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sharktopus.
Profile Joined April 2011
United States456 Posts
October 14 2011 23:13 GMT
#561
On October 15 2011 08:12 Krimineel wrote:
Why people hate on Puma so mutch just because he's good makes me sad


I think it's more because he plays Terran and relies heavily on the aspects of Terran that people find to be the most unfair.
FairForever
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada2392 Posts
October 14 2011 23:13 GMT
#562
On October 15 2011 08:12 sharktopus. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2011 08:11 jmbthirteen wrote:
On October 15 2011 08:09 vincom2 wrote:
On October 15 2011 08:09 jmbthirteen wrote:
Lol Clutch was not so clutch

Oh and how did Lima win without 1-1-1 haters? I thought that's all he could do?

Because marauders are a stupid unit and terran harass >>> protoss harass

Yeah it had nothing to do with Puma being way better than kiwi...


I wouldn't go that far


I would.
vincom2
Profile Joined June 2011
Singapore1775 Posts
October 14 2011 23:13 GMT
#563
On October 15 2011 08:11 jmbthirteen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2011 08:09 vincom2 wrote:
On October 15 2011 08:09 jmbthirteen wrote:
Lol Clutch was not so clutch

Oh and how did Lima win without 1-1-1 haters? I thought that's all he could do?

Because marauders are a stupid unit and terran harass >>> protoss harass

Yeah it had nothing to do with Puma being way better than kiwi...

Look, I don't think we want to get into a balance discussion in the LR thread, but frankly how do you think the game would've looked like if they had switched races? Even if puma really is wayyyy better it wouldn't have looked half as ridiculous...
positron.
Profile Joined May 2010
634 Posts
October 14 2011 23:14 GMT
#564
So... where is the dreaded 111 that this one trick pony noob is infamous for? suck it haters.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20326 Posts
October 14 2011 23:14 GMT
#565
On October 15 2011 08:11 Ropid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2011 08:02 Cyro wrote:
On October 15 2011 08:01 Maitolasi wrote:
On October 15 2011 08:00 IzenHart wrote:
Typical stutter-step bio stim abuse of Puma.


The player I hate the most.


I don't know why but every time I see a terran kite like that it makes me so fucking angry. I wish blizzard made some adjustment to the attack animations.



Yes honestly i think it is just bad that units can shoot while moving and loose 0 dps. It COMPLETELY DESTROYS all balance between melee and ranged units in medium quantities, even with zealot charge and ling speed it is painful to watch and advantagous for terran

I disagree (and I am not playing T). It looks too fun to remove that from the game. Doing stuff like that with your units, hitting the right timing for your clicks, so that the result looks neat, tickles the brain in just the right way to be pretty enjoyable for the player. I would rather P and Z get something that feels as neat and fun as that, too.



Protoss cant stutter step because marauders match their range and have conc shells, they also need zealots (melee units) in front, also because there is a built in delay to stalker attack which prevents them kiting like marines/marauders can, zerg has attack animation for roach that also delays movement.

Terran can interrupt their animations and still deal damage, whereas protoss and zerg cant.


A stalker who is running looses DPS and has a delay so a lower range unit can catch it even with lower speed, a roach has to stop running in order to play entire attack animation (again letting slower or lower ranged units catch them) and terran just doesnt have this limitation. That is why it bothers me... Along with that, terran also has no melee units, so it cant be abused against them as they abuse it against us
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Krimineel
Profile Joined October 2011
France21 Posts
October 14 2011 23:15 GMT
#566
On October 15 2011 08:13 vincom2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2011 08:11 jmbthirteen wrote:
On October 15 2011 08:09 vincom2 wrote:
On October 15 2011 08:09 jmbthirteen wrote:
Lol Clutch was not so clutch

Oh and how did Lima win without 1-1-1 haters? I thought that's all he could do?

Because marauders are a stupid unit and terran harass >>> protoss harass

Yeah it had nothing to do with Puma being way better than kiwi...

Look, I don't think we want to get into a balance discussion in the LR thread, but frankly how do you think the game would've looked like if they had switched races? Even if puma really is wayyyy better it wouldn't have looked half as ridiculous...



Stop the whining he went 5 gate with dt's then expand? Jezus christ guys Puma doesn't do 1-1-1 and you still fucking hate and whine about terran.. nothings gonna change and for people who don't really care about it it's starting to get really annoying.. please QQ somewhere else
mcc
Profile Joined October 2010
Czech Republic4646 Posts
October 14 2011 23:16 GMT
#567
On October 15 2011 08:12 Krimineel wrote:
Why people hate on Puma so mutch just because he's good makes me sad

I doubt it is because of that, much less people hate Bomber or MvP. I would guess the whole TSL-EG thing, dislike for EG, his abuse of ghosts and 111, him being a terran in current T-dominated climate, his visibility in foreign scene all play the role. But for me he is just not a likeable player without analyzing it deeply.
lovethelovers
Profile Joined October 2011
51 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-14 23:16:55
October 14 2011 23:16 GMT
#568
On October 15 2011 08:13 vincom2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2011 08:11 jmbthirteen wrote:
On October 15 2011 08:09 vincom2 wrote:
On October 15 2011 08:09 jmbthirteen wrote:
Lol Clutch was not so clutch

Oh and how did Lima win without 1-1-1 haters? I thought that's all he could do?

