EPTLoser of MC vs sC faces winner of JYP vs Bomber/Rainbow
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Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
Loser of MC vs sC faces winner of JYP vs Bomber/Rainbow | ||
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SolidMustard
France1515 Posts
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Imbu
United States903 Posts
On November 16 2011 19:45 SafeAsCheese wrote: How is MMA below MVP? Their TvZ is equal, and MMA beat MVP in TvT... The fact that MVP has 3 times the number of championships that MMA has should be sufficient enough reason. And a game, as has been pointed out, means nothing in the grand scale of "skill". | ||
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Hassybaby
United Kingdom10823 Posts
On November 16 2011 19:47 Caesarion wrote: You want to know Fionn's hit count? He put CoCa in his power rank. The hit count is at infinite right now. ROFL, the ultimate kill there  On November 16 2011 19:47 Drazerk wrote: I can't access gom player from work is my excuse  Fair enough, I'll give you that one | ||
Porcelina
United Kingdom3249 Posts
On November 16 2011 19:47 Montana[TK] wrote: Because Mvp is a better player. That's why he's above him. I think it also has a lot to do with the fact that MMA, true or false, feels like a much more volatile player than Mvp. It is easier to imagine him losing games, his style includes taking more risks, his pace is more frantic. Add to that a TvP that is largely untested for MMA and it is hard to really put him above Mvp at this point in time. | ||
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Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
On November 16 2011 19:49 double620 wrote: let us be honest. Ganzi's tvp has been improving. yes. it is still his worst though  | ||
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Telcontar
United Kingdom16710 Posts
On November 16 2011 19:48 how2TL wrote: MMA is top 3 undisputed in my opinion. Your attitude is pretty dickish. And many see MVP as top 1 right now. So he's better than MMA? Flash didn't stop becoming the best player in the world when Effort beat him. | ||
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ineq
Sweden376 Posts
On November 16 2011 19:48 how2TL wrote: MMA is top 3 undisputed in my opinion. Your attitude is pretty dickish. MMA has proven he can win a major tournament. There's still a while before atleast i will consider him part of the "Big 3" though. He has more to prove before that. | ||
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Assaulter
Lithuania324 Posts
On November 16 2011 19:46 drgonzhere wrote: This is just a thought, but some players, specifically thorzain, have shown willingness to mix in a lot of hellions into their compositions. I personally think its not a bad idea as once you get on 2-3 bases they are basically free and upgraded can do a lot of damage. Also, 1 raven can never hurt a composition, and in super late game a transition into mech can work. If you get enough siege tanks, its pretty hard to stop no matter the army of your opponent. anything but tanks in the late game... blink stalkers on them, a-move chargelots, archons, throw a few storms... and you will trade. then you can reinforce with 20 gateways while he makes tanks like.. out of 4-6 factories | ||
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how2TL
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AxionSteel
United States7754 Posts
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NipponBanzai
Canada518 Posts
On November 16 2011 19:48 Elefanto wrote: Yeah, i've seen MVP for instance do multiple times a 1 Rax Siege Tanks expansion, with a strong 2 base follow up push. That's what i'm talking about, rearrange your fucking builds and search for timings. Protoss won't have storm before min 11 at the earliest. And if he goes for storm first, he won't colossus for a longer time. List goes on and on with the possibilities certain builds open. Watch how MC opens currently. He goes Blink Stalker heavy in the midgame, against MMM. Sounds impossible, yet he arranges the timings and his builds so that it works. You can't tell me TERRAN out of all the three races doesn't have the opportunities to make something in the first 10 minutes happen. Terran shouldn't have any right to complain, i'm sorry. Especially after these games, where the Protoss showed an infinitely bigger understanding of the matchup and soley won through that. Haha I don't think anyone with a brain thinks that protoss is OP. The real problem here is that everyone always balance whines when terran wins so it just feels nice to do it back. | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
On November 16 2011 19:46 drgonzhere wrote: Rearrange the builds? And make what? Tanks? You seriously think that tanks are good in tvp? Banshees? Thors? Ravens? Battlecruisers? All countered by the HT. Explain me what we should make, because I wonder if all pro's don't see what you guys see... That is not how the game works. If needed you can always EMP your own Thors/Battlecruisers. In a turtle game to 200/200, when P has an army costing 60/40 in mineral/gas, and Terran has an army 80/20 in mineral/gas. I don't really understand why T makes that army in 25 minutes of passive play. I see Protoss on 8 gasses all as fast as possible taken, while T almost mines no gas, or take their gasses so late. | ||
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Pipeline
Sweden1673 Posts
Leenock will be forever alone this GSL :< | ||
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Surriel
United Kingdom198 Posts
On November 16 2011 19:48 Elefanto wrote: Yeah, i've seen MVP for instance do multiple times a 1 Rax Siege Tanks expansion, with a strong 2 base follow up push. That's what i'm talking about, rearrange your fucking builds and search for timings. Protoss won't have storm before min 11 at the earliest. And if he goes for storm first, he won't colossus for a longer time. List goes on and on with the possibilities certain builds open. Watch how MC opens currently. He goes Blink Stalker heavy in the midgame, against MMM. Sounds impossible, yet he arranges the timings and his builds so that it works. You can't tell me TERRAN out of all the three races doesn't have the opportunities to make something in the first 10 minutes happen. Terran shouldn't have any right to complain, i'm sorry. Especially after these games, where the Protoss showed an infinitely bigger understanding of the matchup and soley won through that. Sounds like you want all Terrans to 111 against Protoss. Dont worry, some already do. | ||
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Fionn
United States23455 Posts
On November 16 2011 19:47 pdd wrote: Supernova Polt Nestea Huk Killer He got Leenock and Oz right though, although they should have placed higher, at least Oz (how on earth can you put Killer ahead of Huk and Oz?) Killer got Ro16 last month in Code S + 2-0 this month. He also looked much better than Huk in the Ro32 AND yesterday. Huk was there mostly due to MLG Orlando, going 2-0 in his group and if I didn't put him there, I would have gotten yelled at my TL for being racist against the foreigners. Ganzi's placement was pretty simple. He was doing well in every tournament, semifinal last month, and 2-0'ed a difficult group. You can blame TOP and Supernova on me, though. | ||
Seeker
Where dat snitch at?37055 Posts
I THOUGHT THE DOING LR WAS TIRING BUT UPDATING THIS SHIT IS WIPING ME OUT!!!! T-T | ||
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Porcelina
United Kingdom3249 Posts
On November 16 2011 19:50 SolidMustard wrote: Sorry but someone had to say it : WTF with protoss ? So obviously OP now !!! Sorry but someone had to say it; no one had to say it. | ||
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Montana[TK]
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how2TL
1197 Posts
On November 16 2011 19:50 ineq wrote: MMA has proven he can win a major tournament. There's still a while before atleast i will consider him part of the "Big 3" though. He has more to prove before that. Who else has beaten MVP/Nestea more often in GSL? Even if you consider MVP/Nestea still a bit above him there's no one else who can be considered top 3. No one else has a GSL championship and the record against the IM champions that MMA does. | ||
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