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Remember guys; no caster bashing, balancing whining or player abuse - you guys should know this by now!
yawnoC
Profile Joined December 2010
United States3704 Posts
October 08 2011 01:58 GMT
#8981
I have no problem with idra forfeiting the rest of his games if he is really that tired ESPECIALLY since there were so many delays because of the fiber today.

As a fan I would rather him rest now and play 100% tomorrow when the games TRULY matter rather than play exhausted now and also be exhausted tomorrow and have to play.
GG - UNiVeRsE is the best player in the WORLD
happyness
Profile Joined June 2010
United States2400 Posts
October 08 2011 01:58 GMT
#8982
On October 08 2011 10:55 -_- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2011 10:53 happyness wrote:
On October 08 2011 10:49 -_- wrote:
On October 08 2011 10:46 Purdy8 wrote:
On October 08 2011 10:45 -_- wrote:
Lol, do HD and Pain not understand that Idra was dead.


Do you not understand he wasn't ?


I don't mean to be rude, but you believe Idra wasn't absolutely dead, you do not understand PvZ.

1) Idra starving. Mined out main, and nat and third nearly out.

2) No gas.

3) Broodlords dead. Impossible to remake (no gas). With broodlords dead, colli, stalker, archon, mothership (will be rebuilt) comp crush roach infestor.

4) Whitera 2 fresh bases (4 and 5).



I think you are the one who doesn't understand.

1) White-ra's attack didn't trade cost efficiently enough, and was behind in supply when Idra left

2) White-ra wouldn't have enough gas to get that super ball again

3) Mothership dead, along with few colossus, hard to remake

4) Idra had enough minerals to start fresh bases of his own


I respectfully disagree, but I don't think it's worth either of our time to argue about it further. Enjoy the games :p


I do think White-ra was ahead, but it was far from hopeless for idra. When toss loses important units they are in trouble.

Oh I will
MichaelJLowell
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States610 Posts
October 08 2011 01:59 GMT
#8983
Oh, IdrA, you're the gift that keeps on quitting.
http://www.learntocounter.com - I'm a "known troll" so please disconnect your kid's computer when I am on the forums.
TORTOISE
Profile Joined December 2010
United States515 Posts
October 08 2011 01:59 GMT
#8984
American TV watchers call any woman fat who isn't a skeletor.
◕ ‿‿ ◕ ๑•́ ₃ •̀๑ ( ͡ ° ͜ ʖ ͡°)
mango_destroyer
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada3914 Posts
October 08 2011 01:59 GMT
#8985
On October 08 2011 10:55 ellirc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2011 10:54 xCenasfu wrote:
On October 08 2011 10:53 Eisenheim wrote:
Seriously IdrA, "china time"..


He just arrived from China a day ago..

So what? He needs to grow some fucking balls.


He doesn`t care about the fans anyway or the scene. Imagine if all players had this attitude.
blizzind
Profile Joined February 2010
United States642 Posts
October 08 2011 01:59 GMT
#8986
probably figured he had no chance at getting top 2 anymore so he just quit
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42381 Posts
October 08 2011 01:59 GMT
#8987
On October 08 2011 10:57 Jyvblamo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2011 10:55 Plansix wrote:
On October 08 2011 10:53 Eisenheim wrote:
Seriously IdrA, "china time"..

Jet lag is brutal. If you have never experienced it, it can take several days to get back to normal. SC2 is a game of focus.

Somehow the Koreans manage.


Koreans got there earlier afaik.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
Zooper31
Profile Joined May 2009
United States5711 Posts
October 08 2011 01:59 GMT
#8988
On October 08 2011 10:57 Jyvblamo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2011 10:55 Plansix wrote:
On October 08 2011 10:53 Eisenheim wrote:
Seriously IdrA, "china time"..

Jet lag is brutal. If you have never experienced it, it can take several days to get back to normal. SC2 is a game of focus.

Somehow the Koreans manage.


They also don't get their games postponed several hours on top of the jetlag.
Asato ma sad gamaya, tamaso ma jyotir gamaya, mrtyor mamrtam gamaya
Kamikazess
Profile Joined February 2011
Brazil400 Posts
October 08 2011 01:59 GMT
#8989
That Idra rage against Mana is amazing.
What we do in life, echoes in eternity.
darklight54321
Profile Joined July 2011
United States361 Posts
October 08 2011 01:59 GMT
#8990
On October 08 2011 10:57 Hrrrrm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2011 10:56 forgottendreams wrote:
On October 08 2011 10:55 ellirc wrote:
On October 08 2011 10:54 xCenasfu wrote:
On October 08 2011 10:53 Eisenheim wrote:
Seriously IdrA, "china time"..


He just arrived from China a day ago..

So what? He needs to grow some fucking balls.


Yeah not like coming from an almost opposite timezone doesn't effect your play and head.


You see the Koreans crying?



Koreans didn't go from america to korea, then back to america in one week with two competitions.

