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On October 08 2011 10:53 happyness wrote:Show nested quote +On October 08 2011 10:49 -_- wrote:On October 08 2011 10:46 Purdy8 wrote:On October 08 2011 10:45 -_- wrote: Lol, do HD and Pain not understand that Idra was dead. Do you not understand he wasn't ? I don't mean to be rude, but you believe Idra wasn't absolutely dead, you do not understand PvZ. 1) Idra starving. Mined out main, and nat and third nearly out. 2) No gas. 3) Broodlords dead. Impossible to remake (no gas). With broodlords dead, colli, stalker, archon, mothership (will be rebuilt) comp crush roach infestor. 4) Whitera 2 fresh bases (4 and 5). I think you are the one who doesn't understand. 1) White-ra's attack didn't trade cost efficiently enough, and was behind in supply when Idra left 2) White-ra wouldn't have enough gas to get that super ball again 3) Mothership dead, along with few colossus, hard to remake 4) Idra had enough minerals to start fresh bases of his own
I don't understand what your trying to say. Whitera was banking 3000 - 1500. He could Make 4 - 6 archons and lots of zealots and idra cannot do anything as he could only afford a few roaches + zerglings. Whitera was ahead on bases as well. Until idra had enough forces, he would have lost his fourth and it would be 3 bases to 5 bases.
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Idra shows again how little he cares about the community.
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On October 08 2011 10:54 Brett wrote:Show nested quote +On October 08 2011 10:51 usethis2 wrote:On October 08 2011 10:50 Mioraka wrote: Holy fuck rachael is so hot! >_>
She looks fat to me. You don't have to find her attractive... But calling her fat is fucking retarded.
yea that women has some nice curves cant believe the nerds here trying to down play her lol
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On October 08 2011 10:50 Exarl25 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 08 2011 10:48 BrodiaQ wrote:On October 08 2011 10:46 Exarl25 wrote: Seriously what the fuck was that? Is IdrA throwing games to try and make Protoss look OP? His macro was absolutely atrocious, he was floating 4k+ minerals pretty much the entire time. What the hell is the point in making so many Drones if you aren't even going to use them? He was maxed. lol. And zergs need that Spine crawler buffer late game, thus why he over droned so much, so he could do that. Idra played a solid game. White ra pretty nullified too much of idra's army with the archon toilet. Did you seriously watch the game? He was floating tons of money way before he was maxed, he broke 5k minerals on 160 supply and rarely went below 4k. That game was far from solid.
minerals yes. Gas no (except in the phase where his spire was sniped and he was banking until it was rebuilt).
Should he max out on zerglings which are pretty useless at that phase and throw those into ra's army simply to keep his money low?
He built drones and spines, thats pretty much all he could do at that point to "sink" minerals. He should have expanded and tried to take 2 gas bases, but white-ra's warp prism denied that. Sucks to be Idra, but whitera played a very strong game (on a map version which makes it very difficult for Zerg. That front wall was almost impossible to break without broods).
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On October 08 2011 10:54 cold- wrote: ipl fucked over IdrA completely... imagine ur thinking ur going to play at 5PM and schedule ur sleep for that etc. and then uend up playing at 9:00 PM
Okay, yeah that is awful. IGN should have rescheduled if they had technical difficulties : /
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On October 08 2011 10:54 Necro)Phagist( wrote:Show nested quote +On October 08 2011 10:52 murkk wrote: BTW, aren't these games just for show. They really don't mean all that much (the seeding is sort of irrelevant with the open being so good). Group winner gets better seed and $1k cash prize so they do mean something(runner up gets $500)
yeah i dont get why people say seeding isnt important. if you lose too much you have to play much more games to get to the finals. isnt it just like MLG?
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On October 08 2011 10:54 jmbthirteen wrote:I actually believe it. He got to IPL at 12 am on Thursday so he is definitely gonna be jetlagged coming from China. Why didn't he just forfeit before the match with Whitera then?
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isn't it only 10pm there right now?
