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699 Posts
Thursday, Oct 06 1:00am GMT (GMT+00:00)
EU: Thursday, Oct 06 5:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00)
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??? This isn't division 1.
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eh? Shouldn't it be division 1 being cast? Lowely vs Vibe, Demulism vs Hero, Fenix vs Cruncher?
Dont' take Demuslim vs Hero from me!
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On October 06 2011 04:51 Savern101 wrote:
eh? Shouldn't it be division 1 being cast? Lowely vs Vibe, Demulism vs Hero, Fenix vs Cruncher?
Dont' take Demuslim vs Hero from me!
Yup... I thought in my mind: "Wednesday... Day 3 of the week..."
Wednesdays are my Mondays mentally... working on the fix. xD
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On October 06 2011 04:54 NASL.tv wrote:Show nested quote +On October 06 2011 04:51 Savern101 wrote:
eh? Shouldn't it be division 1 being cast? Lowely vs Vibe, Demulism vs Hero, Fenix vs Cruncher?
Dont' take Demuslim vs Hero from me! Yup... I thought in my mind: "Wednesday... Day 3 of the week..." Wednesdays are my Mondays mentally... working on the fix. xD
I forgive you, this time 
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Demu vs Hero is gonna be so good
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It'll be interesting to see HoN with some production values but then I realised it's at 360p and HoN looks utter shit at anything under 720.
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is cruncher still playing? i'm aware these games were played a while ago, but will he still play in future weeks?
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On October 06 2011 05:04 Malstriks wrote:
is cruncher still playing? i'm aware these games were played a while ago, but will he still play in future weeks?
He will play till January. Then his contract is over.
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Should be good to go now... sorry about that guys.
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DeMu vs Hero should be an awesome match cant wait for that recon DeMu should come out on top though 
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LoWeLy isnt swedish , he is belarusian.
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On October 06 2011 05:08 HQuality wrote:
go bisu hero
+1, Lets go hero ^^
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Demuslim vs Hero has potential to be the best match of the tourney.
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Yay HoN :D EZ fighting, will watch :>
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lowely 2-1 vibe
hero 1-2 demuslim
lag 0-2 cruncher
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Is Cruncher actually going to play given he basically quit SC2 recently? What about the rest of the season, as it was made clear that he will be focusing on school instead of practicing.
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United Kingdom14464 Posts
Come on Demuslim! If he wins this, he's got a a great chance to just roll the rest of the group.
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On October 06 2011 06:07 nath wrote:
lowely 2-1 vibe
hero 1-2 demuslim
lag 0-2 cruncher
Yeah, I'm feeling this. ^^
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even thought I love Demuslin, I have to cheer for my favorite protoss, herO <3. Go on hero, show everyone that you can own at pvt too!
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On October 06 2011 06:57 AlternativeEgo wrote:Show nested quote +On October 06 2011 06:07 nath wrote:
lowely 2-1 vibe
hero 1-2 demuslim
lag 0-2 cruncher Yeah, I'm feeling this. ^^
The only thing I'm feeling with this is 2-1 vibe. Apart from that, dead on!
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On October 06 2011 07:41 Kznn wrote:
even thought I love Demuslin, I have to cheer for my favorite protoss, herO <3. Go on hero, show everyone that you can own at pvt too!
Hmmm I think all his match ups are pretty solid can't exactly say he can't PvT when he recently crushed MKP at WCG. He only really loses to his own greedy play lol
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Weeee, Sheth casting! Let's go HerO... crush face for Aiur!
Edit: DANGIT. NO HERO GAME.
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Hero vs demuslim will not be played... story of me staying up to watch quality protoss matches at NA broadcast times......
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Wait, why no Hero vs Demuslim?
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thegunrun... thank you for representing my state of New Jersey, but please don't talk about fistpumping x.x The people from the Jersey Shore aren't even from New Jersey, and they don't properly represent us 
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On October 06 2011 06:57 AlternativeEgo wrote:Show nested quote +On October 06 2011 06:07 nath wrote:
lowely 2-1 vibe
hero 1-2 demuslim
lag 0-2 cruncher Yeah, I'm feeling this. ^^
Hm I disagree, I think Fenix will 2-0 CrunCher (if CrunCher is playing?), lag or no lag. ^^
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Great split from Vibe to stop that baneling attack from doing much damage.
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I just want this series to be over quickly, HerO vs Demuslim should be AWESOME.
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United States15275 Posts
The commentary is so quiet. o_O
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Vibe way ahead... Lowely just can't seem to deal any damage lol
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On October 06 2011 09:55 MCMXVI wrote:
Hero vs demuslim will not be played... story of me staying up to watch quality protoss matches at NA broadcast times......
why are they not gonna play? does anyone know something. Im not watching yet
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On October 06 2011 10:08 CosmicSpiral wrote:
The commentary is so quiet. o_O
Agreed. thegunrun is especially quiet. Not a huge fan of him as a caster. Doesn't really have a voice for it, unless NASL is being commentated in the library.
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I don't understand NASL's thought process on anything, ever. "Be sure to keep the stream open after the games so you can listen to people talk about HoN but not actually see anything!" Where do you people get these ideas? What makes you think they're good?
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Hmm. I haven't been following NASL, so I apologise if this was already covered, but why is NASL using the censored version of SC2?
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699 Posts
Poll: lowely vs vibe G1Not worth it.... (6) 60% If you have time (4) 40% I like it! (0) 0% 10 total votes Your vote: lowely vs vibe G1 (Vote): I like it!
(Vote): If you have time
(Vote): Not worth it....
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Vibe was a level above Lowely the entire game o.O
1-0 Vibe. Great game from Vibe.
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ooh excited for ez vs complexity later.
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On October 06 2011 10:10 CutthroatCollapse wrote:Show nested quote +On October 06 2011 09:55 MCMXVI wrote:
Hero vs demuslim will not be played... story of me staying up to watch quality protoss matches at NA broadcast times...... why are they not gonna play? does anyone know something. Im not watching yet
Demuslim could not show up afaik... he got the loss, hero got the win.
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feels like a very low level ZvZ?
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Poll: lowely vs vibe G2Not worth it.... (5) 71% If you have time (2) 29% I like it! (0) 0% 7 total votes Your vote: lowely vs vibe G2 (Vote): I like it!
(Vote): If you have time
(Vote): Not worth it....
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On October 06 2011 10:28 MCMXVI wrote:Show nested quote +On October 06 2011 10:10 CutthroatCollapse wrote:On October 06 2011 09:55 MCMXVI wrote:
Hero vs demuslim will not be played... story of me staying up to watch quality protoss matches at NA broadcast times...... why are they not gonna play? does anyone know something. Im not watching yet Demuslim could not show up afaik... he got the loss, hero got the win.
What? O.o I can't believe the winner of Div 1 is gonna be decided over a walkover...
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That was pretty good play by Vibe. Nice game.
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On October 06 2011 10:31 Lamphead wrote:
feels like a very low level ZvZ?
