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If you don't know how to post in a live report thread by now, be advised: don't whine about game balance and don't bash players/casters/interviewers/staff/other posters. We are monitoring this thread closely.

Stop with the USA USA chant shit. Further offenses beyond page 493 will be met with bans. You've been warned.
stevorino
Profile Joined April 2011
957 Posts
October 09 2011 19:24 GMT
#7421
come one stephano!
[_] Terran [_] Zerg [_] Protoss [X] Random ------- Fantasy - hyvaa - sOs
Deleted User 47542
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
1484 Posts
October 09 2011 19:24 GMT
#7422
On October 10 2011 04:24 cold- wrote:
well Idra got to RO8 , not that bad althought im pretty sure he had the potential to beat everyone. im just pissed that it was MC who told stc wat to do in between games. this should be disallowed.

nope
Fandango
Profile Joined October 2011
291 Posts
October 09 2011 19:24 GMT
#7423
I really do wish they'd make scouting before Lair a reasonable proposition, the maps keep getting bigger but the overlords stay the same speed and terran still has a borderline ridiculous ability to hide information while going for very divergent timing pushes that require specific and focused responses that aren't interchangeable for other builds. The same thing happens in TvP and it's the reason why terran can look really silly sometimes and it's so damn easy to fix for zerg.

When such varying timing pushes exist that don't require proxy buildings or other big risks, you either need to be able to scout them, they need to require such specific gas timings that you can tell with a drone scout roughly where they're going, or they need to be less strong.
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-09 19:25:05
October 09 2011 19:24 GMT
#7424
I'd rather have Stephano play any matchup other than ZvP - this is going to be really hard - but oh well, I hope he pulls through and gets to play the remaining Korean Terrans.
beamingrobot
Profile Joined October 2010
United States685 Posts
October 09 2011 19:24 GMT
#7425
On October 10 2011 04:22 Garnet wrote:
You can tell by the reaction of the crowd. stc ruining esports. Thx for game 2 anyway.


Ruining esports? Well this is dumb, might as well just ask stc to throw his games and let Idra win. That will help esports right?
Roggay
Profile Joined April 2010
Switzerland6320 Posts
October 09 2011 19:24 GMT
#7426
On October 10 2011 04:23 ZenithM wrote:
Damn, I'm Protoss, and I'm French...
Better root for Team USA!

Makes sense.
dinmsab
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Malaysia2246 Posts
October 09 2011 19:24 GMT
#7427
that headgear gives +10 apm.

Go Stephano!!!!
..
Postman
Profile Joined July 2010
United States269 Posts
October 09 2011 19:24 GMT
#7428
On October 10 2011 04:19 Piggiez wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2011 04:17 Mactator wrote:
bad design. Stc finds a hole and is lucky IdrA doesn't know ..

Shit feeling.. sometimes I hate this game


...TheStC's skill level is on par with IdrA's if not better. He's actually a really good player

TheStC showed that he's no where near Idra's level as a mechanical player. He went CC first on Shakuras Plateu and cut every corner possible to macro up and still got clowned by Idra's macro mechanics.

He showed that Idra is still weak to really strong semi-allin aggression builds, as Idra always has been. TheStC was the better strategist today, nowhere near the better (or even skill) player.
duct_TAPE
Profile Joined May 2011
492 Posts
October 09 2011 19:24 GMT
#7429
On October 10 2011 04:19 betaman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2011 04:14 Alderan wrote:
That's infuriating...... You can't watch that series and say the STC was the better player.


yes you can


STC himself saying he sucks against zerg
"WHAT!? but I thought there was only one way in Canada!" "Yeah, and y'all went the wrong direction on it"
Rinrun
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada3509 Posts
October 09 2011 19:25 GMT
#7430
On October 10 2011 04:23 Necro)Phagist( wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2011 04:21 Lixo wrote:
All the hate on Idra and EG in general entertains me, keep it up guys !

hate on Idra and EG? Are we reading the same thread?

Lol anything that isn't good about them = hate.
MBC/Liquid/TSM always.
Wren
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States745 Posts
October 09 2011 19:25 GMT
#7431
On October 10 2011 04:23 The KY wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2011 04:17 Strike_ wrote:
how can you scout marauders when you are being contained by hellions what


The marauders are incidental imo, the hellions do the real damage. Marauders or not you can hold it the same way. Spines that don't allow run bys and enough of them so you don't have to trade lings repeatedly.

That's the strength of it; if he has pretty much only lings you can keep running in and whittling them down and never let him get a large enough number of them.

