined September 2010
Denmark363 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-18 01:59:28
November 17 2011 22:44 GMT
#3
The maps used:

TPW Artifice+ Show Spoiler [map overview] +
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TPW Odyssey+ Show Spoiler [map overview] +
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TPW Damage Inc+ Show Spoiler [map overview] +
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edit: fixed link
TPW Map Maker - theplanetaryworkshop.com
Dexington
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada7276 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-18 01:20:19
November 17 2011 23:40 GMT
#4
The bracket on liquipedia is completely up to date now.

Stephano might get taken out here by Drewbie. This bracket is looking very odd.
"Man you guys are missing out waving your stats dicks about instead of watching this pvp" - bbm
simmeh
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada2511 Posts
November 18 2011 01:19 GMT
#5
dayumm drewbie!!!
byah!
mechavoc
Profile Joined December 2010
United States664 Posts
November 18 2011 01:20 GMT
#6
Great play by Drew vs Stephano game 1 !!! Drew drops back in business
mechavoc
Profile Joined December 2010
United States664 Posts
November 18 2011 01:25 GMT
#7
Nice scout by Stephano!
iSometric
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
2221 Posts
November 18 2011 01:27 GMT
#8
Omg gogo Drewby!
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pbjsandwich
Profile Joined August 2010
United States443 Posts
November 18 2011 01:34 GMT
#9
what maps are these?

are they from the TL competition?
Zerodragoon
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
57 Posts
November 18 2011 01:35 GMT
#10
On November 18 2011 10:34 pbjsandwich wrote:
what maps are these?

are they from the TL competition?


All new maps they are trying out for this tournament
Zerodragoon
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
57 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-18 01:40:46
November 18 2011 01:40 GMT
#11
Double
EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5245 Posts
November 18 2011 01:40 GMT
#12
Stephano came out ahead in that engagement, me thinks.
aka "neophyte". learn lots. dont judge. laugh for no reason. be nice. seek happiness. -D[9]
simmeh
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada2511 Posts
November 18 2011 01:48 GMT
#13
stephano just giving away infestors
byah!
Angelbelow
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3728 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-18 01:48:39
November 18 2011 01:48 GMT
#14
Wow these are pretty sloppy engagements from both players all game long. Terran is more forgiving so drewbie seiging late doesnt cost him the game.
You may delay, but time will not. Current Music obsession: Opeth
lulzury
Profile Joined February 2010
United States236 Posts
November 18 2011 01:48 GMT
#15
Stephano had a brain aneurism or something in that last set.
SEn hwaiting!!!
Daniel C
Profile Joined October 2010
Hong Kong1606 Posts
November 18 2011 01:49 GMT
#16
Who's casting with gretorp right now?
In theory, theory and practice are the same. In practice, they are not.
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
November 18 2011 01:49 GMT
#17
stephano is awful today :/
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Lavi
Profile Joined November 2011
Bangladesh793 Posts
November 18 2011 01:50 GMT
#18
Not a good day for stephano... he just got manhandled by slayers crank on the other stream, now getting smash by drewbie. =\
EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5245 Posts
November 18 2011 01:51 GMT
#19
Gz to drewbie... good defenses/attacks all game.
aka "neophyte". learn lots. dont judge. laugh for no reason. be nice. seek happiness. -D[9]
Dexington
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada7276 Posts
November 18 2011 01:51 GMT
#20
Drewbieeeeeeeeeeeee!
"Man you guys are missing out waving your stats dicks about instead of watching this pvp" - bbm
hyperdemented
Profile Joined April 2011
Austria372 Posts
November 18 2011 01:51 GMT
#21
really bad play by stephano
hitpoint
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1511 Posts
November 18 2011 01:51 GMT
#22
Nice Drewbie.
It's spelled LOSE not LOOSE.
mechavoc
Profile Joined December 2010
United States664 Posts
November 18 2011 01:52 GMT
#23
Drewbie looking good Korea agrees with him it seems
Lavi
Profile Joined November 2011
Bangladesh793 Posts
November 18 2011 01:52 GMT
#24
On November 18 2011 10:49 Daniel C wrote:
Who's casting with gretorp right now?


