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XnG_777
Profile Joined June 2011
713 Posts
October 15 2011 21:21 GMT
#4701
On October 16 2011 06:20 clusen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2011 06:18 Tantaburs wrote:
The only cheese i have evre really been upset about is when MVP said 1-1-1 should be banned and then proceeded to 1-1-1

When did he 1-1-1 aka Marine/Tank/Banshee?


to MVP.TaiLs
Spessi
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
304 Posts
October 15 2011 21:22 GMT
#4702
holy shit the game sound is so loud on white stream.
"Um. Everyone, I love you!" - Boxer, IPL 3, Oct 8, 2011
gruff
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden2276 Posts
October 15 2011 21:22 GMT
#4703
Someone should tell the guy on the white stream that you can barely hear him over the game sounds.
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
October 15 2011 21:22 GMT
#4704
On October 16 2011 06:21 MK4512 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2011 06:17 Elem wrote:
On October 16 2011 06:13 Talin wrote:
On October 16 2011 06:08 Elem wrote:
On October 16 2011 06:04 setzer wrote:
On October 16 2011 06:02 Elem wrote:
On October 16 2011 06:01 Talin wrote:
On October 16 2011 05:58 JohnnyBanana wrote:
"Oh yes I love this 'style' by JulyZerg. Good timing push"

"BUT FUCK PUMA 1/1/1 NO THATS NOT TIMING, CHEESE CHEESE ALLIN ALLIN"

Oh TL, how I love thee.


Pointless snide remark there.

Different players get different treatment for different reasons (that do exist). When Puma becomes a legendary programer, he can have a "style". Until then he's just abusing flavor builds.
TL;DR bias for past accomplishments.


Are you a boxer fan?
I like BoxeR, and I respect him and his past accomplishments. But I do not allow that to get in the way of proper judgement. Which is why July continues to be awful overall to me. BoxeR is better than him, though. July relies on that it's nigh impossible to fall out of Code S if you coinflip well.


But this isn't about judgement, because we aren't discussing their playstyles, but about how they are perceived in the community and why.

When Flash cheesed Bisu out of a Starleague way back, he was "that f***ing cheeser kid". Now he's God Young Ho and he can cheese or suck for a year if he decides to.

Such is life in Starcraft. ^^
Sadly. I am a person who really does not enjoy that people are carried forward by the community based on old, old accomplishments (July, to some extent even The Emperor himself) or their teams (see some Liquid players). Oh well, I guess my attempts at trying to reduce the amount of bias are futile. T_T


Hero's play in that game was not good past the opening stages, and July had an upgrade advantage as well as playing a really good contain. He deserved that win. Puma is very un-proven and the fact that he uses a hated build will lead to alot of comments, but Puma has to be one of the most hyped-unproven people right now on the scene

1.Tyler
2.Haypro
3.Polt
4.Puma
5.Hero


Puma is not unproven, he won NASL and IEM Cologne against a lot of good players.

Neither is Polt unproven, why would you even say that??
DoomsVille
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada4885 Posts
October 15 2011 21:22 GMT
#4705
Smart play from IdrA. TLO is so immobile right now and IdrA is doing well to spread him out.

Eye of the tiger right here.
Pajegetc
Profile Joined February 2011
United States3158 Posts
October 15 2011 21:22 GMT
#4706
On October 16 2011 06:19 Logros wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2011 06:18 Adreme wrote:
On October 16 2011 06:16 laharl23 wrote:
On October 16 2011 06:14 Adreme wrote:
On October 16 2011 06:13 laharl23 wrote:
please dont let july win this group, thats all i ask...


I think Huk probably is going to win the group now that Hero has 2 losses.


if huk beats ddoro or if july loses to ddoro huk wins the group.


Since Idra is also in perfect position to win his group that means we could very easily have a Huk vs Idra winners match (which also means foreigner top 3 )

Idra will need to beat Marineking so that will be close. Also Ret will probably have to beat TheStC for the 1st spot.


MarineKing is destined for second in his group!
Lose Early game - Cheese. Lose Mid Game - All Ined. Lose Late Game - OMG IMBALANCE. My Guide to Zerg LR.
Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
October 15 2011 21:22 GMT
#4707
On October 16 2011 06:21 MK4512 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2011 06:17 Elem wrote:
On October 16 2011 06:13 Talin wrote:
On October 16 2011 06:08 Elem wrote:
On October 16 2011 06:04 setzer wrote:
On October 16 2011 06:02 Elem wrote:
On October 16 2011 06:01 Talin wrote:
On October 16 2011 05:58 JohnnyBanana wrote:
"Oh yes I love this 'style' by JulyZerg. Good timing push"

"BUT FUCK PUMA 1/1/1 NO THATS NOT TIMING, CHEESE CHEESE ALLIN ALLIN"

Oh TL, how I love thee.


