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Scila
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada1849 Posts
November 01 2011 11:52 GMT
#2081
On November 01 2011 20:40 Ramble wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2011 20:38 marttorn wrote:
Why is 2port suddenly imbalanced or just "soo good" when it wins against nestea by a non-legendary terran? ._. gets annoying~

I don't think it's 2port per se, just that if terran is on one base, you have to flip a coin on to which all-in to counter. 4-5rax, SCV allin, 2port banshee, marauder hellion all in or they just expand if you can't scout their natural.


Or you could just....scout?
All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to us.
pdd
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia9933 Posts
November 01 2011 11:52 GMT
#2082
On November 01 2011 20:51 annYeong(o11) wrote:
Can we now say all is fair, a T all-in win and a Z all-in win.

We good?

No. Haven't seen a P all-in and win yet. T and Z imba. Losira can only baneling and roach all-in. Nestea is GOD /sarcasm.
TI4 Champions: EE-Sama | B7-God | A-God_2000 | Kappa Lord | pieliedie
Pajegetc
Profile Joined February 2011
United States3158 Posts
November 01 2011 11:52 GMT
#2083
On November 01 2011 20:51 Awatsu wrote:
now roach rush and baneling bust, should we cry about balance too?


Nah, only zerg can do that silly.

awful game though.
Lose Early game - Cheese. Lose Mid Game - All Ined. Lose Late Game - OMG IMBALANCE. My Guide to Zerg LR.
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
November 01 2011 11:52 GMT
#2084
On November 01 2011 20:51 McBrungus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2011 20:49 marcesr wrote:
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand...another all in.


Yeah? Losira was on 3 bases. In what universe is that considered all in?


no rush 20.
twitch.tv/medrea
Lorch
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany3710 Posts
November 01 2011 11:52 GMT
#2085
@Terrans: A cheesy proxy opening into an allin into another allin timing attack is not equal to losira being on 4 hatches and baneling busting.
PieEater
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden15 Posts
November 01 2011 11:52 GMT
#2086
Remove this STUPID BO1. It is ruining e-sports!
akalarry
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1978 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-01 11:53:34
November 01 2011 11:52 GMT
#2087
On November 01 2011 20:51 HwangjaeTerran wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2011 20:50 clusen wrote:
On November 01 2011 20:48 HwangjaeTerran wrote:
Oh no, it's a baneling bust.
So easy to do and so hard to defend, Oh my god.

Don't go fast port, but add factory unit maybe?


But it's so hard to scout too!

Terran doesn't have handy overlords and scans can't cover everything.
It's so easy for zerg to do, even after a failed roach all-in.


yah how do you scout it when lings have total map control? even if you scan baneling nest, how do you know if it's defensive, or if he's making 20 banelings for a baneling bust?

what if you scan the wrong base and you don't even see the baneling nest? so imba (sarcasm)
Lukeeze[zR]
Profile Joined February 2006
Switzerland6838 Posts
November 01 2011 11:52 GMT
#2088
all-in is an over-used term in this forum
Terran & Potato Salad.
Logros
Profile Joined September 2010
Netherlands9913 Posts
November 01 2011 11:52 GMT
#2089
I'm so happy Protoss has forcefields when I see Terrans get b-busted. It's the best feeling ever to see those banelings coming in and dropping FFs right on their faces to stop the all-in :D.
bokchoi
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Korea (South)9498 Posts
November 01 2011 11:52 GMT
#2090
I don't think I've seen LosirA ever all-in.. especially like that... feels weird.. and dirty...
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-01 11:53:29
November 01 2011 11:52 GMT
#2091
On November 01 2011 20:52 Babru wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2011 20:51 annYeong(o11) wrote:
Can we now say all is fair, a T all-in win and a Z all-in win.

We good?


well the zerg just followed up a lead with a death blow, the terran on the other hand lost the game then came back with an all in.


You know NesTea only had about 12 drones after the rax pressure right?

