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sixfour
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
England11062 Posts
November 04 2011 13:40 GMT
#941
On November 04 2011 22:39 cybstr wrote:
so when is the next match?


i think they said in ~20 minutes
p: stats, horang2, free, jangbi z: soulkey, zero, shine, hydra t: leta, hiya, sea
Shagg
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland825 Posts
November 04 2011 13:40 GMT
#942
On November 04 2011 22:38 TT1 wrote:
one thing that ive been noticing is that dimaga never attacks when he hits 200 for the first time, isnt that normally supposed to be the first z timing in tvz? seeing as zerg mechanics allow him to max out much quicker than the t wouldnt that always a perfect time to attack? i dont understand why he sits around for another 5-10 mins and then attacks into a larger army, always thought z's strenght was to rush for like 4-5 bases w/ a good drone count, then when u hit 200 u keep sending wave after wave which eventually whittle's ur opponent down because of ur econ advantage

Guess he took notes from Nestea vs MVP in blizzcons final game lol
"You're a pro or you're a noob. That's life"
TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10052 Posts
November 04 2011 13:40 GMT
#943
On November 04 2011 22:39 PredY wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2011 22:37 Noocta wrote:
On November 04 2011 22:35 bgx wrote:
turtle terran


You don't have a choice on cross position. You need to do this kind of 3base turtle into taking a middle map base with planetary and get marauder / ghost to counter what T3 they'll use to break you.

You will always end up being rolled if you try to push out before zerg did the first move on a lategame scenario.

good play by select. he knew dimaga was on t2 too long and just waited till he was maxed out or dimaga to attack into him (which happened)


predy explain to me how tvz works~ why doesnt dimaga attack whenever he hits 200 for the first time? dont understand his reasoning
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Xcobidoo
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden1871 Posts
November 04 2011 13:40 GMT
#944
On November 04 2011 22:38 TT1 wrote:
one thing that ive been noticing is that dimaga never attacks when he hits 200 for the first time, isnt that normally supposed to be the first z timing in tvz? seeing as zerg mechanics allow him to max out much quicker than the t wouldnt that always a perfect time to attack? i dont understand why he sits around for 5-10 mins more then attacks into a larger army, always thought z's strenght was to rush for like 4-5 bases w/ a good drone count, then when u hit 200 u keep sending wave after wave which eventually whittle's ur opponent down because of ur econ advantage

I think you go for some eco damage right before you are maxed to get ahead in economy, then max out on infestors/broodlords and when they are eventually brought down just send in lings since your economy is ahead from those first attacks. At least that's what I see most good ZvT players do which works well
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ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
November 04 2011 13:41 GMT
#945
Well elfi is just going to get trashed by SeleCT next round. I would have given the advantage to SeleCT over HuK too though, so I'm okay with that
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
November 04 2011 13:41 GMT
#946
On November 04 2011 22:38 TT1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2011 22:37 WaSa wrote:
SelecT is looking great. Very scary. But the question is how is his TvP? If he can take Elfi he might be the favorite to win it all.


top 5 tvp (foreign + korean)



Yeah, actually agree with you there TT1

SeleCT is great TvP he makes some amazing timing attacks to there so good to watch always fun games. Also I dont think if he beats Elfi he will be favorite to win it all, depends who he is vs in the final, if its WhiteRa he will be favorite, if Idra or Ret i dont think he is anywhere clsoe to favorite.

Idra beats him alot in ZvT as of late, Ret is the same and also has beaten him at MLGs recently.

But SeleCT vs Elfi will be good due to SeleCTs amazing tactics xD
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sixfour
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
England11062 Posts
November 04 2011 13:41 GMT
#947
On November 04 2011 22:39 Sooooil wrote:
I hope they tested the sound a lot. The setup is kinda bad, the casters are like 4 meters away from the players and then they have speakers for the crwod. I don't want to start any kind of discussion about any player hearing something but it would be nice to know if they play some kind of noise in the big headset so they really cant hear a thing.


i'm pretty sure the players would be manner enough to pause and have them reconfigure if they were able to actually hear anything. besides, headphones are good
p: stats, horang2, free, jangbi z: soulkey, zero, shine, hydra t: leta, hiya, sea
Xpace
Profile Joined March 2011
United States2209 Posts
November 04 2011 13:41 GMT
#948
On November 04 2011 22:37 AxionSteel wrote:
SeleCT definitely improving his game being in Korea, his tvz used to be pretty bad, looks very solid now. Well played!



