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Titorelli
Profile Joined March 2011
2492 Posts
October 14 2011 17:17 GMT
#881
Oh fuck Mana....
"Everybody poops.... after Tasteless kills them" Artosis
OnlineHero
Profile Joined February 2011
Denmark647 Posts
October 14 2011 17:17 GMT
#882
Nooo Mana
<3
Fyzar
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands8010 Posts
October 14 2011 17:17 GMT
#883
God fucking damn it MaNa, I'm sad .
It appears I have been chosen.
windsupernova
Profile Joined October 2010
Mexico5280 Posts
October 14 2011 17:17 GMT
#884
Stupid attack by Mana ....
"Its easy, just trust your CPU".-Boxer on being good at games
ZAiNs
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom6525 Posts
October 14 2011 17:17 GMT
#885
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
October 14 2011 17:17 GMT
#886
Fuck, this isn't looking good.
HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
October 14 2011 17:18 GMT
#887
MaNa :/
Why commit like that?
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
October 14 2011 17:18 GMT
#888
And suddenly, North American players are owning European ones
Wren
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States745 Posts
October 14 2011 17:18 GMT
#889
On October 15 2011 02:14 MrCon wrote:
Today there is only this serie and then another PvP left, right ?

first two quarterfinals as well.
We're here! We're queer! We don't want any more bears!
Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
October 14 2011 17:18 GMT
#890
Eh, Mana looked like he had no idea what he really wanted to go for in that game.
setzer
Profile Joined March 2010
United States3284 Posts
October 14 2011 17:18 GMT
#891
Well, there goes MaNa ... looks like another Korean sweep in the finals.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
October 14 2011 17:18 GMT
#892
I think this is the first LR thread in a while, in which TT1 isn't posting in, cause he's actually playing, and very well at that.
liftlift > tsm
AIOL!
Profile Joined January 2011
France962 Posts
October 14 2011 17:18 GMT
#893
Mana out i'm so sad TT
Stephano!!!!!!/Nerchio/Mana/Hasuobs/Grubby/Kas/Tarson/Sarens/Goody/BeastyCury
Dexington
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada7276 Posts
October 14 2011 17:18 GMT
#894
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaand a Korean wins this tournament. Mana was the only legit hope.
"Man you guys are missing out waving your stats dicks about instead of watching this pvp" - bbm
ThyHate
Profile Joined September 2011
240 Posts
October 14 2011 17:18 GMT
#895
Ok mr bitter confirmed for dumb.

Proud and patriotic about the level of play ? Are you fucking kidding me ?
Xcobidoo
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden1871 Posts
October 14 2011 17:18 GMT
#896
Ok foreigners have officially no hope in this tournament now, if Elfi can't pull out something amazing out of his hat, which is unlikely...
Supreme Intergalactic Commander
Silvanel
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Poland4756 Posts
October 14 2011 17:19 GMT
#897
Every game Mana ends up low on supply....
Pathetic Greta hater.
FinBenton
Profile Joined March 2011
Finland870 Posts
October 14 2011 17:19 GMT
#898
On October 15 2011 02:10 jj33 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2011 02:05 FinBenton wrote:
On October 15 2011 02:00 jj33 wrote:
On October 15 2011 01:57 Azarkon wrote:
On October 15 2011 01:51 jj33 wrote:
On October 15 2011 01:46 SPQR13 wrote:
On October 15 2011 01:37 Tarotis wrote:

proven what wrong?

that talent is not a factor?

you're wrong in so many ways. you are denying talent exists?


Yes, I deny exactly that. Everything can be trained and learned if your neurons connect the right way. Dont want to go too deep into that as I cant write that down in english


no you are wrong, im sure nature gave some guys some rts game understanding talent, hell, even sc2 game understanding in particular



100% correct.

most recent example I can think of is Stephano. He apparently doens't practice much but watching him play and his decision making/understanding of the game (which at the core is strategy) you can clearly see he's very talented.

When you watch savior play back in bw days, you can clearly see he had talent as well.

I can't believe people here are really trying to say and believe talent is not real. Unbelievable


But then again, I also don't see why you're obsessed with talent.

You can't tell whether what someone lacks is talent just by watching them play. As IdrA, among others in the community, have said - in Starcraft, people who aren't talented but who practice a lot can be good, but people who are talented but who never practice can never be good.

You don't know how much of Axslav/Incontrol's failures are due to their talent and how much of it is due to the way they train.



everything you said i agree.

I never said otherwise. I just mentioned that it's not only hard work, but talent as well.

I just kept going, because it seems there are people out there who believe talent doesn't exist, which is ridiculous.

But I do believe Axslav/incontrol are very limited in their talents compared to top pros.

I dont think no one has said talend doesnt exist at all but seriously anyone can get to top 20 in sc2 with 12h training a day with a great coach. I think talent is what determines whos top 1 and whos top 10 player.. And some people can get up there faster than others..



wrong. take my friend for example. He was horrible and bw and sc2. He's talent is very limited. No matter how hard he tries and how much I try to help him he can not break out of platinum.

He doesn't have the mechanics and more importantly he doesn't have the fast through process. He's a smart guy, but in sc2 he's just lost.


There always that one exeption but Im speaking about an average player.
Toadvine
Profile Joined November 2010
Poland2234 Posts
October 14 2011 17:20 GMT
#899
I think MaNa was trying to do the Oz 3 Gate pressure, but that only really works if you get super fast WG and are really aggressive with your first units. He botched the execution, in any case.
"There are always some Eskimos ready to instruct the Congolese on how to cope with heat waves." - S.J.Lec
Fyzar
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands8010 Posts
October 14 2011 17:20 GMT
#900
On October 15 2011 02:18 wei2coolman wrote:
I think this is the first LR thread in a while, in which TT1 isn't posting in, cause he's actually playing, and very well at that.

Not to disrespect TT1, but I think this is more MaNa kinda choking than him playing well.
He didn't even have to micro at that failed attack from MaNa, it was just kinda weird from him.
It appears I have been chosen.
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