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The 10 000 dollar invitational Starcraft 2 tournament, ASUS ROG Stars Invite, calls for two more familiar faces to the scene as TotalBiscuit and Apollo are announced as casters for the action packed weekend starting at 4th of November.
The last ASUS ROG Starcraft 2 tournament at ASSEMBLY Summer was a blast. Partly because of the dynamic duo sitting behind the mics raising the entertainment value of the event a great deal. Who else could you imagine casting the  Stephano vs  BRAT_OK game in Testbug where a spine crawler rush is being dealt with battle cruisers? It’s fair to say, these guys have talent.
The lead voice in our familiar casting duo is none other than TotalBiscuit, the Cynical TotalHalibruit, the one guy in the StarCraft 2 scene you will never want to challenge to a tongue twister duel. While his in-game actions per minute might not be world class, his words per minute certainly is, and his play-by-play can leave you staring breathless at the game, even if all that is going on at the time is a scout probe stealing five minerals.
Balancing out the duo is fittingly the ancient god of poetry and knowledge, Apollo, who brings on the deeper insight of a long-running RTS veteran and overall steadiness to the broadcast. Coincidentally Apollo is also the only StarCraft 2 caster that has beaten a Finnish tournament admin in a 1vs1 match, and that alone speaks volumes about his competence.
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really nice, good casting duo. 
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briton overload
but srsli, nice.
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Apollo is the best caster after Tastosis. It will be a great tournament.
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My favorite casting duo outside of Tasetosis! Glad to see TB and Apollo getting more and more tournaments to cast, they are extremely entertaining and I always enjoy their casts. :D
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This just made it worth watching!!! <3 TB! :D
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Amazing duo!! they cast perfect together.
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This is going to be great. Happy to see people are starting to appreciate this duo.
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Whats with D. Apollo's portrait? That looks so unlike him hah
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Lol totalbiscut is the shiiiiiznet! this is going to be awesome!
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Apollo doesn't look like that at all. :O
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looking forward to hearing Apollo! Seems like such a chill guy...
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Rather watch paint dry.
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Cool for Apollo, Meh @ TB.
Will still watch though probably
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On October 29 2011 07:32 Randulfr wrote:
Rather watch paint dry.
It's difficult, because you want to watch to see the players you want to see, but you also have to tolerate the casters.
It's not an ideal position.
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On October 29 2011 07:35 Hnnngg wrote:It's difficult, because you want to watch to see the players you want to see, but you also have to tolerate the casters. It's not an ideal position.
It's a bit like reading TL threads I guess.
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Sweet. I like them togeter. TB as entertainer and apollo bringing the analyse part.
I LIKE.
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Nice, I really like TB with Apollo casting
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And I KNEW IT and told ya they are gonna be casting ! FUcking awesome ! This year is sick for StarCraft 2 !!!!
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Hehe, hardly a surprise to anyone but welcome news nonetheless!
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I could watch bronze league players if Apollo casts it!
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I really like Apollo as a caster. It's great watching him progress as one.
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2 of my favorite casters!! Nice!
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On October 29 2011 07:32 Randulfr wrote:
Rather watch paint dry.
They should just have HD and TB cast together one of these days
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Would be nice to see unconstructive whining get temp bans as it does in live-report threads.
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Apollo is really a great commentator i would go as far as to rate him as top 2 - 3 sc2 commentator, not feeling the same about Total Biscuit though.
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Id say the standards for live-reports are lower than of any other threads and none of these posts would be ban-worthy in that case
the feedback in this thread seems pretty damn positive overall
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The most professional casting duo out there. Though Tastosis are the most recognized, they lack commitment and professionalism compared to TB and Apollo. Great to have them cast Asus Rog.
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On October 29 2011 08:37 kiy0 wrote:
The most professional casting duo out there. Though Tastosis are the most recognized, they lack commitment and professionalism compared to TB and Apollo. Great to have them cast Asus Rog.
I can't say I agree with you there. Especially regarding the "commitment" that Tastosis supposedly lack. Just wait until the "Sons of Starcraft" documentary comes out, then you'll see. I don't even know the half of it, but the stuff I do know about what they (Artosis especially) went through to get to where they are now is mind blowing. The anecdotes I've heard from the former BW players from America (on streams/shows etc) all speak to Artosis having gone through a lot to get to where he is. Sleeping on people's couches, floors etc.
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On October 29 2011 08:28 Kompicek wrote:
Apollo is really a great commentator i would go as far as to rate him as top 2 - 3 sc2 commentator, not feeling the same about Total Biscuit though.
I really do enjoy Apollo. He's always great and deserves all the credit he gets (and then some). I don't want to be too harsh, but I don't really get anything from TB. He has a very particular style of commentary that I know a lot of people enjoy, but it doesn't really work for me.
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I'm curious as to which finnish admin mr apollo defeated? hmm... 
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On October 29 2011 07:36 Full.tilt wrote:Show nested quote +On October 29 2011 07:35 Hnnngg wrote:On October 29 2011 07:32 Randulfr wrote:
Rather watch paint dry. It's difficult, because you want to watch to see the players you want to see, but you also have to tolerate the casters. It's not an ideal position. It's a bit like reading TL threads I guess.
hahahahaha what a comeback. Nice.
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Awwwww yeah! This event is looking very impressive with the amazing players and now the casters... although I really don't know if you need a thread for each particular announcement. If every tournament did this then it would be terrible (though it obviously does help with publicity). :-/ Meh, still looking forward to the event!
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Great caster duo. Can't wait to watch!
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One of the sickest casting duos. The voice and the hype paired with the knowledge and the...charm...
okay enough bromancing over apollo srsly
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But he's so bromance-able  .
Apollo is probably my favourite caster though. TB is ok I guess but would have preferred the Day9 + Apollo combo we've had a few times so far.
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I really like this casting duo. Looking forward to the event!
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Love you Apollo, but damn i cannot stand TotalBiscuit. Going to be a good event reguardless.
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apollo isa a great caster
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TB bleh.
Apollo yessssss.
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Tournament which rounds up Bitter, Rotterdam, Apollo and TB would outdo MLG in terms of caster awesomeness.
