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Xkalibert
Profile Joined March 2010
United States1404 Posts
October 03 2011 07:45 GMT
#1881
I applaud Puma for not going 1-1-1 all games even in XelNaga, 1-1-1 map.
Scrandom
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada2819 Posts
October 03 2011 07:46 GMT
#1882
It's a shame JYP got matched up against Puma in the quarters
Daralii
Profile Joined March 2010
United States16991 Posts
October 03 2011 07:46 GMT
#1883
On October 03 2011 16:45 Asha` wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2011 16:40 Corrosive wrote:
On October 03 2011 16:40 itsjuspeter wrote:
On October 03 2011 16:38 Gary Oak wrote:
Puma roflstomping. This is why he's so good. Yeah, he 1-1-1s a lot, but he's far from a 1-1-1trick pony in TvP.


He just used 1-1-1 fear to take an easy double expo...

so if i dont actually 1-1-1 and just pretend to its still imba?

no, thats called smart.


His point is that 1/1/1 is so ridiculously good that Protoss have to panic about a possible 1/1/1 whenever they see a gas, and particularly if they see banshees. It's the same thing where Puzzle tried to go 2 gate robo expo to be safe vs Bomber when Bomber took gas, and he did what Puma is doing now and just pulled workers out to FE and was miles ahead.

The mere threat of 1/1/1 puts Terran at a huge advantage vs Toss in so many situations. There's an obvious issue when a build is so strong that it influences the match up considerably even when it's not being used.

Puma is at a massive advantage now.

Quoted for a quality post.
Fear is freedom! Subjugation is liberation! Contradiction is truth!
itsjuspeter
Profile Joined November 2010
United States668 Posts
October 03 2011 07:46 GMT
#1884
On October 03 2011 16:44 icarly wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2011 16:43 itsjuspeter wrote:
On October 03 2011 16:40 Corrosive wrote:
On October 03 2011 16:40 itsjuspeter wrote:
On October 03 2011 16:38 Gary Oak wrote:
Puma roflstomping. This is why he's so good. Yeah, he 1-1-1s a lot, but he's far from a 1-1-1trick pony in TvP.


He just used 1-1-1 fear to take an easy double expo...

so if i dont actually 1-1-1 and just pretend to its still imba?

no, thats called smart.


I'm not gonna debate over how 1-1-1 is imba in this LR thread but if a protoss had a build in which you HAD to prepare BLINDLY or die, but if you do and then the protoss takes 2 easy expos while you prepare, and once you find out and its too late, how would u feel? It definitely is smart, i didn't say it wasnt, its just terrible from a protoss pov.


No player should ever fail to find a hidden base. How hard is it to really send 1 probe to every base on the map, or you know he could have used his observer.


If PuMa wanted he would of floated an extra command center to the south base and be completely safe from scouting, but thats it with arguing about this topic, blizzard patch already basically admitted the build has something wrong with it.

/done
icarly
Profile Joined August 2011
United States400 Posts
October 03 2011 07:46 GMT
#1885
On October 03 2011 16:44 forgottendreams wrote:
Welp... this is gonna be an easy win for puma. Looks like we're probably going to get the match I want to see, puma vs elfi in the finals because there's no way in hell idra is gonna win vs puma rofl.


I wouldn't say idra can't beat Puma. I stalked their profiles a lot when Puma was living at the EG house and Idra appeared to win about 50% of the time. + Puma's tvz is pretty weak (lost to Z at MLG, and MLG online invitational and his tvz games at Dreamhacks were very subpar.)

I'd give idra a good shot of winning.
mgl0x9
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States256 Posts
October 03 2011 07:47 GMT
#1886
new drinking game?..... one shot when you hear the word "damn"
Zerg Ownz your face off
Yaotzin
Profile Joined August 2010
South Africa4280 Posts
October 03 2011 07:47 GMT
#1887
On October 03 2011 16:45 Jehct wrote:
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On October 03 2011 16:40 MrCon wrote:
On October 03 2011 16:26 Angelbelow wrote:
On October 03 2011 16:24 MrCon wrote:
Can't believe how Puma went from the pride of terran to the shame of terrans aka 111 man in such a short time...
After nasl finals he was my hero, now I despise him.


He found a quicker way to win.. cant blame him, blame blizzard!

Oh but I don't even think that 111 is imba, in fact I think JYP is the least good of all the new code A protoss heroes (Sage, Oz, JYP and Hero). JYP played very well some games but plays terrible since then.

But to the point, Puma was an inspiration for all terrans after his nasl finals vs MC. He created himself a large fanbase in a very short time. Compare that to now where everyone hates him, he's basically a Rain clone. He even 111'ed MC in a fucking showmatch lol. It's just dumb from him imo, perhaps he doesn't care because he now has a solid contract, but he's not very good at marketing imo =)

And wtf is xel naga cavern doing in the map pool, and wth it is in this serie.

