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On October 03 2011 16:35 GreyKnight wrote: These supply blocks by Puma.. Puma supply blocks himself very often, I have no idea why people praise his play that much. But from the look of things it seems that European PvT is pretty close or even on the same level as Korean PvT. Or Korean protosses are so frustrated that they are so resigned that it affects their psychology. Mana actually goes toe to toe with Puma and actually has positive record with him, shame he did not attend even though he qualified.
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You guys got to realize that these guys are old teammates, so they're trying their hardest to mindgame each other
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On October 03 2011 16:39 Sabu113 wrote:Oh and he'd win if he was playing well?
How would I know?
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Russian Federation304 Posts
On October 03 2011 16:38 Corrosive wrote: that wasnt 1-1-1 rush
that wasnt t imba
that was jyp failing HARD its pretty hard to now what terran doing with his gas 1 rax-marauder-expand, reaper-expand, cloak banshee, 2 rax pressure-expand, hellion into 1-1-1, marine-tank push... so many variations
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I love the bashing in this thread about how Puma can't play past 1 base, as if his long macro games against MC and against countless players in the past 2 IEMS were just flukes.
If you guys want to bash, be witty about it. "LOL I got supply blocked @ 80 cuz i haz no macrroo". That shit is just battle.net forum worthy.
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On October 03 2011 16:39 Shellshock1122 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2011 16:39 Sabu113 wrote:On October 03 2011 16:36 Malinor wrote: JYP is just playing poorly. Oh and he'd win if he was playing well? Though to be fair he is greatly overrated. He's good and he tries a lot of neat things, but there's another level of refinement needed to his play before all the hype falls in line. In a normal world he'd be a solid Code A regular. Plus historically he is just bad at PvT. 25% win rate entering this series
Who's good?
PvT is sometimes like watching a person go to an ATM. It's worth peeking at just for the odd chance a miracle takes place.
I hope everyone agrees the last game was over when he botched his robo timing and got his eco kicked in the groin.
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On October 03 2011 16:38 Cuiu wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2011 16:35 Shellshock1122 wrote:On October 03 2011 16:33 Cuiu wrote: thats not a 1-1-1 -.- Technically it was 1barracks into 1 factory into 1 starport which is a "1-1-1" but not the "1-1-1 all in" that people hate yeah but almost every non terran here and mr. bitter doesn't know the difference
How about you clever terrans make up seperate names for the 2 openings then?
OT: Puma not playing well nor solid at all, 1\1\1 G1, Hidden CC + double expo G2. + supply blocks everywhere.
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On October 03 2011 16:36 Highways wrote: So much for JYP hype.
he is so terrible
Fuck, I am so tired of idiots calling players terrible off one game.
That game he played terrible. But everybody has bad games. JYP is still better than any foreigner protoss
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On October 03 2011 16:41 Smix wrote:MrBitter you are right about sugo!  Whats it mean literally btw? Just curious.
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On October 03 2011 16:37 Shellshock1122 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2011 16:36 Highways wrote: So much for JYP hype.
he is so terrible His PvT win rate is actually just abysmal. If you watched GSTL he was fine against zerg but he just kind of rolled over and died vs mkp. He's 6-18 vs T in TLPD Korea
Yea people bandwagon hype from sotg/artosis too much. Anyone who looked at his match history sees JYP has horrible pvt record and you're never going to be the "protoss hope" "best protoss" etc in sc2 in korea if you suck vs terran..
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JYP has now lost 12 consecutive PvT according to TLPD + these 2 games. His last win vs a Terran was vs MKP in June in the LG3D tourney >.<
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puma made a quick CC....what's up with that?
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Imagine if idra were a P player, facing every pvt some 1-1-1. His comments. That, would be so freaking funny.
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A wild command center appears!
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jyp keeps on losing coin flip battle
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On October 03 2011 16:40 Corrosive wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2011 16:40 itsjuspeter wrote:On October 03 2011 16:38 Gary Oak wrote: Puma roflstomping. This is why he's so good. Yeah, he 1-1-1s a lot, but he's far from a 1-1-1trick pony in TvP. He just used 1-1-1 fear to take an easy double expo... so if i dont actually 1-1-1 and just pretend to its still imba? no, thats called smart.
I'm not gonna debate over how 1-1-1 is imba in this LR thread but if a protoss had a build in which you HAD to prepare BLINDLY or die, but if you do and then the protoss takes 2 easy expos while you prepare, and once you find out and its too late, how would u feel? It definitely is smart, i didn't say it wasnt, its just terrible from a protoss pov.
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On October 03 2011 16:33 jalstar wrote:Can you 1gate core expo and get an obs out before cloak? Like maybe if you get the robo before the two additional gateways? Polt does this too, better than missing rounds of SCVs. yea but then you die to rax play, which is unscoutable until its too late.
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On October 03 2011 16:37 seupac wrote: puma still at sub 50 scvs -.- It's very easy to maintain a strong 3 base economy with 40ish SCVs when you have 3 orbitals.
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