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SayfT
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Australia298 Posts
October 03 2011 04:06 GMT
#701
ahhhh STRELOK!!! davai bratan! you can do it!
For no man will ever turn homewards from beyond Vega to greet again those he knew and loved on Earth
happyness
Profile Joined June 2010
United States2400 Posts
October 03 2011 04:07 GMT
#702
Viking positioning was off, and strelok didnt even try to dodge the storms....

Strelok is the better player, but that engagement at elfi's third was awful.
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42381 Posts
October 03 2011 04:07 GMT
#703
On October 03 2011 13:06 Ruscour wrote:
Does this count for Slasher shaving his head?


Yes.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
laharl23
Profile Joined February 2011
United States582 Posts
October 03 2011 04:08 GMT
#704
[QUOTE]On October 03 2011 13:06 Grettin wrote:
Not that impressive play by either of these players. Bit disappointed after all the "Europe hype"


zomg u seen one game and it wasn't very good.

watch elfi 6-0 his group and dimaga 6-0 his group and not judge all of europe by 2 weird games.
Shaetan
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1175 Posts
October 03 2011 04:08 GMT
#705
On October 03 2011 13:06 Grettin wrote:
Not that impressive play by either of these players. Bit disappointed after all the "Europe hype"


Show nested quote +
On October 03 2011 13:05 Gary Oak wrote:
Who is this guy? I've honestly never heard of Elfi until now and despite deplorable micro at the start of the game, he looked really solid against Strelok in 2set.


ex Finnish WC3 pro.


oh what nationality is he now? :-p i kid i kid.
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Confuse
Profile Joined October 2009
2238 Posts
October 03 2011 04:08 GMT
#706
Seems like both are affected by nerves :x Hope we can see a few more games between the two, followed by a solid finish.
If we fear what we do not understand, then why is ignorance bliss?
Necro)Phagist(
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada6644 Posts
October 03 2011 04:08 GMT
#707
On October 03 2011 13:06 Hierarch wrote:
elfi looking unstoppable atm

unstoppable? Really? Soo many sloppy mistakes.... Don't get me wrong he is good and can be beastly, but that last game was just sloppy.
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00Visor
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
4337 Posts
October 03 2011 04:08 GMT
#708
On October 03 2011 13:05 Gary Oak wrote:
Who is this guy? I've honestly never heard of Elfi until now and despite deplorable micro at the start of the game, he looked really solid against Strelok in 2set.


He has been around in the european scene. But didn't make a huge impact until he beat Nada at Assembly and then qualified for both IEMs.
Jakkerr
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands2549 Posts
October 03 2011 04:09 GMT
#709
On October 03 2011 13:00 positron. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2011 12:58 Scila wrote:
What a boring game, build deathballs, 1 fight game over

What are you expecting? This is TvP. LOL did the caster just asked how elfi did it? Let me answer: play Protoss.


Are u really this stupid?
nah ur trolling, it's not possible there are people on the earth that are this stupid

User was temp banned for this post.
ScaringKids
Profile Joined November 2010
Portugal819 Posts
October 03 2011 04:09 GMT
#710
On October 03 2011 13:02 Belisarius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2011 13:00 positron. wrote:
On October 03 2011 12:58 Scila wrote:
What a boring game, build deathballs, 1 fight game over

What are you expecting? This is TvP. LOL did the caster just asked how elfi did it? Let me answer: play Protoss.


Are you seriously going to balance whine, against toss no less, after an engagement where the Terran completely failed to emp and then stood all his units under storms until they died? Really?


