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If you don't know how to post in a live report thread by now, be advised: don't whine about game balance and don't bash players/casters/interviewers/staff/other posters. We are monitoring this thread closely.

Stop with the USA USA chant shit. Further offenses beyond page 493 will be met with bans. You've been warned.
JohnMatrix
Profile Joined April 2011
France1359 Posts
October 10 2011 04:13 GMT
#18221
OMG I TURN ON MY COMPUTER BEFORE GOING TO WORK AND 0______________________________0

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

wklbishop
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1286 Posts
October 10 2011 04:15 GMT
#18222
On October 10 2011 13:07 lololol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2011 13:02 wklbishop wrote:
On October 10 2011 13:00 AntiGrav1ty wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +

Stephano 2-0 Anypro
Stephano 2-1 Axslav
Stephano 2-1 MarineKing
Stephano 2-1 Socke
Stephano 2-1 Revival
Stephano 2-0 Puzzle
Stephano 2-1 KiWiKaKi
Stephano 2-1 MMA
Stephano 2-0 Huk
Stephano 2-0 Boxer
Stephano 0-2 alive
Stephano 2-1 KiWiKaKi
Stephano 2-0 Violet
Stephano 2-1 Inori
Stephano 3-1 TheStC
Stephano 4-0 Lucky



Pretty decent.


Interestingly enough, Alive is 4-1 against Stephano. Beating Stephano twice.

That's just kind of odd given that he lost to Ret and Darkforce the way he did. Maybe it's a style thing.


He just massed pure ling in both games vs Alive in this tourney.

Yeah, he won games playing like that on ladder, but that's only because he was much better than his opponents, and not because it's a viable strat.

If he played with the style he showed in all other games, these 2 games would've been very different.


But deciding which style to play is also part of one's playstyle.

I don't know man, what about his 2-1 loss to Alive in the qualifiers?

Not to take any credit from Stephano who is obviously a great player. But I just find it odd.
Gameplay > Personality
ValValianT
Profile Joined February 2011
Russian Federation10 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-10 04:16:35
October 10 2011 04:15 GMT
#18223
uhh, what stephano did in this tournament has NEVER been done by any foreigner(in sc2). And if that doesn't constitute greatness I don't know what is. Its kind of funny, but reading half these post I realize these ppl haven't even watched the game! Yet they're trying to talk as if they know something? W got some sad trolls her.
Life is only a dream and we are the imagination of ourselves
Veldril
Profile Joined August 2010
Thailand1817 Posts
October 10 2011 04:15 GMT
#18224


Go go TempO!!!
Without love, we can't see anything. Without love, the truth can't be seen. - Umineko no Naku Koro Ni
Panzamelano
Profile Joined September 2010
Colombia248 Posts
October 10 2011 04:15 GMT
#18225
why do people keep saying that stephano is a genious and invented the ling ultra style? dimaga haves been using it for AGES o.o
ReaperX
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Hong Kong1758 Posts
October 10 2011 04:16 GMT
#18226
IPL3 ezpz?
Artosis : Clide. idrA : Shut up.
Xkalibert
Profile Joined March 2010
United States1404 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-10 04:17:44
October 10 2011 04:16 GMT
#18227
http://esports.ign.com/ipl/tv/?starcraft2/live/ignproleague6

temp0 performing at IPL afterevent party with twitchtv hosting the party
Spaceneil8
Profile Joined February 2011
United States317 Posts
October 10 2011 04:16 GMT
#18228
On October 10 2011 13:09 lololol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2011 13:08 Kznn wrote:
On October 10 2011 13:05 jester- wrote:
Has there ever been a LR thread on here that reached 1000 pages?

Gettin pretty darn close..


Mlg's one had.


With the all the spam when mlg was having stream problems.

No.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=230086
OneOther
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States10774 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-10 04:39:37
October 10 2011 04:20 GMT
#18229
On October 10 2011 12:52 TotalBiscuit wrote:
The internet, where a lot of unimportant people try and devalue those better than them.

Pretty much this.

LR threads are so fucking painful to read now. If a Korean wins, it turns into a pointless discussion about how foreigners will never catch-up and how much exactly we should allow Koreans to play in foreigner tournaments. If a foreigner pulls off a win against tough odds, people still talk about irrelevant stuff like how well he would perform in GSL, how Koreans he played were mediocre at best (it's not his fault, he 4-0ed a guy who 3-0ed MMA), and trying to discredit his win. Just enjoy the awesome tournament we got to spectate, despite its technical difficulties at times, and the sheer amazing plays that Stephano displayed for us. Live with it and move on.
wklbishop
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1286 Posts
October 10 2011 04:21 GMT
#18230
On October 10 2011 13:15 ValValianT wrote:
uhh, what stephano did in this tournament has NEVER been done by any foreigner(in sc2). And if that doesn't constitute greatness I don't know what is. Its kind of funny, but reading half these post I realize these ppl haven't even watched the game! Yet they're trying to talk as if they know something? W got some sad trolls her.