Pointless snide remark there.

Different players get different treatment for different reasons (that do exist). When Puma becomes a legendary programer, he can have a "style". Until then he's just abusing flavor builds.
TL;DR bias for past accomplishments.


Are you a boxer fan?
I like BoxeR, and I respect him and his past accomplishments. But I do not allow that to get in the way of proper judgement. Which is why July continues to be awful overall to me. BoxeR is better than him, though. July relies on that it's nigh impossible to fall out of Code S if you coinflip well.


But this isn't about judgement, because we aren't discussing their playstyles, but about how they are perceived in the community and why.

When Flash cheesed Bisu out of a Starleague way back, he was "that f***ing cheeser kid". Now he's God Young Ho and he can cheese or suck for a year if he decides to.

Such is life in Starcraft. ^^
Sadly. I am a person who really does not enjoy that people are carried forward by the community based on old, old accomplishments (July, to some extent even The Emperor himself) or their teams (see some Liquid players). Oh well, I guess my attempts at trying to reduce the amount of bias are futile. T_T


Hero's play in that game was not good past the opening stages, and July had an upgrade advantage as well as playing a really good contain. He deserved that win. Puma is very un-proven and the fact that he uses a hated build will lead to alot of comments, but Puma has to be one of the most hyped-unproven people right now on the scene

top 5 overhyped for me
1.Tyler
2.Haypro
3.Polt
4.Puma
5.Hero


Nobody's been hyping Tyler for aaages. ;o
Toadvine
Profile Joined November 2010
Poland2234 Posts
October 15 2011 21:22 GMT
#4708
On October 16 2011 06:17 windsupernova wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2011 06:16 Toadvine wrote:
It just makes me sad to see Hero play so much better, but still lose. July was honestly playing awful in those games.


Play much better? Did we miss how Hero opened Stargate, didn't do much damage and even lost a VoidRay?And even lost the Warpprism...

Both played Well, July was just too far ahead


The Stargate paid for itself the moment he killed 2 Queens and 4 Infestors with it.

The simple truth this game demonstrates, is that "get Templar to counter Infestors" is a terrible idea. 2 base Templar is just awful against Zerg, precisely because of what July did. July was actually behind in supply at one point in that game, but won anyways by simply massing roaches off 3 bases.

Templar are awful against Zerg in the midgame.
"There are always some Eskimos ready to instruct the Congolese on how to cope with heat waves." - S.J.Lec
Fighter
Profile Joined August 2010
Korea (South)1531 Posts
October 15 2011 21:22 GMT
#4709
On October 16 2011 06:20 krneki wrote:
if ddoro defeats july and huk, and loses to hero we're gonna have 5 player with 3-2 in group D


Dear God, imagine if they didn't allow map score to break ties..
For Aiur???
clusen
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany8702 Posts
October 15 2011 21:22 GMT
#4710
On October 16 2011 06:21 Logros wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2011 06:20 clusen wrote:
On October 16 2011 06:18 Tantaburs wrote:
The only cheese i have evre really been upset about is when MVP said 1-1-1 should be banned and then proceeded to 1-1-1

When did he 1-1-1 aka Marine/Tank/Banshee?

He used it a bunch of times since then. The one that I remember most off the top of my head was against Tails in the GSTL (who crushed it).

How could I forget hero Tails.

He did quite some Marine/Tank pushes, but mostly different versions. Like vs Huk.
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
October 15 2011 21:22 GMT
#4711
On October 16 2011 06:22 Pajegetc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2011 06:19 Logros wrote:
On October 16 2011 06:18 Adreme wrote:
On October 16 2011 06:16 laharl23 wrote:
On October 16 2011 06:14 Adreme wrote:
On October 16 2011 06:13 laharl23 wrote:
please dont let july win this group, thats all i ask...


I think Huk probably is going to win the group now that Hero has 2 losses.


if huk beats ddoro or if july loses to ddoro huk wins the group.


Since Idra is also in perfect position to win his group that means we could very easily have a Huk vs Idra winners match (which also means foreigner top 3 )

Idra will need to beat Marineking so that will be close. Also Ret will probably have to beat TheStC for the 1st spot.


MarineKing is destined for second in his group!


yeah lmao he lost to drewbie so that he could get second and continue his name sake :D
When I think of something else, something will go here
Adreme
Profile Joined June 2011
United States5574 Posts
October 15 2011 21:22 GMT
#4712
On October 16 2011 06:21 StarVe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2011 06:20 clusen wrote:
On October 16 2011 06:18 Tantaburs wrote:
The only cheese i have evre really been upset about is when MVP said 1-1-1 should be banned and then proceeded to 1-1-1

When did he 1-1-1 aka Marine/Tank/Banshee?


GSTL vs Tails for example.


