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TheHova
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United Kingdom2612 Posts
October 23 2011 14:12 GMT
#4501
Doa is so clueless :/
theKOT
Profile Joined June 2009
United States167 Posts
October 23 2011 14:12 GMT
#4502
I LOVE gold bases, because they force engagements. They cause players to move to stop the opponents, and since they are exposed they cause a fight to actually occur. Is Khaldor going to whine about Terran IMBA during all his GSL casts too?
FBH and Bisu. That's all you need.
najreteip
Profile Joined December 2010
Belgium4158 Posts
October 23 2011 14:12 GMT
#4503
On October 23 2011 23:11 Black Gun wrote:
hi, i just tuned in, when will stephano vs marineking begin?

Stephano 2-0 Marineking hours ago
I have no quote!
aTo
Profile Joined September 2011
Austria588 Posts
October 23 2011 14:12 GMT
#4504
On October 23 2011 23:11 Brutalin wrote:
Khaldor is like a 10year old kid while arguing.

this
nothin to add :S
zap zap zap
Xoronius
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany6362 Posts
October 23 2011 14:12 GMT
#4505
On October 23 2011 23:11 Black Gun wrote:
hi, i just tuned in, when will stephano vs marineking begin?


It ended about 4 hours ago.
cybertopo
Profile Joined February 2010
Spain525 Posts
October 23 2011 14:13 GMT
#4506
On October 23 2011 23:11 Black Gun wrote:
hi, i just tuned in, when will stephano vs marineking begin?


It was played hours argo + Show Spoiler +
Stephano won
Hurr Durr
HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
October 23 2011 14:13 GMT
#4507
commercial + missplaced microphone yey
Asymmetric
Profile Joined June 2011
Scotland1309 Posts
October 23 2011 14:13 GMT
#4508
On October 23 2011 23:11 Black Gun wrote:
hi, i just tuned in, when will stephano vs marineking begin?


Been and gone. Stephano 2-0ed Marineking.

Mana vs Stephano, the final, is up at 16:30 CEST (i think)
MartinN
Profile Joined April 2011
Spain307 Posts
October 23 2011 14:14 GMT
#4509
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xhouu5_live-netgtv-eswc_videogames

16:40 the final
HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
October 23 2011 14:14 GMT
#4510
Both of them are pretty damn biased, but Khaldor is most
Warfie
Profile Joined February 2009
Norway2846 Posts
October 23 2011 14:14 GMT
#4511
On October 23 2011 23:12 aTo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2011 23:11 Brutalin wrote:
Khaldor is like a 10year old kid while arguing.

this
nothin to add :S

Then why do you post? Last page has been a whole set of one liners complaining about the casters, but not explaining the reason to complain. Why is he like a 10 year old? I'm having a hard time agreeing with this, and you aren't posting any reasons. I would say that in itself is a poor way to discuss something.
Midgetman101
Profile Joined February 2011
United States825 Posts
October 23 2011 14:15 GMT
#4512
On October 23 2011 23:13 Asymmetric wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2011 23:11 Black Gun wrote:
hi, i just tuned in, when will stephano vs marineking begin?


Been and gone. Stephano 2-0ed Marineking.

Mana vs Stephano, the final, is up at 16:30 CEST (i think)

were the games good or no?
~Terran For Life~
Sina92
Profile Joined January 2011
Sweden1303 Posts
October 23 2011 14:15 GMT
#4513
THE ULTIMATE MULE BALANCE SUGGESTION - - change it so that you can only drop mules on the patches next to the orbital you call them down from!

ur all welcome
My penis is 15 inches long, I'm a Harvard professor and look better than Brad Pitt and Jake Gyllenhaal combined.
Bobster
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany3075 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-23 14:16:53
October 23 2011 14:15 GMT
#4514
On October 23 2011 23:08 slickbilliam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2011 23:06 Bobster wrote:
On October 23 2011 23:03 Zahki wrote:
On October 23 2011 22:52 kraut wrote:
On October 23 2011 22:51 HappyChris wrote:
On October 23 2011 22:38 s4life wrote:
The problem with Khaldor is not so much his rant against terran, but the fact that he's a bronze player and his arguments are typically very superficial.


He is a high Master zerg player in EU. Try again


no he isnt :D


He was last season.

http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/596700/1/Khaldor/

You accidentally linked to his 3v3 and 4v4 account, which is irrelevant when people are questioning his understanding of the game for 1v1.


click last season, 1v1 master ranked 68

http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/596700/1/Khaldor/ladder/lastseason/leagues

Ah, thanks!

But... he only has 28 games played? Am I missing something here or does it look like he hasn't touched the game seriously for several months?


In any case, even he was a Master player [once], I wonder why that understanding of the game isn't reflected in his casts - or this balance discussion right now, for that matter.
Whalecore
Profile Joined March 2009
Norway1111 Posts
October 23 2011 14:16 GMT
#4515
Terrans are very strong, but not because of mules.
Playgu
Bobster
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany3075 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-23 14:17:30
October 23 2011 14:17 GMT
#4516
Is the finals a Bo5?
Jehct
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
New Zealand9115 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-23 14:18:29
October 23 2011 14:17 GMT
#4517
On October 23 2011 23:12 theKOT wrote:
I LOVE gold bases, because they force engagements. They cause players to move to stop the opponents, and since they are exposed they cause a fight to actually occur. Is Khaldor going to whine about Terran IMBA during all his GSL casts too?

Terran doesn't have to be imba for mules (or gold bases) to be an issue. I think anyone who isn't a terran hates the MULE dynamic. Especially late game, it ruins the idea of worker harass - as long as the terran keeps up 3 orbitals and a planetary with minerals he has plenty of mining, whereas if a protoss/zerg loses their workers they'll have 0 income. In scrappy, drawn out games it you definitely see how good mules are.

It's definitely a different dynamic, and maybe something blizzard is happy with, but it mightn't be perfectly balanced, and may give terran an advantage in very specific situations (doesn't mean terran imba).
"You seem to think about this game a lot"
TheHova
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United Kingdom2612 Posts
October 23 2011 14:18 GMT
#4518
Did Doa really believe that? Jesus :/
Talho
Profile Joined August 2010
Belgium592 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-23 14:21:37
October 23 2011 14:18 GMT
#4519
On October 23 2011 23:12 theKOT wrote:
I LOVE gold bases, because they force engagements. They cause players to move to stop the opponents, and since they are exposed they cause a fight to actually occur. Is Khaldor going to whine about Terran IMBA during all his GSL casts too?



You want zerg to engage when the terran takes a gold on a normal standard timing 3th for the terran (antiga is the perfect example for that) ? that's imbalance right there. What zerg wants to attack a perfectly defended turtled base without broodlords/ultras

mule's aint op, it's easily accessible gold bases that fuck everything up. Zergs can't even take gold bases on a lot of maps cause they're too easily siegable
letmegopls
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
105 Posts
October 23 2011 14:18 GMT
#4520
this pair of casters is even more stupid than jp and day9

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