Idra in IEM Guangzhou and to a lesser extent, Naama in DH Winter?

Stephano is amazing, but saying the way you said it kind of insults other players and people in general.
Gameplay > Personality
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-10 04:24:05
October 10 2011 04:21 GMT
#18231
On October 10 2011 13:05 jester- wrote:
Has there ever been a LR thread on here that reached 1000 pages?

Gettin pretty darn close..

Yes multiple times.


On October 10 2011 13:20 OneOther wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2011 12:52 TotalBiscuit wrote:
The internet, where a lot of unimportant people try and devalue those better than them.



Leave it to TB to say something wholly consistent with the truth and still sound inflammatory (._.)
우정호 KT_VIOLET 1988 - 2012 While we are postponing, life speeds by
wats0n
Profile Joined July 2011
United States509 Posts
October 10 2011 04:24 GMT
#18232
On October 10 2011 13:21 wklbishop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2011 13:15 ValValianT wrote:
uhh, what stephano did in this tournament has NEVER been done by any foreigner(in sc2). And if that doesn't constitute greatness I don't know what is. Its kind of funny, but reading half these post I realize these ppl haven't even watched the game! Yet they're trying to talk as if they know something? W got some sad trolls her.


Idra in IEM Guangzhou and to a lesser extent, Naama in DH Winter?

Stephano is amazing, but saying the way you said it kind of insults other players and people in general.


Also Huk at Dreamhack.

Considering the skill difference and commitment difference between Koreans and foreigners we have managed to win more major tournaments than anybody could have predicted.

You could actually argue that the Koreans are underachieving considering their decade head start on infrastructure and their gaming houses...
Denzil
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom4193 Posts
October 10 2011 04:24 GMT
#18233
On October 10 2011 13:21 wklbishop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2011 13:15 ValValianT wrote:
uhh, what stephano did in this tournament has NEVER been done by any foreigner(in sc2). And if that doesn't constitute greatness I don't know what is. Its kind of funny, but reading half these post I realize these ppl haven't even watched the game! Yet they're trying to talk as if they know something? W got some sad trolls her.


Idra in IEM Guangzhou and to a lesser extent, Naama in DH Winter?

Stephano is amazing, but saying the way you said it kind of insults other players and people in general.


Huk Dreamhack. HuK Homestory to a much lesser extent I guess.
Anna: So Sen how will you prepare for your revenge v MC? Sen: With a smile.
ChaosTerran
Profile Joined August 2011
Austria844 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-10 04:26:17
October 10 2011 04:25 GMT
#18234
On October 10 2011 12:51 quancer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2011 12:45 Azarkon wrote:
On October 10 2011 12:43 Grapesludge wrote:
On October 10 2011 12:37 Dante08 wrote:
Cmon guys you have to admit Stephano got a relatively easy bracket.
Not taking anything away from his win, I watched the ZvZ finals and he completely outplayed Lucky. His game sense is crazy.


The moment you say that you are taking away from his win. He didn't have an easy bracket, people try to find ways to discredit a player if they were not their favorite to win it.


Yeah, it's really sad, imo.

No, Stephano did not beat - head-to-head - the Korean players who were considered the best coming into the tournament - that would be MMA, MC, Ryung, and Puma - but he beat all the players who beat them.

And by beating them, those players showed that they were themselves top-level players. So why take away from Stephano?


I think a lot of people feel that Stephano is getting more credit than he's due. From my perspective, this cycle of overhyping one messiah only to abandon him and move onto another is pretty unhealthy. Stephano had a great tournament and is obviously a top player, but him beating mid-tier Koreans, (yes, they are mid-tier, because they have not shown to be consistently top-tier -- this should be an easy concept) in one tournament isn't any kind of proof that he's the greatest European player, or whatever else people are saying.

While some are trying to discredit Stephano maliciously, that doesn't mean the points raised by others aren't legitimate.


