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mderg
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany1740 Posts
October 23 2011 12:45 GMT
#4381
Why nexus first?
Rowa
Profile Joined July 2010
Belgium962 Posts
October 23 2011 12:45 GMT
#4382
Those hellions are driven by Marines ! Thats how MKP does it.
♞ To obtain a bird's eyes is to turn a blizzard to a breeze ♞
astroorion
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1022 Posts
October 23 2011 12:45 GMT
#4383
Wow, I can't believe that Grubby fell to that
MLG Admin | Astro.631 NA
Eurekastreet
Profile Joined November 2010
1308 Posts
October 23 2011 12:45 GMT
#4384
why did he cancel the pylon ?
"2 cannons, it's not one cannons" - White-Ra
HappyChris
Profile Joined October 2011
1534 Posts
October 23 2011 12:45 GMT
#4385
lol Helions wtf never seen anything like this before
MartinN
Profile Joined April 2011
Spain307 Posts
October 23 2011 12:45 GMT
#4386
cs female final, always good in eswc http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xhouu5_live-netgtv-eswc_videogames
TheHova
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United Kingdom2612 Posts
October 23 2011 12:45 GMT
#4387
And that's why you can't Nexus first. Basically praying a Terran doesn't do any early pressure
Tarotis
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Germany1931 Posts
October 23 2011 12:45 GMT
#4388
On October 23 2011 21:45 Lukeeze[zR] wrote:
grubby with silver level mistakes

Tell me one? It was a bo loss, not more, not less
DaCruise
Profile Joined July 2010
Denmark2457 Posts
October 23 2011 12:45 GMT
#4389
On October 23 2011 21:45 Lukeeze[zR] wrote:
grubby with silver level mistakes


Yeah,, Nexus first is silver level.
poorcloud
Profile Joined April 2011
Singapore2748 Posts
October 23 2011 12:45 GMT
#4390
LOL that game was so weird. A forge would have handled that pretty easily though
TheHova
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United Kingdom2612 Posts
October 23 2011 12:46 GMT
#4391
On October 23 2011 21:45 Lukeeze[zR] wrote:
grubby with silver level mistakes


It was a BO loss...
kseutron
Profile Joined June 2011
France56 Posts
October 23 2011 12:46 GMT
#4392
Helions are disgusting in every match up, just mass them and do TONS of damage whatever the oppoenent does
dooraven
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia2820 Posts
October 23 2011 12:46 GMT
#4393
Hah, Arc Sheild would have been soo strong in that situation.
Go go Alliance.
Bashion
Profile Joined February 2011
Cook Islands2612 Posts
October 23 2011 12:46 GMT
#4394
He should ve walled off the choke between the main and the natural instead.
I've got moves like Jagger
FaKeSC2
Profile Joined September 2011
Germany78 Posts
October 23 2011 12:46 GMT
#4395
On October 23 2011 21:41 trinxified wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2011 21:39 Taf the Ghost wrote:
On October 23 2011 21:36 ThisGS wrote:
mech ghost is almost impossible to break for toss.

30 hellions 20 tanks some thors some ghosts - how will u break this without air? and vikings counter all P air :D


€: the problem is mobility, its not "weak" in fights at all


Grubby was actually expecting Ghosts out, which is why he got Templar + Archon out. But MKP doesn't like ghosts. Stephano had 8+ Infestors, when MKP was mostly in Marines & Tanks, and he didn't toss down a Ghost Academy.

Obviously, the lack of Stim working on Ghosts offends MKP.


Lol? Templar + Archon also gets wrecked by Ghosts...


Archons can take 3 emps each! And Archons don't clump, so Archons are actually quite good against ghosts.
All Bogs
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands104 Posts
October 23 2011 12:46 GMT
#4396
On October 23 2011 21:45 Eurekastreet wrote:
why did he cancel the pylon ?


I don't think he cancelled it - the hellions simply destroyed it while it was warping in. Unless I somehow missed the "cancelled" text?
clusen
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany8702 Posts
October 23 2011 12:46 GMT
#4397
On October 23 2011 21:45 poorcloud wrote:
LOL that game was so weird. A forge would have handled that pretty easily though

You don't have unlimited ressources, forge+cannon is already 300 minerals and you still need to wall.
UserErrOr413
Profile Joined May 2011
United States178 Posts
October 23 2011 12:47 GMT
#4398
On October 23 2011 21:46 kseutron wrote:
Helions are disgusting in every match up, just mass them and do TONS of damage whatever the oppoenent does

It helps if you opponent only has a zealot and a stalker to defend against mass units
ThisGS
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany255 Posts
October 23 2011 12:47 GMT
#4399
blueflame was never the problem about hellions from Protoss point of view - its the HP / armortype of hellions.

nothing kills hellions effectively. Zealots are too slow, stalkers need 8 shots. you rely on forcefielding perfectly
hippocritical
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Australia465 Posts
October 23 2011 12:47 GMT
#4400
Let's try not to act surprised when its 8 hellions against the equivalent mineral sink in pylons :/. BO loss and probably not a safe build to do on TA vs MKP.
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