Definitely low-level play from Lowely. Game two was low-level from Vibe I think too (mutas? meh). Game one I thought Vibe played well.
2-0 Vibe easy.
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i think we're all looking forward to demuslim hero match :D
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On October 06 2011 10:32 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:Definitely low-level play from Lowely. Game two was low-level from Vibe I think too (mutas? meh). Game one I thought Vibe played well. 2-0 Vibe easy.
What's wrong with mutas? They are used all the time in ZvZ now. I'd say 50% of my zvz games in master league see muta use now.
@Savern101: I didn't think about that, but there is actually a fairly high chance that you're right.
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On October 06 2011 10:31 Savern101 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 06 2011 10:28 MCMXVI wrote:On October 06 2011 10:10 CutthroatCollapse wrote:On October 06 2011 09:55 MCMXVI wrote:
Hero vs demuslim will not be played... story of me staying up to watch quality protoss matches at NA broadcast times...... why are they not gonna play? does anyone know something. Im not watching yet Demuslim could not show up afaik... he got the loss, hero got the win. What? O.o I can't believe the winner of Div 1 is gonna be decided over a walkover...
That's definitely a pity... but I'll only be mad/ disappointed at the person who didn't/ couldn't play; I'll never blame the winner for taking the win.
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On October 06 2011 10:32 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:Definitely low-level play from Lowely. Game two was low-level from Vibe I think too (mutas? meh). Game one I thought Vibe played well. 2-0 Vibe easy.
There's nothing wrong with going mutas, he just rushed for them too fast, so he didn't have the economy to (1) get a significant number of mutas, and (2) prepare lots of spines for the inevitable counterattack, and that prior aggression.
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Does Vibe kind of have a Jerry Seinfeld look to him?
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Vibe's a cool guy
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NO!
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omg, the only reason i watched today was for hero vs demuslim -_-
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Very well played by vibe! Vibe is so gosu at zvz, and I really hope to see more games of him.
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Russian Federation89 Posts
Well this is unfortunate
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United Kingdom16710 Posts
LOL NASL and walkovers.........
sigh
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Welp.. there goes that liquibet, was excited for Demu vs Hero too
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No Hero vs Demuslim=Uber fail
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a no show... dang it I wanted to see Hero vs demuslim...
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On October 06 2011 10:35 Kvz wrote:
vibe what a cutie
Yeah he's actually pretty sexy. lol "my NASL games weren't horrible on purpose"
Also, what was wrong with the mutas? Maybe he got them before his economy allowed, but the map control, harass, and ability to handle the roaches really helped.
Meh, sucks that the best game in the division (imo) won't be played, but if Cruncher is playing to his potential this could be a really good game.
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What was said, i had the volume turned down?
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On October 06 2011 10:34 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:Show nested quote +On October 06 2011 10:31 Savern101 wrote:On October 06 2011 10:28 MCMXVI wrote:On October 06 2011 10:10 CutthroatCollapse wrote:On October 06 2011 09:55 MCMXVI wrote:
Hero vs demuslim will not be played... story of me staying up to watch quality protoss matches at NA broadcast times...... why are they not gonna play? does anyone know something. Im not watching yet Demuslim could not show up afaik... he got the loss, hero got the win. What? O.o I can't believe the winner of Div 1 is gonna be decided over a walkover... That's definitely a pity... but I'll only be mad/ disappointed at the person who didn't/ couldn't play; I'll never blame the winner for taking the win.
Yeah, don't know what the circumstances are Demuslim will take 2nd place I guess.
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Too scared of HerO?
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Hero walkover over Demuslim because Demuslim didn't show up.
2-0 Hero automatically.
Sigh. Was looking forward to that series. Would like to hear from Demuslim why he couldn't play
Congratulations to Hero!
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On October 06 2011 10:33 JiYan wrote:
i think we're all looking forward to demuslim hero match :D
I'm sad.
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I thought Gretorp was about to tell us that NASL's dog died, " We have terrible news... " 0.0
Sucks though, Demusilm vs Hero would have been an amazing match.
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I just tuned in to see the end of Gretorp giving some excuse for one of the players. What happened?
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incontrol needs to bust some heads at the EG house.
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NASL is horrendous... Pre-recorded matches and they can't even notify the community that they aren't playing today? Thanks for the heads up, the only reason I tuned in and it all goes to shit. Great notification!
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yah for commercials... did he give a reason? That was the match I wanted to watch... not so interested in the rest... god damnit
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No DeMuslim!!!
Gretorp called Cruncher ---- Cunter
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Demu vs Hero was easily going to be the standout series for this division that's a massive let down!
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Why do I have a vague memory of hearing that Demuslim was unlikely to show up for this match when I made my liquibet (voted for Hero)??
Am I mixing up a different story (Cruncher quitting perhaps?)?
Oh well, voted Hero. Pretty sweet.
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ya wut happened at the eg house that caused demuslim to not sho
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On October 06 2011 10:38 Telcontar wrote:
LOL NASL and walkovers.........
sigh
How can nasl be blamed for a player not showing up? It is the players responsibility to show up.... It is unfortunate that we didn't get to see it, but if you are going to be mad, be mad at the person who did not show up not the admins ect.
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ugh, no HerO vs Demuslim -_- that was the match i was most looking forward to. and i bet on demuslim in my liquibet T_T
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DeMuslim is on a roll and has a lot of hype atm, mayb hes dodging Hero...
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On October 06 2011 10:40 lowreezy08 wrote:
NASL is horrendous... Pre-recorded matches and they can't even notify the community that they aren't playing today? Thanks for the heads up, the only reason I tuned in and it all goes to shit. Great notification!
o.O They did notify us. Just now on the stream.
Stop acting like a jerk.
How about you go yell at Demuslim for not playing the match.
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What. The. Hell. The most important match of the group, and DeMuslim misses it. This sucks for him. That could cost him the group.
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Wow, I waited for all this time for hero vs demuslim. Why could NASL notify us ahead of time. Aren't these matches played in weeks advance?
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On October 06 2011 10:42 Yamulo wrote:Show nested quote +On October 06 2011 10:38 Telcontar wrote:
LOL NASL and walkovers.........
sigh How can nasl be blamed for a player not showing up? It is the players responsibility to show up.... It is unfortunate that we didn't get to see it, but if you are going to be mad, be mad at the person who did not show up not the admins ect.
they can be blamed for not notifying the community that this match wasn't actually going to occur... instead of just leaving it on the main website so they didn't lose viewers... great move.
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On October 06 2011 10:42 xajukx wrote:
DeMuslim is on a roll and has a lot of hype atm, mayb hes dodging Hero...
I highly doubt Deumuslin would dodge a match that could have a big impact on his chances at a lot of money because he is afraid of losing and having the hype die down....
