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Watch how you approach the topic of match fixing. You can speculate, saying "I'm not so sure about the finals, something doesn't sit right with me," but if you are going to outright accuse players of match fixing you need something more than your word.

TL takes match fixing/abuse seriously and as such there is a burden a proof when you are accusing players.

- p4NDemik
Xkalibert
Profile Joined March 2010
United States1404 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-22 22:05:15
October 22 2011 22:04 GMT
#2821
On October 23 2011 07:01 setzer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2011 07:00 iSunrise wrote:
On October 23 2011 07:00 woob wrote:
we need decent translators that can straight up say the translation so maybe the crowd can interact

Dude, it´s Blizzcon.


I don't think Blizzard has EVER hired a capable translator

no wonder blizzard vs kespa lawsuit happen.
CeriseCherries
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
6170 Posts
October 22 2011 22:05 GMT
#2822
On October 23 2011 07:00 ItsMeDomLee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2011 06:58 CoolSea wrote:
Kind of sad, it doesn't seem that Mvp is getting as many cheers as some other players. I't doesn't even make any sense really, he's extremely nice, EXTREMELY good, and really mannered.


MMA has always been one of the most popular Koreans next to MC so that isn't a very fair comparison.


Well... its also people love a good underdog and MVP is like the big giant dude
Remember, no matter where you go, there you are.
Asymmetric
Profile Joined June 2011
Scotland1309 Posts
October 22 2011 22:05 GMT
#2823
Let's just hope theres no more close position shattered temple for the grand finals.
Zane
Profile Joined January 2011
Romania3916 Posts
October 22 2011 22:05 GMT
#2824
On October 23 2011 07:03 blae000 wrote:
How can they say "Our maps arent ment to be tournament maps" Then go ahead and use these sh*ty maps? God, poor Sen, I truly believe he had a fair shot at taking the match vs MVP.. >o<''

At least this way you can still think he had a shot at Mvp and blame the maps.
Terminal
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom2109 Posts
October 22 2011 22:05 GMT
#2825
Well shit, I knew Nik Lentz played SC2, but masters? Not bad.
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
October 22 2011 22:05 GMT
#2826
On October 23 2011 07:03 Telcontar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2011 07:02 awu25 wrote:
On October 23 2011 07:01 MuTa07 wrote:
what bo? are the finals?

Looks like bo3, but MVP will have to win two series

If it ends up like their last meeting, I will go on a table flipping rampage.


lolclose positions again -.-....
NesTea | Mvp | MC | Leenock | Losira | Gumiho | DRG | Taeja | Jinro | Stephano | Thorzain | Sen | Idra |Polt | Bomber | Symbol | Squirtle | Fantasy | Jaedong | Maru | sOs | Seed | ByuN | ByuL | Neeb| Scarlett | Rogue | IM forever
doihy
Profile Joined August 2010
668 Posts
October 22 2011 22:05 GMT
#2827
On October 23 2011 07:00 Shaxe wrote:
Never understood why crowds never like Mvp...


If you haven't been to a live event so far, here's how the crowd works majority of the time.

They cheer in the order of:
Is Idra/ Huk playing? Cheer for them
Is Boxer playing? Cheer for him
Are there foreigners playing? Cheer for the foreigner
Is Protoss playing? Cheer for P.
Is Zerg playing? Cheer for Z.
Who is the underdog? Cheer for him.

Nobody seems to like Terran in the crowd most of the time.
QuantumPhysX
Profile Joined January 2011
Philippines273 Posts
October 22 2011 22:05 GMT
#2828
Just tuned in. What's the format?

Extended Series?

Does MVP have to beat Nestea twice?
A man once asked me if I saw the glass half empty or half full. I turned and said, "Neither. I see a glass twice as big as it should be."
Cyber_Cheese
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia3615 Posts
October 22 2011 22:05 GMT
#2829
On October 23 2011 07:04 Newbistic wrote:
MVP: Hopefully I can get close positio- I mean comeback, a comeback vs Nestea.

Considering the way that went last time, I bet he's looking for a macro game.
The moment you lose confidence in yourself, is the moment the world loses it's confidence in you.
Kirrimir
Profile Joined June 2011
Scotland7 Posts
October 22 2011 22:05 GMT
#2830
On October 23 2011 07:04 TheAngryZergling wrote:
lol @ "duking off". duking it out meets jerking off.


No it means fighting.
bittman
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia8759 Posts
October 22 2011 22:05 GMT
#2831
On October 23 2011 07:00 TooN wrote:
What has MVP done to have people not like him


Common complaint I hear is that his play isn't interesting enough. He's a very very solid terran player, and in a way he's the safest of the bunch. But I think it was sort of shown perfectly vs MMA that though his macro might be the best, he's largely a turtle-to-max-then-win player.

Not saying that's all he does. I know he can do any strategy in the book, but his "style" seems to fall back on security. Players like MMA are fan favourites for his risky drop play and unique builds. MVP's risk-taking is low, and though he often wins it's usually pretty safe.