On November 01 2011 20:52 bokchoi wrote:
I don't think I've seen LosirA ever all-in.. especially like that... feels weird.. and dirty...


he's done it often, baneling busted byun's cc first on this map in their GSL semis
Kira.Yami
Profile Joined April 2010
158 Posts
November 01 2011 11:52 GMT
#2092
On November 01 2011 20:51 Awatsu wrote:
now roach rush and baneling bust, should we cry about balance too?


He went expo first and got scouted asap? and LosirA didn't make a mistaken or tried to all-in?

Are you seriously trying to compare that to Nestea vs. Sc's game? Really?
Push
forsooth
Profile Joined February 2011
United States3648 Posts
November 01 2011 11:52 GMT
#2093
Oh noes, boring, easy to execute baneling bust that's guaranteed to win if not scouted well ahead of time, Zerg imba, so imba. SC2 broken, etc.
Kira__
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden2672 Posts
November 01 2011 11:52 GMT
#2094
On November 01 2011 20:51 annYeong(o11) wrote:
Can we now say all is fair, a T all-in win and a Z all-in win.

We good?


I see what you're trying to say, but the Zerg was on 3 base
The truth is, Yagami-kun, I suspect that you may in fact be Kira.
PredY
Profile Joined September 2009
Czech Republic1731 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-01 11:54:14
November 01 2011 11:52 GMT
#2095
starcraft 2 live report threads and most of general forum theorycrafting threads are a fucking joke. only arguing and whining about balance past 10 page mark

edit: always play to win = allin if needed
http://www.twitch.tv/czelpredy
Amun
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany91 Posts
November 01 2011 11:53 GMT
#2096
only read cc first, unscouted roach warren, baneling bust, gg .........

nice LR
Ansinjunger
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2451 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-01 11:55:29
November 01 2011 11:53 GMT
#2097
On November 01 2011 20:43 dinsim1 wrote:
I don't understand all these clowns saying Nestea should have scouted with an overlord. If you were paying attention at all, you'd have seen that right as the banshees starting building, Nestea sent a ling to the front of the base and an overlord to go inside, but Sc's base was walled off at the front, and marines were waiting for the overlord around the sides. Like a good player, Nestea saved the OV and then pulled it right outside the base to see the banshees right as they exited. Textbook perfect zerg scouting. I'm not arguing anything about Terran cheese, but these people saying that Nestea didn't try to get an OV in base or scout need to get a clue.


No, he didn't try to get in the base. He saw the marines and chose not to sac his overlord. He assumed he would not see anything useful, but he would have.

I hope you're kidding. The overlord would have died before it even saw past the rim of the base buddy, please try it in a custom.


Overlord sight range is way longer than marine attack range.
annYeong(o11)
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Canada784 Posts
November 01 2011 11:53 GMT
#2098
On November 01 2011 20:51 theBizness wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2011 20:51 annYeong(o11) wrote:
Can we now say all is fair, a T all-in win and a Z all-in win.

We good?


... how many bases was he on?


if T held it off Z was screeeeewed after commiting all those larva,

sigh, apparently we're not good
Founder of the KiWiKaKi Fanclub: teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=188537 my keyboard is like half broken. like terran. please ignore typos, thanks
Adreme
Profile Joined June 2011
United States5574 Posts
November 01 2011 11:53 GMT
#2099
On November 01 2011 20:52 Yuriegh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2011 20:48 HwangjaeTerran wrote:
Oh no, it's a baneling bust.
So easy to do and so hard to defend, Oh my god.


Rofl I remember Morrow vs who was it Jinro? in the TSL3 I forget but watching the community blow up over that was halarious. No offense to Jinro


I think it was Julyzerg vs Nada where people really exploded. I remember Nada had like 5 layers of buildings to specifically prevent a baneling bust and July just busted thru it anyway.
habbey
Profile Joined September 2010
United States405 Posts
November 01 2011 11:53 GMT
#2100
On November 01 2011 20:51 McBrungus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2011 20:49 marcesr wrote:
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand...another all in.


Yeah? Losira was on 3 bases. In what universe is that considered all in?


The universe where he only had 45 drones, used all his gas on roaches and banes instead of lair/upgrades, and wasn't mining from the 3rd. It was pretty darn all in.
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