Just sayin'. 
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Hahaha they're going to get destroyed so badly.
Wait, you meant as casters?
Oooooohhhh
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On October 29 2011 10:20 Gackt_ wrote:
why these two? :/
Because they are two of the best casters? I can´t listen to most casters beside Tastosis because it´s too boring. But I can listen to TB even if he live casts an old woman crossing the street.
In the end it doesn´t even matters Everybody has his favourite, and if someone really have to complain about something, why not at the tourneys homepage? But much more fun here I guess...
Amazing line-up and casters, good luck with the tourney!
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i love totalbiscuit! i dont understand why people don't like him. i guess there will always be certain people who dont like certain casters im super excited to watch this tourny now!! HUK FIGHTING!!!!
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On October 29 2011 08:40 Frogsox wrote:Show nested quote +On October 29 2011 08:37 kiy0 wrote:
The most professional casting duo out there. Though Tastosis are the most recognized, they lack commitment and professionalism compared to TB and Apollo. Great to have them cast Asus Rog. I can't say I agree with you there. Especially regarding the "commitment" that Tastosis supposedly lack. Just wait until the "Sons of Starcraft" documentary comes out, then you'll see. I don't even know the half of it, but the stuff I do know about what they (Artosis especially) went through to get to where they are now is mind blowing. The anecdotes I've heard from the former BW players from America (on streams/shows etc) all speak to Artosis having gone through a lot to get to where he is. Sleeping on people's couches, floors etc.
TB and Apollo don't go on 5m ramparts talking about a lollypop they tasted in High School. This is what I mean about professionalism. Tastosis is the best outside the GSL (take their MLG Orlando or Blizzcon performances for example). In GSL I simply mute the cast the moment they get off topic, which is generally after 30s.
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One of the best casting duo in eSports right now. Anyone who says otherwise is clearly in denial.
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I guess I understand some of the dislike of either TB's accent or his game knowledge... BUT he's able to bring excitement to anything (I was entertained by him casting Paragon wiping repeatedly on some WoW content I've never heard of).
Add Apollo and you've got a very rounded team. For those that haven't seen them cast, their chemistry is second only to the archon itself (imo). Also, they're a well known casting duo in Europe so probably relatively easy to book (they also did the ROG tournament at ASSEMBLY summer).
+ Show Spoiler +I do miss some of the more "informative" casts that were prevalent when sc2 was newer..
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On October 29 2011 10:56 vtbarrera wrote:
One of the best casting duo in eSports right now. Anyone who says otherwise is clearly in denial.
Tastosis, day9 and djwheat, K9, day9 and apollo > total biscuit and apollo
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On October 29 2011 10:59 BoomNasty wrote:Show nested quote +On October 29 2011 10:56 vtbarrera wrote:
One of the best casting duo in eSports right now. Anyone who says otherwise is clearly in denial. Tastosis, day9 and djwheat, K9, day9 and apollo > total biscuit and apollo
I'd give some love to BitterDam as well. I think MrBitter and Rotterdam are two of the most underrated casters and one of the most genuinely entertaining duos out there. They have great chemistry with each other which is a very important trait to have when casting long shows where you have to be on all the time. Also, the "Grass..." show they just completed has really improved their casting of their off races as well and I feel that as they move through the Terran-centric show they'll become even more well rounded.
I don't want to be too down on TB and Apollo, it's just that there are a lot of really good casters out there and to try and put one above the other is really hard.
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On October 29 2011 11:06 Frogsox wrote:Show nested quote +On October 29 2011 10:59 BoomNasty wrote:On October 29 2011 10:56 vtbarrera wrote:
One of the best casting duo in eSports right now. Anyone who says otherwise is clearly in denial. Tastosis, day9 and djwheat, K9, day9 and apollo > total biscuit and apollo I'd give some love to BitterDam as well. I think MrBitter and Rotterdam are two of the most underrated casters and one of the most genuinely entertaining duos out there. They have great chemistry with each other which is a very important trait to have when casting long shows where you have to be on all the time. Also, the "Grass..." show they just completed has really improved their casting of their off races as well and I feel that as they move through the Terran-centric show they'll become even more well rounded. I don't want to be too down on TB and Apollo, it's just that there are a lot of really good casters out there and to try and put one above the other is really hard.
I didn't feel like writing out all the casting duos that are better, so i only put down 4. But yes, those two are good as well
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Apollo! Yayyyy!
TotalBiscut! Semi-Yayyyyy!
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fuck yeah Apollo! He is just great.
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On October 29 2011 11:13 BoomNasty wrote:Show nested quote +On October 29 2011 11:06 Frogsox wrote:On October 29 2011 10:59 BoomNasty wrote:On October 29 2011 10:56 vtbarrera wrote:
One of the best casting duo in eSports right now. Anyone who says otherwise is clearly in denial. Tastosis, day9 and djwheat, K9, day9 and apollo > total biscuit and apollo I'd give some love to BitterDam as well. I think MrBitter and Rotterdam are two of the most underrated casters and one of the most genuinely entertaining duos out there. They have great chemistry with each other which is a very important trait to have when casting long shows where you have to be on all the time. Also, the "Grass..." show they just completed has really improved their casting of their off races as well and I feel that as they move through the Terran-centric show they'll become even more well rounded. I don't want to be too down on TB and Apollo, it's just that there are a lot of really good casters out there and to try and put one above the other is really hard. I didn't feel like writing out all the casting duos that are better, so i only put down 4. But yes, those two are good as well
That's fair enough. :D
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Lol. beating Finnish tourney admin = instant credibility!
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Apollo <3
Tb </3 I somehow can't stand his casting but I'm trying ;d
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1.) Play the game. Nothing annoys me more than someone who advertises himself as a caster, only to later reveal that he plays the game at a gold level. I'm sorry guys, but you have to understand the game if you're going to talk about it. As a caster, it is your responsibility to sell StarCraft 2 to your audience. A gold league player selling SC2 to an audience is asking to buy a Rolex on the streets in Chinatown.
Mr. Bitter
Look forward to the games nonetheless. GL TB.