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On October 06 2011 10:42 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:Show nested quote +On October 06 2011 10:40 lowreezy08 wrote:
NASL is horrendous... Pre-recorded matches and they can't even notify the community that they aren't playing today? Thanks for the heads up, the only reason I tuned in and it all goes to shit. Great notification! o.O They did notify us. Just now on the stream. Stop acting like a jerk. How about you go yell at Demuslim for not playing the match.
These matches are played 1-2 weeks ago or even more. NASL could have posted the walkover information in the OP before they started broadcasting. Some of us waited to see the match, which just wasted our time.
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I think Demu was on holiday (2 weeks ago) when this match happened. Thats probably the reason he didnt show up. But still.... no me gusta.
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On October 06 2011 10:39 Rinrun wrote:Show nested quote +On October 06 2011 10:33 JiYan wrote:
i think we're all looking forward to demuslim hero match :D I'm sad.
Yeah, it was easily going to be the mu of the week. I mean it was the two players rated #1 in the league with a flat out 6-0 in games. Either way, I still think demu will make the finals and the same with hero.
Also, is nasl doing the playoff format again this season, and if so how does it work (does the smaller group make a difference?).
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On October 06 2011 10:38 lim1017 wrote:
omg, the only reason i watched today was for hero vs demuslim -_-
That's probably the main reason why they don't announce walkovers in advance. They know that some people might not tune in, if the match they were interested in didn't happen. The event isn't live, the only reason to hold back the announcement of walkovers, is to not lose viewers.
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disappointed no HerO games
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On October 06 2011 10:45 ptbl wrote:Show nested quote +On October 06 2011 10:42 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On October 06 2011 10:40 lowreezy08 wrote:
NASL is horrendous... Pre-recorded matches and they can't even notify the community that they aren't playing today? Thanks for the heads up, the only reason I tuned in and it all goes to shit. Great notification! o.O They did notify us. Just now on the stream. Stop acting like a jerk. How about you go yell at Demuslim for not playing the match. These matches are played 1-2 weeks ago or even more. NASL could have posted the walkover information in the OP before they started broadcasting. Some of us waited to see the match, which just wasted our time.
Yeah, even if they didn't do that they could just edit in something at the start of the show explaining it.
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On October 06 2011 10:45 ptbl wrote:Show nested quote +On October 06 2011 10:42 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On October 06 2011 10:40 lowreezy08 wrote:
NASL is horrendous... Pre-recorded matches and they can't even notify the community that they aren't playing today? Thanks for the heads up, the only reason I tuned in and it all goes to shit. Great notification! o.O They did notify us. Just now on the stream. Stop acting like a jerk. How about you go yell at Demuslim for not playing the match. These matches are played 1-2 weeks ago or even more. NASL could have posted the walkover information in the OP before they started broadcasting. Some of us waited to see the match, which just wasted our time.
Im pretty sure NASL matches are played like 1 day in advance. unless there are events conflicting etc
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On October 06 2011 10:45 RooStaR wrote:Show nested quote +On October 06 2011 10:38 lim1017 wrote:
omg, the only reason i watched today was for hero vs demuslim -_- That's probably the main reason why they don't announce walkovers in advance. They know that some people might not tune in, if the match they were interested in didn't happen. The event isn't live, the only reason to hold back the announcement of walkovers, is to not lose viewers.
As shady as it sounds, I'm afraid to be inclined to believe it's true. Makes sense.
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On October 06 2011 10:45 caradoc wrote:disappointed no HerO games
Yeah Would like to know why Demuslim didn't play him >.<
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such an asshat move to make us believe the match will happen when demuslim didn't even show up when the match occurred weeks ago...
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On October 06 2011 10:45 RooStaR wrote:Show nested quote +On October 06 2011 10:38 lim1017 wrote:
omg, the only reason i watched today was for hero vs demuslim -_- That's probably the main reason why they don't announce walkovers in advance. They know that some people might not tune in, if the match they were interested in didn't happen. The event isn't live, the only reason to hold back the announcement of walkovers, is to not lose viewers.
Way to screw over your viewers NASL. Thanks a lot for wasting my time today. I'm off.
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On October 06 2011 10:46 lim1017 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 06 2011 10:45 ptbl wrote:On October 06 2011 10:42 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On October 06 2011 10:40 lowreezy08 wrote:
NASL is horrendous... Pre-recorded matches and they can't even notify the community that they aren't playing today? Thanks for the heads up, the only reason I tuned in and it all goes to shit. Great notification! o.O They did notify us. Just now on the stream. Stop acting like a jerk. How about you go yell at Demuslim for not playing the match. These matches are played 1-2 weeks ago or even more. NASL could have posted the walkover information in the OP before they started broadcasting. Some of us waited to see the match, which just wasted our time. Im pretty sure NASL matches are played like 1 day in advance. unless there are events conflicting etc
In Season 1 the matches were played 1-2 days in advance. In Season 2 the matches have been played between 1-3 weeks in advance.
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I was hoping for
[NASL] S2 W4D1
North American Star League
Week 4 Division 1
Matchups:
HwangSin vs MorroW
Jinro vs KiWiKaKi
Socke vs IdrA
like i expected.
guess not.
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On October 06 2011 10:42 xajukx wrote:
DeMuslim is on a roll and has a lot of hype atm, mayb hes dodging Hero...
why do people post such stupid shit wtf. yes i know he did say maybe but there NO chance thats what happen or should u think that is what happen.
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On October 06 2011 10:47 Trizz wrote:
I was hoping for
[NASL] S2 W4D1
North American Star League
Week 4 Division 1
Matchups:
HwangSin vs MorroW
Jinro vs KiWiKaKi
Socke vs IdrA
like i expected.
guess not.
Yeah TL calendar is wrong. Had to go by the website / Thread. I was tricked at first too but those games will be shown soon so no worries
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United States4991 Posts
Whoa, this game is pre-patch? Warp Prism with only 40 shields..
And yeah, it's pretty bullshit they don't tell us. I guess they're thinking "WELL WE WANT THEM TO TUNE IN", but pissing off your viewers doesn't seem a good idea, even if it temporarily increases your view count.
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oh fuck that was a sexy move there with the workers blocking the zlots in the line
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That could of gone so much better for cruncher. He almost trapped a bunch of marines in with those FF and those zealots from the warp prism did absolutely nothing due to repair and Cruncher not paying attention to them.
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Gretorp's famous math... removing 1/6 of a Protoss's gas is removing 1/6 of a Protoss's colossi -.-'
We seriously have to keep a list of these...
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On October 06 2011 10:46 lim1017 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 06 2011 10:45 ptbl wrote:On October 06 2011 10:42 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On October 06 2011 10:40 lowreezy08 wrote:
NASL is horrendous... Pre-recorded matches and they can't even notify the community that they aren't playing today? Thanks for the heads up, the only reason I tuned in and it all goes to shit. Great notification! o.O They did notify us. Just now on the stream. Stop acting like a jerk. How about you go yell at Demuslim for not playing the match. These matches are played 1-2 weeks ago or even more. NASL could have posted the walkover information in the OP before they started broadcasting. Some of us waited to see the match, which just wasted our time. Im pretty sure NASL matches are played like 1 day in advance. unless there are events conflicting etc
Im pretty sure that you're wrong. And Im pretty sure it would have been a good move to make an announcement beforehand, so that european geeks like myself dont have to stay up for nothing
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On October 06 2011 10:49 Insane wrote:
Whoa, this game is pre-patch? Warp Prism with only 40 shields..