Orb I believe. He also casts the korean weekly tournaments.
InvalidID
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States1050 Posts
November 18 2011 01:52 GMT
#25
Drewbie so under rated
AdrianHealey
Profile Joined January 2011
Belgium480 Posts
November 18 2011 01:53 GMT
#26
Is it me, or are the wrong maps announced?
I love.
GettingIt
Profile Joined August 2011
1656 Posts
November 18 2011 01:53 GMT
#27
Perhaps Stephano wasn't trying his best because hes going to be in Korea training for the Blizzard Cup when NASL happens
figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
November 18 2011 01:54 GMT
#28
One can't always play his best - gratz to Drewbie, nice to see the power of ghosts vs such composition.
If you stand next to my head, you can hear the ocean. - Day[9]
Daniel C
Profile Joined October 2010
Hong Kong1606 Posts
November 18 2011 01:55 GMT
#29
Great job Drewbie!
In theory, theory and practice are the same. In practice, they are not.
MisterFred
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2033 Posts
November 18 2011 01:56 GMT
#30
He HAS been practicing in Korea.
"The victor? Not the highest scoring, nor the best strategist, nor the best tactitian. The victor was he that was closest to the Tao of FFA." -.Praetor
mechavoc
Profile Joined December 2010
United States664 Posts
November 18 2011 01:58 GMT
#31
It is good to see Drew go back to the Drewbie drops they are so affective he needs to keep that harass up
ColdLava
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Canada1673 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-18 02:01:22
November 18 2011 02:01 GMT
#32
People are willing to call strategies in sc2 "all-ins" or "cheese" or what not WAY too easily.

edit: as in, 2 hellions going up a ramp is an 'all in'? lol?
Lavi
Profile Joined November 2011
Bangladesh793 Posts
November 18 2011 02:01 GMT
#33
Yeah, seems drewbie really powered up in the hyperbolic time chamber known as korea.
Dexington
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada7276 Posts
November 18 2011 02:04 GMT
#34
On November 18 2011 11:01 ColdLava wrote:
People are willing to call strategies in sc2 "all-ins" or "cheese" or what not WAY too easily.

edit: as in, 2 hellions going up a ramp is an 'all in'? lol?


Who said anything about an all-in?
"Man you guys are missing out waving your stats dicks about instead of watching this pvp" - bbm
Daniel C
Profile Joined October 2010
Hong Kong1606 Posts
November 18 2011 02:04 GMT
#35
On November 18 2011 11:01 ColdLava wrote:
People are willing to call strategies in sc2 "all-ins" or "cheese" or what not WAY too easily.

edit: as in, 2 hellions going up a ramp is an 'all in'? lol?


Anything that does not involve lifting your CC up and floating it into your opponent's base is an all-in it nowadays it seems...
In theory, theory and practice are the same. In practice, they are not.
daxile
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada829 Posts
November 18 2011 02:04 GMT
#36
On November 18 2011 11:01 Lavi wrote:
Yeah, seems drewbie really powered up in the hyperbolic time chamber known as korea.

1 day korean training = 1 year eu/na training
to live is to suffer
Daniel C
Profile Joined October 2010
Hong Kong1606 Posts
November 18 2011 02:07 GMT
#37
Man...Zelniq would have won if he spent all that money =/
In theory, theory and practice are the same. In practice, they are not.
Zerodragoon
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
57 Posts
November 18 2011 02:07 GMT
#38
Why in the world did the zerg not just smash those tanks there?
Johanaz
Profile Joined September 2010
Denmark363 Posts
November 18 2011 02:07 GMT
#39
On November 18 2011 10:53 AdrianHealey wrote:
Is it me, or are the wrong maps announced?

Looks like they announced Ohana instead of Damage Inc.

Here are the 3 maps used:

TPW Artifice+ Show Spoiler [map overview] +
[image loading]
TPW Odyssey+ Show Spoiler [map overview] +
[image loading]
TPW Damage Inc+ Show Spoiler [map overview] +
[image loading]
TPW Map Maker - theplanetaryworkshop.com
ColdLava
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Canada1673 Posts
November 18 2011 02:08 GMT
#40
On November 18 2011 11:04 Dexington wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2011 11:01 ColdLava wrote:
People are willing to call strategies in sc2 "all-ins" or "cheese" or what not WAY too easily.

edit: as in, 2 hellions going up a ramp is an 'all in'? lol?


Who said anything about an all-in?


Unless I misheard, I thought one of the commentators said "Loner going up the ramp with the two hellions without knowing what was up there was really all-in in my opinion."
monitor
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2404 Posts
November 18 2011 02:11 GMT
#41
On November 18 2011 11:07 Johanaz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2011 10:53 AdrianHealey wrote:
Is it me, or are the wrong maps announced?

Looks like they announced Ohana instead of Damage Inc.

