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On November 01 2011 20:40 Ramble wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2011 20:38 marttorn wrote: Why is 2port suddenly imbalanced or just "soo good" when it wins against nestea by a non-legendary terran? ._. gets annoying~ I don't think it's 2port per se, just that if terran is on one base, you have to flip a coin on to which all-in to counter. 4-5rax, SCV allin, 2port banshee, marauder hellion all in or they just expand if you can't scout their natural.
Or you could just....scout?
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On November 01 2011 20:51 annYeong(o11) wrote: Can we now say all is fair, a T all-in win and a Z all-in win.
We good? No. Haven't seen a P all-in and win yet. T and Z imba. Losira can only baneling and roach all-in. Nestea is GOD /sarcasm.
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On November 01 2011 20:51 Awatsu wrote: now roach rush and baneling bust, should we cry about balance too?
Nah, only zerg can do that silly.
awful game though.
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On November 01 2011 20:51 McBrungus wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2011 20:49 marcesr wrote: Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand...another all in. Yeah? Losira was on 3 bases. In what universe is that considered all in?
no rush 20.
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@Terrans: A cheesy proxy opening into an allin into another allin timing attack is not equal to losira being on 4 hatches and baneling busting.
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Remove this STUPID BO1. It is ruining e-sports!
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On November 01 2011 20:51 HwangjaeTerran wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2011 20:50 clusen wrote:On November 01 2011 20:48 HwangjaeTerran wrote: Oh no, it's a baneling bust. So easy to do and so hard to defend, Oh my god. Don't go fast port, but add factory unit maybe? But it's so hard to scout too! Terran doesn't have handy overlords and scans can't cover everything. It's so easy for zerg to do, even after a failed roach all-in.
yah how do you scout it when lings have total map control? even if you scan baneling nest, how do you know if it's defensive, or if he's making 20 banelings for a baneling bust?
what if you scan the wrong base and you don't even see the baneling nest? so imba (sarcasm)
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all-in is an over-used term in this forum
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I'm so happy Protoss has forcefields when I see Terrans get b-busted. It's the best feeling ever to see those banelings coming in and dropping FFs right on their faces to stop the all-in :D.
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I don't think I've seen LosirA ever all-in.. especially like that... feels weird.. and dirty...
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On November 01 2011 20:52 Babru wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2011 20:51 annYeong(o11) wrote: Can we now say all is fair, a T all-in win and a Z all-in win.
We good? well the zerg just followed up a lead with a death blow, the terran on the other hand lost the game then came back with an all in.
You know NesTea only had about 12 drones after the rax pressure right?
On November 01 2011 20:52 bokchoi wrote: I don't think I've seen LosirA ever all-in.. especially like that... feels weird.. and dirty...
he's done it often, baneling busted byun's cc first on this map in their GSL semis
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On November 01 2011 20:51 Awatsu wrote: now roach rush and baneling bust, should we cry about balance too?
He went expo first and got scouted asap? and LosirA didn't make a mistaken or tried to all-in?
Are you seriously trying to compare that to Nestea vs. Sc's game? Really?
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Oh noes, boring, easy to execute baneling bust that's guaranteed to win if not scouted well ahead of time, Zerg imba, so imba. SC2 broken, etc.
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On November 01 2011 20:51 annYeong(o11) wrote: Can we now say all is fair, a T all-in win and a Z all-in win.
We good?
I see what you're trying to say, but the Zerg was on 3 base
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starcraft 2 live report threads and most of general forum theorycrafting threads are a fucking joke. only arguing and whining about balance past 10 page mark
edit: always play to win = allin if needed
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only read cc first, unscouted roach warren, baneling bust, gg .........
nice LR
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On November 01 2011 20:43 dinsim1 wrote: I don't understand all these clowns saying Nestea should have scouted with an overlord. If you were paying attention at all, you'd have seen that right as the banshees starting building, Nestea sent a ling to the front of the base and an overlord to go inside, but Sc's base was walled off at the front, and marines were waiting for the overlord around the sides. Like a good player, Nestea saved the OV and then pulled it right outside the base to see the banshees right as they exited. Textbook perfect zerg scouting. I'm not arguing anything about Terran cheese, but these people saying that Nestea didn't try to get an OV in base or scout need to get a clue.
No, he didn't try to get in the base. He saw the marines and chose not to sac his overlord. He assumed he would not see anything useful, but he would have.
I hope you're kidding. The overlord would have died before it even saw past the rim of the base buddy, please try it in a custom.
Overlord sight range is way longer than marine attack range.
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On November 01 2011 20:51 theBizness wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2011 20:51 annYeong(o11) wrote: Can we now say all is fair, a T all-in win and a Z all-in win.
We good? ... how many bases was he on?
if T held it off Z was screeeeewed after commiting all those larva,
sigh, apparently we're not good
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On November 01 2011 20:52 Yuriegh wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2011 20:48 HwangjaeTerran wrote: Oh no, it's a baneling bust. So easy to do and so hard to defend, Oh my god. Rofl I remember Morrow vs who was it Jinro? in the TSL3 I forget but watching the community blow up over that was halarious. No offense to Jinro
I think it was Julyzerg vs Nada where people really exploded. I remember Nada had like 5 layers of buildings to specifically prevent a baneling bust and July just busted thru it anyway.
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On November 01 2011 20:51 McBrungus wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2011 20:49 marcesr wrote: Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand...another all in. Yeah? Losira was on 3 bases. In what universe is that considered all in?
The universe where he only had 45 drones, used all his gas on roaches and banes instead of lair/upgrades, and wasn't mining from the 3rd. It was pretty darn all in.
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