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On October 29 2011 10:54 kiy0 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 29 2011 08:40 Frogsox wrote:On October 29 2011 08:37 kiy0 wrote:
The most professional casting duo out there. Though Tastosis are the most recognized, they lack commitment and professionalism compared to TB and Apollo. Great to have them cast Asus Rog. I can't say I agree with you there. Especially regarding the "commitment" that Tastosis supposedly lack. Just wait until the "Sons of Starcraft" documentary comes out, then you'll see. I don't even know the half of it, but the stuff I do know about what they (Artosis especially) went through to get to where they are now is mind blowing. The anecdotes I've heard from the former BW players from America (on streams/shows etc) all speak to Artosis having gone through a lot to get to where he is. Sleeping on people's couches, floors etc. TB and Apollo don't go on 5m ramparts talking about a lollypop they tasted in High School. This is what I mean about professionalism. Tastosis is the best outside the GSL (take their MLG Orlando or Blizzcon performances for example). In GSL I simply mute the cast the moment they get off topic, which is generally after 30s.
They go off topic ALL THE TIME except, unlike Tastosis, they aren't entertaining/funny at all. The fact you call them professional is really surprising, as their casts are some of the most unprofessional and sloppy casts I've seen when it comes to high level sc2 casting.I really dislike TB's casting, Apollo is a good analytical caster, but isn't very entertaining. And honestly, the off-topic discussions of Tastosis is why their GSL casts are much better than their MLG casts imo, I've seen and played through 1 rax expands a billion times, I'd rather listen to something entertaining rather than have the build explained to me for the 200th time.
Obviously this is all opinions though.
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Apollo one of the best casters out there and a joy to listen to, tb is annoying, wish there was another.
Either way will be some fantastic games to watch.
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Eh, I would've prefered djWHEAT to TB, even if it isn't as if I hate TB or anything. He works well with Apollo but I liked djWHEAT+Apollo combo more at IPL3.
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Good choise TB and apollo great combo
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My least favorite caster with my most favorite caster....ah well. Should be balanced enough
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great combo, though I'm still waiting for someone to make my wet dreams (apollo + tasteless duo cast) come true
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I really like Apollo. Can't stand Totalbiscuit.
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On October 29 2011 16:21 sirreginold wrote:
I really like Apollo. Can't stand Totalbiscuit.
completely agree, apollo is a competent caster, smart and strategic, totalbiscuit is just too much to handle for me personally, although he is very noob friendly, which i am not.
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Never heard them together, but I adore TB for his unique style and I always enjoyed Apollo alongside Day9, so they can't be bad together.
Also, two Brits, so I won't have to hear the annoying American accent
Also nr. 2: stop shitting on our casters, regardless who they are.
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Really enjoy both of them and they do make a good duo so looking forward to it. Also would like to see if any of the TB haters can do better than him.
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On October 29 2011 05:18 Kevan wrote:
Apollo is the best caster after Tastosis. It will be a great tournament.
Lol Not a chance
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Looking forward too it, they are a good duo.
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I, for one, enjoy some Biscuit&Apollo.
Also, why do these topics always end up comparing the casters and spewing hate.
It's cool, if you don't like them don't watch them, but why do we have to read it?
I can't come up with any caster about whom i would say "I can't stand him". I enjoy some more some less but they never take away from my enjoyment of the game. Do I have a high threshold or something? Or do other posters have it too low?
Easily annoyed posters are annoying.
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Yay for Totalbiscuit! Apollo brings the analysis while TB brings the personality.
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I dont get the hate bandwagon going on this topic.
Most people dont realize that TB isnt an analyst caster. Hes a shoutcaster, thats what he does best, and thats why hes with Dapollo. They complement each other.
I love both, same way i love Tastosis, Bitterdam and Wolfdoa.
Just because a caster duo isnt Tastosis, most people simply hate it. I dont get it.
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Fuck yeah, my favorite casting duo after Tastosis.
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Wow awesome :D another tourney with TB and Apollo. Definitely some of the best ones , but only hearing the same people all the time would be boooring too
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Yeah awesome! I really like TB and Apollo
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On October 29 2011 18:26 Bashion wrote:
I dont get the hate bandwagon going on this topic.
Most people dont realize that TB isnt an analyst caster. Hes a shoutcaster, thats what he does best, and thats why hes with Dapollo. They complement each other.
I love both, same way i love Tastosis, Bitterdam and Wolfdoa.
Just because a caster duo isnt Tastosis, most people simply hate it. I dont get it.
Haters gonna hate.
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On October 29 2011 18:26 Bashion wrote:
I dont get the hate bandwagon going on this topic.
Most people dont realize that TB isnt an analyst caster. Hes a shoutcaster, thats what he does best, and thats why hes with Dapollo. They complement each other.
I love both, same way i love Tastosis, Bitterdam and Wolfdoa.
Just because a caster duo isnt Tastosis, most people simply hate it. I dont get it.
I do realise he's not the analyst in the duo, but I still don't find his style entertaining. I don't mind if other do, that's their cup of tea and they can have it as they like.
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On October 29 2011 19:37 Frogsox wrote:Show nested quote +On October 29 2011 18:26 Bashion wrote:
I dont get the hate bandwagon going on this topic.
Most people dont realize that TB isnt an analyst caster. Hes a shoutcaster, thats what he does best, and thats why hes with Dapollo. They complement each other.
I love both, same way i love Tastosis, Bitterdam and Wolfdoa.
Just because a caster duo isnt Tastosis, most people simply hate it. I dont get it. I do realise he's not the analyst in the duo, but I still don't find his style entertaining. I don't mind if other do, that's their cup of tea and they can have it as they like.
Agree, I can't like his style, even if I try. Mostly because he always speaks over the other caster, who always has better things to say...
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Apollo is great, TB, not as good... would be really cool to see some other caster from UK making it into the scene^^ Will be a great tournament nonetheless !
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Obvious choices. 
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Apollo really impressed people during IPL3, And rightly so because he is amazing!
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I like Apollo......
Too bad no Day9/Apollo duo, those two make an especially entertaining/informative casting pair.