Here are the 3 maps used:

TPW Artifice+ Show Spoiler [map overview] +
[image loading]
TPW Odyssey+ Show Spoiler [map overview] +
[image loading]
TPW Damage Inc+ Show Spoiler [map overview] +
[image loading]


And concrete dreams The TPW maps are playing well so far, congratulations!
Mapmaker & TLMC Judge. Amygdala, Frostline, Crimson Court, and Korhal Compound (WoL).
AdrianHealey
Profile Joined January 2011
Belgium480 Posts
November 18 2011 02:12 GMT
#42
The second map definitely isn't Odyssey.
I love.
Daniel C
Profile Joined October 2010
Hong Kong1606 Posts
November 18 2011 02:15 GMT
#43
roflol....wtf...
In theory, theory and practice are the same. In practice, they are not.
ColdLava
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Canada1673 Posts
November 18 2011 02:17 GMT
#44
That's why you scout with an overlord kiddos
AdrianHealey
Profile Joined January 2011
Belgium480 Posts
November 18 2011 02:17 GMT
#45
I assume missclick? "D" in stead of "z"?
I love.
Divinek
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Canada4045 Posts
November 18 2011 02:31 GMT
#46
those zelniq games were painful
Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.
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CeriseCherries
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
6170 Posts
November 18 2011 02:37 GMT
#47
Poor stephano... now it just feeds the fires of whether or not he is top-class -.-
Remember, no matter where you go, there you are.
iSometric
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
2221 Posts
November 18 2011 02:41 GMT
#48
Thanks for the quick updates in the OP.
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JohnMatrix
Profile Joined April 2011
France1357 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-18 02:48:17
November 18 2011 02:41 GMT
#49
On November 18 2011 11:37 CeriseCherries wrote:
Poor stephano... now it just feeds the fires of whether or not he is top-class -.-


yep after mma had lost 3-0 vs Lucky i thought the same... -_-

but yeah offline events doesn't matter. only online matters right.? ...
1Eris1
Profile Joined September 2010
United States5797 Posts
November 18 2011 02:51 GMT
#50
Zelniqqqq =(((
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CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
November 18 2011 03:01 GMT
#51
Drewbie has gotten a lot better. That last game against Major looked painful though.
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Dexington
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada7276 Posts
November 18 2011 03:13 GMT
#52
Attero's pretty good at PvP
"Man you guys are missing out waving your stats dicks about instead of watching this pvp" - bbm
VPCursed
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
1044 Posts
November 18 2011 03:29 GMT
#53
drewbie beating stephano?
no offense to NASL or drewbie but.. really? Do you guys really have to have fucking unknown maps for a buy in tourney. If you want to test maps find another place to do it.
Killerhands
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States269 Posts
November 18 2011 03:32 GMT
#54
On November 18 2011 12:29 VPCursed wrote:
drewbie beating stephano?
no offense to NASL or drewbie but.. really? Do you guys really have to have fucking unknown maps for a buy in tourney. If you want to test maps find another place to do it.



Cursed... take the fanboy hat off for a second and watch the games... He played SUPER GREEDY and made quite a few poor decisions. Don't use maps as a scapegoat for poor play from one of your favorite players.
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poorcloud
Profile Joined April 2011
Singapore2748 Posts
November 18 2011 03:49 GMT
#55
Who won between mentalist and pokebunny?
Dexington
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada7276 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-18 03:52:33
November 18 2011 03:52 GMT
#56
Game 3 is right now

Pokebunny
"Man you guys are missing out waving your stats dicks about instead of watching this pvp" - bbm
VPCursed
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
1044 Posts
November 18 2011 03:53 GMT
#57
On November 18 2011 12:32 Killerhands wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2011 12:29 VPCursed wrote:
drewbie beating stephano?
no offense to NASL or drewbie but.. really? Do you guys really have to have fucking unknown maps for a buy in tourney. If you want to test maps find another place to do it.



Cursed... take the fanboy hat off for a second and watch the games... He played SUPER GREEDY and made quite a few poor decisions. Don't use maps as a scapegoat for poor play from one of your favorite players.

fine, TT.. so angry he didnt make it
Tchado
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Jordan1831 Posts
November 18 2011 03:55 GMT
#58
finally ! a hon game
ChuCky.Ca
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada2497 Posts
November 18 2011 04:05 GMT
#59
On November 18 2011 12:29 VPCursed wrote:
drewbie beating stephano?
no offense to NASL or drewbie but.. really? Do you guys really have to have fucking unknown maps for a buy in tourney. If you want to test maps find another place to do it.

