Not that outlandish.

1 MVP
2 MMA are easily better.

3 Bomber a bit better

4 Polt
5 MarineKing
6 Gumiho
7 Happy/aLive/Ryung/Taeja/jakji cases can be made for these players being on the same level or better.

If we're talking about raw skill I'd put Ganzi right below Bomber at #4.

jkang

United States404 Posts

November 16 2011 10:55 GMT

#825

On November 16 2011 19:53 Alvis wrote:
Is MC still the greatest protoss?

imo, the toss that goes furthest in this GSL might be the greatest.

scsnow

Slovenia515 Posts

November 16 2011 10:55 GMT

#826

On November 16 2011 19:50 SolidMustard wrote:
Sorry but someone had to say it : WTF with protoss ? So obviously OP now !!!

i would like to punch you.

Asha

United Kingdom38257 Posts

November 16 2011 10:55 GMT

#827

On November 16 2011 19:53 how2TL wrote:

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Yeah I know MMA is better than MC I'm just pointing out a bad argument.

You aren't really pointing out a bad argument because you're trying to draw parallels between two very different player scenarios...

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gogo sC

Drazerk

United Kingdom31255 Posts

November 16 2011 10:55 GMT

#828

MC vs

sC

Map is Dual Sight

In the bottom left is

MC

While in the top right is

Enchanted

United States1609 Posts

November 16 2011 10:55 GMT

#829

let's go mc!!

Hassybaby

United Kingdom10823 Posts

November 16 2011 10:55 GMT

#830

On November 16 2011 19:54 Drazerk wrote:

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And now people know why I won't do the OP

's why I've cut back on the stats as well. That and by the time I finish off the spreadsheet.... another 10 games have been played and I have to redo the damn thing since its all relevant

Alric

Australia517 Posts

November 16 2011 10:56 GMT

#831

Regarding the discussion earlier about late game TvP composition: if you have lots of resources (as you usually do late game), make ghosts instead of marines. Ghosts cost only two supply, which is very little considering their cost, so in a maxed army they are become very valuable. I play zerg, but it's my understanding that marines are largely used for DPS against zealots, since marauders can handle pretty much everything else. But because of the bonus that ghosts have against light, ghosts aren't half bad against zealots. Assuming full upgrades, one ghost does 16 DPS against the shieldless zealot, whereas 2 marines with stim do 17.4 DPS - only slightly better, and once you take into account the spellcasting abilities and HP of the ghost it's a no brainer in my opinion. The HP of the ghost (100 vs the 45 of the stimmed marine) is also a pretty big deal, since a lot of the effectiveness of the late game protoss armies is due the splash from high templar and colossus; it ruins low HP units like marines but isn't so bad against relatively high HP units like ghosts.

Sabu113

United States11075 Posts

November 16 2011 10:56 GMT

#832

1-1-1 fears. But MC doesn't buy it. 3 gates rather than the 1 gate fe.

pdd

Australia9933 Posts

November 16 2011 10:56 GMT

#833

On November 16 2011 19:54 Drazerk wrote:

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And now people know why I won't do the OP

Its actually easier to do the OP. Because you don't need to really do anything while the games are on. And once you get used to it it's pretty easy.

Stancel

Singapore15360 Posts

November 16 2011 10:56 GMT

#834

So, who does Artosis think is the best P then? :<

SolidMustard

France1515 Posts

November 16 2011 10:56 GMT

#835

On November 16 2011 19:54 Drazerk wrote:

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And now people know why I won't do the OP

MrCon is a hero of eSports !

MrCon

France29748 Posts

November 16 2011 10:56 GMT

#836

If MC manage to get a sentry and contain sC, sC will be in a very bad shape.

Telcontar

United Kingdom16710 Posts

November 16 2011 10:56 GMT

#837

The BW nickname didn't really have anything to do with his playstyle though Artosis. It's because he throat slashed at his opponents before the game and lost a lot of the times.