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Standard LR thread rules apply. No caster bashing, no insulting the interviewers, no player bashing, no balance whining. Bans will be doled out to violators so don't shit up this thread with immature garbage.
Rinrun
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada3509 Posts
October 08 2011 19:18 GMT
#5721
Close by air on Metal. Hmmm.
MBC/Liquid/TSM always.
Vertical
Profile Joined July 2011
Indonesia4317 Posts
October 08 2011 19:18 GMT
#5722
this game felt so anticlimatic compared to the game before this
-Terran-
deathly rat
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United Kingdom911 Posts
October 08 2011 19:18 GMT
#5723
game 2 metalopolis

slush at 6 -o'clock, white ra close by air at 8 o'clock
No logo (logo)
Tommylew
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Wales2717 Posts
October 08 2011 19:18 GMT
#5724
come on white0ra and MC!!!
Live and Let Die!
clusen
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany8702 Posts
October 08 2011 19:18 GMT
#5725
On October 09 2011 04:17 jazzyjazz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2011 04:17 Kamikazess wrote:
Every time I play Shakuras as Zerg, against Protoss, I always lose. That map has something bad for zergs.


extremely easy to defend natural for protoss =P no, but i think white-ra played better that game.

If they FFE you have an easy third, Shakuras is good for Zerg vs Toss :p
Feartheguru
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada1334 Posts
October 08 2011 19:18 GMT
#5726
lol give a cheer or slush ---> "gribbit"
give a cheer for whitera ----> "WOOOOO"
Don't sweat the petty stuff, don't pet the sweaty stuff.
c0ldfusion
Profile Joined October 2010
United States8293 Posts
October 08 2011 19:19 GMT
#5727
On October 09 2011 04:16 amazingoopah wrote:
oh boy, I can just see the 500+ pages of rage if puma 1/1/1/'s whitera


I hope Puma does it, especially after Whitera archon toilet bowled Idra last night
Vocal
Profile Joined October 2011
116 Posts
October 08 2011 19:19 GMT
#5728
On October 09 2011 04:16 HolydaKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2011 04:15 Vocal wrote:
Why the hell are people bitching about 1/1/1? Or the proxies? It's called strategy. These pros play to win, and if that strategy wins games, then use it. What the hell are all of you bitching about?

Keeping the balance discussion out, let's just assume 1/1/1 is "overpowered". Who gives a shit? A lot of you seem to value "honorable" play, like these guys are like Knights of Chivalry in a duel for their King or some shit. They're playing a competitive video game for money. At the end of the day that's that.

We give a shit... many people are tired of terrans winning most of the games vs Protoss. Although i myself don't care THAT much.


Terrans are the best race right now. It's the way things are. If people hate that fact so much, they have a million other things they can do. How is cluttering pages and pages of threads on Teamliquid going to change that fact?
Clog
Profile Joined January 2011
United States950 Posts
October 08 2011 19:19 GMT
#5729
On October 09 2011 04:17 ZaaaaaM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2011 04:16 Clog wrote:
GGs, Slush going so heavy on lings against a heavy zealot - colo combo seems.... questionable lol

Not much else u can build if you're going muta's....


True true Didn't think about that since the mutas weren't out during the push
NesTea | LosirA | MVP | CoCa | Nada | Ryung | DRG | YongHwa
ChaosTerran
Profile Joined August 2011
Austria844 Posts
October 08 2011 19:19 GMT
#5730
On October 09 2011 04:08 Piledriver wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2011 04:02 doko100 wrote:
On October 09 2011 04:01 beamingrobot wrote:
On October 09 2011 03:59 JoeSchmoe wrote:
On October 09 2011 03:58 Apollo_Shards wrote:
On October 09 2011 03:57 Jtom wrote:
Hero had an excess of 400 minerals after he put down the nexus and he had no warpgate cycles available. It didn't matter that he spent the money on that nexus.


I completely agree. He couldn't get out gateways in time.


that's not a excuse for putting down a nexus. that's him not macroing well on 4gates 1 base


Are you serious? Did you not see the constant chrono on the gates?