Exactly, he didnt even moved his army out of the storms, also the huge EMP fail that hit like 2or3 zealots? No way he could win that fight. Crying imbalance over that fight is just silly.
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FuzzyJAM
Profile Joined July 2010
Scotland9300 Posts
October 03 2011 04:09 GMT
#711
I've never really seen Strelok play before. Not impressed at all.
Did you ever say Yes to a single joy?
InserT_FreQ
Profile Joined August 2011
United States99 Posts
October 03 2011 04:09 GMT
#712
Strelok had Elfi on macro, but his amry control lost him the game. Too bad, I was looking forward to better play from Strelok.
Welcome to earth.
teamamerica
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States958 Posts
October 03 2011 04:09 GMT
#713
On October 03 2011 13:04 dmnum wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2011 13:02 TYJ.Aoy wrote:
I kinda expected him to botch that attack, too much stuff to do at the same time equals doing nothing at all(sieging, moving the bio back, EMPing and microing the vikings).

What you said makes sense, except you don't really micro vikings, you just shift focus all the colossi.(which really isn't time consuming)


Yeah you have to have the kite the vikings out of the storm and try to come in on a side angle. Also storm dodge your bio, try to emp the templars coming in from the back, set up tanks, and kite. It's really difficult to micro a bio/tank/viking when there's AoE out on the field. At the same time Toss has it's own positioning issues so don't take what I'm saying as about balance. They have to dodge make sure not to get blanket emp'd but in the end there's a reason you don't see heavy bio-tank army.

It actually just blows to any form of AoE, because the AoE just destroys the bio and leaves the tanks vunerable to die, because if you kite the storms/collusi your tanks die (and you need a lot of tank volleys to really make a difference). 1-1-1 tank timings were good because they exploited toss before they could get collusi/templar.
RIP GOMTV. RIP PROLEAGUE.
Pirat6662001
Profile Joined January 2011
Russian Federation949 Posts
October 03 2011 04:09 GMT
#714
On October 03 2011 13:06 Gatored wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2011 13:04 Scila wrote:
On October 03 2011 13:04 dmnum wrote:
On October 03 2011 13:02 TYJ.Aoy wrote:
I kinda expected him to botch that attack, too much stuff to do at the same time equals doing nothing at all(sieging, moving the bio back, EMPing and microing the vikings).

What you said makes sense, except you don't really micro vikings, you just shift focus all the colossi.


Yeah have fun doing that when all your vikings die in 2 storms


Have fun not being able to storm in the first place because your HT got EMP'd.

We can play this game all day long...

There is not agrument- terran is really strong, and in small/ medium groups is better.
But in true max army Toss has a huge micro advantage
Terran Micro:
dogging storms
Sieging tanks
Emps/snipes
Vikings targeting
Stimming
Kitting with bio

Toss micro-
place couple good storms
FF
make sure zealots and archons ar einfront
Dodge EMP


Wayyyy less to do.
Thus- equal skill- max army- toss win
So.. this Earth, nice planet you might say- WRONG!!
Daralii
Profile Joined March 2010
United States16991 Posts
October 03 2011 04:10 GMT
#715
On October 03 2011 13:09 FuzzyJAM wrote:
I've never really seen Strelok play before. Not impressed at all.

At least you get to gaze upon his glorious facial hair.
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
October 03 2011 04:11 GMT
#716
On October 03 2011 13:09 FuzzyJAM wrote:
I've never really seen Strelok play before. Not impressed at all.

He usually looks way better. He destroyed NASL S1 but couldnt go to the finals because of Visa issues.
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mYiKane
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada1772 Posts
October 03 2011 04:11 GMT
#717
On October 03 2011 13:09 Pirat6662001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2011 13:06 Gatored wrote:
On October 03 2011 13:04 Scila wrote:
On October 03 2011 13:04 dmnum wrote:
On October 03 2011 13:02 TYJ.Aoy wrote:
I kinda expected him to botch that attack, too much stuff to do at the same time equals doing nothing at all(sieging, moving the bio back, EMPing and microing the vikings).

What you said makes sense, except you don't really micro vikings, you just shift focus all the colossi.


Yeah have fun doing that when all your vikings die in 2 storms


Have fun not being able to storm in the first place because your HT got EMP'd.

We can play this game all day long...

