[GSL] Oct Code A Grand Final - Page 43
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Zer atai
United States691 Posts
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TheSubtleArt
Canada2527 Posts
On October 10 2011 21:57 aksfjh wrote: This just in: Artosis is wrong a lot of the time. I'm not sure why people listen to him. He's the king of disappointing predictions. If anything he's the king of overhyping lol. *Still waiting for clide to win a GSL* | ||
Tommylew
Wales2717 Posts
On October 11 2011 02:10 1800STFU wrote: I am going to laugh when no Protosses get out of the up/downs and we're left with Huk and Killer as the only 2 Tosses left. na surely we will have a few pvp's only way in hell we are going to getmore then just huK and Killer!!! | ||
koolaid1990
831 Posts
TOP vs Byun was amazing Supernova vs Losira was also frekin amazin MVP vs Bomber was another amazing code a finals but all the good people in code a ranked up to code s so... | ||
WrentheFaceless
United States33 Posts
Grats to Curious, though this doesnt raise my hope for the Protoss in the up-downs Nor for the Code S finals being entertaining | ||
Sermokala
United States13955 Posts
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windsupernova
Mexico5280 Posts
On October 11 2011 02:21 Belial88 wrote: The whole Take-Super-Fast-Third vs FFE strat is kind of new, so I think the real strat is taking a super fast third, not muta/ling. I think some people have figured out that muta/ling is a really good way to transition from taking a super fast third. Game 3 was not about Curious' amazing ling/muta usage, but rather the failed hidden base and then Curious getting in huge ling runbys. The former is a weak coinflip, the latter was a blunder not fit for a code A champion, which is exactly why he lost. If that third was just his normal third instead, or he hadn't let those lings run into his base, he would've done much better. Curious was using mostly roach play in that game, and I think he threw up the spire actually as a way to be ready against Colossi. But then he found the hidden third, so he sacced his roaches to kill it. He didn't kill it, but he knew Oz was spread extremely thin, so that mutas would work excellently against someone sticking to gateway units, and he also knew with mutas he could just FF the nexus down. You can't afford that with muta/ling, and what good is 15 spines if they don't guard your third? Muta/ling just gets owned by mass gateway timings like 6-7-8 gates that were popular, they get owned by the increased popularity of stargate, they get owned by normal play, and they get owned by archon play. What they do good with, is maps that are very large, maps where the third is 'inside' your base like Crevasse or Terminus, maps where the third is extremely far like Crossfire (or BelShir beach when you make your 4th your third) where you can force the enemy to have to run back and forth to protect their base, and when your opponent has an extremely low stalker count and you want to exploit it. Yeah thats what i was saying. Old MutaBling was 2 base MutaBling, then 3rd base. Right now Zergs can take a super early 3rd and saturate it(even against gateway openings) and then transition into Muta. What changed was indeed the early 3rd. | ||
windsupernova
Mexico5280 Posts
On October 10 2011 21:36 s4life wrote: One sided match.. but seriously, another zerg winning and important tournament in the last week.. it's getting really hard to argue about zerg being the 'weakest' race... its been like that for a while man. Zergs are hardly a weaker race now. Hell even 2with 20 T in Code S 70% of the Zergs made it into RO16. And this season TvZ in GSL is at 52%. Its only Destiny and idra complaining about Zerg being weak. Hopefully P/Blizzard can figure out stuff more because P is overall doing badly atm. | ||
sjschmidt93
United States2518 Posts
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Asha
United Kingdom38255 Posts
On October 10 2011 22:19 Telcontar wrote: Nice to see Asha's hype about Curious was right all along. Who do you take me for, Artosis? =p Super happy to see Curious 4-0! Like I said, it would be a well deserved win, and in the end he really pulled through in convincing fashion ^_^ | ||
galivet
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Goshdarnit
United States540 Posts
Plus, just because the few zergs in code S actually get far is because they are really good obviously, the reason there aren't more zergs in code S is because its freaking hard to be that good. Maybe when protoss figure out PvT they can start winning in code S because like it has been said pretty much 2/3 of players in code S are terran. | ||
windsupernova
Mexico5280 Posts
On October 11 2011 04:59 Goshdarnit wrote: People complaining that Oz lost to a beast like curious? Sad Zealot my ass curious just happened to be the best player in code A this season, he proved that thoroughly. Its not like every Z won all their matches except zvz. Plus, just because the few zergs in code S actually get far is because they are really good obviously, the reason there aren't more zergs in code S is because its freaking hard to be that good. Maybe when protoss figure out PvT they can start winning in code S because like it has been said pretty much 2/3 of players in code S are terran. Yeah Curious was definitively the better player here. But thats what you get when TL endorsed balance whine happens.I kinda expected Oz to continue his vZ winstreak but oh well anyone who saw the games knows that Oz lost because of how he played, not his race | ||
Robonord
United States311 Posts
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Talack
Canada2742 Posts
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ZAiNs
United Kingdom6525 Posts
On October 11 2011 04:44 Asha` wrote: Who do you take me for, Artosis? =p Super happy to see Curious 4-0! Like I said, it would be a well deserved win, and in the end he really pulled through in convincing fashion ^_^ Funny you say that considering Artosis bashed Curious a lot during the team league XD. | ||
Ouga
Finland645 Posts
Well s2 foxer nestea was good. But that's an year ago ![]() | ||
galivet
288 Posts
On October 11 2011 05:05 windsupernova wrote: Yeah Curious was definitively the better player here. But thats what you get when TL endorsed balance whine happens.I kinda expected Oz to continue his vZ winstreak but oh well anyone who saw the games knows that Oz lost because of how he played, not his race The maps were a pretty big factor too. Maps have the power to skew game balance just as much as race design. If player makes a decision that looks strange or too risky, it's hard to know whether it's some concession to the map that isn't obvious without hours of practice on that map, or whether it's just a bad decision. vOv | ||
oogieogie
United States3657 Posts
On October 11 2011 03:45 windsupernova wrote: its been like that for a while man. Zergs are hardly a weaker race now. Hell even 2with 20 T in Code S 70% of the Zergs made it into RO16. And this season TvZ in GSL is at 52%. Its only Destiny and idra complaining about Zerg being weak. Hopefully P/Blizzard can figure out stuff more because P is overall doing badly atm. you do know that 52% is good, and shows the matchup is in a pretty good spot? Can anyone give me a summery of all 4 games though? | ||
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Kinky
United States4126 Posts
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