Are YOU kidding? If you can't keep your money low on 1 base with 4 gates and 1 robo (+ DT tech and upgrades) you are doing it wrong, honestly.




You're blind. HerO's gates got destroyed during the contain, thus causing him to not have enough production.

Jeez, makes me wonder if you guys were even watching the game.


Yes 1 gate got destroyed 1 minute before puma pushed in, and you don't spend 800 minerals with 1 gate in a minute, ITS NOT POSSIBLE. it is however possible to spend all your money with 3 gates and a robo, you know that when you 4 gate you even run out of minerals after a while? its exactly the same concept just that now he even had 1 extra building to help him keep his money low and he still ended up with 800 overmins, 1 gate doesnt make a difference. seriously some of you really aren't the brightest sparks I gotta say.
Kamikazess
Profile Joined February 2011
Brazil400 Posts
October 08 2011 19:19 GMT
#5731
Slush invested too much in those mutas, and because of that the ground army was really small.
What we do in life, echoes in eternity.
AdreN-
Profile Joined November 2010
United States503 Posts
October 08 2011 19:19 GMT
#5732
Does Reign not have a jersey? Noticed that Slush is just wearing a yellow hoodie.
Newtype2k6
Profile Joined September 2010
United States88 Posts
October 08 2011 19:19 GMT
#5733
On October 09 2011 04:15 Vocal wrote:
Why the hell are people bitching about 1/1/1? Or the proxies? It's called strategy. These pros play to win, and if that strategy wins games, then use it. What the hell are all of you bitching about?

Keeping the balance discussion out, let's just assume 1/1/1 is "overpowered". Who gives a shit? A lot of you seem to value "honorable" play, like these guys are like Knights of Chivalry in a duel for their King or some shit. They're playing a competitive video game for money. At the end of the day that's that.



This is exactly why people are frustrated with the 1/1/1. Puma basically just netted mad money for a strategy that always wins. Hero is being denied a paycheck not because of his skill, but because his race is getting throttled by one strategy.
minhbq299
Profile Joined May 2011
United Kingdom566 Posts
October 08 2011 19:19 GMT
#5734
On October 09 2011 04:17 FairForever wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2011 04:16 minhbq299 wrote:
On October 09 2011 04:07 doko100 wrote:
On October 09 2011 04:03 BoBiNoU wrote:
On October 09 2011 04:00 Whiteman103 wrote:
On October 09 2011 04:00 BoBiNoU wrote:
On October 09 2011 03:58 arfyron wrote:
On October 09 2011 03:57 worldchrisis wrote:
Fuck Terran. Ban me I don't care. Fuck Terran and fuck Puma for just 111 cheesing every game against Protosss


You undermine your arguments when you say puma 111s every game when that is clearly not true.


Is there actually one BoX where Puma DID not 1-1-1 at least one game in TvP ?
I dont think so.

Sad for Hero who was a beast on this one.



yes NASL finales


did you watch those games ?
He 1-1-1 at least 2 of the 3 games he won -_-


he didn't 1-1-1 at all, get your facts straight.


LOL he did 1-1-1 2 out of 3 games played, it's a best of 5 not best of 7 like someone said, did you even watch the game, PUMA is the most disgusting player ever, he always throw 1-1-1 in hard situation.


LOL fail at correcting. It was a BO7, and he didn't 1-1-1 at all. We're talking about NASL here, genius. You're talking about IEM Cologne.


ah sorry that was IEM cologne )
SlayerS_Puzzle, oGsMC, Liquid'Hero, FXOz, ST.Parting, , NSHoseoJjakji, SlayerS_CoCa, DRG
me_viet
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Australia1350 Posts
October 08 2011 19:19 GMT
#5735
On October 09 2011 04:05 Feartheguru wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2011 04:03 Yenticha wrote:
On October 09 2011 04:01 beamingrobot wrote:
On October 09 2011 03:59 JoeSchmoe wrote:
On October 09 2011 03:58 Apollo_Shards wrote:
On October 09 2011 03:57 Jtom wrote:
Hero had an excess of 400 minerals after he put down the nexus and he had no warpgate cycles available. It didn't matter that he spent the money on that nexus.


