So, all together, 8-37 and only has two series wins. The win against Choya is impressive, though. I guess. He also had pretty hard competition.
Yeah, it really makes me sad because I love InControl, but the results just aren't there. Great personality though and this is probably just a ridiculous slump.
He's been getting worse with every MLG. I think he needs to seriously reconsider his play style if wants results. Clearly what he is currently doing is not working.
Clearly. But has anyone watched enough inControl to know what's going on with him? Is there some defining trend that causes him to lose or what?
Bad decisions and control. Horrible 1 control group syndrome. His builds seem fine and he executes them OK while he's not under pressure.
Unfortunately for him the latter is much easier to improve.
On October 16 2011 11:27 Yaotzin wrote: [quote] Firstly, the korean/foreigner terminology was invented before SC2 existed. Secondly, I was simply clarifying what every sane person means by the terms. When someone says HuK is Korean, it is shorthand for saying he's a white dude who has trained in Korea for long enough to be considered one of them, in SC terms.
so by that logic rain is now a foreigner? Since he now lives and trains in the US? Do dirk nowitski, tony parker, pau gasol, etc. become american when they go to the NBA?
If he stays in the US for long enough, yes.
I'm not familiar with basketball, sorry. In football there is a clear distinction made between, for example, South American players who stay in the local leagues vs those who go to Europe. There's no similar terminology though.
???... South American soccer players will always be South American no matter how long they stay in Europe. It's just the consensus that a player's true explosion is found in the best level, in soccer's case, that's european leagues. But in soccer a player never "becomes european", unless he actually changes nationalities. Or maybe I just misread you.
BTW, I think this is one of the silliest discussions in all of TL. Why would a player change nationalities LOL. He's getting the best training, but he's still representing his home country. It seems like the inverse situation is consensus in SC, but it seems silly to me.
that's not true even though most likely they will retain the style of where they learned football so people keep referring to that. actually football pros get second and third citicenships all the time for playing in countries long enough! (and/or special ones to be able to play for national teams). it's just semantics again at this point as in that context it never refers to actual nationality youÄ're of course right there. but even for players like messi he's a 'spanish' player now because he played at barca for the most significant time so yeah
Messi could've played for spain, but he choose argentina. Because he feels like he belongs in argentina. The country sees him as an argentine. So he is argentine, despite what people say.
countryman sure
but the flavo(u)r of his play, i'd say he's more considered european of course us europeans would agree. i guess at that point like with huk everybody just finds some kind of 'loophole' to integrate a great player into his sphere
No countryman, PLAYER. He considers himself a argentine football player, that's why he plays for argentina national squad.
is that the catch 22 thing? are we at the point where it started with HuK? i'd think so
nobody's denying that
it's a question of flavor/system
but it's down to semantics again
On October 16 2011 11:50 yawnoC wrote: Stop arguing semantics and just watch the games already -.-;
Tyler and Slush GOGO!
i'm a linguist how dare you tell me to not argue semantics ;P
I got a pretty good guess why he can dare :p, something to do with the little text in white up top.
On October 16 2011 11:23 mcc wrote: [quote] That would be like saying that French player practicing chess in Russia is Russian. That terminology makes absolutely no sense to anyone but few people who decided to use it (few sc2 fans who just need to be able to say that non-Koreans never win anything). You are redefining words needlessly, just say training in Korea, which is correct English, not Korean as he is not, he is a Canadian/American. Using few more words won't kill you and you will avoid butchering English language and creating misunderstandings.
Firstly, the korean/foreigner terminology was invented before SC2 existed. Secondly, I was simply clarifying what every sane person means by the terms. When someone says HuK is Korean, it is shorthand for saying he's a white dude who has trained in Korea for long enough to be considered one of them, in SC terms.
so by that logic rain is now a foreigner? Since he now lives and trains in the US? Do dirk nowitski, tony parker, pau gasol, etc. become american when they go to the NBA?
If he stays in the US for long enough, yes.
I'm not familiar with basketball, sorry. In football there is a clear distinction made between, for example, South American players who stay in the local leagues vs those who go to Europe. There's no similar terminology though.
???... South American soccer players will always be South American no matter how long they stay in Europe. It's just the consensus that a player's true explosion is found in the best level, in soccer's case, that's european leagues. But in soccer a player never "becomes european", unless he actually changes nationalities. Or maybe I just misread you.
BTW, I think this is one of the silliest discussions in all of TL. Why would a player change nationalities LOL. He's getting the best training, but he's still representing his home country. It seems like the inverse situation is consensus in SC, but it seems silly to me.
that's not true even though most likely they will retain the style of where they learned football so people keep referring to that. actually football pros get second and third citicenships all the time for playing in countries long enough! (and/or special ones to be able to play for national teams). it's just semantics again at this point as in that context it never refers to actual nationality youÄ're of course right there. but even for players like messi he's a 'spanish' player now because he played at barca for the most significant time so yeah
Messi could've played for spain, but he choose argentina. Because he feels like he belongs in argentina. The country sees him as an argentine. So he is argentine, despite what people say.
countryman sure
but the flavo(u)r of his play, i'd say he's more considered european of course us europeans would agree. i guess at that point like with huk everybody just finds some kind of 'loophole' to integrate a great player into his sphere
No countryman, PLAYER. He considers himself a argentine football player, that's why he plays for argentina national squad.
is that the catch 22 thing? are we at the point where it started with HuK? i'd think so
nobody's denying that
it's a question of flavor/system
but it's down to semantics again
I added some other examples to clarify my logic. There's no paradox, If huk called himself korean and the koreans accepted him as one of their own, to me, he would be a korean.
Tyler spawns at 6,5 and KR at 8. Tyler getting a gate and Gas. Barracks coming for KR. MULE-maker for KR on the way. Core for Tyler and an expansion for Kawaii.
Tyler getting Warp Gate research and a Nexus. KR puts up a bunker and 2 more rax and gasses.
Kawaii getting a Factory and Tyler getting a gate + one more gas. Another 3 gates for Tyler, getting him 6. Starport on the way for Kawaii, and getting Combat SHields and Stim.
Tyler spawns at 6,5 and KR at 8. Tyler getting a gate and Gas. Barracks coming for KR. MULE-maker for KR on the way. Core for Tyler and an expansion for Kawaii.
Tyler getting Warp Gate research and a Nexus. KR puts up a bunker and 2 more rax and gasses.
Kawaii getting a Factory and Tyler getting a gate + one more gas. Another 3 gates for Tyler, getting him 6. Starport on the way for Kawaii, and getting Combat SHields and Stim.
Lot of sentries for Tyler. Going for the MC timing? Tyler moving out with no upgrades. KR now has Stim and Combat SHields.
EPT
poor kawaiirice, had a good run through the OB