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On October 08 2011 10:53 happyness wrote:Show nested quote +On October 08 2011 10:49 -_- wrote:On October 08 2011 10:46 Purdy8 wrote:On October 08 2011 10:45 -_- wrote: Lol, do HD and Pain not understand that Idra was dead. Do you not understand he wasn't ? I don't mean to be rude, but you believe Idra wasn't absolutely dead, you do not understand PvZ. 1) Idra starving. Mined out main, and nat and third nearly out. 2) No gas. 3) Broodlords dead. Impossible to remake (no gas). With broodlords dead, colli, stalker, archon, mothership (will be rebuilt) comp crush roach infestor. 4) Whitera 2 fresh bases (4 and 5). I think you are the one who doesn't understand. 1) White-ra's attack didn't trade cost efficiently enough, and was behind in supply when Idra left 2) White-ra wouldn't have enough gas to get that super ball again 3) Mothership dead, along with few colossus, hard to remake 4) Idra had enough minerals to start fresh bases of his own how much gas of brood/infestor did idra lose? way the hell more than stalker/collo/mship lost....
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On October 08 2011 10:53 happyness wrote:Show nested quote +On October 08 2011 10:49 -_- wrote:On October 08 2011 10:46 Purdy8 wrote:On October 08 2011 10:45 -_- wrote: Lol, do HD and Pain not understand that Idra was dead. Do you not understand he wasn't ? I don't mean to be rude, but you believe Idra wasn't absolutely dead, you do not understand PvZ. 1) Idra starving. Mined out main, and nat and third nearly out. 2) No gas. 3) Broodlords dead. Impossible to remake (no gas). With broodlords dead, colli, stalker, archon, mothership (will be rebuilt) comp crush roach infestor. 4) Whitera 2 fresh bases (4 and 5). I think you are the one who doesn't understand. 1) White-ra's attack didn't trade cost efficiently enough, and was behind in supply when Idra left 2) White-ra wouldn't have enough gas to get that super ball again 3) Mothership dead, along with few colossus, hard to remake 4) Idra had enough minerals to start fresh bases of his own
I respectfully disagree, but I don't think it's worth either of our time to argue about it further. Enjoy the games :p
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On October 08 2011 10:54 MenSol[ZerO] wrote: clearly someone doesn't care about the community and the fans
white-ra does though
Their professionals, they're there to win.
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people complaining about Idra ... in the long run of the tournament this may be the best thing for him .... get caught up on sleep and come back fresh
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On October 08 2011 10:53 1oo wrote: idra is a disgrace to be called pro gamer :| He fell asleep in his fucking booth before the games. Give the guy a fucking break.
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On October 08 2011 10:53 Eisenheim wrote: Seriously IdrA, "china time".. Jet lag is brutal. If you have never experienced it, it can take several days to get back to normal. SC2 is a game of focus.
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On October 08 2011 10:53 happyness wrote:Show nested quote +On October 08 2011 10:49 -_- wrote:On October 08 2011 10:46 Purdy8 wrote:On October 08 2011 10:45 -_- wrote: Lol, do HD and Pain not understand that Idra was dead. Do you not understand he wasn't ? I don't mean to be rude, but you believe Idra wasn't absolutely dead, you do not understand PvZ. 1) Idra starving. Mined out main, and nat and third nearly out. 2) No gas. 3) Broodlords dead. Impossible to remake (no gas). With broodlords dead, colli, stalker, archon, mothership (will be rebuilt) comp crush roach infestor. 4) Whitera 2 fresh bases (4 and 5). I think you are the one who doesn't understand. 1) White-ra's attack didn't trade cost efficiently enough, and was behind in supply when Idra left 2) White-ra wouldn't have enough gas to get that super ball again 3) Mothership dead, along with few colossus, hard to remake 4) Idra had enough minerals to start fresh bases of his own
qouting so people can see people this dumb need to get banned
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Anyone have brackets/timings for tomorrow? Thanks.
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No real shame it forfeiting meaningless games.
The same way I'm not that mad about the randomized Group C seedings.
It all doesn't really matter. These are essentially exhibition matches. The real tournament starts Saturday.
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On October 08 2011 10:53 Serpico wrote:Of all the things you could complain about, how someone refers to a timezone? lol. All the playes can be jetlagged, except idra. Because a gracken never sleeps, never stops.
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