Fanboy much
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ThisGS
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany255 Posts
November 18 2011 04:08 GMT
#60
Funny games from Stephano, he played as if he was completely drunk, he couldnt even spell when he wronte sth :D
He dominated all games and threw them away with completely un-stephanolike-moves^^

what happened in grubby vs attero? did grubby play then when he was in korea back then? cannot explain the result otherwise tbh, didnt see those games though.
ThisGS
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany255 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-18 04:18:44
November 18 2011 04:11 GMT
#61
On November 18 2011 12:53 VPCursed wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2011 12:32 Killerhands wrote:
On November 18 2011 12:29 VPCursed wrote:
drewbie beating stephano?
no offense to NASL or drewbie but.. really? Do you guys really have to have fucking unknown maps for a buy in tourney. If you want to test maps find another place to do it.



Cursed... take the fanboy hat off for a second and watch the games... He played SUPER GREEDY and made quite a few poor decisions. Don't use maps as a scapegoat for poor play from one of your favorite players.

fine, TT.. so angry he didnt make it


super greedy? where was stephanos greed? he just lost all games cause he move commands his army into strange positions and played rly poorly lategame, which is usually clearly his strengh. 8 broodlords movecommand into stimmarines? aye, drewbie played that great :D

Games like that happen, ppl who discredit stephano cause of such a stupid bo3 are just the worst anti-fanboys ever. the games do not change the fact that stephano remains top 3 foreiger with idra and huk at all. Every player loses games he shouldnt from time to time, even idra and huk.

I just wanna remind you, that this game was most likely played a day after some event (since we know that was the reason stephano forfeit his WB1 game). Fruthermore, im pretty sure stephano didnt have the time (or didnt care) to even play the maps once. Dont put too much into these games plz, stephano clearly did mistakes he would never do when it matters.
ThisGS
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany255 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-18 04:16:43
November 18 2011 04:14 GMT
#62
On November 18 2011 13:05 ChuCky.Ca wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2011 12:29 VPCursed wrote:
drewbie beating stephano?
no offense to NASL or drewbie but.. really? Do you guys really have to have fucking unknown maps for a buy in tourney. If you want to test maps find another place to do it.

Fanboy much



My question would be: who is the fanboy here? youre from canada, drewbie is from canada. I hope you dont believe drewbie could ever win a map from stpehano in a real game that matters on maps that stephano has seen before.
1Eris1
Profile Joined September 2010
United States5797 Posts
November 18 2011 04:33 GMT
#63
On November 18 2011 13:11 ThisGS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2011 12:53 VPCursed wrote:
On November 18 2011 12:32 Killerhands wrote:
On November 18 2011 12:29 VPCursed wrote:
drewbie beating stephano?
no offense to NASL or drewbie but.. really? Do you guys really have to have fucking unknown maps for a buy in tourney. If you want to test maps find another place to do it.



Cursed... take the fanboy hat off for a second and watch the games... He played SUPER GREEDY and made quite a few poor decisions. Don't use maps as a scapegoat for poor play from one of your favorite players.

fine, TT.. so angry he didnt make it


super greedy? where was stephanos greed? he just lost all games cause he move commands his army into strange positions and played rly poorly lategame, which is usually clearly his strengh. 8 broodlords movecommand into stimmarines? aye, drewbie played that great :D

Games like that happen, ppl who discredit stephano cause of such a stupid bo3 are just the worst anti-fanboys ever. the games do not change the fact that stephano remains top 3 foreiger with idra and huk at all. Every player loses games he shouldnt from time to time, even idra and huk.

I just wanna remind you, that this game was most likely played a day after some event (since we know that was the reason stephano forfeit his WB1 game). Fruthermore, im pretty sure stephano didnt have the time (or didnt care) to even play the maps once. Dont put too much into these games plz, stephano clearly did mistakes he would never do when it matters.



You contradict yourself completely in this post. Stephano played bad, don't make excuses. He's not perfect
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DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44336 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-18 04:40:56
November 18 2011 04:37 GMT
#64
On November 18 2011 13:14 ThisGS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2011 13:05 ChuCky.Ca wrote:
On November 18 2011 12:29 VPCursed wrote:
drewbie beating stephano?
no offense to NASL or drewbie but.. really? Do you guys really have to have fucking unknown maps for a buy in tourney. If you want to test maps find another place to do it.

Fanboy much



My question would be: who is the fanboy here? youre from canada, drewbie is from canada. I hope you dont believe drewbie could ever win a map from stpehano in a real game that matters on maps that stephano has seen before.


Fanboy much

+ Show Spoiler +
Because Drewbie is a pro at those brand new maps comparatively? Seriously, Stephano lost. Get over it. He's not infallible. Did you see him get RAPED on Metalopolis by a joke of a push in the IPL Team Arena, without even winning a single game? He played extremely poorly there too. He's a fantastic player, but it's just plain silly to think that he could never lose. He's even lost to Goody before, so he could surely lose to Drewbie. Stranger things have happened.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
ChuCky.Ca
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada2497 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-18 05:14:08
November 18 2011 05:02 GMT
#65
On November 18 2011 13:14 ThisGS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2011 13:05 ChuCky.Ca wrote:
On November 18 2011 12:29 VPCursed wrote:
drewbie beating stephano?
no offense to NASL or drewbie but.. really? Do you guys really have to have fucking unknown maps for a buy in tourney. If you want to test maps find another place to do it.