Because marauders are a stupid unit and terran harass >>> protoss harass

Yeah it had nothing to do with Puma being way better than kiwi...

Look, I don't think we want to get into a balance discussion in the LR thread, but frankly how do you think the game would've looked like if they had switched races? Even if puma really is wayyyy better it wouldn't have looked half as ridiculous...


they would bot hsuck xD off race means the games wouldn't be as good heh

I still think that Puma is in the top 5-10 at this MLG and Kiwi is only in like 15-30. And the graph for skill imo goes like
-
- -
---
---- -
----- -
------ -
------- - - - - - - - - -
highest skill lowest skill
so that means quite a bit
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
October 14 2011 23:16 GMT
#569
People really arguing that stutter stepping should be removed? Lol? Man LR threads...
positron.
Profile Joined May 2010
634 Posts
October 14 2011 23:16 GMT
#570
On October 15 2011 08:13 vincom2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2011 08:11 jmbthirteen wrote:
On October 15 2011 08:09 vincom2 wrote:
On October 15 2011 08:09 jmbthirteen wrote:
Lol Clutch was not so clutch

Oh and how did Lima win without 1-1-1 haters? I thought that's all he could do?

Because marauders are a stupid unit and terran harass >>> protoss harass

Yeah it had nothing to do with Puma being way better than kiwi...

Look, I don't think we want to get into a balance discussion in the LR thread, but frankly how do you think the game would've looked like if they had switched races? Even if puma really is wayyyy better it wouldn't have looked half as ridiculous...

Puma would have massed probes and won. Your argument is worthless. How the heck would you know Puma wouldn't win play protoss against kiwiwaki's terran?
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20326 Posts
October 14 2011 23:17 GMT
#571
On October 15 2011 08:16 mcc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2011 08:12 Krimineel wrote:
Why people hate on Puma so mutch just because he's good makes me sad

I doubt it is because of that, much less people hate Bomber or MvP. I would guess the whole TSL-EG thing, dislike for EG, his abuse of ghosts and 111, him being a terran in current T-dominated climate, his visibility in foreign scene all play the role. But for me he is just not a likeable player without analyzing it deeply.



Puma won 4-0 over MC in the IEM finals a little while ago by going 1-1-1 four games in a row.

He has always been at the front of using abusive strategies to win, and a lot of people got upset watching 1-1-1 win four games in a row vs the best protoss in the world
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Bromazepam
Profile Joined August 2011
820 Posts
October 14 2011 23:17 GMT
#572
No Day9 at Providence D:
It's like saying there won't be any Starcraft :/
Saying that something is killing esports is killing esports.
rpgalon
Profile Joined April 2011
Brazil1069 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-14 23:18:26
October 14 2011 23:17 GMT
#573
On October 15 2011 08:02 humbre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2011 08:00 rpgalon wrote:
protoss tech and pay a high price and proceed to drop invisble units and caught the terran off guard to get fucking 9 scv! seriously protoss harass is a fucking joke

lol what? kiwis build was a joke 5 gate robo into FE into scouted dt


what you said have nothing to do with the dt harass...
puma saw the dt shirine finishing, he did not even have the engeneering bay done when he saw the DT tech, he did not expect the DT's to be droped, he was caught of guard. but the protoss harass mechanics are so stupid that it can't even pay for itself.

I'm not saying kiwi should win with that awful build, but teching to DT and droping like 400/400 worth of harass units in the mineral line with almost no units/detection should deal more damage than 9 scv...
badog
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20326 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-14 23:18:21
October 14 2011 23:17 GMT
#574
MC just blocked his FFE nexus with a pylon vs julyzerg wow...
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Horse...falcon
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1851 Posts
October 14 2011 23:18 GMT
#575
Livestream for weddingcraft please
Artosis: "From horsssse....falcon"
positron.
Profile Joined May 2010
634 Posts
October 14 2011 23:18 GMT
#576
On October 15 2011 08:16 mcc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2011 08:12 Krimineel wrote:
Why people hate on Puma so mutch just because he's good makes me sad

I doubt it is because of that, much less people hate Bomber or MvP. I would guess the whole TSL-EG thing, dislike for EG, his abuse of ghosts and 111, him being a terran in current T-dominated climate, his visibility in foreign scene all play the role. But for me he is just not a likeable player without analyzing it deeply.


Everything Terran does is considered abuse. Ghosts, drops, stim and now stutter step micro is also abusive. It's funny how some people are.
ptbl
Profile Joined January 2011
United States6074 Posts
October 14 2011 23:19 GMT
#577
I didn't like Puma ever since he gave the answer at NASL about spending his 50k winnings on facial products and enhancement. Rubbed me the wrong way. Though, he's still an incredible player, but don't really like him.
Don't mind me
rotegirte
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany2859 Posts
October 14 2011 23:19 GMT
#578
ahahaha weddingcraft..

"and I shall now pronounce you man and.." GEEE GEEE
Xivsa
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1009 Posts
October 14 2011 23:19 GMT
#579
Sir Scoots watching Huk set up!
I don't know half of you half as well as I should like and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve. - Bilbo
Bromazepam
Profile Joined August 2011
820 Posts
October 14 2011 23:20 GMT
#580
Hey guys, I'm asking here because the red thread is a huge spamfest. Where should we discuss the games from black/white?
Saying that something is killing esports is killing esports.
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