I'm sort of a fan, but his safety can make some games a little dull and so I'm not as much a fan of his play as I am for players like DRG and MC.
Mvp - Leenock - Dongraegu - MC - Gumiho - Keen - Polt - Squirtle - Jjakji - Genius - Seed - Life - sC - Dream || LG-IM - MVP - FXO
diverzee
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden992 Posts
October 22 2011 22:05 GMT
#2832
On October 23 2011 07:04 Xkalibert wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2011 07:01 setzer wrote:
On October 23 2011 07:00 iSunrise wrote:
On October 23 2011 07:00 woob wrote:
we need decent translators that can straight up say the translation so maybe the crowd can interact

Dude, it´s Blizzcon.


I don't think Blizzard has EVER hired a capable translator

no wonder blizzard vs kespa lawsuit happen.


Lol, you're onto something!
Parting
Jyvblamo
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada13788 Posts
October 22 2011 22:06 GMT
#2833
On October 23 2011 07:05 doihy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2011 07:00 Shaxe wrote:
Never understood why crowds never like Mvp...


If you haven't been to a live event so far, here's how the crowd works majority of the time.

They cheer in the order of:
Is Idra/ Huk playing? Cheer for them
Is Boxer playing? Cheer for him
Are there foreigners playing? Cheer for the foreigner
Is Protoss playing? Cheer for P.
Is Zerg playing? Cheer for Z.
Who is the underdog? Cheer for him.

Nobody seems to like Terran in the crowd most of the time.

Not always true, the crowd loves MMA because he has a cool personality and did that hadouken ceremony.
F u r u y a
Profile Joined August 2010
Brazil173 Posts
October 22 2011 22:06 GMT
#2834
On October 23 2011 07:03 Raskit wrote:
Has Day been studying Korean? I notice when the Korean guys are speaking, he'll nod and smile as if he understands. Is it just out of respect?

I noticed that too. But I think he had no clue about what they were talking about. Just fake nods lol
sixfour
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
England11061 Posts
October 22 2011 22:06 GMT
#2835
i missed all of the "Which statement about the EMP round is true" options, i take it there wasn't a "it counters everything" choice
p: stats, horang2, free, jangbi z: soulkey, zero, shine, hydra t: leta, hiya, sea
Tokadub
Profile Joined August 2010
United States168 Posts
October 22 2011 22:06 GMT
#2836
I can't believe they are allowing close positions in a tournament like this. Once again Blizzard caters to the casual fans to such a degree that it ruins the game for the top players.

I just can't stand it when gaming companies do things that are obviously stupid. How can they make such good games yet make things so imbalanced when they could easily fix it?

Oh yeah I forgot... money.
diverzee
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden992 Posts
October 22 2011 22:06 GMT
#2837
On October 23 2011 07:05 doihy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2011 07:00 Shaxe wrote:
Never understood why crowds never like Mvp...


If you haven't been to a live event so far, here's how the crowd works majority of the time.

They cheer in the order of:
Is Idra/ Huk playing? Cheer for them
Is Boxer playing? Cheer for him
Are there foreigners playing? Cheer for the foreigner
Is Protoss playing? Cheer for P.
Is Zerg playing? Cheer for Z.
Who is the underdog? Cheer for him.

Nobody seems to like Terran in the crowd most of the time.


Spot on, bro. How predictable or simple our community actually is
Parting
ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
October 22 2011 22:07 GMT
#2838
MVP has to defeat Nestea in 2 Bo3's

But damn I am soooo angry at the maps right now.....sure MVP might have won anyway but at least give Sen a chance to show his skill...
LiquidDota Staff@TW_ShiaoPi
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keioh
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France1099 Posts
October 22 2011 22:07 GMT
#2839
On October 23 2011 07:06 sixfour wrote:
i missed all of the "Which statement about the EMP round is true" options, i take it there wasn't a "it counters everything" choice


Fun Fact : If you EMP a bunch of lings, you just wasted your energy.
GIMME ALL THE BELGIAN WAFFLES I CAN GET FOR THIS MONEY !!!!!! BELGIAN WAFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFLEEEEEEEEES
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
October 22 2011 22:07 GMT
#2840
On October 23 2011 07:05 Zane wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2011 07:03 blae000 wrote:
How can they say "Our maps arent ment to be tournament maps" Then go ahead and use these sh*ty maps? God, poor Sen, I truly believe he had a fair shot at taking the match vs MVP.. >o<''

At least this way you can still think he had a shot at Mvp and blame the maps.


Both Sen and MVP play a little too orthodox in ZvT. MVP always opens reactor hellions, and Sen always opens some variation of roach-ling. These builds and timings could be exploited by someone who knows them.

For MVP, I think his focus on TvT for the GSL finals might be the reason. For Sen, I think he has a harder time because if he practices with people in IM, then they know his builds and he'll need to find other practice partners to prepare unorthodox builds with.
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