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Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12065 Posts
November 16 2011 10:52 GMT
#801
On November 16 2011 19:50 ineq wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2011 19:48 how2TL wrote:
On November 16 2011 19:47 Montana[TK] wrote:
On November 16 2011 19:45 SafeAsCheese wrote:
How is MMA below MVP?

Their TvZ is equal, and MMA beat MVP in TvT...


Because Mvp is a better player. That's why he's above him.


MMA is top 3 undisputed in my opinion. Your attitude is pretty dickish.



MMA has proven he can win a major tournament. There's still a while before atleast i will consider him part of the "Big 3" though. He has more to prove before that.


Who would you say is the Big 3? MMA has been doing great, I'd say he's definately the second best Terran.
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Zea!
Profile Joined November 2006
9589 Posts
November 16 2011 10:52 GMT
#802
Come on MC,you can do this!
The Real Power~
Onlinejaguar
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia2823 Posts
November 16 2011 10:52 GMT
#803
On November 16 2011 19:50 how2TL wrote:
Hey guys is MC better than MMA because he has twice the championships or does that logic only work for MVP?


lol what are you talking about, MMA is a more well rounded player then MC. MVP is the best in his play and results.
ItsMeDomLee
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada2732 Posts
November 16 2011 10:52 GMT
#804
On November 16 2011 19:48 zyzq wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2011 19:47 parazice wrote:
LOL at Tasteless said Ganzi is 2-tier but he couldn't name a single terran player after Mvp MMA you sure know a lot


when tasteless said 8 or 9, I was like "what?"




Not that outlandish.

1 MVP
2 MMA are easily better.

3 Bomber a bit better

4 Polt
5 MarineKing
6 Gumiho
7 Happy/aLive/Ryung/Taeja/jakji cases can be made for these players being on the same level or better.
Zea!
Profile Joined November 2006
9589 Posts
November 16 2011 10:53 GMT
#805
Started,here we go!
The Real Power~
Imbu
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States903 Posts
November 16 2011 10:53 GMT
#806
On November 16 2011 19:51 Seeker wrote:
OMFG

I THOUGHT THE DOING LR WAS TIRING

BUT UPDATING THIS SHIT IS WIPING ME OUT!!!!

T-T


Thank you for doing it! I never have the courage to do one of these, too afraid I won't be able to keep up/keep it interesting.

Keep going!
@DreamingBird
mordk
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Chile8385 Posts
November 16 2011 10:53 GMT
#807
On November 16 2011 19:50 how2TL wrote:
Hey guys is MC better than MMA because he has twice the championships or does that logic only work for MVP?

Of course he is LOL... MVP isn't better because of his titles, he's better because he's just.... Better.
samurai80
Profile Joined November 2011
Japan4225 Posts
November 16 2011 10:53 GMT
#808
On November 16 2011 19:50 SolidMustard wrote:
Sorry but someone had to say it : WTF with protoss ? So obviously OP now !!!

?? on 5 toss in RO16, we still have 2/5 qualified. It will be 2/5 or 3/5...
how2TL
Profile Joined August 2010
1197 Posts
November 16 2011 10:53 GMT
#809
On November 16 2011 19:52 Onlinejaguar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2011 19:50 how2TL wrote:
Hey guys is MC better than MMA because he has twice the championships or does that logic only work for MVP?


lol what are you talking about, MMA is a more well rounded player then MC. MVP is the best in his play and results.


Yeah I know MMA is better than MC I'm just pointing out a bad argument.
iky43210
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States2099 Posts
November 16 2011 10:53 GMT
#810
MMA could be the best player right now but we wouldn't know until more time since he really hasn't been as good as he is now till not even weeks ago.

jjhchsc2
Profile Joined December 2010
Korea (South)2393 Posts
November 16 2011 10:53 GMT
#811
hoping for a good game
Lee Ssang/ Lee Shin/ Kim Jung Woo/ Kim Min Chul/Jun Tae Yang/Park Soo Ho/Lee Jung Hoon/Choi Sung Hoon/ Moon Sung Won/Park Ji Soo/ Lee Ho Joon/ Jang Min Chul/ Kim Seung Chul/SaSe/IdrA/Ret Fighting! BW4Life
Alvis
Profile Joined July 2011
876 Posts
November 16 2011 10:53 GMT
#812
Is MC still the greatest protoss?
Montana[TK]
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
1624 Posts
November 16 2011 10:53 GMT
#813
On November 16 2011 19:47 parazice wrote:
LOL at Tasteless said Ganzi is 2-tier but he couldn't name a single terran player after Mvp MMA you sure know a lot