Fanboy much



My question would be: who is the fanboy here? youre from canada, drewbie is from canada. I hope you dont believe drewbie could ever win a map from stpehano in a real game that matters on maps that stephano has seen before.

Who the fuck said Im a Drewbie fan just cause Im from Canada that is kinda fucked up of a thing to say weird. why are you standing up for Stephano you shouldn't be hes from France your from Germany by your logic that cant happen. you must only like TLO and Goody
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CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
November 18 2011 05:17 GMT
#66
LOL Stephano fanboys making up excuses for why he lost? How sad and yet predictable.

He got whooped, get over it. It happens to all good players.
WriterWovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen.
Awesomeness
Profile Joined October 2008
Germany1361 Posts
November 18 2011 05:28 GMT
#67
Relax, I actually think this guy has a point. It's just weird to use new maps in a qualification tournament for a big event, because the results will be somewhat random, since nobody knows how to play on those maps. It's just easier for a weaker player to win IN GENERAL. And since they won't use those maps in the finals, I don't see why you would use them in the qualification-tournament...

It feels like the NASL just wanted to try those maps in competitive play, but they should have used a separate tournament for this...
xlord 5:0
Doraemon
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Australia14949 Posts
November 18 2011 05:33 GMT
#68
On November 18 2011 13:11 ThisGS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2011 12:53 VPCursed wrote:
On November 18 2011 12:32 Killerhands wrote:
On November 18 2011 12:29 VPCursed wrote:
drewbie beating stephano?
no offense to NASL or drewbie but.. really? Do you guys really have to have fucking unknown maps for a buy in tourney. If you want to test maps find another place to do it.



Cursed... take the fanboy hat off for a second and watch the games... He played SUPER GREEDY and made quite a few poor decisions. Don't use maps as a scapegoat for poor play from one of your favorite players.

fine, TT.. so angry he didnt make it


super greedy? where was stephanos greed? he just lost all games cause he move commands his army into strange positions and played rly poorly lategame, which is usually clearly his strengh. 8 broodlords movecommand into stimmarines? aye, drewbie played that great :D

Games like that happen, ppl who discredit stephano cause of such a stupid bo3 are just the worst anti-fanboys ever. the games do not change the fact that stephano remains top 3 foreiger with idra and huk at all. Every player loses games he shouldnt from time to time, even idra and huk.

I just wanna remind you, that this game was most likely played a day after some event (since we know that was the reason stephano forfeit his WB1 game). Fruthermore, im pretty sure stephano didnt have the time (or didnt care) to even play the maps once. Dont put too much into these games plz, stephano clearly did mistakes he would never do when it matters.


you've only joined TL for a month and you are already behaving like this. nobody is discrediting stephano, people just pointed that he played bad and deserved to lose. but you storm in with the most typical fanboy-ish defence: 1. he's /still/ top X player in the world 2. it's just random bo3 3. didn't care or have time. cmon. you can do so much better than that.
Do yourself a favour and just STFU
nokz88
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil1253 Posts
November 18 2011 05:34 GMT
#69
Am I allowed to post about HoN in this thread? If no then I'll delete this post.

This HoN game is too similar to Dota, like, pointlessly similiar in every aspect. Why the hell did they make it like this? LoL is a game on its own, with similar concepts but very different gameplay and it's own flavor. HoN is a carbon copy of Dota, why bother?
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Sea_Food
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Finland1612 Posts
November 18 2011 05:59 GMT
#70
On November 18 2011 14:34 nokz88 wrote:
Am I allowed to post about HoN in this thread? If no then I'll delete this post.

This HoN game is too similar to Dota, like, pointlessly similiar in every aspect. Why the hell did they make it like this? LoL is a game on its own, with similar concepts but very different gameplay and it's own flavor. HoN is a carbon copy of Dota, why bother?

Cant wait to see your reaction when you see DotA 2.
Trashie
Profile Joined March 2011
Norway131 Posts
November 18 2011 07:47 GMT
#71
What's up with the coverage? Impossible to find out about results. Every bracket I've looked at (binarybeast & liquipedia amongst others) is lacking alot.
CustomKal
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada749 Posts
November 18 2011 08:20 GMT
#72
On November 18 2011 14:59 Sea_Food wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2011 14:34 nokz88 wrote:
Am I allowed to post about HoN in this thread? If no then I'll delete this post.