I completely agree. He couldn't get out gateways in time.


that's not a excuse for putting down a nexus. that's him not macroing well on 4gates 1 base


Are you serious? Did you not see the constant chrono on the gates?



Whatever. It all comes down to bad macro. He could have had an extra gateway...
Not saying Hero is bad, the game was awesome and Puma played brilliantly. Just saying that the extra nexus sounded like "obvious" macro mistake...


So protoss makes a few small mistakes auto game over. Terran makes a bunch of mistakes no problem. How could I never have thought of this. DAVID KIM HIRE THIS MAN.



What mistake did puma make that game?

Hero's mistakes:

-letting the scv scout his base, alerting puma to the threat of proxy (no expo/gates in base)
-Cancelling the Voidray while building after spending the chronos on it.
-Not throwing down extra gates when his 2 gates started getting shelled
-Planted Nexus + pylon instead at 3o'clock after killing all scv's
-FF'ing his dt's from hitting the marines
-(not sure why he went dt's after seeing the raven out. Even after seeing the scv's all-in).


jazzyjazz
Profile Joined October 2010
941 Posts
October 08 2011 19:19 GMT
#5736
On October 09 2011 04:18 Courstice wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2011 04:16 HolydaKing wrote:
On October 09 2011 04:15 Vocal wrote:
Why the hell are people bitching about 1/1/1? Or the proxies? It's called strategy. These pros play to win, and if that strategy wins games, then use it. What the hell are all of you bitching about?

Keeping the balance discussion out, let's just assume 1/1/1 is "overpowered". Who gives a shit? A lot of you seem to value "honorable" play, like these guys are like Knights of Chivalry in a duel for their King or some shit. They're playing a competitive video game for money. At the end of the day that's that.

We give a shit... many people are tired of terrans winning most of the games vs Protoss. Although i myself don't care THAT much.


Yeah but the players and PuMa don't give a shit if you give a shit. Play to win. Blame Blizz not PuMa.


Don't hate the player, hate the game.
Eat emmmmmmmmmm
provrorsbarn
Profile Joined January 2011
Sweden766 Posts
October 08 2011 19:19 GMT
#5737
White-ra reminds me of Thom Yorke when they do that close-up shot on him
Im just a zerg
Dikkbutt
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden193 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-08 19:21:14
October 08 2011 19:19 GMT
#5738
On October 09 2011 04:16 ParasitJonte wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2011 04:11 Dikkbutt wrote:
One game doesnt make the balance, and it was a wierd one at that so just stop it. It is impossbile to compare two completly different races when talking balance. Statstic is the only thing you can really use. (Which clearly states terran is favored but taht another discussion which doesnt fit in this threa).


One game?

ONE GAME?

Have you been following the scene at all? It's ALL games. I can't remember the last time I saw a protoss win a 1 base terran all-in based on the 1-1-1.

This whole series was one big testament of everything that's wrong with PvT. Hero played better in all games, yet he lost. Winning one game just barely.

And all the time people only write about the protoss mistakes. No one seems to care that the winning terran makes a thousand mistakes as well. But people want to rationalize it. People booed the last game for a reason.


Yes, well these players arent arguing general vs 1-1-1, they are going thorugh different senarios of this particular game and trying to convince a matchup is imbalanced, which is not the way to go. (terrans doing the same). I play protoss myself and i know pvt isnt balance. but using statistics is just a much better way to prove wheather a matchup is balanced or not.
howdy
deathly rat
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United Kingdom911 Posts
October 08 2011 19:20 GMT
#5739
On October 09 2011 04:18 deathly rat wrote:
game 2 metalopolis

slush at 6 -o'clock, white ra close by air at 8 o'clock


slush goes 14 gas 14 pool, white ra forge first
No logo (logo)
Vertical
Profile Joined July 2011
Indonesia4317 Posts
October 08 2011 19:20 GMT
#5740
whatd did ra do besides playing SC2 for a living ?
-Terran-
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