Yeah and sC won the 3D tournament lol.
Plexa: "It's not [caster] bashing when its the truth."
9001
Profile Joined May 2011
771 Posts
November 16 2011 10:53 GMT
#814
the curse of top 4 in top 10 is shaping itself! 8D
MSL 2052-2053 WE BELIEVE!
enigamI
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada385 Posts
November 16 2011 10:53 GMT
#815
I've been staying up to watch MVP, here tasteless say "This will be our final game of the day"...
Heart skips a beat, check gomtv schedule, breath sigh of relief. Guess just tastosis isn'tcomentating second group or something?
Fubi
Profile Joined March 2011
2228 Posts
November 16 2011 10:53 GMT
#816
On November 16 2011 19:43 bittman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2011 19:42 Snowbear wrote:
On November 16 2011 19:38 Elefanto wrote:
On November 16 2011 19:35 Snowbear wrote:
On November 16 2011 19:32 bittman wrote:
Once again terran MMM and wonder why their cheap 200 food army loses to an expensive 200 food army =/

The more I watch, the more I wonder when Terran are going to try something more in TvP after Terran players countered Protoss arguments with "need to innovate!" =/


We all want mech to work, but it just doesnt... Why is this so hard to understand? Do you think it's fun to be forced to make MMM, and to know you will lose the battle lategame? I have 20% winrate tvp (high masters) and I lose exactly like these pros. Ask jinro or any other terran pro what he thinks of tvp. He will use the word "joke", I promise you.


You could also rearrange your builds, do something different or in a different order.
We've seen like 10 different PvT variations from protoss, like completely different.

Terran follows always the same scheme.
1 rax fe into 3 rax into reaktor medivac with +1 upgrading into 5 rax armor und second engi and third.

It's always the same scheme. Terran has SO much more potential than that basic build scheme they basically do since
Beta. The sad part is they still dominate TvP with it.


Rearrange the builds? And make what? Tanks? You seriously think that tanks are good in tvp? Banshees? Thors? Ravens? Battlecruisers? All countered by the HT. Explain me what we should make, because I wonder if all pro's don't see what you guys see...


HT counter marines, marauders and ghosts too...soooooooooooooo~? =D?

They're faster to rebuild and are more mobile. So it's more like "choosing the best of the bad ideas" simply because there isn't any better idea atm. The only thing that is somewhat viable for T are Ghosts; but with the recent nerf, and the fact that the top Protosses are learning to hide them in Warp Prisms as well as spreading them better, it's definitely a hard matchup in the meta game for T atm until they figure something out.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
November 16 2011 10:53 GMT
#817
On November 16 2011 19:51 Seeker wrote:
OMFG

I THOUGHT THE DOING LR WAS TIRING

BUT UPDATING THIS SHIT IS WIPING ME OUT!!!!

T-T

Just think of the 50.000 people that will check your hard work.
I had a good night of sleep.
AxionSteel
Profile Joined January 2011
United States7754 Posts
November 16 2011 10:53 GMT
#818
On November 16 2011 19:52 how2TL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2011 19:50 ineq wrote:
On November 16 2011 19:48 how2TL wrote:
On November 16 2011 19:47 Montana[TK] wrote:
On November 16 2011 19:45 SafeAsCheese wrote:
How is MMA below MVP?

Their TvZ is equal, and MMA beat MVP in TvT...


Because Mvp is a better player. That's why he's above him.


MMA is top 3 undisputed in my opinion. Your attitude is pretty dickish.



MMA has proven he can win a major tournament. There's still a while before atleast i will consider him part of the "Big 3" though. He has more to prove before that.


Who else has beaten MVP/Nestea more often in GSL? Even if you consider MVP/Nestea still a bit above him there's no one else who can be considered top 3. No one else has a GSL championship and the record against the IM champions that MMA does.

I'd put MMA 2nd, behind Mvp.
pdd
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia9933 Posts
November 16 2011 10:54 GMT
#819
On November 16 2011 19:49 double620 wrote:
let us be honest. Ganzi's tvp has been improving.

Too little matches to say anything. His only TvP in the last 3 months has been against Killer in Arena of Legends. A win, but that isn't really saying much
TI4 Champions: EE-Sama | B7-God | A-God_2000 | Kappa Lord | pieliedie
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
November 16 2011 10:54 GMT
#820
If MC wins this, there will be zero mirror in ro8. (and only one if MC loses obviously)
This is pretty good.
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