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SayfT
Australia298 Posts
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happyness
United States2400 Posts
Strelok is the better player, but that engagement at elfi's third was awful. | ||
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Grettin
42417 Posts
On October 03 2011 13:06 Ruscour wrote: Does this count for Slasher shaving his head? Yes. | ||
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laharl23
United States582 Posts
Not that impressive play by either of these players. Bit disappointed after all the "Europe hype" zomg u seen one game and it wasn't very good. watch elfi 6-0 his group and dimaga 6-0 his group and not judge all of europe by 2 weird games. | ||
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Shaetan
United States1175 Posts
On October 03 2011 13:06 Grettin wrote: Not that impressive play by either of these players. Bit disappointed after all the "Europe hype" ex Finnish WC3 pro. oh what nationality is he now? :-p i kid i kid. | ||
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Confuse
2238 Posts
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Necro)Phagist(
Canada6667 Posts
On October 03 2011 13:06 Hierarch wrote: elfi looking unstoppable atm unstoppable? Really? Soo many sloppy mistakes.... Don't get me wrong he is good and can be beastly, but that last game was just sloppy. | ||
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00Visor
4337 Posts
On October 03 2011 13:05 Gary Oak wrote: Who is this guy? I've honestly never heard of Elfi until now and despite deplorable micro at the start of the game, he looked really solid against Strelok in 2set. He has been around in the european scene. But didn't make a huge impact until he beat Nada at Assembly and then qualified for both IEMs. | ||
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Jakkerr
Netherlands2549 Posts
On October 03 2011 13:00 positron. wrote: What are you expecting? This is TvP. LOL did the caster just asked how elfi did it? Let me answer: play Protoss. Are u really this stupid? nah ur trolling, it's not possible there are people on the earth that are this stupid User was temp banned for this post. | ||
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ScaringKids
Portugal819 Posts
On October 03 2011 13:02 Belisarius wrote: Are you seriously going to balance whine, against toss no less, after an engagement where the Terran completely failed to emp and then stood all his units under storms until they died? Really? Exactly, he didnt even moved his army out of the storms, also the huge EMP fail that hit like 2or3 zealots? No way he could win that fight. Crying imbalance over that fight is just silly. | ||
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FuzzyJAM
Scotland9300 Posts
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InserT_FreQ
United States99 Posts
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teamamerica
United States958 Posts
On October 03 2011 13:04 dmnum wrote: What you said makes sense, except you don't really micro vikings, you just shift focus all the colossi.(which really isn't time consuming) Yeah you have to have the kite the vikings out of the storm and try to come in on a side angle. Also storm dodge your bio, try to emp the templars coming in from the back, set up tanks, and kite. It's really difficult to micro a bio/tank/viking when there's AoE out on the field. At the same time Toss has it's own positioning issues so don't take what I'm saying as about balance. They have to dodge make sure not to get blanket emp'd but in the end there's a reason you don't see heavy bio-tank army. It actually just blows to any form of AoE, because the AoE just destroys the bio and leaves the tanks vunerable to die, because if you kite the storms/collusi your tanks die (and you need a lot of tank volleys to really make a difference). 1-1-1 tank timings were good because they exploited toss before they could get collusi/templar. | ||
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Pirat6662001
Russian Federation949 Posts
On October 03 2011 13:06 Gatored wrote: Have fun not being able to storm in the first place because your HT got EMP'd. We can play this game all day long... There is not agrument- terran is really strong, and in small/ medium groups is better. But in true max army Toss has a huge micro advantage Terran Micro: dogging storms Sieging tanks Emps/snipes Vikings targeting Stimming Kitting with bio Toss micro- place couple good storms FF make sure zealots and archons ar einfront Dodge EMP Wayyyy less to do. Thus- equal skill- max army- toss win | ||
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Daralii
United States16991 Posts
On October 03 2011 13:09 FuzzyJAM wrote: I've never really seen Strelok play before. Not impressed at all. At least you get to gaze upon his glorious facial hair. | ||
Shellshock
United States97277 Posts
On October 03 2011 13:09 FuzzyJAM wrote: I've never really seen Strelok play before. Not impressed at all. He usually looks way better. He destroyed NASL S1 but couldnt go to the finals because of Visa issues. | ||
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mYiKane
Canada1772 Posts
On October 03 2011 13:09 Pirat6662001 wrote: There is not agrument- terran is really strong, and in small/ medium groups is better. But in true max army Toss has a huge micro advantage Terran Micro: dogging storms Sieging tanks Emps/snipes Vikings targeting Stimming Kitting with bio Toss micro- place couple good storms FF make sure zealots and archons ar einfront Dodge EMP Wayyyy less to do. Thus- equal skill- max army- toss win post your evidence for this, that's just theorycrafting. | ||
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positron.
634 Posts
On October 03 2011 13:09 Pirat6662001 wrote: There is not agrument- terran is really strong, and in small/ medium groups is better. But in true max army Toss has a huge micro advantage Terran Micro: dogging storms Sieging tanks Emps/snipes Vikings targeting Stimming Kitting with bio Toss micro- place couple good storms FF make sure zealots and archons ar einfront Dodge EMP Wayyyy less to do. Thus- equal skill- max army- toss win They don't dodge EMP. It's almost instant. | ||
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Grettin
42417 Posts
]On October 03 2011 13:08 laharl23 wrote: [/B]On October 03 2011 13:06 Grettin wrote: Not that impressive play by either of these players. Bit disappointed after all the "Europe hype" zomg u seen one game and it wasn't very good. watch elfi 6-0 his group and dimaga 6-0 his group and not judge all of europe by 2 weird games. Dude, i'm not really judging. I meant that it hasn't been impressive SO FAR. I bet he has been playing pretty impressive and well if he went 6-0 in the group stages, and not to forget Dimaga. But it's going to be hard whoever advances, especially when it most likely comes down to playing Puma/JYP. And with this play Elfi is playing right now, i doubt he has chances against player like Puma. But we've seen both players playing very sloppy today, so might be nerves, might be tiredness who knows. | ||
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Dawski
Canada435 Posts
On October 03 2011 13:09 Pirat6662001 wrote: There is not agrument- terran is really strong, and in small/ medium groups is better. But in true max army Toss has a huge micro advantage Terran Micro: dogging storms Sieging tanks Emps/snipes Vikings targeting Stimming Kitting with bio which is why when the skill level goes to the point where terran can do those things and protoss is left with nothing to do with micro the terran starts winning like we see in GSL Toss micro- place couple good storms FF make sure zealots and archons ar einfront Dodge EMP Wayyyy less to do. Thus- equal skill- max army- toss win which is why when the skill level rises and terran can do those things and toss have nothing left to do with their micro then the terran starts winning like we see in GSL | ||
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