This HoN game is too similar to Dota, like, pointlessly similiar in every aspect. Why the hell did they make it like this? LoL is a game on its own, with similar concepts but very different gameplay and it's own flavor. HoN is a carbon copy of Dota, why bother?

Cant wait to see your reaction when you see DotA 2.


Except Dota 2 is suppose to be a carbon copy of dota since IceFrog is working on it, the current maker of dota.
tienvh
Profile Joined November 2010
Singapore20 Posts
November 18 2011 08:47 GMT
#73
What I have learned from Day9 is: "good player" and "good play" are two different things.
Stephano is a (very?) good player, but he play terribly in this tourney, Drewbie deserved his win...

Please take a look at MC, he's one of the best Protoss player out there, but sometimes I can see that he play horribly bad...
nothing
nam nam
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden4672 Posts
November 18 2011 09:40 GMT
#74
Grubby.

Somewhat disappointing results today.
JohnMatrix
Profile Joined April 2011
France1357 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-18 09:47:01
November 18 2011 09:44 GMT
#75
On November 18 2011 14:33 Doraemon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2011 13:11 ThisGS wrote:
On November 18 2011 12:53 VPCursed wrote:
On November 18 2011 12:32 Killerhands wrote:
On November 18 2011 12:29 VPCursed wrote:
drewbie beating stephano?
no offense to NASL or drewbie but.. really? Do you guys really have to have fucking unknown maps for a buy in tourney. If you want to test maps find another place to do it.



Cursed... take the fanboy hat off for a second and watch the games... He played SUPER GREEDY and made quite a few poor decisions. Don't use maps as a scapegoat for poor play from one of your favorite players.

fine, TT.. so angry he didnt make it


super greedy? where was stephanos greed? he just lost all games cause he move commands his army into strange positions and played rly poorly lategame, which is usually clearly his strengh. 8 broodlords movecommand into stimmarines? aye, drewbie played that great :D

Games like that happen, ppl who discredit stephano cause of such a stupid bo3 are just the worst anti-fanboys ever. the games do not change the fact that stephano remains top 3 foreiger with idra and huk at all. Every player loses games he shouldnt from time to time, even idra and huk.

I just wanna remind you, that this game was most likely played a day after some event (since we know that was the reason stephano forfeit his WB1 game). Fruthermore, im pretty sure stephano didnt have the time (or didnt care) to even play the maps once. Dont put too much into these games plz, stephano clearly did mistakes he would never do when it matters.


you've only joined TL for a month and you are already behaving like this. nobody is discrediting stephano, people just pointed that he played bad and deserved to lose. but you storm in with the most typical fanboy-ish defence: 1. he's /still/ top X player in the world 2. it's just random bo3 3. didn't care or have time. cmon. you can do so much better than that.


you kidding right ? after his IPL3 victory a bunch of posts saying his victory wasnt great beacause he didnt have to face good players, for ESWC he could hear french casters, his victory over markineking was beacause mkp played bad. there are plenty more (boxer at mlg, the stc...) Stephano is the most hated succeful player of all the sc2 scene. and nobody stated he cannot loose a game at all. remember IEM Ny Gatored 3-0 top and 2-1 DRG in the groupstage, nobody can always win. and there is no so called stephano "fanboys" or other players who said that once
NipponBanzai
Profile Joined September 2011
Canada518 Posts
November 18 2011 09:51 GMT
#76
On November 18 2011 14:28 Awesomeness wrote:
Relax, I actually think this guy has a point. It's just weird to use new maps in a qualification tournament for a big event, because the results will be somewhat random, since nobody knows how to play on those maps. It's just easier for a weaker player to win IN GENERAL. And since they won't use those maps in the finals, I don't see why you would use them in the qualification-tournament...

It feels like the NASL just wanted to try those maps in competitive play, but they should have used a separate tournament for this...


This happened in broodwar too. People bitching about new maps. Thank god the organizers are thinking about the long term instead of the short term like most fans otherwise it would take forever to get balanced maps. To host a different tournament just to test new maps is a great idea but not many organizations can justify making a new random tourney that most good players will ignore. That's a lot of time and organization. The players will thank them later when we actually have a decent map pool.
S_SienZ
Profile Joined September 2011
1878 Posts
November 18 2011 09:52 GMT
#77
On November 18 2011 14:34 nokz88 wrote:
Am I allowed to post about HoN in this thread? If no then I'll delete this post.