^ This. Korean training truly is the best in the world.. it hurts every time I see a pro leave.
Ahelvin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
France1866 Posts
November 04 2011 13:41 GMT
#949
Oh my god.

That was one awkwardly cheesy ad.
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Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10939 Posts
November 04 2011 13:42 GMT
#950
Obviously it works like this:

You hit 200/200
You bank money.
You lose your whole army because the Terran had a building in your attack path and sniped all your stuff.
You remax and hope the Ghsots are out of energy.
They aren't, you lost

.
sinkan
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden115 Posts
November 04 2011 13:42 GMT
#951
Select is never going to be favorite over idra
Lann555
Profile Joined February 2010
Netherlands5173 Posts
November 04 2011 13:42 GMT
#952
When will next match be? I got confused by the time zone
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Mephiztopheles1
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
1124 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-04 13:42:53
November 04 2011 13:42 GMT
#953
Freakin'g flash upgrade... it fucked all my streams. Now it's like a radio station for me -_-
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
November 04 2011 13:43 GMT
#954
On November 04 2011 22:42 Lann555 wrote:
When will next match be? I got confused by the time zone


Every top of the hour i beleive sir, started 11am 12pm 1pm here in UK so far, some i guessing in 15 mintues is Idra
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sixfour
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
England11062 Posts
November 04 2011 13:43 GMT
#955
On November 04 2011 22:42 Lann555 wrote:
When will next match be? I got confused by the time zone


at the top of the hour is the same wherever you are, what the hour is actually called doesn't matter that much
p: stats, horang2, free, jangbi z: soulkey, zero, shine, hydra t: leta, hiya, sea
Frankon
Profile Joined May 2010
3054 Posts
November 04 2011 13:43 GMT
#956
Waxangel is now 0-2 on RoG Liquibets...
So its save to say that Sjow will win vs Idra.
TotalBiscuit
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United Kingdom5437 Posts
November 04 2011 13:44 GMT
#957
I feel it needs repeating every time a tournament doesn't have booths. Booths are NOT there to soundproof, that's not how it works. The soundproofing comes from the in-ear buds combined with the passive noise reduction provided by sealed ear protectors (usually either industrial earprotectors used on building sites or headsets used in helicopter). Booths help, but they are the least effective of the 3. Booths are to isolate the players and minimise distractions, not to block sound. You do not need booths for that.

The setup was tested and works, no players have complained about it so far and we did test it with HuK on-stage, he wasn't able to hear anything.
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Anton K
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden277 Posts
November 04 2011 13:44 GMT
#958
On November 04 2011 22:42 sinkan wrote:
Select is never going to be favorite over idra


Who the fuck is idra?
Brainiac
Profile Joined May 2011
Poland641 Posts
November 04 2011 13:44 GMT
#959
On November 04 2011 22:42 Velr wrote:
Obviously it works like this:

You hit 200/200
You bank money.
You lose your whole army because the Terran had a building in your attack path and sniped all your stuff.
You remax and hope the Ghsots are out of energy.
They aren't, you lost

.


I thought it was something like this:
You whine about balance in Live threads
You get banned

Waiting for that second part.
Si vis pacem para bellum
eGoRama
Profile Joined July 2011
Bulgaria1542 Posts
November 04 2011 13:45 GMT
#960
On November 04 2011 22:38 TT1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2011 22:37 WaSa wrote:
SelecT is looking great. Very scary. But the question is how is his TvP? If he can take Elfi he might be the favorite to win it all.


top 5 tvp (foreign + korean)


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