And yeah, it's pretty bullshit they don't tell us. I guess they're thinking "WELL WE WANT THEM TO TUNE IN", but pissing off your viewers doesn't seem a good idea, even if it temporarily increases your view count.
Yeah, it's pretty annoying.
I actually think all the games have already been played by now. Or at least most of them. Considering Cruncher has retired, and I doubt he'd retire if he'd made the NASL season 2 finals, some of the tension is already gone.
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On October 06 2011 10:53 -_- wrote:Show nested quote +On October 06 2011 10:49 Insane wrote:
Whoa, this game is pre-patch? Warp Prism with only 40 shields..
And yeah, it's pretty bullshit they don't tell us. I guess they're thinking "WELL WE WANT THEM TO TUNE IN", but pissing off your viewers doesn't seem a good idea, even if it temporarily increases your view count. Yeah, it's pretty annoying. I actually think all the games have already been played by now. Or at least most of them. Considering Cruncher has retired, and I doubt he'd retire if he'd made the NASL season 2 finals, some of the tension is already gone.
Did Cruncher already retire? I thought it said he was going to retire when his contract is up in January?
Also why is Gretorp solo casting? (I was away during the very start of the game so I missed hearing it)
Holy fuck, why?! It's not like it looks even remotely like they need a month worth of production work on it. I'm not going to say it takes no effort / time, but a month of time it does not take...
vvvvvvvvvvvvv
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According to Axslav NASL matches are played almost a month in advances. Hence the Warp Prism shield being pre-patch and the DeMusliM was probably when he went to Oregon on vacation and maybe wasn't able to reschedule.
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Now those are some dark brolar.
I really don't understand all the hate on Cruncher. He's a pretty good player. Nice composition and upgrades.
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Poll: Cruncher vs Fenix G1I like it! (9) 90% If you have time (1) 10% Not worth it.... (0) 0% 10 total votes Your vote: Cruncher vs Fenix G1 (Vote): I like it!
(Vote): If you have time
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Cruncher played that game like a boss.
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Cruncher playing well!
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On October 06 2011 10:56 Darclite wrote:
Now those are some dark brolar.
I really don't understand all the hate on Cruncher. He's a pretty good player. Nice composition and upgrades.
cruncher has always had super sick pvt. I still remember how in the TL open he won, he beat stephano with some cheesy strats and everyone hated on him a ton and then they loved him after seeing his pvt games against fenix.
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so many tongue slips from gretorp ~_~
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On October 06 2011 10:55 Insane wrote:Show nested quote +On October 06 2011 10:53 -_- wrote:On October 06 2011 10:49 Insane wrote:
Whoa, this game is pre-patch? Warp Prism with only 40 shields..
And yeah, it's pretty bullshit they don't tell us. I guess they're thinking "WELL WE WANT THEM TO TUNE IN", but pissing off your viewers doesn't seem a good idea, even if it temporarily increases your view count. Yeah, it's pretty annoying. I actually think all the games have already been played by now. Or at least most of them. Considering Cruncher has retired, and I doubt he'd retire if he'd made the NASL season 2 finals, some of the tension is already gone. Did Cruncher already retire? I thought it said he was going to retire when his contract is up in January? Also why is Gretorp solo casting? (I was away during the very start of the game so I missed hearing it) Holy fuck, why?! It's not like it looks even remotely like they need a month worth of production work on it. I'm not going to say it takes no effort / time, but a month of time it does not take... vvvvvvvvvvvvv
Complexity stated that he's going inactive now, but he'll be under contract until january 2012 when the said K expires. Yeah, it's pretty insane that they do it a month in advance. I can't watch prepatch games. Just seems like waste of time.
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Poll: Cruncher vs Fenix G2Not worth it.... (10) 91% I like it! (1) 9% If you have time (0) 0% 11 total votes Your vote: Cruncher vs Fenix G2 (Vote): I like it!
(Vote): If you have time
(Vote): Not worth it....
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Well that game was lame lol.
gg.
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SCV football reference was the best part of that game.
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silly fenix this isnt tvz
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I really hope Cruncher wins now.
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2rax marine all in is more powerful and easier to execute against protoss than tech/terror rush against China was in CnC Generals, which was nearly always an insta-win. u so gosu, Fenix.
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Was that nexus first from cruncher?
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Typical terran. Lose macro game, herpa derp pull scvs all in next game. I see that korean training has really helped Fenix.
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I hope all NASL games was not pre-record..
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I can not believe that i am going to miss the HoN showmatch, i have a practice exam to go to! f@#$, i better be back in time
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On October 06 2011 11:06 Eisenheim wrote:
I hope all NASL games was not pre-record..
What do you mean? It's a known fact that they are not playing at the same time the cast goes. They make a big hullabaloo about the fact that they do the cast at the time the games are actually played, but they're playing (apparently a month?!?!) in advance of the cast being shown.
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I have two seconds of delay, I can´t play this tournament, I'm sorry I withdraw from the tournament for connection problems.
thx all and sorry!
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Tongue slips, "excuse mes", trash talking and repeatedly saying "entire", "little bit", "coming up" and "position".
Gretorp, I thing you're a great guy, but casting is not for you... Go back to pro play
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On October 06 2011 11:07 Insane wrote:Show nested quote +On October 06 2011 11:06 Eisenheim wrote:
I hope all NASL games was not pre-record.. What do you mean? It's a known fact that they are not playing at the same time the cast goes. They make a big hullabaloo about the fact that they do the cast at the time the games are actually played, but they're playing (apparently a month?!?!) in advance of the cast being shown.
I know they don't cast at the same time, i just hope ALL last game (Week 8 ?) was pre-patch.
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On October 06 2011 11:09 kiy0 wrote:Tongue slips, "excuse mes", trash talking and repeatedly saying "entire", "little bit", "coming up" and "position". Gretorp, I thing you're a great guy, but casting is not for you... Go back to pro play
I prefer when Gretorp casts with another commentator... especially someone who's very lively.
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On October 06 2011 11:09 Fenix wrote:
I have two seconds of delay, I can´t play this tournament, I'm sorry I withdraw from the tournament for connection problems.
thx all and sorry!
Damn, well, GL in Korea 
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On October 06 2011 11:10 Eisenheim wrote:Show nested quote +On October 06 2011 11:09 Fenix wrote:
I have two seconds of delay, I can´t play this tournament, I'm sorry I withdraw from the tournament for connection problems.
thx all and sorry! Damn, well, GL in Korea
So does that mean he lost g3?!