This HoN game is too similar to Dota, like, pointlessly similiar in every aspect. Why the hell did they make it like this? LoL is a game on its own, with similar concepts but very different gameplay and it's own flavor. HoN is a carbon copy of Dota, why bother?


This has been argued to death, on both sides, last year.

Ever since HoN started adding it's own heroes and map / item tweaks to this day it has progressed into a game of it's own already.

If you're honestly just stumbling upon it NOW, and want to know more feel free to PM me. But if this post is just a way of you bashing HoN then it's time you move on really.

nam nam
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden4672 Posts
November 18 2011 10:00 GMT
#78
On November 18 2011 18:44 JohnMatrix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2011 14:33 Doraemon wrote:
On November 18 2011 13:11 ThisGS wrote:
On November 18 2011 12:53 VPCursed wrote:
On November 18 2011 12:32 Killerhands wrote:
On November 18 2011 12:29 VPCursed wrote:
drewbie beating stephano?
no offense to NASL or drewbie but.. really? Do you guys really have to have fucking unknown maps for a buy in tourney. If you want to test maps find another place to do it.



Cursed... take the fanboy hat off for a second and watch the games... He played SUPER GREEDY and made quite a few poor decisions. Don't use maps as a scapegoat for poor play from one of your favorite players.

fine, TT.. so angry he didnt make it


super greedy? where was stephanos greed? he just lost all games cause he move commands his army into strange positions and played rly poorly lategame, which is usually clearly his strengh. 8 broodlords movecommand into stimmarines? aye, drewbie played that great :D

Games like that happen, ppl who discredit stephano cause of such a stupid bo3 are just the worst anti-fanboys ever. the games do not change the fact that stephano remains top 3 foreiger with idra and huk at all. Every player loses games he shouldnt from time to time, even idra and huk.

I just wanna remind you, that this game was most likely played a day after some event (since we know that was the reason stephano forfeit his WB1 game). Fruthermore, im pretty sure stephano didnt have the time (or didnt care) to even play the maps once. Dont put too much into these games plz, stephano clearly did mistakes he would never do when it matters.


you've only joined TL for a month and you are already behaving like this. nobody is discrediting stephano, people just pointed that he played bad and deserved to lose. but you storm in with the most typical fanboy-ish defence: 1. he's /still/ top X player in the world 2. it's just random bo3 3. didn't care or have time. cmon. you can do so much better than that.


you kidding right ? after his IPL3 victory a bunch of posts saying his victory wasnt great beacause he didnt have to face good players, for ESWC he could hear french casters, his victory over markineking was beacause mkp played bad. there are plenty more (boxer at mlg, the stc...) Stephano is the most hated succeful player of all the sc2 scene. and nobody stated he cannot loose a game at all. remember IEM Ny Gatored 3-0 top and 2-1 DRG in the groupstage, nobody can always win. and there is no so called stephano "fanboys" or other players who said that once


I seriously doubt that.
ravemir
Profile Joined April 2011
Portugal595 Posts
November 18 2011 10:52 GMT
#79
On November 18 2011 19:00 nam nam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2011 18:44 JohnMatrix wrote:
On November 18 2011 14:33 Doraemon wrote:
On November 18 2011 13:11 ThisGS wrote:
On November 18 2011 12:53 VPCursed wrote:
On November 18 2011 12:32 Killerhands wrote:
On November 18 2011 12:29 VPCursed wrote:
drewbie beating stephano?
no offense to NASL or drewbie but.. really? Do you guys really have to have fucking unknown maps for a buy in tourney. If you want to test maps find another place to do it.



Cursed... take the fanboy hat off for a second and watch the games... He played SUPER GREEDY and made quite a few poor decisions. Don't use maps as a scapegoat for poor play from one of your favorite players.

fine, TT.. so angry he didnt make it


super greedy? where was stephanos greed? he just lost all games cause he move commands his army into strange positions and played rly poorly lategame, which is usually clearly his strengh. 8 broodlords movecommand into stimmarines? aye, drewbie played that great :D

Games like that happen, ppl who discredit stephano cause of such a stupid bo3 are just the worst anti-fanboys ever. the games do not change the fact that stephano remains top 3 foreiger with idra and huk at all. Every player loses games he shouldnt from time to time, even idra and huk.