The game they are referring to is when he did it vs Huk 2 days after the interview(even though Huk should have held it off)
CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-15 21:23:37
October 15 2011 21:22 GMT
#4713
On October 16 2011 06:21 MK4512 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2011 06:17 Elem wrote:
On October 16 2011 06:13 Talin wrote:
On October 16 2011 06:08 Elem wrote:
On October 16 2011 06:04 setzer wrote:
On October 16 2011 06:02 Elem wrote:
On October 16 2011 06:01 Talin wrote:
On October 16 2011 05:58 JohnnyBanana wrote:
"Oh yes I love this 'style' by JulyZerg. Good timing push"

"BUT FUCK PUMA 1/1/1 NO THATS NOT TIMING, CHEESE CHEESE ALLIN ALLIN"

Oh TL, how I love thee.


Pointless snide remark there.

Different players get different treatment for different reasons (that do exist). When Puma becomes a legendary programer, he can have a "style". Until then he's just abusing flavor builds.
TL;DR bias for past accomplishments.


Are you a boxer fan?
I like BoxeR, and I respect him and his past accomplishments. But I do not allow that to get in the way of proper judgement. Which is why July continues to be awful overall to me. BoxeR is better than him, though. July relies on that it's nigh impossible to fall out of Code S if you coinflip well.


But this isn't about judgement, because we aren't discussing their playstyles, but about how they are perceived in the community and why.

When Flash cheesed Bisu out of a Starleague way back, he was "that f***ing cheeser kid". Now he's God Young Ho and he can cheese or suck for a year if he decides to.

Such is life in Starcraft. ^^
Sadly. I am a person who really does not enjoy that people are carried forward by the community based on old, old accomplishments (July, to some extent even The Emperor himself) or their teams (see some Liquid players). Oh well, I guess my attempts at trying to reduce the amount of bias are futile. T_T


Hero's play in that game was not good past the opening stages, and July had an upgrade advantage as well as playing a really good contain. He deserved that win. Puma is very un-proven and the fact that he uses a hated build will lead to alot of comments, but Puma has to be one of the most hyped-unproven people right now on the scene

top 5 overhyped for me
1.Tyler
2.Haypro
3.Polt
4.Puma
5.Hero


Puma won NASL and IEM Cologne and Polt won the Super Tournament as well as 2 SK Champion Trophies. What have Hero, Tyler, and Haypro done?
WriterWovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen.
WerderBremen
Profile Joined September 2011
Germany1070 Posts
October 15 2011 21:23 GMT
#4714
Please some pool a on red/blue stream!
"Thats the moment you send the kids outta the room - when you get contained by MarineKing." Tasteless
Badfatpanda
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States9719 Posts
October 15 2011 21:23 GMT
#4715
idra 2-0 TLO
Music is a higher revelation than all wisdom and philosophy. -Beethoven | Mech isn't a build, it's a way of life. -MajOr | Charlie.Sheen: "What is sarcastic, kids who have no courage to fight?" | #TerranPride #yolo #swag -Naama after 2-0'ing MC at HSC VI
Denzil
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom4193 Posts
October 15 2011 21:23 GMT
#4716
On October 16 2011 06:21 MK4512 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2011 06:17 Elem wrote:
On October 16 2011 06:13 Talin wrote:
On October 16 2011 06:08 Elem wrote:
On October 16 2011 06:04 setzer wrote:
On October 16 2011 06:02 Elem wrote:
On October 16 2011 06:01 Talin wrote:
On October 16 2011 05:58 JohnnyBanana wrote:
"Oh yes I love this 'style' by JulyZerg. Good timing push"

"BUT FUCK PUMA 1/1/1 NO THATS NOT TIMING, CHEESE CHEESE ALLIN ALLIN"

Oh TL, how I love thee.


Pointless snide remark there.

Different players get different treatment for different reasons (that do exist). When Puma becomes a legendary programer, he can have a "style". Until then he's just abusing flavor builds.
TL;DR bias for past accomplishments.


Are you a boxer fan?
I like BoxeR, and I respect him and his past accomplishments. But I do not allow that to get in the way of proper judgement. Which is why July continues to be awful overall to me. BoxeR is better than him, though. July relies on that it's nigh impossible to fall out of Code S if you coinflip well.


But this isn't about judgement, because we aren't discussing their playstyles, but about how they are perceived in the community and why.

When Flash cheesed Bisu out of a Starleague way back, he was "that f***ing cheeser kid". Now he's God Young Ho and he can cheese or suck for a year if he decides to.

Such is life in Starcraft. ^^
Sadly. I am a person who really does not enjoy that people are carried forward by the community based on old, old accomplishments (July, to some extent even The Emperor himself) or their teams (see some Liquid players). Oh well, I guess my attempts at trying to reduce the amount of bias are futile. T_T


Hero's play in that game was not good past the opening stages, and July had an upgrade advantage as well as playing a really good contain. He deserved that win. Puma is very un-proven and the fact that he uses a hated build will lead to alot of comments, but Puma has to be one of the most hyped-unproven people right now on the scene

top 5 overhyped for me
1.Tyler
2.Haypro
3.Polt
4.Puma
5.Hero


Won NASL, Won IEM came 3rd in IEM.