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On October 06 2011 11:09 Fenix wrote:
I have two seconds of delay, I can´t play this tournament, I'm sorry I withdraw from the tournament for connection problems.
thx all and sorry!
I'm guessing this is indicative that Cruncher wins 2-1 :/.
Sucks about the lag problems though.
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On October 06 2011 11:09 Fenix wrote:
I have two seconds of delay, I can´t play this tournament, I'm sorry I withdraw from the tournament for connection problems.
thx all and sorry!
Sorry to hear that Still a fan
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Awww shit. Hate to see this happen, but NASL is imploding tonight.
But keep on truckin', NASL.
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rofl, stomped that push so easily.
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How can Fenix's delay be that much worse than the Koreans who topped their groups last season?
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On October 06 2011 11:17 Dexington wrote:
How can Fenix's delay be that much worse than the Koreans who topped their groups last season?
Maybe Koreans > Fenix?
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On October 06 2011 11:17 Dexington wrote:
How can Fenix's delay be that much worse than the Koreans who topped their groups last season?
From what I've heard, different places in Korea do better with delay. Some of them may be better / more experienced at fighting the latency, and some of the team houses have less delay. I think oGs is supposed to be relatively good for delay?
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Multipronged attacks/harass from Protoss so nice to see...and that's with prepatch warp prism.
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On October 06 2011 11:21 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Nail-biting game!
Bet you $100 Fenix loses
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On October 06 2011 11:20 Insane wrote:Show nested quote +On October 06 2011 11:17 Dexington wrote:
How can Fenix's delay be that much worse than the Koreans who topped their groups last season? From what I've heard, different places in Korea do better with delay. Some of them may be better / more experienced at fighting the latency, and some of the team houses have less delay. I think oGs is supposed to be relatively good for delay?
I thought most of the houses had VPNs and such setup to make the lag less pronounced. I wonder if IM doesn't since their members don't seem to play many foreign online tourneys.
On the topic of the game though dear lord Fenix needs ravens. Every time he moves out at all 1 DT just comes in, kills a shit-ton of marines and then he's forced to pull back.
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If Fenix leaves NASL and Cruncher is going inactive, this division is going to be really weird.
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lol Fenix finally getting a raven.
Ya think?
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fenix may not have heard of the raven judging by this game.
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Poll: Cruncher vs Fenix G3I like it! (15) 79% Not worth it.... (3) 16% If you have time (1) 5% 19 total votes Your vote: Cruncher vs Fenix G3 (Vote): I like it!
(Vote): If you have time
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That was less of Cruncher being amazing and fenix not making just one raven...
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Glad that Cruncher crushed that cheesy T.
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On October 06 2011 11:27 FinestHour wrote:
That was less of Cruncher being amazing and fenix not making just one raven...
Cruncher had some good harrass, with was pretty essential to keeping them close.
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On October 06 2011 10:40 lowreezy08 wrote:
NASL is horrendous... Pre-recorded matches and they can't even notify the community that they aren't playing today? Thanks for the heads up, the only reason I tuned in and it all goes to shit. Great notification!
This. I only watch NASL when the Koreans and maybe players like Idra play. I rushed home right after work today so I can catch this "live", and it ended up as a no show.
Why can't NASL tell us this ahead of time? even just one day ahead would of been fine, I mean they recorded these matches like weeks ago seeing this is pre-patched...
Really disappointed in their ethicality and the way they handle things.
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Cruncher played well but I was expecting more out of Fenix. Given what he said earlier in the thread, that might help explain some of it. Not the best matches to watch as far as I was concerned.
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Fenix is getting goood, but cruncher really abused his race.
=(((
Go Fenix!!
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Terrible Demuslim was a no show, only match worth watching tonight. Why doesn't nasl tell us that it's not going to happen?
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Fuckin' A
I not only thought Fenix would take it, but he'd stick Cruncher's head down a toilet and flush it too. This is an unexpected turn of events.
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Did fenix basically do 4 all-ins in a row in 1 game?!
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I was really looking forward for DemusliM vs HerO :/...
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On October 06 2011 11:33 mTw|NarutO wrote:
I was really looking forward for DemusliM vs HerO :/...
Honestly, who wasn't? I come home quickly for Demuslim vs HerO and end up with some less than stellar Cruncher v Fenix games instead.
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On October 06 2011 11:31 Reptilia wrote:
Fenix is getting goood, but cruncher really abused his race.
=(((
Go Fenix!!
The weaker race can be abused against the better designed and stronger one? This logic does not compute properly.
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Woot, it's HoN time. Not sure who to go for.
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I saw a "click to expand" on a ad, and as a zerg i had to click it
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anyone hanging around to talk about these games, pretty excited for ez
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never watched hon before, this should at least be interesting
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Ive watched Honcast a couple times before. This should be nice to watch.
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boring
i was only here to watch demu and hero
I was hoping you guys would atleast give us a heads up (like before the first match or even the moment you started the topic) since this was played 2 weeks before? Instead of having people wait for something that's never gonna happen.
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Lowely, Hero , Fenix
GOGOGO
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On October 06 2011 11:54 FinestHour wrote:
wait wat, stream offline
Hon matches played tmmrw
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Kinda silly to say it's played tomorrow, had me into it today not tomorrow =B, I'll be busy tomorrow =/ Well if it's on i'll see it.
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On October 06 2011 11:32 Oreo7 wrote:
Terrible Demuslim was a no show, only match worth watching tonight. Why doesn't nasl tell us that it's not going to happen?
Because they have a vested interest in you tuning into their show.
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On October 06 2011 12:01 SnuggleZhenya wrote:Show nested quote +On October 06 2011 11:32 Oreo7 wrote:
Terrible Demuslim was a no show, only match worth watching tonight. Why doesn't nasl tell us that it's not going to happen? Because they have a vested interest in you tuning into their show.
They do it all the time. =(
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On October 06 2011 11:30 Fubi wrote:Show nested quote +On October 06 2011 10:40 lowreezy08 wrote:
NASL is horrendous... Pre-recorded matches and they can't even notify the community that they aren't playing today? Thanks for the heads up, the only reason I tuned in and it all goes to shit. Great notification! This. I only watch NASL when the Koreans and maybe players like Idra play. I rushed home right after work today so I can catch this "live", and it ended up as a no show. Why can't NASL tell us this ahead of time? even just one day ahead would of been fine, I mean they recorded these matches like weeks ago seeing this is pre-patched... Really disappointed in their ethicality and the way they handle things.
You actually explained it yourself. If they announce in advance that certain anticipated matches didn't happen, some people will not bother tuning in for that night and they lose viewers.
People have been complaining about this for months since S1, but NASL has been pretty adamant about it.
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Won't make viewers happy in the long run either.
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On October 06 2011 12:01 SnuggleZhenya wrote:Show nested quote +On October 06 2011 11:32 Oreo7 wrote:
Terrible Demuslim was a no show, only match worth watching tonight. Why doesn't nasl tell us that it's not going to happen? Because they have a vested interest in you tuning into their show.
