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On October 15 2011 08:12 Krimineel wrote:Why people hate on Puma so mutch just because he's good  makes me sad
I think it's more because he plays Terran and relies heavily on the aspects of Terran that people find to be the most unfair.
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On October 15 2011 08:12 sharktopus. wrote:Show nested quote +On October 15 2011 08:11 jmbthirteen wrote:On October 15 2011 08:09 vincom2 wrote:On October 15 2011 08:09 jmbthirteen wrote: Lol Clutch was not so clutch
Oh and how did Lima win without 1-1-1 haters? I thought that's all he could do? Because marauders are a stupid unit and terran harass >>> protoss harass Yeah it had nothing to do with Puma being way better than kiwi... I wouldn't go that far
I would.
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On October 15 2011 08:11 jmbthirteen wrote:Show nested quote +On October 15 2011 08:09 vincom2 wrote:On October 15 2011 08:09 jmbthirteen wrote: Lol Clutch was not so clutch
Oh and how did Lima win without 1-1-1 haters? I thought that's all he could do? Because marauders are a stupid unit and terran harass >>> protoss harass Yeah it had nothing to do with Puma being way better than kiwi... Look, I don't think we want to get into a balance discussion in the LR thread, but frankly how do you think the game would've looked like if they had switched races? Even if puma really is wayyyy better it wouldn't have looked half as ridiculous...
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So... where is the dreaded 111 that this one trick pony noob is infamous for? suck it haters.
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On October 15 2011 08:11 Ropid wrote:Show nested quote +On October 15 2011 08:02 Cyro wrote:On October 15 2011 08:01 Maitolasi wrote:On October 15 2011 08:00 IzenHart wrote: Typical stutter-step bio stim abuse of Puma.
The player I hate the most. I don't know why but every time I see a terran kite like that it makes me so fucking angry. I wish blizzard made some adjustment to the attack animations. Yes honestly i think it is just bad that units can shoot while moving and loose 0 dps. It COMPLETELY DESTROYS all balance between melee and ranged units in medium quantities, even with zealot charge and ling speed it is painful to watch and advantagous for terran I disagree (and I am not playing T). It looks too fun to remove that from the game. Doing stuff like that with your units, hitting the right timing for your clicks, so that the result looks neat, tickles the brain in just the right way to be pretty enjoyable for the player. I would rather P and Z get something that feels as neat and fun as that, too.
Protoss cant stutter step because marauders match their range and have conc shells, they also need zealots (melee units) in front, also because there is a built in delay to stalker attack which prevents them kiting like marines/marauders can, zerg has attack animation for roach that also delays movement.
Terran can interrupt their animations and still deal damage, whereas protoss and zerg cant.
A stalker who is running looses DPS and has a delay so a lower range unit can catch it even with lower speed, a roach has to stop running in order to play entire attack animation (again letting slower or lower ranged units catch them) and terran just doesnt have this limitation. That is why it bothers me... Along with that, terran also has no melee units, so it cant be abused against them as they abuse it against us
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On October 15 2011 08:13 vincom2 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 15 2011 08:11 jmbthirteen wrote:On October 15 2011 08:09 vincom2 wrote:On October 15 2011 08:09 jmbthirteen wrote: Lol Clutch was not so clutch
Oh and how did Lima win without 1-1-1 haters? I thought that's all he could do? Because marauders are a stupid unit and terran harass >>> protoss harass Yeah it had nothing to do with Puma being way better than kiwi... Look, I don't think we want to get into a balance discussion in the LR thread, but frankly how do you think the game would've looked like if they had switched races? Even if puma really is wayyyy better it wouldn't have looked half as ridiculous...
Stop the whining he went 5 gate with dt's then expand? Jezus christ guys Puma doesn't do 1-1-1 and you still fucking hate and whine about terran.. nothings gonna change and for people who don't really care about it it's starting to get really annoying.. please QQ somewhere else
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On October 15 2011 08:12 Krimineel wrote:Why people hate on Puma so mutch just because he's good  makes me sad I doubt it is because of that, much less people hate Bomber or MvP. I would guess the whole TSL-EG thing, dislike for EG, his abuse of ghosts and 111, him being a terran in current T-dominated climate, his visibility in foreign scene all play the role. But for me he is just not a likeable player without analyzing it deeply.