There is not agrument- terran is really strong, and in small/ medium groups is better.
But in true max army Toss has a huge micro advantage
Terran Micro:
dogging storms
Sieging tanks
Emps/snipes
Vikings targeting
Stimming
Kitting with bio

Toss micro-
place couple good storms
FF
make sure zealots and archons ar einfront
Dodge EMP


Wayyyy less to do.
Thus- equal skill- max army- toss win


post your evidence for this, that's just theorycrafting.
positron.
Profile Joined May 2010
634 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-03 04:12:46
October 03 2011 04:12 GMT
#718
On October 03 2011 13:09 Pirat6662001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2011 13:06 Gatored wrote:
On October 03 2011 13:04 Scila wrote:
On October 03 2011 13:04 dmnum wrote:
On October 03 2011 13:02 TYJ.Aoy wrote:
I kinda expected him to botch that attack, too much stuff to do at the same time equals doing nothing at all(sieging, moving the bio back, EMPing and microing the vikings).

What you said makes sense, except you don't really micro vikings, you just shift focus all the colossi.


Yeah have fun doing that when all your vikings die in 2 storms


Have fun not being able to storm in the first place because your HT got EMP'd.

We can play this game all day long...

There is not agrument- terran is really strong, and in small/ medium groups is better.
But in true max army Toss has a huge micro advantage
Terran Micro:
dogging storms
Sieging tanks
Emps/snipes
Vikings targeting
Stimming
Kitting with bio

Toss micro-
place couple good storms
FF
make sure zealots and archons ar einfront
Dodge EMP


Wayyyy less to do.
Thus- equal skill- max army- toss win


They don't dodge EMP. It's almost instant.
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42381 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-03 04:13:50
October 03 2011 04:12 GMT
#719
]On October 03 2011 13:08 laharl23 wrote:
On October 03 2011 13:06 Grettin wrote:
Not that impressive play by either of these players. Bit disappointed after all the "Europe hype"


zomg u seen one game and it wasn't very good.

watch elfi 6-0 his group and dimaga 6-0 his group and not judge all of europe by 2 weird games.
[/B]

Dude, i'm not really judging. I meant that it hasn't been impressive SO FAR. I bet he has been playing pretty impressive and well if he went 6-0 in the group stages, and not to forget Dimaga. But it's going to be hard whoever advances, especially when it most likely comes down to playing Puma/JYP. And with this play Elfi is playing right now, i doubt he has chances against player like Puma.

But we've seen both players playing very sloppy today, so might be nerves, might be tiredness who knows.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
Dawski
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada435 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-03 04:13:07
October 03 2011 04:12 GMT
#720
On October 03 2011 13:09 Pirat6662001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2011 13:06 Gatored wrote:
On October 03 2011 13:04 Scila wrote:
On October 03 2011 13:04 dmnum wrote:
On October 03 2011 13:02 TYJ.Aoy wrote:
I kinda expected him to botch that attack, too much stuff to do at the same time equals doing nothing at all(sieging, moving the bio back, EMPing and microing the vikings).

What you said makes sense, except you don't really micro vikings, you just shift focus all the colossi.


Yeah have fun doing that when all your vikings die in 2 storms


Have fun not being able to storm in the first place because your HT got EMP'd.

We can play this game all day long...

There is not agrument- terran is really strong, and in small/ medium groups is better.
But in true max army Toss has a huge micro advantage
Terran Micro:
dogging storms
Sieging tanks
Emps/snipes
Vikings targeting
Stimming
Kitting with bio

which is why when the skill level goes to the point where terran can do those things and protoss is left with nothing to do with micro the terran starts winning like we see in GSL

Toss micro-
place couple good storms
FF
make sure zealots and archons ar einfront
Dodge EMP


Wayyyy less to do.
Thus- equal skill- max army- toss win


which is why when the skill level rises and terran can do those things and toss have nothing left to do with their micro then the terran starts winning like we see in GSL
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