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Yes Apollo!! should be a good event
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Such a great casting duo. Looking forward to it !
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will be great to see apollo casting again, I really enjoyed listening to him cast at IPL, as well as dreamhack
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On October 29 2011 20:07 Swap wrote:Show nested quote +On October 29 2011 19:37 Frogsox wrote:On October 29 2011 18:26 Bashion wrote:
I dont get the hate bandwagon going on this topic.
Most people dont realize that TB isnt an analyst caster. Hes a shoutcaster, thats what he does best, and thats why hes with Dapollo. They complement each other.
I love both, same way i love Tastosis, Bitterdam and Wolfdoa.
Just because a caster duo isnt Tastosis, most people simply hate it. I dont get it. I do realise he's not the analyst in the duo, but I still don't find his style entertaining. I don't mind if other do, that's their cup of tea and they can have it as they like. Agree, I can't like his style, even if I try. Mostly because he always speaks over the other caster, who always has better things to say...
Sigh, this kind of feedback is frustrating because it's simply not true. It's hard to improve when the feedback you're being given is inaccurate.
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I like both Apollo and TB so this is great news.
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On October 29 2011 05:36 (Kaiser) wrote:
go go TotalApollo
I am totally going to call them that from now on!
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I´m loving it
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Very excited. Not only are TB and Apollo a great casting team, but the last Asus ROG event was awesome. Looking forward to it.
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Good news imho. Apollo's casting gets better with every tournament and he has a solid grasp on the mechanics/metagame.
TB....not quite as knowledgeable, but he talks the talk and is a great PbP guy
Don't get the hate at all
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On October 29 2011 23:06 Zealously wrote:I am totally going to call them that from now on!
I wish we had a better archon name but there isn't one.
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TotalBiscuit doesn't really know much about the game. He might as well not even bothered to show up.
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On October 29 2011 21:57 TotalBiscuit wrote:Show nested quote +On October 29 2011 20:07 Swap wrote:On October 29 2011 19:37 Frogsox wrote:On October 29 2011 18:26 Bashion wrote:
I dont get the hate bandwagon going on this topic.
Most people dont realize that TB isnt an analyst caster. Hes a shoutcaster, thats what he does best, and thats why hes with Dapollo. They complement each other.
I love both, same way i love Tastosis, Bitterdam and Wolfdoa.
Just because a caster duo isnt Tastosis, most people simply hate it. I dont get it. I do realise he's not the analyst in the duo, but I still don't find his style entertaining. I don't mind if other do, that's their cup of tea and they can have it as they like. Agree, I can't like his style, even if I try. Mostly because he always speaks over the other caster, who always has better things to say... Sigh, this kind of feedback is frustrating because it's simply not true. It's hard to improve when the feedback you're being given is inaccurate.
I do respect your effort for esports, and I don’t think you’re a bad commentator. But no, you’re not my favorite at this moment, and most of us compares with our favorites
Anyway,I will try to give you some more accurate critics, to explain, from my own perspective and my own preferences only of course.
You do seem to lack some in-depth Starcraft 2 knowledge that many other commentators have. But that can be somewhat fine, alongside for example Apollo you can be the entertainer while he provides more analysis. Same as Tasteless (more entertaining) and Artosis (more analyzing) in some ways.
In my opinion, often the analyzing guy should have more room than the entertaining guy. Because Starcraft 2 is a game that often is all about small changes in strategies, small skirmishes, which become interesting for the audience if someone provides an in-depth view that we can’t always comprehend ourselves.
What I don’t like that much about your commentating is that you often speak about those small situations and changes in your “entertaining way” when (for example) Apollo could provide something more interesting, in-depth. This combined with your great voice gives me the feeling that you “take over” a little bit too much.
I would like you to be a little more laid back in most situations and give more room to you co-commentator, and use your great voice and entertaining style in those parts of the games that are truly exciting like big battles and such. I do think that this balance is something that makes Tasteless and Artosis so good. (Then there are always Day9, who can do both roles by himself sometimes ^^). Of course, it wouldn’t hurt if you improved your game knowledge a little bit
Hopefully I was a little more accurate now, explaining my view. As a said, I don’t think you’re a bad commentator, I listen to most of the events you commentate with pleasure. But for now, you’re one the “famous commentators” (I could say some of the above about for example Husky as well) that I do think could do with some improvement. Keep your efforts up and you probably will improve, in one way or another!
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On October 30 2011 00:04 eaglesupersonic wrote:
TotalBiscuit doesn't really know much about the game. He might as well not even bothered to show up.
You have two "quality" posts... shouldn't have bothered making an account.
TB provides excellent PbP and paired with dApollo's insight they provide a very good cast. Like many things, It's a matter of tast.
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On October 30 2011 00:04 eaglesupersonic wrote:
TotalBiscuit doesn't really know much about the game. He might as well not even bothered to show up.
There is a reason he won Blizzard shoutcasting competition you know, game knowledge isn't everything. Please, in future, don't be so ignorant.
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On October 30 2011 00:18 jnc wrote:Show nested quote +On October 30 2011 00:04 eaglesupersonic wrote:
TotalBiscuit doesn't really know much about the game. He might as well not even bothered to show up. You have two "quality" posts... shouldn't have bothered making an account. TB provides excellent PbP and paired with dApollo's insight they provide a very good cast. Like many things, It's a matter of tast.
You're just angry. TB does in fact no nothing about the game itself rather rambles on like the cynical person he is.
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I find this casting duo entertaining and that is what it is ment to be
Looking forward to seeing you guys at i44
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On October 30 2011 00:29 eaglesupersonic wrote:Show nested quote +On October 30 2011 00:18 jnc wrote:On October 30 2011 00:04 eaglesupersonic wrote:
TotalBiscuit doesn't really know much about the game. He might as well not even bothered to show up. You have two "quality" posts... shouldn't have bothered making an account. TB provides excellent PbP and paired with dApollo's insight they provide a very good cast. Like many things, It's a matter of tast. You're just angry. TB does in fact no nothing about the game itself rather rambles on like the cynical person he is.