What has Hero done again? Please remind me.
Anna: So Sen how will you prepare for your revenge v MC? Sen: With a smile.
oDieN[Siege]
Profile Joined November 2009
United States2905 Posts
October 15 2011 21:23 GMT
#4717
On October 16 2011 06:03 ExquisiteRed wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2011 06:03 ODieN wrote:
MLGSC2Scores:
vVvTitan wins 2-0 over QxGInka in OLR5.

How is this possible? They're both on different sections of the bracket.
http://s3.majorleaguegaming.com/2011-orlando-starcraft2-open.html#


it was destiny not inka

Obviously.. but I was clearly stating that MLG made an error.
말크 : ^_^~ NeO)GabuAt, vGODieN
Tantaburs
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada1825 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-15 21:23:38
October 15 2011 21:23 GMT
#4718
On October 16 2011 06:19 Logros wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2011 06:18 Adreme wrote:
On October 16 2011 06:16 laharl23 wrote:
On October 16 2011 06:14 Adreme wrote:
On October 16 2011 06:13 laharl23 wrote:
please dont let july win this group, thats all i ask...


I think Huk probably is going to win the group now that Hero has 2 losses.


if huk beats ddoro or if july loses to ddoro huk wins the group.


Since Idra is also in perfect position to win his group that means we could very easily have a Huk vs Idra winners match (which also means foreigner top 3 )

Idra will need to beat Marineking so that will be close. Also Ret will probably have to beat TheStC for the 1st spot.


If Idra loses to MKP and MKP loses to Boxer then Idra could win on map score
"One cannot play StarCraft with clenched fish.." ~Nick "Confucius" Plott
habeck
Profile Joined February 2011
1120 Posts
October 15 2011 21:23 GMT
#4719
On October 16 2011 06:21 StarVe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2011 06:20 clusen wrote:
On October 16 2011 06:18 Tantaburs wrote:
The only cheese i have evre really been upset about is when MVP said 1-1-1 should be banned and then proceeded to 1-1-1

When did he 1-1-1 aka Marine/Tank/Banshee?


GSTL vs Tails for example.



Hah hahahaha he used it after the patch which was supposed to help to defend against 111
Krallman
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden713 Posts
October 15 2011 21:23 GMT
#4720
On October 16 2011 06:22 StarVe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2011 06:21 MK4512 wrote:
On October 16 2011 06:17 Elem wrote:
On October 16 2011 06:13 Talin wrote:
On October 16 2011 06:08 Elem wrote:
On October 16 2011 06:04 setzer wrote:
On October 16 2011 06:02 Elem wrote:
On October 16 2011 06:01 Talin wrote:
On October 16 2011 05:58 JohnnyBanana wrote:
"Oh yes I love this 'style' by JulyZerg. Good timing push"

"BUT FUCK PUMA 1/1/1 NO THATS NOT TIMING, CHEESE CHEESE ALLIN ALLIN"

Oh TL, how I love thee.


Pointless snide remark there.

Different players get different treatment for different reasons (that do exist). When Puma becomes a legendary programer, he can have a "style". Until then he's just abusing flavor builds.
TL;DR bias for past accomplishments.


Are you a boxer fan?
I like BoxeR, and I respect him and his past accomplishments. But I do not allow that to get in the way of proper judgement. Which is why July continues to be awful overall to me. BoxeR is better than him, though. July relies on that it's nigh impossible to fall out of Code S if you coinflip well.


But this isn't about judgement, because we aren't discussing their playstyles, but about how they are perceived in the community and why.

When Flash cheesed Bisu out of a Starleague way back, he was "that f***ing cheeser kid". Now he's God Young Ho and he can cheese or suck for a year if he decides to.

Such is life in Starcraft. ^^
Sadly. I am a person who really does not enjoy that people are carried forward by the community based on old, old accomplishments (July, to some extent even The Emperor himself) or their teams (see some Liquid players). Oh well, I guess my attempts at trying to reduce the amount of bias are futile. T_T


Hero's play in that game was not good past the opening stages, and July had an upgrade advantage as well as playing a really good contain. He deserved that win. Puma is very un-proven and the fact that he uses a hated build will lead to alot of comments, but Puma has to be one of the most hyped-unproven people right now on the scene

1.Tyler
2.Haypro
3.Polt
4.Puma
5.Hero


Puma is not unproven, he won NASL and IEM Cologne against a lot of good players.

Neither is Polt unproven, why would you even say that??


guy has no clue about the scene
Im better than Stefan
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