Really? Is every north american contaminated with ignorance now? Do you know anything about the european scene? Stephano is winning absolutely everything and european players are miles ahead of NA players, so Stephano is obviously the best foreigner, how can you even doubt that? You should watch some EU tournament streams or his own stream and stop being so goddamn ignorant.

you call people out for discrediting his win and then do exactly the same and it's all based on typical north american ignorance, it's not just americans I've made the experience that canadians can and actually are a million times more ignorant than americans, there's just so few of them that nobody usually cares about them.
RPR_Tempest
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Australia7799 Posts
October 10 2011 04:25 GMT
#18235
Wow, hopefully Stephano accepts the invitation to Blizzard Cup, would love to see how good he is against top tier Koreans. NesTea vs Stephano would be an amazing ZvZ.
Soundwave, Zerg player from Canberra, Australia. @SoundwaveSC
Arnstein
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Norway3381 Posts
October 10 2011 04:25 GMT
#18236
OMG, Stephano is soooo good <3 love that guy!
rsol in response to the dragoon voice being heard in SCII: dragoon ai reaches new lows: wanders into wrong game
Kammalleri
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada613 Posts
October 10 2011 04:26 GMT
#18237
I didn't get to watch much of IPL because of work, but what Stephano just accomplished is really impressive.

I've always seen Stephano mostly as a ZvP guy. I mostly notice him from tournies for taking out top protosses, but he showed he's great in every matchups.

The list of top players was really impressive at IPL, he took out Huk, Kiwikaki, Violet, TheSTC and Lucky, among others.

I think everybody would have liked to see him vs MMA, but it didn't happen. STC is still really solid TvZ.

It's really cool to see one more guy that always does good in tournaments get his first big win. Hopefully he builds up on it!
usethis2
Profile Joined December 2010
2164 Posts
October 10 2011 04:28 GMT
#18238
On October 10 2011 13:21 wklbishop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2011 13:15 ValValianT wrote:
uhh, what stephano did in this tournament has NEVER been done by any foreigner(in sc2). And if that doesn't constitute greatness I don't know what is. Its kind of funny, but reading half these post I realize these ppl haven't even watched the game! Yet they're trying to talk as if they know something? W got some sad trolls her.


Idra in IEM Guangzhou and to a lesser extent, Naama in DH Winter?

Stephano is amazing, but saying the way you said it kind of insults other players and people in general.

I wish they release the replays so that I can directly compare the Idra and stephano, with my protoss-eyes-for-zerg-guys. I compared Idra's replays with DRG's (from DH) and I could say with confidence that Idra is below DRG when it comes to multitasking/macro/micro.
SPQR13
Profile Joined June 2011
181 Posts
October 10 2011 04:28 GMT
#18239
On October 10 2011 12:17 Ruscour wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2011 12:16 MyNameIsAlex wrote:
On October 10 2011 12:15 Hall0wed wrote:
Boy did Stephano ever get some help from the bracket. He had by far the easiest path, wow.


Stephano 2-0 Anypro
Stephano 2-1 Axslav
Stephano 2-1 MarineKing
Stephano 2-1 Socke
Stephano 2-1 Revival
Stephano 2-0 Puzzle
Stephano 2-1 KiWiKaKi
Stephano 2-1 MMA
Stephano 2-0 Huk
Stephano 2-0 Boxer

Stephano 2-1 KiWiKaKi
Stephano 2-0 Violet
Stephano 2-1 Inori
Stephano 3-1 TheStC
Stephano 4-0 Lucky

yeah he only beat MKP, Socke, Revival, Puzzle, MMA and Boxer to get into the tournament...


haters gonna hate.

online means nothing, sorry


so does your opinion
Yamulo
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States2096 Posts
October 10 2011 04:28 GMT
#18240
On October 10 2011 13:24 Denzil wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2011 13:21 wklbishop wrote:
On October 10 2011 13:15 ValValianT wrote:
uhh, what stephano did in this tournament has NEVER been done by any foreigner(in sc2). And if that doesn't constitute greatness I don't know what is. Its kind of funny, but reading half these post I realize these ppl haven't even watched the game! Yet they're trying to talk as if they know something? W got some sad trolls her.


Idra in IEM Guangzhou and to a lesser extent, Naama in DH Winter?

Stephano is amazing, but saying the way you said it kind of insults other players and people in general.


Huk Dreamhack. HuK Homestory to a much lesser extent I guess.

Well huk homestory kind of overlaps with huk Dreamhack because the biggest criticism (from slasher at least) was that huk did not beat MC or bomber at dh but he made up for it at Homestory if that makes any sense. It also proved that he is consistently a badass.
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