I am angry that people think it's okay to just hate bash something that's not their preference. Different people like different casting styles. Nothing wrong with muting the stream (or not watching) if you strongly dislike the caster.
... and what do you "no" about casting?
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On October 30 2011 00:18 jnc wrote:Show nested quote +On October 30 2011 00:04 eaglesupersonic wrote:
TotalBiscuit doesn't really know much about the game. He might as well not even bothered to show up. You have two "quality" posts... shouldn't have bothered making an account. TB provides excellent PbP and paired with dApollo's insight they provide a very good cast. Like many things, It's a matter of tast.
He's also the best at injecting hype into a live audience.
Regular casters: "Make some noise for IMMVP guys."
TB: "And in the blue trunks, representing team IM, representing South Korea, the game genie Terran, the 3-Time GSL champion, the reigning Blizzcon champion, regarded by many as THE BEST TERRAN IN THE WOOOOOOOOOOOOOORLLD! IT, IS, IM'S M-V-P!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
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whos taht guy in the picture under TB?
i though appolo was supposed to be there :3
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looks like a 'shopped dApollo.
and lol at the hate for total biscuit. we all have our own tastes. i just find it funny how vocal people "hate" others. this is the internet and we can all be knowledgeable.
but meh this post won't even stop the haters hate and fanboys love. let's just wait for the games and see what they're up to.
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I like!
IMO the only thing they lack is the humor/jokes which are sometimes hit and miss compared to tastosis
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Awesome stuff, TB has done more for the gaming community and esports scene then any of the 'haters' in the thread combined, you guys should spend your efforts doing something constructive. For those who miss an informative link, here's the Liquipedia page. I think it's gonna be a final between HuK and Idra. Nice round up anyway, HYPED!
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Nice casting duo! Should be fun!
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awesome, Apollo is good stuff.
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what about 2GD ?... where is 2GD?
Apollo and 2GD casting Grubbys invitational was so much more enjoyable ..;..;
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I know for a fact that when i first heard about this event I was pfft just another Starcraft Invitational with the same players who are always invited, but seeing Apollo and Total Biscuit casting this I can say I will do my best to turn in.
<3 Apollo and total Biscuit casting.
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TB has a very unique casting style, his casts are much more entertaining than 90% of the other casters out there.
To the trolls bashing on TB, you should go hide under a bridge and think about how much the guy does for the community before posting stupid stuff.
<3 Apollo and Totalbiscuit
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Nice, I enjoy these guys casting. Tasteosis can't cast everything.
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On October 30 2011 00:49 Novalisk wrote:Show nested quote +On October 30 2011 00:18 jnc wrote:On October 30 2011 00:04 eaglesupersonic wrote:
TotalBiscuit doesn't really know much about the game. He might as well not even bothered to show up. You have two "quality" posts... shouldn't have bothered making an account. TB provides excellent PbP and paired with dApollo's insight they provide a very good cast. Like many things, It's a matter of tast. He's also the best at injecting hype into a live audience. Regular casters: "Make some noise for IMMVP guys." TB: "And in the blue trunks, representing team IM, representing South Korea, the game genie Terran, the 3-Time GSL champion, the reigning Blizzcon champion, regarded by many as THE BEST TERRAN IN THE WOOOOOOOOOOOOOORLLD! IT, IS, IM'S M-V-P!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
To be honest, that kind of spiel is one of the reasons I don't enjoy his casting. I don't particularly enjoy the long, ring announcer style deployed at the beginnings of games because it becomes very long winded and a little hackneyed the further into a tournament we progress. Also, it's all very general information that's being spent all at once. I notice that your "regular" caster is similar to the introduction that Tasteless was using towards the end of the GSL finals, and I have a counter argument to that.
All the information that TB lays out in the first 30 seconds is kind of wasted since he doesn't really build upon it. Conversely, those points (be it the championships, team alignment etc) are also covered by other casters. However, the difference is that the information is discussed in more depth and relevance to the match at times when the action is low so as to not interrupt the action and be available to fill the time. For example, during lulls in games Tastosis will discuss the effect a player's team has on their playstyle etc, or the previous championships they've won and how it happened.
I don't have a problem with TB personally or the people who enjoy his work, that's your cup of tea and you can have it as you like. However, I'm just trying to illustrate the reasons why I don't enjoy his style compared to other casters.
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On October 29 2011 23:46 TotalBiscuit wrote:Show nested quote +On October 29 2011 23:06 Zealously wrote:On October 29 2011 05:36 (Kaiser) wrote:
go go TotalApollo I am totally going to call them that from now on! I wish we had a better archon name but there isn't one.
Abiscuit?
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Great duo! Will definitely make time to watch!
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On October 30 2011 03:21 Frogsox wrote:Show nested quote +On October 30 2011 00:49 Novalisk wrote:On October 30 2011 00:18 jnc wrote:On October 30 2011 00:04 eaglesupersonic wrote:
TotalBiscuit doesn't really know much about the game. He might as well not even bothered to show up. You have two "quality" posts... shouldn't have bothered making an account. TB provides excellent PbP and paired with dApollo's insight they provide a very good cast. Like many things, It's a matter of tast. He's also the best at injecting hype into a live audience. Regular casters: "Make some noise for IMMVP guys." TB: "And in the blue trunks, representing team IM, representing South Korea, the game genie Terran, the 3-Time GSL champion, the reigning Blizzcon champion, regarded by many as THE BEST TERRAN IN THE WOOOOOOOOOOOOOORLLD! IT, IS, IM'S M-V-P!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" To be honest, that kind of spiel is one of the reasons I don't enjoy his casting. I don't particularly enjoy the long, ring announcer style deployed at the beginnings of games because it becomes very long winded and a little hackneyed the further into a tournament we progress. Also, it's all very general information that's being spent all at once. I notice that your "regular" caster is similar to the introduction that Tasteless was using towards the end of the GSL finals, and I have a counter argument to that. All the information that TB lays out in the first 30 seconds is kind of wasted since he doesn't really build upon it. Conversely, those points (be it the championships, team alignment etc) are also covered by other casters. However, the difference is that the information is discussed in more depth and relevance to the match at times when the action is low so as to not interrupt the action and be available to fill the time. For example, during lulls in games Tastosis will discuss the effect a player's team has on their playstyle etc, or the previous championships they've won and how it happened. I don't have a problem with TB personally or the people who enjoy his work, that's your cup of tea and you can have it as you like. However, I'm just trying to illustrate the reasons why I don't enjoy his style compared to other casters.