Sorry zergs but one spine on Shattered against reactor hellion - no man. That's not gonna cut it.

Without the marauders, spines are actually useful. With marauders, spines evaporate.
We're here! We're queer! We don't want any more bears!
Artok
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands2219 Posts
October 09 2011 19:25 GMT
#7432
On October 10 2011 04:23 Elean wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2011 04:22 Artok wrote:
On October 10 2011 04:21 Killmouse wrote:
On October 10 2011 04:20 lacho_u wrote:
stephano weakest mu is zvp no ?

2-0 huk

zvz is his weakest, at least according to liquidpedia

No, it's really zvp.

His zvz is really good, maybe the best in europe.

quote from liquidpedia:
According to him, his weakest match-up is ZvZ and his strongest is ZvT.
Chun-li since ST
Oboeman
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada3980 Posts
October 09 2011 19:25 GMT
#7433
Idra's build was only safe if stc stops at 2-4 hellions and then doesn't attack again until 12 minutes.
Belano
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Sweden657 Posts
October 09 2011 19:25 GMT
#7434
On October 10 2011 04:24 Thrax wrote:
Last foreigner vs last protoss.

And Stephano is nowhere near the top of EU and hasn't been for a bit. He's 16th currently, 150 points behind.

Ladder ranking doesn't really mean shit though. I think Stephano has this.
Bring back 1 supply roaches.
mitthrawn
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany443 Posts
October 09 2011 19:25 GMT
#7435
Go Frenchie boy! Do it like your rugby bros yesterday!
/o\
Xcobidoo
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden1871 Posts
October 09 2011 19:25 GMT
#7436
On October 10 2011 04:24 Belano wrote:
Would it have helped if Idra had queens on the ramp? So sad to see him go when he was clearly the better player

Not really when the marauders came out
Supreme Intergalactic Commander
dangerjoe
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark1866 Posts
October 09 2011 19:25 GMT
#7437
I want a protoss to move on. But I also want a non-korean to move on.
Crap.
Ask Beavis, I get nothing Butt-head
Snusdosa
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden112 Posts
October 09 2011 19:25 GMT
#7438
Someone sure is maaad ... now now :D The stc is Korean, it's a disgrace he even lost a game in the series to IdrA


Tbh, IdrA seems overall better at the moment. Both TheSTCs wins were kinda all in, first one was straight out cheese, second one needs to kill off the zerg before the mutas pop, one more crawler for IdrA probably would've won him the game.
Micket
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom2163 Posts
October 09 2011 19:25 GMT
#7439
This reminded me of the build Keen did against Bboongbbonng in GSTL, which was incredibly deadly. Basically, Terran can use reactor hellions and do basically anything afterwards, and it is incredibly hard to scout.

Hellion/marauder all in timing: need asap mutas
hellion/marauder after expand without stim: need wall in + mass ling bling
hellion double expand: need to do roach bane all in
hellion into cloaked banshee: need very fast evo
hellion into 2 port banshee: need to rush mutas/hydras
double reactor hellion: need roaches
slayers blueflame drop: need ling bling spread creep in main

There are more but I can't be bothered to say.
Clog
Profile Joined January 2011
United States950 Posts
October 09 2011 19:25 GMT
#7440
On October 10 2011 04:22 sereniity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2011 04:20 Pulimuli wrote:
On October 10 2011 04:19 Perseverance wrote:
On October 10 2011 04:18 Pulimuli wrote:
people bashing on TheStC and calling him a cheesy noob are retarded

period

he has sick skills, both in BW and SC2


my take on it is that StC knows idra will crush him lategame...so he took his only option.


Thats because TvZ lategame is the way it is?

the dude was a legit progamer in BW, its not like he doesnt know how to play. If someone makes 1 spinecrawler and dies to early aggression its more a fail from the zerg than a cheese from the terran..


I can't believe ppl are so clueless, naming so stupid counters. Yeah sure man, spine crawlers totally don't get completely shit on by stimmed marauders? a queen at the ramp doesnt neither right? I honestly don't know the proper counter to this but the ones you guys are naming are pretty dumb, unless we're talking 6 spine crawlers here which doesn't really come up in time I believe.

i play terran btw, really sad to see IdrA go out like this -.-


The counter is mutas, but with a combined build time of over 3 minutes of Lair - Spire - Mutalisk, you need to get the quick mutas blindly, sniff out the attack really early, or delay the push like a madman.
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