Ya, but it gives viewers like me all the more reason to have no interest in supporting them, at least not for the weeks before the finals where no shows were repeatedly not mentioned to the viewers ahead of time. They clearly didn't care about our time last season, only that we were tuning in to watch, and it seems that is still the case.
I honestly don't mind just checking the results and watching the finals with all the other good content even though I watched on a regular basis last season.
Edit: Hopefully I am not coming across as overly-dramatic. I am not saying it is a huge deal or that they are terrible people, but they clearly saw that it was angering people last season and continue to do it, so I personally do not want to support that. I'm not looking to flame the NASL or anything like that.
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On October 06 2011 14:26 Chicane wrote:Show nested quote +On October 06 2011 12:01 SnuggleZhenya wrote:On October 06 2011 11:32 Oreo7 wrote:
Terrible Demuslim was a no show, only match worth watching tonight. Why doesn't nasl tell us that it's not going to happen? Because they have a vested interest in you tuning into their show. Ya, but it gives viewers like me all the more reason to have no interest in supporting them, at least not for the weeks before the finals where no shows were repeatedly not mentioned to the viewers ahead of time. They clearly didn't care about our time last season, only that we were tuning in to watch, and it seems that is still the case. I honestly don't mind just checking the results and watching the finals with all the other good content even though I watched on a regular basis last season. Edit: Hopefully I am not coming across as overly-dramatic. I am not saying it is a huge deal or that they are terrible people, but they clearly saw that it was angering people last season and continue to do it, so I personally do not want to support that. I'm not looking to flame the NASL or anything like that.
I agree with you completely. It's disrespectful to the viewership to lie through omission about their matches. They know the matches aren't happening ahead of time yet purposefully don't inform the viewers. It's moves like this that causes me to pass over watching NASL in lieu of other plentiful SC entertainment I can be watching instead. I don't care if a match isn't going to be played but it's fairly irritating to expect a match then have it be a walk-over with no notice. I've been not tuning in and probably won't until the finals because I'd rather just not deal with feeling irritated. It's a shame since NASL seemed to have improved their production so much since season one...it's going to waste on me.
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so did hero have to wait 4 hours at 4 am until demuslim no showed?
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On October 06 2011 14:19 Sein wrote:Show nested quote +On October 06 2011 11:30 Fubi wrote:On October 06 2011 10:40 lowreezy08 wrote:
NASL is horrendous... Pre-recorded matches and they can't even notify the community that they aren't playing today? Thanks for the heads up, the only reason I tuned in and it all goes to shit. Great notification! This. I only watch NASL when the Koreans and maybe players like Idra play. I rushed home right after work today so I can catch this "live", and it ended up as a no show. Why can't NASL tell us this ahead of time? even just one day ahead would of been fine, I mean they recorded these matches like weeks ago seeing this is pre-patched... Really disappointed in their ethicality and the way they handle things. You actually explained it yourself. If they announce in advance that certain anticipated matches didn't happen, some people will not bother tuning in for that night and they lose viewers. People have been complaining about this for months since S1, but NASL has been pretty adamant about it.
Hence why I implied it was a pretty unethical business practice, and just gives them outright bad rep.
It's like advertising for a free concert by Aerosmith and a few other random less popular pop stars (with special premium front row seat for money), and then JUST before the concert start, they announce that Aerosmith can't make it when they knew weeks ahead of time. Basically, increasing their own revenue (from sponsor advertisements and other sources) at the expense of the customers is unethical, and will definitely leave them a bad rep. Good business always puts customers first, and NASL isn't really doing a good job at it.
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Wtf cruncher retiring from SC2 and beating fenix who trains with probably the best team in the world ?
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On October 06 2011 15:21 Fubi wrote:Show nested quote +On October 06 2011 14:19 Sein wrote:On October 06 2011 11:30 Fubi wrote:On October 06 2011 10:40 lowreezy08 wrote:
NASL is horrendous... Pre-recorded matches and they can't even notify the community that they aren't playing today? Thanks for the heads up, the only reason I tuned in and it all goes to shit. Great notification! This. I only watch NASL when the Koreans and maybe players like Idra play. I rushed home right after work today so I can catch this "live", and it ended up as a no show. Why can't NASL tell us this ahead of time? even just one day ahead would of been fine, I mean they recorded these matches like weeks ago seeing this is pre-patched... Really disappointed in their ethicality and the way they handle things. You actually explained it yourself. If they announce in advance that certain anticipated matches didn't happen, some people will not bother tuning in for that night and they lose viewers. People have been complaining about this for months since S1, but NASL has been pretty adamant about it. Hence why I implied it was a pretty unethical business practice, and just gives them outright bad rep. It's like advertising for a free concert by Aerosmith and a few other random less popular pop stars (with special premium front row seat for money), and then JUST before the concert start, they announce that Aerosmith can't make it when they knew weeks ahead of time. Basically, increasing their own revenue (from sponsor advertisements and other sources) at the expense of the customers is unethical, and will definitely leave them a bad rep. Good business always puts customers first, and NASL isn't really doing a good job at it.
I definitely agree with that. I don't see them fixing this anytime soon though considering they ignored quite a few people raising this issue months back.
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On October 06 2011 15:25 Yaki wrote:
Wtf cruncher retiring from SC2 and beating fenix who trains with probably the best team in the world ?
I believe Fenix said something along the lines of "don't expect good games from me. The lag from playing in Korea is too much" before he started playing his NASL games.
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On October 06 2011 15:25 Yaki wrote:
Wtf cruncher retiring from SC2 and beating fenix who trains with probably the best team in the world ?
On October 06 2011 11:09 Fenix wrote:
I have two seconds of delay, I can´t play this tournament, I'm sorry I withdraw from the tournament for connection problems.
thx all and sorry!
Too bad HerO and DeMuslim didn't play. Hopefully they can rematch @MLG .
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On October 06 2011 14:26 Chicane wrote:Show nested quote +On October 06 2011 12:01 SnuggleZhenya wrote:On October 06 2011 11:32 Oreo7 wrote:
Terrible Demuslim was a no show, only match worth watching tonight. Why doesn't nasl tell us that it's not going to happen? Because they have a vested interest in you tuning into their show. Ya, but it gives viewers like me all the more reason to have no interest in supporting them, at least not for the weeks before the finals where no shows were repeatedly not mentioned to the viewers ahead of time. They clearly didn't care about our time last season, only that we were tuning in to watch, and it seems that is still the case. I honestly don't mind just checking the results and watching the finals with all the other good content even though I watched on a regular basis last season. Edit: Hopefully I am not coming across as overly-dramatic. I am not saying it is a huge deal or that they are terrible people, but they clearly saw that it was angering people last season and continue to do it, so I personally do not want to support that. I'm not looking to flame the NASL or anything like that.
It's kinda weird, last season the games where played 1-2 days before the broadcast so it was very hard to reschedule stuff. But with 3-4 weeks of time between the Matches and the Broadcast they should be able to reschedule matches to avoid no shows? I thought the delay was to prevent Walkovers.