He did a single all-in (1/1/1) in a BO5 (so far) and then used the fear of that all-in to do a double expand. How is he doing anything other than playing an excellent series? He's mindgaming and outplaying his opponent (or punishing his opponents mistakes). Why should any fan give a shit? No one got mad at MKP for doing 11/11 bunker rushes and blizzard patched that, too.

Stop with the blind hatred ya'll =(

It's smart but it's abusing something everyone regards as imba, which is why it's frustrating to watch. Abusing broken stuff is always icky.
bwally
Profile Joined December 2010
United States670 Posts
October 03 2011 07:47 GMT
#1888
lol
Sabu113
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States11075 Posts
October 03 2011 07:47 GMT
#1889
Lol. Protoss army tries to retreat. Stim pack and concussive say no.

Time to die Jyp
Biomine is a drunken chick who is on industrial strength amphetamines and would just grab your dick and jerk it as hard and violently as she could while screaming 'OMG FUCK ME', because she saw it in a Sasha Grey video ...-Wombat_Ni
Beyonder
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands15103 Posts
October 03 2011 07:48 GMT
#1890
On October 03 2011 16:46 Daralii wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2011 16:45 Asha` wrote:
On October 03 2011 16:40 Corrosive wrote:
On October 03 2011 16:40 itsjuspeter wrote:
On October 03 2011 16:38 Gary Oak wrote:
Puma roflstomping. This is why he's so good. Yeah, he 1-1-1s a lot, but he's far from a 1-1-1trick pony in TvP.


He just used 1-1-1 fear to take an easy double expo...

so if i dont actually 1-1-1 and just pretend to its still imba?

no, thats called smart.


His point is that 1/1/1 is so ridiculously good that Protoss have to panic about a possible 1/1/1 whenever they see a gas, and particularly if they see banshees. It's the same thing where Puzzle tried to go 2 gate robo expo to be safe vs Bomber when Bomber took gas, and he did what Puma is doing now and just pulled workers out to FE and was miles ahead.

The mere threat of 1/1/1 puts Terran at a huge advantage vs Toss in so many situations. There's an obvious issue when a build is so strong that it influences the match up considerably even when it's not being used.

Puma is at a massive advantage now.

Quoted for a quality post.

Yepp ^_^
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Angelbelow
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3728 Posts
October 03 2011 07:48 GMT
#1891
Puma was really patient with that protoss pressure, ended up paying off big time, probably going to win him the game.
You may delay, but time will not. Current Music obsession: Opeth
Hierarch
Profile Joined February 2011
United States2197 Posts
October 03 2011 07:48 GMT
#1892
On October 03 2011 16:45 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2011 16:44 Hierarch wrote:
no 1/1/1 on Xel? odd

Mind games?


He mind gamed him hard enough on shak, give poor jyp a break

But ya definite trickeration going on
MC|NonY|HerO|NaDa|MVP|DRG|Ret|Sen|Dimaga|Leenock
Kroml
Profile Joined September 2011
Turkey308 Posts
October 03 2011 07:48 GMT
#1893
Jetlag from Korea to China :D you are funny RotterdaM :=)
Maitolasi
Profile Joined December 2010
Finland441 Posts
October 03 2011 07:48 GMT
#1894
Watching PvT is painful. It never seems like protoss has any chance if the terran plays half decent.
BFCrimson
Profile Joined August 2010
United States176 Posts
October 03 2011 07:48 GMT
#1895
He hid his infantry upgrades that was amazing. Wasn't stimming until protoss ran out of ff and then protoss got cocky. Puma showing he is not one dimensional
forgottendreams
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1771 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-03 07:48:53
October 03 2011 07:48 GMT
#1896
nvm
Kilgort
Profile Joined July 2010
Ukraine41 Posts
October 03 2011 07:48 GMT
#1897
What a pity that Dimaga lost to Hasuobs, I don't know why such a great player(a much better than HasuObs) and lost in such manner, I think he must develop his ZvP a lot, because I think Dimaga is only one on this champ that got chances vs Puma.
parazice
Profile Joined March 2011
Thailand5517 Posts
October 03 2011 07:48 GMT
#1898
On October 03 2011 16:46 Scrandom wrote:
It's a shame JYP got matched up against Puma in the quarters


better to end this in QT than Final imo(you don't want to see GSL final style in IEM Final)
SoleSteeler
Profile Joined April 2003
Canada5456 Posts
October 03 2011 07:48 GMT
#1899
It's 1 hour. >_<
AxionSteel
Profile Joined January 2011
United States7754 Posts
October 03 2011 07:48 GMT
#1900
I'm backing MrBitter in that bet.
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