I just wanna remind you, that this game was most likely played a day after some event (since we know that was the reason stephano forfeit his WB1 game). Fruthermore, im pretty sure stephano didnt have the time (or didnt care) to even play the maps once. Dont put too much into these games plz, stephano clearly did mistakes he would never do when it matters.


you've only joined TL for a month and you are already behaving like this. nobody is discrediting stephano, people just pointed that he played bad and deserved to lose. but you storm in with the most typical fanboy-ish defence: 1. he's /still/ top X player in the world 2. it's just random bo3 3. didn't care or have time. cmon. you can do so much better than that.


you kidding right ? after his IPL3 victory a bunch of posts saying his victory wasnt great beacause he didnt have to face good players, for ESWC he could hear french casters, his victory over markineking was beacause mkp played bad. there are plenty more (boxer at mlg, the stc...) Stephano is the most hated succeful player of all the sc2 scene. and nobody stated he cannot loose a game at all. remember IEM Ny Gatored 3-0 top and 2-1 DRG in the groupstage, nobody can always win. and there is no so called stephano "fanboys" or other players who said that once


I seriously doubt that.

Cue Idra
"more gg, more skill"
koolaid1990
Profile Joined September 2010
831 Posts
November 18 2011 11:26 GMT
#80
everyone has their slumps; and what we all learned is that LAN play is different from online play.
koreans always get a power up at LAN play; LANS are the only thing that matter anyway.
Ylrahc
Profile Joined September 2011
France496 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-18 12:25:52
November 18 2011 12:21 GMT
#81
On November 18 2011 10:53 GettingIt wrote:
Perhaps Stephano wasn't trying his best because hes going to be in Korea training for the Blizzard Cup when NASL happens

This. Not giving a damn is not a good way to motivate yourself :p
Stephano can play awful when tired / not motivated, it doesn't make him less good when on top of his game. That said, this huge variation in his gameplay depending on circumstances is one of his weaknesses, and may prevent him to become / stay (choose one if you're a hater, or the other if you're a fanboy) a top player in the future.
Shadow and dust
Dexington
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada7276 Posts
November 18 2011 15:50 GMT
#82
On November 18 2011 13:08 ThisGS wrote:
Funny games from Stephano, he played as if he was completely drunk, he couldnt even spell when he wronte sth :D
He dominated all games and threw them away with completely un-stephanolike-moves^^

what happened in grubby vs attero? did grubby play then when he was in korea back then? cannot explain the result otherwise tbh, didnt see those games though.


Grubby expanded both games and had too much supply tied up in workers for Attero's one base pushes. First game was with Phoenix's I think and he caught Grubby trying to tech to DT's. Second game was, I believe, just a blink stalker push, but it was just as Grubby had got his natural up and only had one Immortal and a couple Phoenix.

Pretty much, Grubby just played really greedy.
"Man you guys are missing out waving your stats dicks about instead of watching this pvp" - bbm
Eternalmisfit
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States643 Posts
November 18 2011 16:31 GMT
#83
This may not be entirely relevant to the current set of games but people should keep in mind that Stephano was a 'relative' dark horse compared to a lot of other pros when he stormed into the scene. His entry, along with some really incredible and new builds, allowed him domination for a short duration. However, now that he is known and famous and his playstyle is also better known, people will start preparing specifically for him. In addition, as his builds get figured out, his win rate would marginally drop down from the extremely high levels that they were at.

The fact that he is losing a bit more is a reflection that people consider him a major contender and are preparing specific counter builds and does not necessarily reflect on skill or a lack of it. His situation is very much akin to DRG when he stormed the scene in GSTL and was nigh unbeatable in TvZ for an extended period of time. However, once figured out, DRG is still an extremely strong Z player but no longer has the invincible TvZ aura around him.

I am personally of the opinion that Stephano is a talented good player but whether he will end up as one of the greats or end up as another top foreign player can only be determined by consistent performance over a longer period of time.
Paljas
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6926 Posts
November 18 2011 17:10 GMT
#84
Without stephano, I dont see anybody to stop Thorzain.
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chocopaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
2072 Posts
November 18 2011 17:19 GMT
#85
When will the HoN match start approximately?
http://twitter.com/lechocopaw
AdrianHealey
Profile Joined January 2011
Belgium480 Posts
November 18 2011 18:06 GMT
#86
I'm a fan of Stephano but he just played awful against Drewbie.
I love.
Gin-san
Profile Joined November 2011
Croatia92 Posts
November 18 2011 18:13 GMT
#87
Stephano vs. Drewbie reminded me about NesTea vs HuK from the GSL 10th anniversary special match. One tried to entertain the crowd while the other played as if his life was depending on this game. Take it easy, bro.
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Dexington
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada7276 Posts
November 18 2011 19:44 GMT
#88
Is the bracket being updated after the European broadcast this time too?
"Man you guys are missing out waving your stats dicks about instead of watching this pvp" - bbm
chocopaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
2072 Posts
November 18 2011 22:23 GMT
#89
Shit, a game with frickin' Scout in it and it isn't finished before MLG starts. =(
Have to watch both, todays matches are great!
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