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On October 15 2011 08:13 vincom2 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 15 2011 08:11 jmbthirteen wrote:On October 15 2011 08:09 vincom2 wrote:On October 15 2011 08:09 jmbthirteen wrote: Lol Clutch was not so clutch
Oh and how did Lima win without 1-1-1 haters? I thought that's all he could do? Because marauders are a stupid unit and terran harass >>> protoss harass Yeah it had nothing to do with Puma being way better than kiwi... Look, I don't think we want to get into a balance discussion in the LR thread, but frankly how do you think the game would've looked like if they had switched races? Even if puma really is wayyyy better it wouldn't have looked half as ridiculous...
they would bot hsuck xD off race means the games wouldn't be as good heh
I still think that Puma is in the top 5-10 at this MLG and Kiwi is only in like 15-30. And the graph for skill imo goes like - - - --- ---- - ----- - ------ - ------- - - - - - - - - - highest skill lowest skill so that means quite a bit
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People really arguing that stutter stepping should be removed? Lol? Man LR threads...
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On October 15 2011 08:13 vincom2 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 15 2011 08:11 jmbthirteen wrote:On October 15 2011 08:09 vincom2 wrote:On October 15 2011 08:09 jmbthirteen wrote: Lol Clutch was not so clutch
Oh and how did Lima win without 1-1-1 haters? I thought that's all he could do? Because marauders are a stupid unit and terran harass >>> protoss harass Yeah it had nothing to do with Puma being way better than kiwi... Look, I don't think we want to get into a balance discussion in the LR thread, but frankly how do you think the game would've looked like if they had switched races? Even if puma really is wayyyy better it wouldn't have looked half as ridiculous... Puma would have massed probes and won. Your argument is worthless. How the heck would you know Puma wouldn't win play protoss against kiwiwaki's terran?
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On October 15 2011 08:16 mcc wrote:Show nested quote +On October 15 2011 08:12 Krimineel wrote:Why people hate on Puma so mutch just because he's good  makes me sad I doubt it is because of that, much less people hate Bomber or MvP. I would guess the whole TSL-EG thing, dislike for EG, his abuse of ghosts and 111, him being a terran in current T-dominated climate, his visibility in foreign scene all play the role. But for me he is just not a likeable player without analyzing it deeply.
Puma won 4-0 over MC in the IEM finals a little while ago by going 1-1-1 four games in a row.
He has always been at the front of using abusive strategies to win, and a lot of people got upset watching 1-1-1 win four games in a row vs the best protoss in the world
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No Day9 at Providence D: It's like saying there won't be any Starcraft :/
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On October 15 2011 08:02 humbre wrote:Show nested quote +On October 15 2011 08:00 rpgalon wrote: protoss tech and pay a high price and proceed to drop invisble units and caught the terran off guard to get fucking 9 scv! seriously protoss harass is a fucking joke lol what? kiwis build was a joke 5 gate robo into FE into scouted dt
what you said have nothing to do with the dt harass... puma saw the dt shirine finishing, he did not even have the engeneering bay done when he saw the DT tech, he did not expect the DT's to be droped, he was caught of guard. but the protoss harass mechanics are so stupid that it can't even pay for itself.
I'm not saying kiwi should win with that awful build, but teching to DT and droping like 400/400 worth of harass units in the mineral line with almost no units/detection should deal more damage than 9 scv...
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MC just blocked his FFE nexus with a pylon vs julyzerg wow...
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Livestream for weddingcraft please
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On October 15 2011 08:16 mcc wrote:Show nested quote +On October 15 2011 08:12 Krimineel wrote:Why people hate on Puma so mutch just because he's good  makes me sad I doubt it is because of that, much less people hate Bomber or MvP. I would guess the whole TSL-EG thing, dislike for EG, his abuse of ghosts and 111, him being a terran in current T-dominated climate, his visibility in foreign scene all play the role. But for me he is just not a likeable player without analyzing it deeply.
Everything Terran does is considered abuse. Ghosts, drops, stim and now stutter step micro is also abusive. It's funny how some people are.
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I didn't like Puma ever since he gave the answer at NASL about spending his 50k winnings on facial products and enhancement. Rubbed me the wrong way. Though, he's still an incredible player, but don't really like him.
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ahahaha weddingcraft..
"and I shall now pronounce you man and.." GEEE GEEE
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Sir Scoots watching Huk set up!
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Hey guys, I'm asking here because the red thread is a huge spamfest. Where should we discuss the games from black/white?
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