Idra could have cumulative jet lag, rather then just one jet lag.
SPQR13
Profile Joined June 2011
181 Posts
October 08 2011 01:59 GMT
#8991
On October 08 2011 10:47 Alric wrote:
People saying "oh Idra was dead" - no, he was behind but not dead. You still fight it out because your opponent can make a mistake.

are you serious? mistake like what ?
instead of just pressing a-move, going simple move ?
IM_Megan
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands744 Posts
October 08 2011 01:59 GMT
#8992
On October 08 2011 10:58 s3183529 wrote:
Sorry, noob question, what's the different between the vortex before and now? Why are people asking why archon toilet still works?


when vortex finished units do not attack for 1 second, it used to be instant attack.
Please follow me on http://www.justin.tv/meganeu Thanks alot! <3
Kimla
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden400 Posts
October 08 2011 01:59 GMT
#8993
On October 08 2011 10:57 Lamphead wrote:
honestly you guys are missing the real point, the competition is so stacked there really is no point in playing these matches, he could end up coming in 3rd instead of 4th which is in all likelihood the best he could pull off after losing to White Ra and for his troubles he could get someone like Thorzain instead of Sleep..


If he was a real man he would atleast play the games and try show intressenting games for the community / fans. This is just bullshit.
no gg no skill
s3183529
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia707 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-08 01:59:41
October 08 2011 01:59 GMT
#8994
ELA
Profile Joined April 2010
Denmark4608 Posts
October 08 2011 01:59 GMT
#8995
I agree, it's extremely unprofessional towards the tournament and towards the fans to just not care and not play any of his matches..

Jetlag or not, I've had to deal with it myself with work, you don't just go "Sry, im tired", especially when there are so many people who are there to watch you Ô_Ô
The first link of chain forged, the first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably.
The KY
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United Kingdom6252 Posts
October 08 2011 02:00 GMT
#8996
On October 08 2011 10:57 Hrrrrm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2011 10:56 forgottendreams wrote:
On October 08 2011 10:55 ellirc wrote:
On October 08 2011 10:54 xCenasfu wrote:
On October 08 2011 10:53 Eisenheim wrote:
Seriously IdrA, "china time"..


He just arrived from China a day ago..

So what? He needs to grow some fucking balls.


Yeah not like coming from an almost opposite timezone doesn't effect your play and head.


You see the Koreans crying?


He loses nothing by not playing the groups, they're pretty much meaningless. If he doesn't want to play them who the fuck cares.

And yes, I seem to remember an MLG where Idra 2-0ed MC in the first game of the tourney and MC blamed jet lag.

Meself
Profile Joined February 2011
Estonia552 Posts
October 08 2011 02:00 GMT
#8997
I didn't realize White-Ra played Idra on the same positions on Taldarim he had in the last game against Nerchio in IPL3 finals.
Haydin
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1481 Posts
October 08 2011 02:00 GMT
#8998
On October 08 2011 10:54 Duravi wrote:
Pathetic. Don't his sponsors/team care that he is giving them less exposure?


So idra's reputation doesn't give them an incredible amount of exposure? Every time he looses forums explode and compilation videos are made. Every time he wins the same thing happens. Being the "Bad Guy" of SC2 has actually turned out really, really well for him, even if it's not something he intended to do.
aka ilovesharkpeople
Jehct
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
New Zealand9115 Posts
October 08 2011 02:00 GMT
#8999
I actually think Idra's move here was pretty respectable. Should he play out his group play for a seed and stay exhausted for the rest of the tournament, playing well below his best? Or bow out, giving up on $1k/$500 and accepting that he'll have to play someone like Alive or MC first round?

Seriously, it's a hard choice. Applause to Idra for taking an arguably harder option which gives him no excuses. How many pros in his place would have the confidence to skip group play knowing that, as much as everyone downplays it, seeds in this tournament are a pretty huge deal. If you could play Alive or Boxer, who do you think most would choose? How would MC or Ret? Being the 4th seed is kinda a big deal, as hard as the tournament will be for all.
"You seem to think about this game a lot"
ODKStevez
Profile Joined February 2011
Ireland1225 Posts
October 08 2011 02:00 GMT
#9000
On October 08 2011 10:58 happyness wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2011 10:55 -_- wrote:
On October 08 2011 10:53 happyness wrote:
On October 08 2011 10:49 -_- wrote:
On October 08 2011 10:46 Purdy8 wrote:
On October 08 2011 10:45 -_- wrote:
Lol, do HD and Pain not understand that Idra was dead.


Do you not understand he wasn't ?


I don't mean to be rude, but you believe Idra wasn't absolutely dead, you do not understand PvZ.

1) Idra starving. Mined out main, and nat and third nearly out.

2) No gas.

3) Broodlords dead. Impossible to remake (no gas). With broodlords dead, colli, stalker, archon, mothership (will be rebuilt) comp crush roach infestor.

4) Whitera 2 fresh bases (4 and 5).



I think you are the one who doesn't understand.

1) White-ra's attack didn't trade cost efficiently enough, and was behind in supply when Idra left

2) White-ra wouldn't have enough gas to get that super ball again

3) Mothership dead, along with few colossus, hard to remake

4) Idra had enough minerals to start fresh bases of his own


Bottom line, IdrA had no gas left =-/
I respectfully disagree, but I don't think it's worth either of our time to argue about it further. Enjoy the games :p


I do think White-ra was ahead, but it was far from hopeless for idra. When toss loses important units they are in trouble.

Oh I will

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