With walkovers + games that are about a month old there is like no reason to turn in during group play for me :/ A bit sad that the situation became worse than s1, at least for me.
At least one can hope the offline/live final makes up for it again :/
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On October 06 2011 10:55 GenoZStriker wrote:
According to Axslav NASL matches are played almost a month in advances. Hence the Warp Prism shield being pre-patch and the DeMusliM was probably when he went to Oregon on vacation and maybe wasn't able to reschedule.
Wow did not know the games were that outdated... I thought it was a few days at most. Wtf, that's pretty sad, does it really take that long to get their shit together? That kills a lot of the excitement for me, the meta game, players play/momentum and even patches can change a lot in a month. I don't go back and watch vods/replays from a month ago just for that very reason.. And if the matches are played weeks in advance you'd think they could use that huge buffer to reschedule a match so walkovers like tonight don't happen, or at least tell us before the broadcast if they've known this shit for weeks.
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Boo the match I was super excited for Oh well, it happens, no point in my pouting. There will be more!
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On October 06 2011 16:05 darkest44 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 06 2011 10:55 GenoZStriker wrote:
According to Axslav NASL matches are played almost a month in advances. Hence the Warp Prism shield being pre-patch and the DeMusliM was probably when he went to Oregon on vacation and maybe wasn't able to reschedule. Wow did not know the games were that outdated... I thought it was a few days at most. Wtf, that's pretty sad, does it really take that long to get their shit together? That kills a lot of the excitement for me, the meta game, players play/momentum and even patches can change a lot in a month. I don't go back and watch vods/replays from a month ago just for that very reason.. And if the matches are played weeks in advance you'd think they could use that huge buffer to reschedule a match so walkovers like tonight don't happen, or at least tell us before the broadcast if they've known this shit for weeks.
I think you also kind of miss the fact of most of the time the walkovers occur because there wasn't any preemptive notion to reschedule. One player obviously came to play, the other didn't show and didn't say anything beforehand to try to make an effort to reschedule. Not only is that extremely disrespectful to the league (and is a fine), it's EXTREMELY disrespectful to the player who waited 45 minutes only for you not to show up and essentially waste their time. I'm willing to assume players have the option to reschedule or receive the walkover win and 9 times out of 10 the player will take the walkover. Yes, recording early was to help IF there was a situation that two players couldn't make it one day and they agree on another day to do it (which happens quite a few times I bet, just no one notices, because as far as the viewer knows it was played on the scheduled date).
I think it's hard to argue that this is as large of an issue as it was last season when there were walkovers literally every other day due to the recording-to-broadcast turn-around constraint.
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So glad I didn't stay up too watch last night, was thinking about it as due to the lure of DeMuslim vs HerO. Rather annoying they don't tell you beforehand, but they would lose alot of views. Rather disappointed in DeMuslim and EG for not making sure he could turn up, could of rescheduled it before hand maybe if he knew he wouldn't be able to.
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Dissapointed Demuslim didnt play vs hero... Oh well Shit happens!!!!!
Hope they do say why though!!
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Didn't expect CrunCher to beat Fenix, but happy that he did
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They're played almost a MONTH in advance? That's like IPL. What's the point? A week is my limit.
oh, and DEMU!?! Goddam it.
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Benjamin!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Why u no show up fool!?
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NASL. I enjoy the show and its certainly not your fault DeMuslim couldn't make the match. I wont comment on the noshow until I have heard Benjamin's side of the story.
However, its simply not right you advertise an event 'DeMuslim v Hero' right up to the last moment when you know its untrue. To get a few extra viewers for 45 minutes + replays I guess, compared to risking your customer bases ire seems fuzzy logic and has been stated previously unethical.
Would like an apology and a committment to not repeating it.
Thank you
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On October 06 2011 11:09 Fenix wrote:
I have two seconds of delay, I can´t play this tournament, I'm sorry I withdraw from the tournament for connection problems.
thx all and sorry!
huk doesnt seem to have a problem winning and he is probably the most outspoken about how he hates playing cross servers... dont cop out imo
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Just want to apologise to those who showed up to watch the matches expecting me to be there. I tried to reschedule a few days before the match as "something" came up - i didn't get a response back, my message went through so i assumed things were fine. I received a phone call minutes before my match was to be played saying i'd be walkovered if i didn't play within the next 30 minutes. Well - i was in a different country and a plane journey away from my PC. - I then got told rescheduling isn't allowed unless it's a major tournament, i should have looked through the rules and made sure for definite, but without getting a response i assumed everything was fine ( i asked for the game to be played just a few days later ). And of course, i'm not allowed to announce to people any results, and warn them to not show up in advance as to not waste their time, i was kind of in a bad position, so i do apologise to those who showed up and wanted to see the games, i couldn't have prevented that from happening given NASL ruling. Sorry.
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Also a separate apology to Hero, i spoke to him at IPL and spoke to him about what happened, i assumed NASL would have also told him i wasn't going to be able to make it and save his time, unfortunately they didn't, and he did stay up.
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Koreans played last season and topped their groups, HuK is playing it from Korea, and Fenix cries here after he loses one game. Some people never change.
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that is really disappointing..the hero vs demuslim game series would have been very nice to watch.
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On October 06 2011 22:24 DeMusliM wrote:
Also a separate apology to Hero, i spoke to him at IPL and spoke to him about what happened, i assumed NASL would have also told him i wasn't going to be able to make it and save his time, unfortunately they didn't, and he did stay up.
Good to hear a statement from a player regarding a situation like this, sorry it didn't work out but GL in IPL!
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On October 06 2011 22:22 DeMusliM wrote:
Just want to apologise to those who showed up to watch the matches expecting me to be there. I tried to reschedule a few days before the match as "something" came up - i didn't get a response back, my message went through so i assumed things were fine. I received a phone call minutes before my match was to be played saying i'd be walkovered if i didn't play within the next 30 minutes. Well - i was in a different country and a plane journey away from my PC. - I then got told rescheduling isn't allowed unless it's a major tournament, i should have looked through the rules and made sure for definite, but without getting a response i assumed everything was fine ( i asked for the game to be played just a few days later ). And of course, i'm not allowed to announce to people any results, and warn them to not show up in advance as to not waste their time, i was kind of in a bad position, so i do apologise to those who showed up and wanted to see the games, i couldn't have prevented that from happening given NASL ruling. Sorry.
Sounds like NASL need to get their act together. Not responding to you earlier, and still getting Hero to turn up, as well as LYING to everyone watching... Its just going to lose trust. Shame, as I thought NASL2 really improved over season 1. You better win the rest of your games Ben, you deserve top spot Div 1.
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What the hell? How is NASL 2 not considered a major tournament? NASL really needs to learn that they need to accommodate players a little bit more than they currently are.