The whole point is to get the crowd pumped before the action starts. That type of information is common knowledge, and has little to no place during a match. If there's a lull mid-game or before the game, you bring out statistics, possible strategies, etc. And that's something Apollo does quite well.
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They are possibly one of the best casting duo's besides for Tastosis. I am quite looking forward to this event, and with them casting it should prove to be great.
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On October 30 2011 03:40 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:Show nested quote +On October 29 2011 23:46 TotalBiscuit wrote:On October 29 2011 23:06 Zealously wrote:On October 29 2011 05:36 (Kaiser) wrote:
go go TotalApollo I am totally going to call them that from now on! I wish we had a better archon name but there isn't one. Abiscuit?
I feel that would devalue Apollo's contribution to the team somewhat
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Well Apollo Biscuit is out since a company is called Apollo Biscuits :<, But good luck with ROG tournament i will be turning in for it :D
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wathing with mute again -_______- thanks tb.....
User was warned for this post
so its illegal to say ur opions nowadays in TL
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+ Show Spoiler +On October 30 2011 03:40 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:Show nested quote +On October 29 2011 23:46 TotalBiscuit wrote:On October 29 2011 23:06 Zealously wrote:On October 29 2011 05:36 (Kaiser) wrote:
go go TotalApollo I am totally going to call them that from now on! I wish we had a better archon name but there isn't one. Abiscuit?
Ha, that's awesome. Abiscuit is casting. done and done. This just makes the tourney that much more awesome.
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Nice Apollo and djwheat casting ftw
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On October 30 2011 03:40 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:Show nested quote +On October 29 2011 23:46 TotalBiscuit wrote:On October 29 2011 23:06 Zealously wrote:On October 29 2011 05:36 (Kaiser) wrote:
go go TotalApollo I am totally going to call them that from now on! I wish we had a better archon name but there isn't one. Abiscuit?
I think Totalapollo for sure, casue you know total comes from TotalBiscuit
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Tb and Apollo! Very nice! TB is a super cool guy, i hope him the best
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<3 TB! Will watch this entirely beacuse of him casting it! Who doesn't get entertained by him? must bee a very small minority, since he had a huge YouTube chanel, and his own invitational had lost of views.... ( BTW, I whould sell my house for you to cast starcraft with Jessie Cox)
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Nice,
Apollo is one of my fav casters.
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On October 30 2011 06:35 themoo_ wrote:
Nice Apollo and djwheat casting ftw
WHAT? :DD:D
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love this combo, apollo just works with anyone and TB is just freakin hilarious! used to not like him but after watching him realised he is probably one of the funniest casters out there!
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Haters gonna hate. These threads are always full of people with 1 post trolling TB haha. As many others have said, TB really grew on me and I think hes a great caster. Apollo has great knowledge and great reads as well, amazing combo.
If you wanted to give anyone a reason not to sign up to teamliquid, this thread would do the job lol.
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On October 30 2011 04:39 TotalBiscuit wrote:Show nested quote +On October 30 2011 03:40 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:On October 29 2011 23:46 TotalBiscuit wrote:On October 29 2011 23:06 Zealously wrote:On October 29 2011 05:36 (Kaiser) wrote:
go go TotalApollo I am totally going to call them that from now on! I wish we had a better archon name but there isn't one. Abiscuit? I feel that would devalue Apollo's contribution to the team somewhat
On the other hand his name/letter comes first. Thats got to count for something. And Abiscuit sounds alot better imo!
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Happy to hear this, will be watching live!!
After the last two Assemblies it's hard to imagine anyone else doing this. They set a standard for finnish tournaments that will probably remain unmatched.
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On October 30 2011 03:40 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:Show nested quote +On October 29 2011 23:46 TotalBiscuit wrote:On October 29 2011 23:06 Zealously wrote:On October 29 2011 05:36 (Kaiser) wrote:
go go TotalApollo I am totally going to call them that from now on! I wish we had a better archon name but there isn't one. Abiscuit?
and the correct answer was Tapollo, the T is more definitive at the start, and it flows better , sorry
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...his words per minute certainly is, and his play-by-play can leave you staring breathless at the game, even if all that is going on at the time is a scout probe stealing five minerals.
Grudgematch with Klazart?
Jokes aside, those two make a really good casting duo archon, TB's voice is spectacular.
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On October 30 2011 18:24 firehand101 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 30 2011 03:40 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:On October 29 2011 23:46 TotalBiscuit wrote:On October 29 2011 23:06 Zealously wrote:On October 29 2011 05:36 (Kaiser) wrote:
go go TotalApollo I am totally going to call them that from now on! I wish we had a better archon name but there isn't one. Abiscuit? and the correct answer was Tapollo, the T is more definitive at the start, and it flows better , sorry
TB+apollo = TBA (yes it already means to be announced, but I still like it).
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On October 30 2011 03:40 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:Show nested quote +On October 29 2011 23:46 TotalBiscuit wrote:On October 29 2011 23:06 Zealously wrote:On October 29 2011 05:36 (Kaiser) wrote:
go go TotalApollo I am totally going to call them that from now on! I wish we had a better archon name but there isn't one. Abiscuit?
Working on the premiss a cookie is better as a chicken I presume
My suggestion however is Totapoll. + Show Spoiler +
Not only does it mix their names perfectly but it also sounds really badass and a bit like Totempole so they can easily invoke the spirits for guidance when casting
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TotalApollo is fine, at least then people will know who the hell you're talking about.
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What is a TotalHalibruit?
>_>
Looking forward to it anyways, Apollo seems to be so knowledgeable about the players, their styles... well anything really, I wonder how much he prepares for these events.
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Apollo is amazing, yes. Afaik he coaches dignitas players now, so its not suprising that his reads and knowledge are so good.
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TB, sorry for all the hate you are getting in here. I know you don't like me, but I'll try to say things from my point of view, perhaps maybe to speak for all the haters. I hate to see someone ganged up upon, this is an event we should all celebrate (we don't all post how 'shitty' a tournament is because we all hate, i don't know, 'that player', do we? We don't say gsl sucks because bitbybit was in it, right?) and even if someone hates you more than anyone else, we all appreciate you casting. Could We/I do a better job than you? personally, I think I could... but I don't have the time. I appreciate the time you take to do what you do, even if I don't like how you do it. I know that isn't the most flattering compliment, but I don't at all hate you, and I look forward to a good competition with someone who is kind enough to take the time to cast it.
First off, I think some people are rubbed the wrong way with your wow background. I think a lot of SC players are sort of all about skill, either perceived or not, and wow is definitely perceived as a skill-less game. I think some people feel you just hopped on the sc2 casting bandwagon from wow. It doesn't really matter if this is true or not, because what matters is you are here now, and every cast you do helps the community. Because of you, I watched cool games. Did I wish tastosis or wolf or a million other casters casted it? Sure. But they didn't, and you did, first off, and secondly I really would rather watch the 'worst caster' than download the replay myself and watch it that way.
Secondly I think a lot of people don't like how you lack much knowledge about the game. We get it, one caster is analytical, one is SHOUTcastingⓇ, but even moletrap is KR diamond (personally I like moletrap, don't know why people don't). I know you 'advertise' how you are low level, that you are a playby play, but I think a lot of people are slightly offended when you talk about this so much, as if you should be ashamed about this stuff. And I get it, don't be ashamed about who you are, but a lot of people will tell you that masters, or even diamond league, is REALLY easy to get into, if you just put the time into it. That you haven't put the time into this game, is what people question. Really, the Mr. Bitter statement from his interview encapsulates this point very well.
spoilered because I already posted it:
+ Show Spoiler +1.) Play the game. Nothing annoys me more than someone who advertises himself as a caster, only to later reveal that he plays the game at a gold level. I'm sorry guys, but you have to understand the game if you're going to talk about it. As a caster, it is your responsibility to sell StarCraft 2 to your audience. A gold league player selling SC2 to an audience is asking to buy a Rolex on the streets in Chinatown.
Mr. Bitter
Third, I think some people dislike your voice. You can tell them to fuck off, because there isn't anything you can do about that besides live in america for 20 years to lose the accent.
So to all the haters, get over it. It's ridiculous to bash a tournie simply because one participant is someone you don't like. Otherwise, every major tournament would be shunned because one of the players is stupid. You can always watch the replays. To TB, just get better at the game. It doesn't take long, but it does take dedication, something many of us feel you haven't proved. Many of us don't find it flattering when you go on and on about how you are still in bronze, we find it annoying, and something we really don't like in a caster - there are plenty of diamond level casters out there that can shout just as much.
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On October 31 2011 01:10 Belial88 wrote:
Could We/I do a better job than you? personally, I think I could... but I don't have the time. I appreciate the time you take to do what you do, even if I don't like how you do it.
I wish you would cast, if only for you to see what it is like to get flamed every day, like every caster that isnt Tastosis seems to have to suffer.
Anyone who doesn't like this casting duo probably didnt watch Dreamhack invitational. They were amazing at that!
As for the game knowledge thing, I think TBs game knowledge is at far higher standard than the league he plays in would indicate. He suffers from dyspraxia which makes multitasking extremely difficult which is obviously something required in SC2 and thus he makes stupid mistakes that hold him back in ladder.
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^ you don't need multitasking to get to at least diamond, much less masters. And if you suffer from something that makes it 'hard to multitask' than sorry, maybe you shouldn't be a sc2 caster. Just because you have a medical reason to be in gold doesn't make it okay, and you'd get to diamond easily with just game knowledge. playing in lower leagues gives you a skewed understanding of the game.
I wish you would cast, if only for you to see what it is like to get flamed every day, like every caster that isnt Tastosis seems to have to suffer.
What does that have to do with anything? I get TB gets a lot of hate, and I think it's a bit unfair, but on the other hand there is a reason for it, something that I think TB can fix. I think there's too much bashing on him in a thread that is a good thing - this is a tournament with TB taking the time to cast, and we could just as easily not have anyone casting it, or even if you don't like the caster, doesn't mean the tournament is bad.
I will thoroughly enjoy watching this tournament, and appreciate TB casting it. I may not like him as a caster, but I appreciate that he's casting.
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On October 31 2011 04:15 Belial88 wrote:
^ you don't need multitasking to get to at least diamond, much less masters. And if you suffer from something that makes it 'hard to multitask' than sorry, maybe you shouldn't be a sc2 caster. Just because you have a medical reason to be in gold doesn't make it okay, and you'd get to diamond easily with just game knowledge. playing in lower leagues gives you a skewed understanding of the game.
So you think you can get to Diamond maybe masters with game knowledge alone? SC2 has nothing to do with reflexes, hand eye coordination, not to mention multitasking? Everyone below Masters is either too stupid or too lazy to get the required game knowledge?
Multitasking is pretty important even in low leagues, if you don't scout for instance you are going to lose alot of games to lesser skilled (knowledgeable ;p) players.
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What a handsome nerdballer this Apollo!
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Nice! Its always good to see large events like MLG and now this tourney let the lesser, not as well known community casters do some stuff on the side stage matches. Any word on who main casters are going to be for the people that care about SC2?
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SC2 has nothing to do with reflexes, hand eye coordination, not to mention multitasking?
High Masters/GM. A lot of people, from pros to staff, have said the same thing.
Everyone below Masters is either too stupid or too lazy to get the required game knowledge?
I said diamond, but people below masters just don't have the time, skill, or knowledge. Most usually, it's lack of time. If you don't play regularly it's pretty hard to rank up, no matter how good you are.
It's not to say low level can't know a lot about the game, but their sense of timings and importance of macro is a little flawed. It's just a totally different ball game, ie mutas are horrible against roach/infestor in platinum, but in masters, it's suicide not to get mutas.