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On October 06 2011 22:43 Savern101 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 06 2011 22:22 DeMusliM wrote:
Just want to apologise to those who showed up to watch the matches expecting me to be there. I tried to reschedule a few days before the match as "something" came up - i didn't get a response back, my message went through so i assumed things were fine. I received a phone call minutes before my match was to be played saying i'd be walkovered if i didn't play within the next 30 minutes. Well - i was in a different country and a plane journey away from my PC. - I then got told rescheduling isn't allowed unless it's a major tournament, i should have looked through the rules and made sure for definite, but without getting a response i assumed everything was fine ( i asked for the game to be played just a few days later ). And of course, i'm not allowed to announce to people any results, and warn them to not show up in advance as to not waste their time, i was kind of in a bad position, so i do apologise to those who showed up and wanted to see the games, i couldn't have prevented that from happening given NASL ruling. Sorry. Sounds like NASL need to get their act together. Not responding to you earlier, and still getting Hero to turn up, as well as LYING to everyone watching... Its just going to lose trust. Shame, as I thought NASL2 really improved over season 1. You better win the rest of your games Ben, you deserve top spot Div 1.
Well, as much as I like DeMu, it is still partially his fault.
The worst part though would have been getting Hero to stay up, I'm a little disappointed they didn't tell him. Other than that you can't find that much fault with what NASL did, they should've responded more quickly as well but the rules were available for DeMu to see.
EDIT: I do highly appreciate that DeMu posted in this thread though. Many props.
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Thanks for the reply and clarification DeMuslim. NASL really should be trying to do rescheduling where possible, especially seeing as this is one of the most anticipated and important matches of the season, such a shame it didn't get played and they wasted HerO's and viewers time.
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lol @ the drama queens in this thread saying they won't support NASL anymore because of this. Honestly, it's not a big deal at all. You missed out on one series - boo hoo. No need to be so sensitive.
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"Regarding the DeMuslim Walkover and NASL Reschedules"
About a day prior to his match, DeMuslim messaged NASL in regards to not being able to make his match.
What normally happens when a player requests a reschedule is that we immediately contact the other party to notify them and try to find an appropriate time for a reschedule. We then go back to the player requesting the reschedule and verify the time. After this process has occurred, we officialize the time, and send an email to both players confirming the reschedule. Players are aware of this and know that a reschedule has not occurred until they receive that email. A lack of any response from us should indicated that a follow up is needed because we always respond to such notices.
Numerous players' schedules have been accommodated through this process.
What had happened in DeMuslim's case is that his message had not gone through, as later confirmed by one of the EG managers. Because he only attempted to contact us once (the message failed to go through) and did not follow up, we had no way of knowing he would not make his match. When his match started and he was not there, we contacted his manager and some of his teammates to get in contact with him, but were unsuccessful.
We (NASL and HerO) waited the required 45 minutes, after which a walkover was issued.
More than anything, it's an unfortunate and unlucky circumstance for everybody involved, but such is the case in the modern world where technology isn't always 100% reliable.
Nevertheless, we wish DeMuslim the best in the rest of the league and all his other tournament endeavors.
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Sigh. DeMuslim says a few days before. NASL says the day before. Demuslim says the message went through. NASL says the message didn't go through.
Maybe if NASL didn't constantly show the need to disparage players when match conflicts arose in order to make themselves look the victim, I would believe them. But that's not the case so I am going to believe Demuslim.
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On October 07 2011 01:55 Ansalem wrote:
Sigh. DeMuslim says a few days before. NASL says the day before. Demuslim says the message went through. NASL says the message didn't go through.
Maybe if NASL didn't constantly show the need to disparage players when match conflicts arose in order to make themselves look the victim, I would believe them. But that's not the case so I am going to believe Demuslim.
it being a few days (which can be 2) or it being just 1 day can be a result of timezone differences (not sure which country he was in).
I like how NASL wrote quite a long statement and didn't cover why they didn't tell people beforehand that that match was a forfeit though - it's really not very honest to keep people excited.
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On October 06 2011 22:24 DeMusliM wrote:
Also a separate apology to Hero, i spoke to him at IPL and spoke to him about what happened, i assumed NASL would have also told him i wasn't going to be able to make it and save his time, unfortunately they didn't, and he did stay up.
Super mannered response. I think you both will make the playoffs easily, so perhaps we'll get to see this match then!
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Agree that if it was known three days ago, keeping the match on the schedule is disingenuous. Given that these games are recorded so far in advance and SC2 players are great people, were there no other exceptional rescheduling options?
Seems a bit of a case of rules and miscommunication getting in the way of user experience. People are paying for matches and with such an anticipated one, a 'can-do' approach might have made it work for everyone. Kudos to DeMuslim for letting people know at the earliest he could.
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On October 07 2011 02:13 theonemafu wrote:
Agree that if it was known three days ago, keeping the match on the schedule is disingenuous. Given that these games are recorded so far in advance and SC2 players are great people, were there no other exceptional rescheduling options?
Seems a bit of a case of rules and miscommunication getting in the way of user experience. People are paying for matches and with such an anticipated one, a 'can-do' approach might have made it work for everyone. Kudos to DeMuslim for letting people know at the earliest he could.
A majority of games are not filmed very far in advance, we have done it with a few matches in order to accommodate people's busy schedules (especially in October).
Also I want to apologize for not announce walk overs prior to matches... I will make sure that we announce whether a match will be a walk over from now on. Thanks again <3!
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On October 07 2011 01:55 Ansalem wrote:
Sigh. DeMuslim says a few days before. NASL says the day before. Demuslim says the message went through. NASL says the message didn't go through.
Maybe if NASL didn't constantly show the need to disparage players when match conflicts arose in order to make themselves look the victim, I would believe them. But that's not the case so I am going to believe Demuslim.
Did you miss the part where they said that EG confirmed the message didn't go through? Not flaming you - it was an easily missed part of the comment.
This is obviously just a misunderstanding and miscommunication.
On October 07 2011 02:41 Xeris wrote:Show nested quote +On October 07 2011 02:13 theonemafu wrote:
Agree that if it was known three days ago, keeping the match on the schedule is disingenuous. Given that these games are recorded so far in advance and SC2 players are great people, were there no other exceptional rescheduling options?
Seems a bit of a case of rules and miscommunication getting in the way of user experience. People are paying for matches and with such an anticipated one, a 'can-do' approach might have made it work for everyone. Kudos to DeMuslim for letting people know at the earliest he could. A majority of games are not filmed very far in advance, we have done it with a few matches in order to accommodate people's busy schedules (especially in October). Also I want to apologize for not announce walk overs prior to matches... I will make sure that we announce whether a match will be a walk over from now on. Thanks again <3!
Great to hear!
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Aw man, so sad the most exciting match of the day wasn't played ...
Also, Cruncher beating Fenix! I just missed the first match, was it any good?
Edit: Crunchers really likes his DTs!
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I always thought Fenix was good at crisis handling. This was painful to see!! I am Dissapoint! And using the viking to scout when the prism was dropping DTs in the main for the 5th time. Zomg....
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