Anyways this is derailing... We all know TB is known not for his skill, but his excitement. I'm just glad he's willing to cast games for us
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Great, looking forward to this event.
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TB is fast becoming one of my favorite casters. Unlike many other casters he always has a great synergy with whoever he's casting with, especially Apollo. Gonna be great.
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These two Casters are one of the most entertaining and informative duo's out there in the SC2 scene.
Keep up the good work guys
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This is almost certainly my favorite duo.
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On October 31 2011 20:20 Sated wrote:Show nested quote +1.) Play the game. Nothing annoys me more than someone who advertises himself as a caster, only to later reveal that he plays the game at a gold level. I'm sorry guys, but you have to understand the game if you're going to talk about it. As a caster, it is your responsibility to sell StarCraft 2 to your audience. A gold league player selling SC2 to an audience is asking to buy a Rolex on the streets in Chinatown.
Mr. Bitter http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_MotsonYou don't have to play the game to present it to fans in an entertaining way. This is by far the most ridiculous criticism to use against any commentator of any sport.
I personally just find Mr Bitter's statement hilariously ironic considering his casting of some of the games at IEM NY. DRG's especially, just.. urgh. He went for the 2 base infested terran bust against a forge fe and Mr Bitter literally had no idea what was happening. He just kept saying 'I don't know what hes doing here' when its a build used so much in the GSL.
If you are going to say stuff like the statement he made, you REALLY have to be beyond reproach when it comes to game knowledge, becuase otherwise you are just going to look like an ass.
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On November 01 2011 04:29 Trowa127 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 31 2011 20:20 Sated wrote:1.) Play the game. Nothing annoys me more than someone who advertises himself as a caster, only to later reveal that he plays the game at a gold level. I'm sorry guys, but you have to understand the game if you're going to talk about it. As a caster, it is your responsibility to sell StarCraft 2 to your audience. A gold league player selling SC2 to an audience is asking to buy a Rolex on the streets in Chinatown.
Mr. Bitter http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_MotsonYou don't have to play the game to present it to fans in an entertaining way. This is by far the most ridiculous criticism to use against any commentator of any sport. I personally just find Mr Bitter's statement hilariously ironic considering his casting of some of the games at IEM NY. DRG's especially, just.. urgh. He went for the 2 base infested terran bust against a forge fe and Mr Bitter literally had no idea what was happening. He just kept saying 'I don't know what hes doing here' when its a build used so much in the GSL. If you are going to say stuff like the statement he made, you REALLY have to be beyond reproach when it comes to game knowledge, becuase otherwise you are just going to look like an ass.
It's like a Chinatown vendor claiming that they have the only real Rolexes in all of Chinatown (normally when I parody someone's statement I try to play with the words more, I did my best with that sentence).
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I've never been a fan of TB, but I love Apollo and his casting so that's all good on my side. <3
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Fine I guess, I just wish Totalbiscuit would actually know what he is talking about. Looking farward to Apollo though, amazing caster.
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On November 01 2011 05:12 justinpal wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2011 04:29 Trowa127 wrote:On October 31 2011 20:20 Sated wrote:1.) Play the game. Nothing annoys me more than someone who advertises himself as a caster, only to later reveal that he plays the game at a gold level. I'm sorry guys, but you have to understand the game if you're going to talk about it. As a caster, it is your responsibility to sell StarCraft 2 to your audience. A gold league player selling SC2 to an audience is asking to buy a Rolex on the streets in Chinatown.
Mr. Bitter http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_MotsonYou don't have to play the game to present it to fans in an entertaining way. This is by far the most ridiculous criticism to use against any commentator of any sport. I personally just find Mr Bitter's statement hilariously ironic considering his casting of some of the games at IEM NY. DRG's especially, just.. urgh. He went for the 2 base infested terran bust against a forge fe and Mr Bitter literally had no idea what was happening. He just kept saying 'I don't know what hes doing here' when its a build used so much in the GSL. If you are going to say stuff like the statement he made, you REALLY have to be beyond reproach when it comes to game knowledge, becuase otherwise you are just going to look like an ass. It's like a Chinatown vendor claiming that they have the only real Rolexes in all of Chinatown (normally when I parody someone's statement I try to play with the words more, I did my best with that sentence).
Not a bad attempt. Just to clarify, I think that Mr Bitter is a great caster, but you really can't make statements like that.
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On November 01 2011 05:23 Lorch wrote:
Fine I guess, I just wish Totalbiscuit would actually know what he is talking about. Looking farward to Apollo though, amazing caster.
any recent examples?
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Don't get me wrong. I was always saying that i love Totalbiscuit for his passion and what he does for the community, but recently i found that i like his commentary less and less. It seems that proper game analysis starts to be more and more valuable for me.
I recently watched Grubby Inv #3 and the contrast between 2GD's and Apollo's commentary was huuuuuge!
It's like comparing proffessor (Apollo) to drunken student (2GD).
It was fun between games, but when the game was on, Apollo just started to shine. His knowledge and game sence is comparable to the one of Artosis'.
Quite nice casting combo, but i feel that Totalbiscuit needs to improve his game knowledge or keep pulling funnier and funnier jokes, or else he'll fall to abyss and i don't want d.Apollo being pulled with him.
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I swear apollo looks different every time I see him. I didn't recognise him at first when I saw him in person
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Awesome for Apollo! Not a massive fan of TotalBiscuit, still awesome.
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will 2GD be there too? Last time apollo, TB and GD were together at an event much fun was had :D
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They were pretty good at Dreamhack, looking forward to seeing their casting in this event.
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On November 01 2011 05:23 Lorch wrote:
Fine I guess, I just wish Totalbiscuit would actually know what he is talking about. Looking farward to Apollo though, amazing caster.
I would somewhat agree with this a year ago. But TB heard the critique back then and actually learned ALOT by playing etc. He is by far one of the top 3 play-by-play and allround "fun" casters imo. And, by now, i would say that he atleast knows more about the game than your average caster. Also everyone should give him mad love for putting up all of his own stream revenue (and some well deserved donations) as pricemoney for his tournaments.
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